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crazycathed
01-31-2012, 18:01
has anyone had experience with any of the nighthawk line? from what I've heard they are excellent pistols. I'm going to purchase 2. 10MM long slide and ladyhawk 9MM. the reviews I've seen say their hand made, trigger pull is light and crisp. the grip is like velcro. rounded edge beveled magwell. I haven't heard any complaints thus far.

Ube
01-31-2012, 18:22
Check on the 1911 forums, I don't have any personal experience but did see a couple of high end 1911's go down at a training facility. I shot 1200 breaking mine in at that facility, but the two high end ones that I saw go down went down around 300 rounds.

The problem I saw with one of the high end ones was that the mags had to be manufacturer specific. I watched 3 LEO instructors wrestle a magazine out of one of them.

20South
01-31-2012, 18:29
oh boy
:popcorn:

HexHead
01-31-2012, 18:49
This is the Talon II I'd had for 3.5 years now. Other than some initial magazine issues (bad batch of springs) which I resolved using Wilson 47D mags, it's been flawless. Ball, JHP, LSWC, it eats them all without issue. No complaints with it's accuracy either. I can't speak to what they're turning out now, but I have no regrets.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/scat999999/misc/DSC_0022-2.jpg

RH45
01-31-2012, 18:56
Check on the 1911 forums, I don't have any personal experience but did see a couple of high end 1911's go down at a training facility. I shot 1200 breaking mine in at that facility, but the two high end ones that I saw go down went down around 300 rounds.

The problem I saw with one of the high end ones was that the mags had to be manufacturer specific. I watched 3 LEO instructors wrestle a magazine out of one of them.

It sounds to me like the gun was in slide lock, and the new mag was inserted with too much force.:wow:

Ube
01-31-2012, 19:01
It sounds to me like the gun was in slide lock, and the new mag was inserted with too much force.:wow:

The first one had it's linkage separate from the barrel, the second one with the magazine problem was manufacturer's specified and designed mags.

But aren't you supposed to be able to slap a mag in and keep rockin?

glock2740
01-31-2012, 19:32
has anyone had experience with any of the nighthawk line? from what I've heard they are excellent pistols. I'm going to purchase 2. 10MM long slide and ladyhawk 9MM. the reviews I've seen say their hand made, trigger pull is light and crisp. the grip is like velcro. rounded edge beveled magwell. I haven't heard any complaints thus far.
While I'm not a huge fan of the newer NH's, I like your choices. NH has always been a top notch company, and I'm sure they still make a great gun, yet I like their older models. I still think they make one of the best looking 1911's out there. :cool: You picked 2 GREAT models. :thumbsup:

Wild Gene
01-31-2012, 19:45
I was just told the wait is currently 18 months.

bac1023
01-31-2012, 20:08
has anyone had experience with any of the nighthawk line? from what I've heard they are excellent pistols. I'm going to purchase 2. 10MM long slide and ladyhawk 9MM. the reviews I've seen say their hand made, trigger pull is light and crisp. the grip is like velcro. rounded edge beveled magwell. I haven't heard any complaints thus far.

I've had great luck with both of my Nighthawks.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/052.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/068.jpg




http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/047-2.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/050.jpg

20South
01-31-2012, 20:50
I wouldn't be surprised by the 18 mos lead time. I ordered a FrankenFalcon back in August and was basically advised not to even start checking in on it until August this year. I am in no hurry, so it doesn't bother me any. There were a lot of rumblings about NH late last year, but I agree with Glock2740, they build a great looking pistol and the folks I know who have handled even a couple of the newer ones attested to the fact that the build quality appeared to be there. You did pick two great models. Congrats!

BlayGlock
02-01-2012, 04:29
Just opt for a finish other than Permacoat and you will be fine.

bac1023
02-01-2012, 05:31
Just opt for a finish other than Permacoat and you will be fine.

I don't like the Permacote either.

However, the hard chrome vender is outstanding.

