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crsuribe
01-30-2012, 21:36
Hey guys,

I've looked online and so far haven't been able to find a solution to my problem.

I carry my pistol in a Don Hume H715 IWB holster that I like a lot. Only problem is almost everytime I draw my pistol out of it, the holster remains attached to it because the clip is garbage and doesn't really hold on to the belt.

I don't want to find another holster and think there might be something I can do to modify or (preferably) replace the clip with something with a better design.

Anyone else having the same problem or know where I can find a solution?

Bullwinkle J Moose
01-31-2012, 08:12
Most holsters I have with metal clips like those work so well that I have difficulty putting them on and taking them off my belt. But I use beefy gun belts. You are putting the clip over the belt, right? If you are using a thin flimsy dress belt, that could be your problem and you need a gun belt. If not, you can stretch a very tight leather holster by putting the gun in a sandwich/freezer type bag, holstering it and leaving it overnight or longer. If it doesn't stretch enough try two bags. I suppose it's also possible the clip is sprung. If all else fails, call Don Hume for advice. If it's a new holster, they should make it good, if it is defective.

Jake-Gallows
01-31-2012, 08:40
I am a big fan of Don Hume holsters, and own quite a few. My G19, G34 and G26 all ride in a Don Hume H721-OT. The 715 is the one holster of theirs that I own and stopped carrying. The clip does not hold the gun in any position, it moves way too much, and I like my gun to be in a certain place when I reach for it. The weakness of the 715 is the clip, it is what it is...a single clip.
Don Hume has great customer service, and better IWB designs out there, I would give them a call and see about trading it, etc
I know you said you didnt want to get rid of it...but it is a problem design

crsuribe
01-31-2012, 21:00
I just want to replace the clip 'cause it doesn't work. Otherwise the holster is great. Anyone I can pay to make me a kydex clip or something?

rvrctyrngr
01-31-2012, 23:09
I just want to replace the clip 'cause it doesn't work. Otherwise the holster is great. Anyone I can pay to make me a kydex clip or something?

Where do you carry the pistol? Are you trying to cant the holster at all?

I've been using that model with numerous guns for years. I carry in the appendix position with that holster. Thousands of draws and I've never had the rig come out with the gun.

Perhaps you are not utilizing the rig for it's designed purpose.

Mudshark100
02-01-2012, 19:22
I use a 715 fairly regularly. I wear it canted and still have no problem with it staying in place when I draw. Mine is a great holster. I usually use the 715 on days when I will be putting the holster on and off during the day (like when I am going to work and have to leave it in the car). Depending on what I am wearing that day, I may be using the holster with regular dress belt or my thicker Cross Breed gun belt. Regardless of the belt, I have no problems with the holster staying in place. Just my experience.

valian
02-02-2012, 11:58
I have had problems with the clip on 715 when using thick belts. The clips they use are not good at all and a thick belt will push/angle the bottom out so it will not catch on the belt.
I do not think you will find a simple way to replace the clip. What you want is a clip like that used by Fist holsters (and some old Sarariland Holsters that i have) that has an added hook in the center of the main clip to hook the belt.

mj9mm
02-02-2012, 12:02
i've made about a dozen holsters of my own recently, and i have used a velcro strip in place of leather loops, and it works very well, it holds tight , but is easy to remove when i take the holster off at night:wavey:

crsuribe
02-02-2012, 16:56
Where do you carry the pistol? Are you trying to cant the holster at all?

I've been using that model with numerous guns for years. I carry in the appendix position with that holster. Thousands of draws and I've never had the rig come out with the gun.

Perhaps you are not utilizing the rig for it's designed purpose.

3 o' clock

I use a 715 fairly regularly. I wear it canted and still have no problem with it staying in place when I draw. Mine is a great holster. I usually use the 715 on days when I will be putting the holster on and off during the day (like when I am going to work and have to leave it in the car). Depending on what I am wearing that day, I may be using the holster with regular dress belt or my thicker Cross Breed gun belt. Regardless of the belt, I have no problems with the holster staying in place. Just my experience.
It seems like the thickness of my belt and jeans doesnt allow the clip to wrap the retaining end around the belt so it doesnt hold on to it when I draw.

