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moeman
01-26-2012, 22:45
Hey...I'm looking at a Remington R-25 .308 20" no muzzle break...

I want a .308 semi but live in California (So Ca) and the .308 semis easily available here (other than Springfileld M1s) are the pricey ones like a Lewis @ $2.9K (lot of money in my mind).

The R-25 is $1.4K...

Opinions on the gun?

If you know of other <$2K, .308 semi alternatives in So CA (other tha Saigas) you think are better, let me know... I like Remington as a company but not married to this gun.


(please don't turn this into a California law pissing contest; it is, what it is...)

Foxtrotx1
01-26-2012, 22:59
Look at the DSA FALs.

ScarFace88
01-26-2012, 23:19
Ptr-91?

m2hmghb
01-27-2012, 00:04
I dont believe FAL or the PTR91 are legal in CA, but I can't be sure.

emopunker2004
01-27-2012, 00:08
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct793.aspx
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct954.aspx
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct792.aspx

Taphius
01-27-2012, 00:16
im horrible at reading.

remington 750?

emopunker2004
01-27-2012, 00:24
saiga ?
:faint: Pretty sure he specified he wants opinions other than saiga

DFin
01-27-2012, 00:28
Armalite AR-10 if it is legal there. Budsgunshop.com & Cheaper than Dirt sell them. Does DPMS make the R-25 for Remington?

WarEagle32
01-27-2012, 00:33
I have a DPMS LR-308B that I have tricked out to make it basically a SASS. The DPMS 308 got rifle of the year a couple of years ago. Look at the DPMS SASS, also the 308L, 308B and AP4 are fine guns. They are very good for the money. Crucial to use PMags in the gun. The Remington you are looking at is a fine gun as well. I might buy one soon. Remington owns Bushmaster and DPMS. So the SR -25 you are looking at is made by DPMS it's just has Remington name. For the money you are on the right path with any decision you make. Just about any of the AR style 308's out there now are very good guns.

Baba Louie
01-27-2012, 08:30
If you know of other <$2K, .308 semi alternatives in So CA...

While it is black and certainly less than $2K, it might not be evil enough... :whistling:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_57_982/products_id/42048/Remington+750+308+CARBINE+SYN

MajorD
01-27-2012, 13:25
if in your shoes I'd go with an M1a/m14 type myself. Remington got into ar's after the umbrella company cerebrus later named freedom gorup consolidated a bunch of companies including dpms,bushmaster remington and several others into one large company, so you are essentially buying a dpms/bushmaster gun.

moeman
01-27-2012, 13:35
I dont believe FAL or the PTR91 are legal in CA, but I can't be sure.

We can get them (w/ bullet button). However, I would like a rifle scope ready w/ a rail.

I read that PTR's don't cycle on a lot of the cheap ammo... kind of scared me away.

moeman
01-27-2012, 13:37
While it is black and certainly less than $2K, it might not be evil enough... :whistling:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_57_982/products_id/42048/Remington+750+308+CARBINE+SYN

The 750 is a definate alternative... Priced right :)

Have you shot one?

moeman
01-27-2012, 13:41
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct793.aspx
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct954.aspx
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct792.aspx

All of the above are nice.

Any experience w/ mounting a scope on a FAL or PTR?

e.g. The primary reason I don't like Springfiled M1's is the scope mount... Much rather have a picatinny rail so I can mix and match easily w/ other rifles and not have to mess w/ the rings.

ranger88
01-27-2012, 14:57
We can get them (w/ bullet button). However, I would like a rifle scope ready w/ a rail.

I read that PTR's don't cycle on a lot of the cheap ammo... kind of scared me away.

My PTR-91 will cycle all the ammo that I can feed it with very positive ejection of the spent brass. The only exception to this is soft point ammo. The rifle ends up jamming and then double feeding with any soft point ammo. Also, you won't be able to reload the brass if that's a concern. Otherwise, it's a great shooter. I just got one of the mil-surp Hensoldt scopes with the built in qd mount (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/SCP971-1.html) for mine and can't wait to try it out.

moeman
01-27-2012, 16:55
My PTR-91 will cycle all the ammo that I can feed it with very positive ejection of the spent brass. The only exception to this is soft point ammo. The rifle ends up jamming and then double feeding with any soft point ammo. Also, you won't be able to reload the brass if that's a concern. Otherwise, it's a great shooter. I just got one of the mil-surp Hensoldt scopes with the built in qd mount (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/SCP971-1.html) for mine and can't wait to try it out.

Can't reload because the case is tweaked?

ScarFace88
01-27-2012, 16:58
Can't reload because the case is tweaked?

They beat the living snot out of brass.

m2hmghb
01-27-2012, 20:11
They beat the living snot out of brass.

The chamber has flutes in it to make extraction easier, when fired the brass is pressed against the flutes which are hard to iron out during reloading. End result is fewer firing. Some guys I know will shoot their reloads out of the PTR only when they're ready to get new brass.

ranger88
01-28-2012, 03:59
They beat the living snot out of brass.

I'll say!!! Also, be sure to get a lane on the far right of the range as your brass will be ejected several lanes over. Saving you the grief of learning the hard way, or rather the people on your right learning that you're shooting a PTR. :supergrin: