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Lew-G17
01-29-2012, 20:05
I am considering the purchase of a Dan Wesson Guardian 9mm pistol.

Who here owns or has previously owned a Dan Wesson pistol and what did you think of it?

How is the accuracy and reliability?

sns3guppy
01-29-2012, 20:12
My sole complaint about DW pistols would be their price increases; prior to that, they were quite the deal. Now they're getting close in price, at least published retail, to what other "semi-custom" makes cost.

DW pistols have excellent fit and finish, and function. They're tight, well made, and now have good parts installed. I'm far from ace of the base when it comes to my shooting, but the pistols are accurate and reliable. I'd still take them over Springfield or Colt offerings.

If the choice is spending little more and getting a Les Baer or Wilson, you're probably better off spending the little more, but I think the DW's are hard to beat for what you get.

glock2740
01-29-2012, 20:40
I have nothing but high praises for the two DW's I own. :thumbsup:

9mm Guardian
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/IMG_3648.jpg


.45 CCO
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/IMG_3594.jpg

:)

deadite
01-29-2012, 21:05
Dan Wesson CBOB 10mm

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/DSC00023.jpg

Dan Wesson PM7-45

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/DSCN1939.jpg

I've had a handful of 1911s and I rate Dan Wesson at the very top of production 1911s. Oddly enough, my 2010 manufactured PM7, which is not considered the cream of the Dan Wesson line-up, has easily been the best 1911 I've ever owned when it comes to fit, finish, accuracy, looks, trigger, handling, etc.

deadite

bac1023
01-29-2012, 21:18
Dan Wesson makes a great 1911.

Its a shame prices have gotten so high.

venenoindy
01-30-2012, 01:06
Last year I was lucky to get my DW Valor SS for $1250.00 after the price increase, IMO for the money I paid could not got a better 1911.

redrick
01-30-2012, 15:27
[QUOTE=deadite;18505459]Dan Wesson CBOB 10mm

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/DSC00023.jpg

Dan Wesson PM7-45

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deadite_photos/guns%20with%20new%20camera/DSCN1939.jpg

I've had a handful of 1911s and I rate Dan Wesson at the very top of production 1911s. Oddly enough, my 2010 manufactured PM7, which is not considered the cream of the Dan Wesson line-up, has easily been the best 1911 I've ever owned when it comes to fit, finish, accuracy, looks, trigger, handling, etc.

I feel the same way about my PM9.

Mayhem like Me
01-30-2012, 16:08
I think The DW 10mm C Bob is the pinnacle of concealed firepower....:)

bac1023
01-30-2012, 17:34
Last year I was lucky to get my DW Valor SS for $1250.00 after the price increase, IMO for the money I paid could not got a better 1911.

That's a great price for sure.

Nakanokalronin
01-30-2012, 18:02
I bought my Valor for $1,300 last year. It's fit is tight, quality parts, 100% reliable and very accurate. When I bought it, I was trying to decide between it and the SA TRP. Obviously I chose the Valor and never regretted it. :cool:

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg827/scaled.php?server=827&filename=dwvalor.jpg&res=medium

deadite
01-30-2012, 19:14
I think The DW 10mm C Bob is the pinnacle of concealed firepower....:)

:wavey:

AC45ACP
01-30-2012, 19:35
Dan Wesson's are Great Gun's I've Owned 4 and Really like them.

I bought 2 CBOB's in 2005 one 45 and One 10mm paid $1474 with Tax for both!!

I sold the 45, I still have the 10mm and it's unfired.

knedrgr
01-30-2012, 19:41
In depth review.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1261129

nolt
01-30-2012, 21:39
i had to spend alot of time and effort and money to make mine reliable.

i dont have as high an opinion of DW as most people do... i think the guns they make now are probably pretty good guns. but i also think that they should quit making new models and concentrate on reliability and QA/QC of a solid core of models.
if you get one that works (likely outcome with the new guns) then you'll probably be happy with it.

if you get one that doesnt work then you'll be pissy about it like everyone else that gets one that doesnt work. its especially irritating that you cant say anything about it without all the fanboys jumping on your ass about it.

there. now i feel better.

edit: its also irritating when people who are looking for reasons why their gun wont feed properly are told by a representative of the company 'because its 10mm.' confidence not inspired.

wow. this really is catharsis. fwiw now (after much tuning and some custom work by SACS) im pretty happy with my RZ-10... but id still like to have a grip safety fit on it that doesnt slop around as much.

glock2740
01-30-2012, 23:28
i had to spend alot of time and effort and money to make mine reliable.

i dont have as high an opinion of DW as most people do... i think the guns they make now are probably pretty good guns. but i also think that they should quit making new models and concentrate on reliability and QA/QC of a solid core of models.
if you get one that works (likely outcome with the new guns) then you'll probably be happy with it.

if you get one that doesnt work then you'll be pissy about it like everyone else that gets one that doesnt work. its especially irritating that you cant say anything about it without all the fanboys jumping on your ass about it.

there. now i feel better.

edit: its also irritating when people who are looking for reasons why their gun wont feed properly are told by a representative of the company 'because its 10mm.' confidence not inspired.

wow. this really is catharsis. fwiw now (after much tuning and some custom work by SACS) im pretty happy with my RZ-10... but id still like to have a grip safety fit on it that doesnt slop around as much.
FWIW, the first DW I owned was a stainless 4" revolver in .357 Magnum. Biggest F'ing POS I've ever shot, much less owned. That was almost 20 years ago. Took a long time to try a DW 1911. I've heard that the older ones were not as well built, but I will say that the newer ones are built extremly well and the accuracy is uncanny. :thumbsup:

Nakanokalronin
01-31-2012, 06:34
FWIW, the first DW I owned was a stainless 4" revolver in .357 Magnum. Biggest F'ing POS I've ever shot, much less owned. That was almost 20 years ago. Took a long time to try a DW 1911. I've heard that the older ones were not as well built, but I will say that the newer ones are built extremly well and the accuracy is uncanny. :thumbsup:

My dad thought the same thing when I told him about my Valor. He knows Dan Wesson as so-so firearms with a not so good reputation. I told him today's DW is not the same thing he remembers and after showing him my Valor, he completely agrees.

rb12
01-31-2012, 18:00
I am batting .500. My CCO has been 100% without a blip. Any ammo, every pull no problem. My CBOB has had issues, not all the time, but every now and then. At least enough such that it wont be a carry or bedside piece.

asiparks
01-31-2012, 19:07
My first was a CBOB bought in '07 for $840, there was nothing close on the market price to quality wise...

Prices have gone up considerably, but the quality and assembly has increased proportionally, the name may not have the cachet of some other 1911's but they are top notch. I bought 2 Valors last year and had one of them tweaked by Reid Pistolsmithing. It's my favorite 1911 right now and the total cost was about the same as a Baer TRS.

http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100347/DSCF9996/web.jpg

Stainless valors run around $1400 and you could make the argument to save up another $300-$400 and get a Baer but I have a Baer, and don't think there's any area where the DW gets spanked...

http://gallery.me.com/asiparks/100347/DSCF0063/web.jpg

minderasr
02-01-2012, 20:36
Any thoughts on the Valor V-Bob? I put a deposit on one last week.

TIA

deadite
02-01-2012, 20:53
Any thoughts on the Valor V-Bob? I put a deposit on one last week.

TIA

If I was going to get another Dan Wesson, that would be the one. That's a great 1911!

deadite

brianfede
02-01-2012, 21:39
I have a DW Heritage I recently purchased for $999, great trigger, extremely accurate, my favorite 1911 hands down! I have looked at the Guardian 9mm, and while I know its a great gun, I just couldn't spend $1350. I am hoping to pick up a used one (for $1100 ish) or else I am considering the STI Ranger II.

Lew-G17
02-02-2012, 16:50
Well, I'll know soon enough. I just bought one on GB. It is a "blem" version but I got it for $1175.00 so I am satisfied. It will be a working gun, so I am sure more blems.

brianfede
02-02-2012, 17:32
Well, I'll know soon enough. I just bought one on GB. It is a "blem" version but I got it for $1175.00 so I am satisfied. It will be a working gun, so I am sure more blems.


Congrats!!!!!!!! Have fun breaking her in.

I was looking at that Blem model as well. Please update when u get it and let us know what you think. Any idea if it still comes with the same DW warranty?

thanks

Lew-G17
02-02-2012, 18:24
It is my understanding that the full factory warranty is in effect. These have finish damage only.

B_RAD
02-02-2012, 18:57
Bud's has black Valors for $1515. I called and asked if they were blems and was told they were not. I asked if they could tell me if they were '10 or later built and they could not answer or tell me any numbers of the serial #. I asked if I bought one and it wes pre '10 if I could send it back with out a re-stocking fee? Their answer was no. A 10% re-stocking fee would be charged.



I did not buy it.

sk65
02-02-2012, 19:17
I have a pre CZ DW 10mm 1911, had to send it back right away due mainly to poor workmanship on the buffer assembly, but since then it's been perfect.

Although I've decided not to buy a second as I cannot get a response from them about their product line. I've been e mailing them for several months and get nothing.

I would continue to ask around and make sure to they still have good customer service before you make a purchase.

Just my .02

Trader_bob01
02-02-2012, 20:44
I bought a DW PMA-10, my first 10mm, and have never had any issues with it.
http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae246/trader_bob01/DWPMA-10-1.jpg

minderasr
02-04-2012, 18:54
Put 150 flawless rounds (100 ball, 50 JHP) through my vbob today. Love this gun! A couple of pictures, second shot along side my SR1911.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ySRCnAa205I/TyyiGme7sqI/AAAAAAAAAVo/Xu8b-5oqQXY/s640/DW1.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-aw9IJvGKbzc/TyyiG14gaYI/AAAAAAAAAV4/eRaWEtqhgs8/s640/DW3.jpg

:cool:

ca survivor
02-09-2012, 16:40
I think The DW 10mm C Bob is the pinnacle of concealed firepower....:)
I concur.

RMTactical
02-10-2012, 01:06
I have a CBOB in .45 that has been very good. Only one stoppage I can recall and it was almost certainly mag related.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/RMTactical/IMG_6352.jpg

rokay
02-10-2012, 08:47
i have a pre cz limited edition (forged frame) ss 10mm razorback. it's one of my favorites.

Nakanokalronin
02-10-2012, 10:04
I'm really looking forward to the ECO and some range reports. If it works out, it will eventually replace my Ultra Carry as my Winter EDC.

deadite
02-10-2012, 11:17
I have a CBOB in .45 that has been very good. Only one stoppage I can recall and it was almost certainly mag related.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u87/RMTactical/IMG_6352.jpg

Cbobs are just great looking Commanders. It may be my fave.

deadite

Showitzer
02-10-2012, 12:30
I picked up my Black Valor (which I ordered from Buds this AM). It has a test fire date of 12/09/11. Gun is not a blem... is immaculate and tight. Cant wait to fire it this weekend!

minderasr
02-10-2012, 17:12
Please pardon my ignorance, but what's the difference between a cbob and a vbob?

TIA

Lew-G17
02-10-2012, 18:08
Please pardon my ignorance, but what's the difference between a cbob and a vbob?

TIA

The Cbob is an older version of the pistol. They are usually a little cheaper.

deadite
02-10-2012, 21:17
Please pardon my ignorance, but what's the difference between a cbob and a vbob?

TIA

The Cbob is an older version of the pistol. They are usually a little cheaper.

The Cbob is the "Classic" Commander that's bob tailed. The Vbob is the "Valor" Commander that's also bobtailed. In general, the Vbob is a nicer gun that has a higher level of fit and finish. This is not to say that the Cbob is a crappy gun. Actually, it's a really nice Commander-sized 1911.

Also, while I think that the VCbob is a nicer over-all 1911, personally, I like the looks of the Cbob better.

deadite

Lew-G17
02-11-2012, 09:12
UPDATE. I have received the Guardian and finally had an opportunity for a quick trip to the range. The pistol ran very well and I am satisfied with the accuracy. It feels great in the hand, love the bob-tail look and feel. The trigger will take some getting used to for me as most of my others are about 5 lbs and this one is more like 3.5 to 4.

This is a "belm" model that had a minor scratch on the bevertail, but saved me quite a bit of money. This will be a working gun, that get's carried regularly, so there will be more to come. My gunsmith touched it up when I picked it up from his shop.

My first impression of the pistol is very good. It is very well put together with a very smooth fit to the barrel, bushing, and slide to frame. As I said above, it fits my very hands well, to the point that I will probably leave the stock grips on it for a while.

Photo below is of the target, shot from 30 feet, rapid fire. Basically the same cadence I used for IPSC matches, sight picture and trigger press, less than one second per round.

Yes the pistol does have excessive oil on it. I run mine very wet for the first couple of hundred rounds.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm115/Lew-G17/IMG_0438.jpg

deadite
02-11-2012, 10:25
UPDATE. I have received the Guardian and finally had an opportunity for a quick trip to the range. The pistol ran very well and I am satisfied with the accuracy. It feels great in the hand, love the bob-tail look and feel. The trigger will take some getting used to for me as most of my others are about 5 lbs and this one is more like 3.5 to 4.

This is a "belm" model that had a minor scratch on the bevertail, but saved me quite a bit of money. This will be a working gun, that get's carried regularly, so there will be more to come. My gunsmith touched it up when I picked it up from his shop.

My first impression of the pistol is very good. It is very well put together with a very smooth fit to the barrel, bushing, and slide to frame. As I said above, it fits my very hands well, to the point that I will probably leave the stock grips on it for a while.

Photo below is of the target, shot from 30 feet, rapid fire. Basically the same cadence I used for IPSC matches, sight picture and trigger press, less than one second per round.

Yes the pistol does have excessive oil on it. I run mine very wet for the first couple of hundred rounds.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm115/Lew-G17/IMG_0438.jpg

Great looking 1911! Congrats!

gruntmedik
02-12-2012, 15:01
I love my VBOB. It is more accurate than I am. Reminds me, I need to make it dirty again.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b180/gruntmedik/Gun%20porn/VBOB010Resize.jpg

glock2740
02-12-2012, 15:47
UPDATE. I have received the Guardian and finally had an opportunity for a quick trip to the range. The pistol ran very well and I am satisfied with the accuracy. It feels great in the hand, love the bob-tail look and feel. The trigger will take some getting used to for me as most of my others are about 5 lbs and this one is more like 3.5 to 4.

This is a "belm" model that had a minor scratch on the bevertail, but saved me quite a bit of money. This will be a working gun, that get's carried regularly, so there will be more to come. My gunsmith touched it up when I picked it up from his shop.

My first impression of the pistol is very good. It is very well put together with a very smooth fit to the barrel, bushing, and slide to frame. As I said above, it fits my very hands well, to the point that I will probably leave the stock grips on it for a while.

Photo below is of the target, shot from 30 feet, rapid fire. Basically the same cadence I used for IPSC matches, sight picture and trigger press, less than one second per round.

Yes the pistol does have excessive oil on it. I run mine very wet for the first couple of hundred rounds.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm115/Lew-G17/IMG_0438.jpg
Congrats! :thumbsup:

glock2740
02-12-2012, 15:47
I love my VBOB. It is more accurate than I am. Reminds me, I need to make it dirty again.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b180/gruntmedik/Gun%20porn/VBOB010Resize.jpg
Good looking gun.

minderasr
02-12-2012, 18:28
I love my VBOB. It is more accurate than I am.

Oddly enough I feel exactly the same way about mine.

:wavey:

GOOFA
02-13-2012, 05:46
I purchased a new V-BOB a couple of months ago. Dan Wesson's quality just gets better and better each and every year. This is my best specimen so far. My first 5 shots were a fine indication of what I was to expect from this new V-BOB. At 21 ft. my first shot was an inch above the bullseye, shots 2,3,4 and 5 were in the same hole a half inch left of the bullseye. I don't recall doing that well from any of my other pistols. Keith and crew are doing a phenominal job at Dan Wesson. My V-BOB can hang with those 1911's costing twice as much and that's the whole truth and nothing but the truth.:supergrin:


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6118/6268323425_63d1c4f479_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6212/6268845962_15643e7181_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6213/6268834722_9bac84bde0_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6113/6268305669_5ae61612ec_z.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6610709577_6b6af27a34_z.jpg

glock2740
02-13-2012, 06:59
I purchased a new V-BOB a couple of months ago. Dan Wesson's quality just gets better and better each and every year. This is my best specimen so far. My first 5 shots were a fine indication of what I was to expect from this new V-BOB. At 21 ft. my first shot was an inch above the bullseye, shots 2,3,4 and 5 were in the same hole a half inch left of the bullseye. I don't recall doing that well from any of my other pistols. Keith and crew are doing a phenominal job at Dan Wesson. My V-BOB can hang with those 1911's costing twice as much and that's the whole truth and nothing but the truth.:supergrin:


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6118/6268323425_63d1c4f479_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6212/6268845962_15643e7181_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6213/6268834722_9bac84bde0_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6113/6268305669_5ae61612ec_z.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6610709577_6b6af27a34_z.jpg
I agree. My Guardian is probably the gun I shoot the best. 25 yard offhand head shots on silouhette targets have always been very "hit and miss" for me, until I got my Guardian. My CCO is a very close second.

deadite
02-13-2012, 17:35
I purchased a new V-BOB a couple of months ago. Dan Wesson's quality just gets better and better each and every year. This is my best specimen so far. My first 5 shots were a fine indication of what I was to expect from this new V-BOB. At 21 ft. my first shot was an inch above the bullseye, shots 2,3,4 and 5 were in the same hole a half inch left of the bullseye. I don't recall doing that well from any of my other pistols. Keith and crew are doing a phenominal job at Dan Wesson. My V-BOB can hang with those 1911's costing twice as much and that's the whole truth and nothing but the truth.:supergrin:


http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6118/6268323425_63d1c4f479_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6212/6268845962_15643e7181_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6213/6268834722_9bac84bde0_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6113/6268305669_5ae61612ec_z.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7141/6610709577_6b6af27a34_z.jpg

I like the way you photographed the gun with the different colored backgrounds.

deadite

GOOFA
02-14-2012, 08:37
Glock2740... What a great looking pair! They look fantastic all black. What finish are on your Guardian & CCO?

GOOFA
02-14-2012, 08:45
UPDATE. I have received the Guardian and finally had an opportunity for a quick trip to the range. The pistol ran very well and I am satisfied with the accuracy. It feels great in the hand, love the bob-tail look and feel. The trigger will take some getting used to for me as most of my others are about 5 lbs and this one is more like 3.5 to 4.

This is a "belm" model that had a minor scratch on the bevertail, but saved me quite a bit of money. This will be a working gun, that get's carried regularly, so there will be more to come. My gunsmith touched it up when I picked it up from his shop.

My first impression of the pistol is very good. It is very well put together with a very smooth fit to the barrel, bushing, and slide to frame. As I said above, it fits my very hands well, to the point that I will probably leave the stock grips on it for a while.

Photo below is of the target, shot from 30 feet, rapid fire. Basically the same cadence I used for IPSC matches, sight picture and trigger press, less than one second per round.

Yes the pistol does have excessive oil on it. I run mine very wet for the first couple of hundred rounds.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm115/Lew-G17/IMG_0438.jpg

You mentioned that your VBOB trigger is around 5lb., my VBOB came out of the box @ 3lb. 15oz. and my Commander Classic @ 3lb. 9oz. , pretty much similar to your Guardian.

majette
02-14-2012, 21:00
no experience with dw but i am now interested since they introduced a railed 1911.

deadite
02-15-2012, 05:34
no experience with dw but i am now interested since they introduced a railed 1911.

While I can see the utility of a rail on a 1911, personally, I couldn't own one. It's like a trailer hitch on a Corvette.

deadite

triggerjerk
02-15-2012, 13:52
I had a VERY early '09 CCO.

It carried awesome and was very accurate.
However, it never played well with Wilson mags and after a 1000 rounds or so started to
jam repeatedly on hollow points. Dunno what caused that.

Since it was a carry gun I lost faith in it. I had no problem finding a new home for it.

I would buy another one again. Probably a black Valor after I make some other purchases.

TACLOAD
05-19-2012, 18:25
Bought a ss model VBOB and sold it for the same price I bought it for. Bought a Dec 2011 black VBOB before I left the states and will never sell it. I've sold and traded guns for years,but the VBOB was the only one I regretted selling. That and a 20SF. I replaced that one too!

fnfalman
05-19-2012, 18:28
I had a VERY early '09 CCO.

It carried awesome and was very accurate.
However, it never played well with Wilson mags and after a 1000 rounds or so started to
jam repeatedly on hollow points. Dunno what caused that.

Since it was a carry gun I lost faith in it. I had no problem finding a new home for it.

I would buy another one again. Probably a black Valor after I make some other purchases.

You should have tried different manufacturers' mags. Wilson mags aren't the be-all-end-all like people make them out to be.

Shark1007
05-19-2012, 20:45
Bought a Guardian in .45, bobtailed.

Issues with magazines, took cust svc. 3 or 4 weeks to send new mags after I shipped old ones back. Compare this to Sig, where I called and they shipped two out the next day without confirmation of serial number, etc.

I found I shot poorly with the Guardian, pulled to left and I think it's the bobtail vs 40 years of shooting regular .45's.

I traded it to a guy for a US Military Academy Colt Custom Shop Stainless Commander.

I did feel fit and finish was generally great and didn't really like the slide finish because after cleaning it never looked uniform to me.

SauerChoi
05-19-2012, 21:08
I have a SS VBOB and can't say nothing but good things about it.

So far I have 500 rounds or so through it and it's been great. Even the supplied Checkmate flush 8 round mags have been flawless as well. I thought the flush 8 rounders were going to be nothing but trouble but I am very pleased with them.

H&K .45 AUTO
05-20-2012, 08:16
Every morning, when I first get out of bed, I immediately swing my right leg in a rearward motion quickly enough that I manage to kick my own butt. I do this because I stupidly traded away a prototype model Dan Wesson Pointman (serial # 52) in 10mm. It was an exceptional pistol from back before they were even offered as production guns. It was without question the most accurate handgun I have ever fired, and was 100% reliable. My lack of funds at a time when I was lusting for something new caused me to let it go. I hold Dan Wesson 1911's in high regard.