I have had problems with the clip on 715 when using thick belts. The clips they use are not good at all and a thick belt will push/angle the bottom out so it will not catch on the belt.
I do not think you will find a simple way to replace the clip. What you want is a clip like that used by Fist holsters (and some old Sarariland Holsters that i have) that has an added hook in the center of the main clip to hook the belt.
YES. You completely understood the issue. That is exactly what happens to me... the belt seems too thick. Exactly what you described. I wish it had a clip that would actually hook onto the belt.

i've made about a dozen holsters of my own recently, and i have used a velcro strip in place of leather loops, and it works very well, it holds tight , but is easy to remove when i take the holster off at night:wavey:
Nice suggestion. I will look into something like that.


Really wish there was just someone who could make me a clip that doesn't suck for this otherwise perfect holster.

valian
02-02-2012, 19:02
OK i got more curious about this problem and decided to examine the holster and clip. I noticed a substantial 'bump' at the upper surface of the leather covering the clip. I removed to clip to see what is the cause of the bump because i am sure it contributes to the thickness of the belt pushing the clip out more.
The bump is caused by 2 small sharp prongs of steel pushed out from the clip to help prevent the clip from coming out of the leather. As the bump at the bottom of the clip protruding from the leather has the same function and other holsters do not seem to have these prongs it is a little redundant, and the prongs did not seem to retard removal of the clip when i removed it (just used a screwdriver to carefully lift the leather ath the bottom 'bump' while pushing out with fingers .
Using pliers i flattened the prongs, and it does help the situation a little using a reinforced uncle mike's instructor style belt (which btw i have been wearing nearly every day for 8 years now and still going strong and very stiff still). in the end i switched the clip from an old safariland nylon iwb holster i do not use because the size is almost identical.. this one has the hook i spoke of.

You could also try to buy another clip online. i have searched for one with the hook without success. If anyone knows a source i would sure like to know about it!!! You can usually buy clips from companies that sell knife making supplies. If you measure the pertinent dimensions you could probably match it up and maybe get one with a little wider opening.
I think it was the maker of Fist holsters who mentioned somewhere on his site that until he found this style clip he did not offer an iwb clip on because he considered it not secure enough with normal clips.

Good luck
valian

crsuribe
02-02-2012, 21:08
And I would agree with him. I will definitely check out your suggestion and report any findings if I'm able to fix the problem.

rvrctyrngr
02-02-2012, 22:01
Thanks for clarifying, crsuribe. The thickness of the belt would definitely be an issue if the heel of the clip is not getting under the edge of the belt.

I'll take one of mine over to a buddy that works with Kydex. Will see if maybe he can design a longer kydex talon-type clip for this holster.

killingjoke
02-02-2012, 22:10
I also have a H715 with the same problem.what works for me is the holster clip behind the belt at a 3:30 position.So far so good. I wear mostly jeans so there's no sag.carry G23

crsuribe
02-03-2012, 20:54
Yeah I've been carrying with the clip under the belt and it works most of the time; usually when the belt is tight then the holster won't come out with the gun.

So I want a 100% solution; something that will allow me to carry with the clip on top of the belt and hooked to it so that the holster won't remain attached to the gun when I draw.

rvrctyrngr (http://glocktalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37248), Please let me know if your friend comes up with something!

Thanks for the insight guys. So far the issue remains unresolved but if I find a fix, I will definitely share it here.

rvrctyrngr
02-04-2012, 18:41
Yeah I've been carrying with the clip under the belt and it works most of the time; usually when the belt is tight then the holster won't come out with the gun.

So I want a 100% solution; something that will allow me to carry with the clip on top of the belt and hooked to it so that the holster won't remain attached to the gun when I draw.

rvrctyrngr (http://glocktalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37248), Please let me know if your friend comes up with something!

Thanks for the insight guys. So far the issue remains unresolved but if I find a fix, I will definitely share it here.

Will do. I'm going to see him on Monday.

Curious why you put the clip under the belt and not over, as it was designed to be used?

crsuribe
02-04-2012, 20:18
Will do. I'm going to see him on Monday.

Curious why you put the clip under the belt and not over, as it was designed to be used?

Because as stated in previous posts the thickness of the belt keeps the clip pushed upward at an angle in a way that doesn't allow it to grab the belt at all.

JackMac
02-04-2012, 20:25
mine works just fine if I use a gun dress belt...like ones made by Galco or the like....as they are better and thicker leather than most dress belts. For Glock 26, you may want to check out Mika pocket holsters....affordable and I was extremely satisfied with mine. Custom made,...the date it was made....your name on the inside. Really nice piece of work.

rvrctyrngr
02-04-2012, 20:28
Because as stated in previous posts the thickness of the belt keeps the clip pushed upward at an angle in a way that doesn't allow it to grab the belt at all.

Gotcha. That'll help. Thanks.

drobs
02-06-2012, 06:40
I found I needed to either draw a couple hundred times from my Don Hume holsters & use a product called Leather Lightning to get the holsters to loosen up.

http://www.mitchrosen.com/product_line/miscellaneous/body_miscellaneous.html

Have a JIT slide holster & what I believe was called a Double Nine holster.

They are tight holsters, gotta loosen em up a bit.

crsuribe
02-08-2012, 08:50
That's probably part of the problem! Thank you

hawgrider
02-08-2012, 09:35
why don't you try some wax paper doubled over and slide the gun in and out some to see if it helps any.

larson1122
02-08-2012, 15:31
I know you don't want to purchase a new holster but if you end up not being able to fix your current setup I suggest trying a Gazelle Holster. They are basically the same design as the Don Hume and have a very large strong clip. I picked one up for around $40 and love it.

Nakanokalronin
02-08-2012, 21:16
I used to use the 715 DH holsters when I first started carrying. I then went with the Bianchi 100 line and Wilderness belt and never looked back. Other holsters are nice like the Crossbreed Supertuck but as for easy on/off holsters, the Bianchi 100 has better leather, is more stable, have a sweat guard and much better/wider clip over the DH 715.

drobs
02-09-2012, 06:15
Looking at Don Hume's website, their Strike holster, looks like it would solve some of your problems with pulling the holster with the gun.

The belt loop looks more secure than a clip. Not sure I care for the thumb snap though.

http://www.donhume.com/images/large/2008/iwbstrike_LRG.jpg

http://www.donhume.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=65_5&products_id=762

Kinda spendy, check ebay before buying direct. Find you can get most DH holsters on there brand new for much less $.

I've been carrying my Glocks (19 & 26) in a Galco Matrix belt holster:
http://www.usgalco.com/Catalog/normal/MATRIXM8.jpg
http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPG3.asp?ProductID=2783&GunID=47

I like how I can snap it on and off my belt. Usually just have an untucked shirt over it.

valian
03-07-2012, 14:30
A little update. i found a clip ALMOST like what i talked about. I have not ordered and tried one yet but may do so soon. In the meantime here is a link and you can see the clip # C1310-00 to see the hook/talon i am talking about on the clip (Heavy duty large spring clip).

It may be able to be fitted to the Hume but would prefer to find one with the lower 'bump' on the clip to fit the slot in the hume leather.

http://sdtradingco.com/hardware-other.htm

drobs
03-07-2012, 18:15
A little update. i found a clip ALMOST like what i talked about. I have not ordered and tried one yet but may do so soon. In the meantime here is a link and you can see the clip # C1310-00 to see the hook/talon i am talking about on the clip (Heavy duty large spring clip).

It may be able to be fitted to the Hume but would prefer to find one with the lower 'bump' on the clip to fit the slot in the hume leather.

http://sdtradingco.com/hardware-other.htm

I'd give Don Hume a call and see if they can send/sell you the clip and mounting screws for that DH holster I posted.
Figure you could drill a couple holes with a power drill and mount that clip yourself.

If the clip (from DH) is cheap I'd give it a shot.

Otherwise I'd look for a different holster.

crsuribe
03-07-2012, 21:22
Oh hey thank you for that link!

Sorry about not updating earlier! I butchered it and fixed it. Took the clip off a Comp-Tac and cut it at the right length and... well, let me just upload a picture. It's easier than explaining the mess haha!

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee56/crsuribe/100E0874.jpg

Works almost perfect now. I just wish the clip was a little wider but it really is exactly what I was looking for and it now has my trust 100%.

ca survivor
03-08-2012, 18:48
your belt is too thick, Don Hume's is all I used IWB and some of the guns belts are to thick, for the clip to hold on.

Boom Vang
07-15-2012, 21:46
I've carried all manner of pistols and revolvers on a daily basis for the past 15 years in various Don Hume H715 holsters...sometimes 10-12 hour days, with jeans, shorts, tactical pants, leather belts, pleather belts, "instructor" belts, etc. Never ever had a problem, never replaced a holster yet, and my holster for the G23 gets worn 5 days a week. Either your gun is not fitting in the holster properly, the holster was mis-sewn somehow, or your belt is way too thick. Check the holster fit, change your belt, or send the holster back to Don Hume for them to check.