SpringerTGO
02-01-2012, 08:50
People here are pretty tired of hearing about my opinions of Nighthawk. I won't re-post my issues, but you can easily find mine (and others) with a little digging.
I wouldn't touch another Nighthawk. I would go for Wilson, Baer or Springfield Custom if I wanted another expensive 1911.
Personally, I don't think $3000 1911's should have Kimber parts in them, unless they are made by Kimber.

fnfalman
02-01-2012, 09:20
People here are pretty tired of hearing about my opinions of Nighthawk. I won't re-post my issues, but you can easily find mine (and others) with a little digging.
I wouldn't touch another Nighthawk. I would go for Wilson, Baer or Springfield Custom if I wanted another expensive 1911.
Personally, I don't think $3000 1911's should have Kimber parts in them, unless they are made by Kimber.

Personally I think that a custom made/hand fitted $3000 gun should be perfect. Otherwise, what's the point of buying a "custom made/hand fitted gun by artisans"?

And I don't give a damn what others claim about Nighthawk customer service. Your experience with them was uncalled for.

ca survivor
02-01-2012, 09:40
This is the Talon II I'd had for 3.5 years now. Other than some initial magazine issues (bad batch of springs) which I resolved using Wilson 47D mags, it's been flawless. Ball, JHP, LSWC, it eats them all without issue. No complaints with it's accuracy either. I can't speak to what they're turning out now, but I have no regrets.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/scat999999/misc/DSC_0022-2.jpg
Niiiiiice Hawk

HexHead
02-01-2012, 10:04
Niiiiiice Hawk

Thanks. There were lots of mods to it. They even had to redo the slide since they had checkered the rear of it like the standard one, instead of serrations to match the Heinie Straight-8 sights. Had them leave "Talon II" off the slide too since they were redoing it. Added a couple of extra weeks to my build, which was around 14-16 weeks back then.

Bodyarmorguy
02-01-2012, 10:16
I had a Nighthawk 10-8 model that was a flawless shooter. I only got rid of it as part of a trade to get a vintage 70's Colt built by Richard Heinie, who oddly enough, collaborates with NH these days.

Mags are not manufacturer specific to a pistol as another poster listed and the mag problem he is talking about was probably the result of a novice slamming an empty mag into the pistol with the slide locked to the rear and the follower rode up over the slide stop.

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/DSC_0781.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z251/bodyarmorguy/DSC_1555.jpg

SpringerTGO
02-01-2012, 10:47
Personally I think that a custom made/hand fitted $3000 gun should be perfect. Otherwise, what's the point of buying a "custom made/hand fitted gun by artisans"?

And I don't give a damn what others claim about Nighthawk customer service. Your experience with them was uncalled for.

Thanks fnfalman.
The funny thing is that when I posted about my issues with Nighthawk I was PM'd by other Nighthawk owners who had similar experiences.
They were afraid to go public, because they wanted to be able to send their Nighthawks in for service. But there are still plenty of bad posts about Nighthawk.
And then there are the people who get offended about negative Nighthawk posts, because it hurts their investment.

I read about the magazine issue. How some people consider it great service, that Nighthawk knew they had a bad batch of magazines, so they kept sending replacements out of the bad batch hoping some would work.
Come on! These are expensive 1911's. Don't you think a high end company could eat some magazines (or return them to their vendor) and get quality replacements? What if their customers actually use these 1911's for self defense? Should they have to trouble shoot magazines on $3000 1911's?

I ordered mine on the advice of a friend who worked for a gun shop that sold Nighthawk. And Nighthawk treated me very well (other than lying to me about their safety) until they got my money.

And if you go to one of the other 1911 forums, you can read right out of Larry Lyles (Nighthawk Customer Service) mouth where he says they would have fixed my issue, but because of my bad posts I can suck sand.

Bodyarmorguy
02-01-2012, 17:20
Wow STGO, that sux the experience that you had. I guess over the years I have been pretty fortunate. I have had box stock Colts, Springfields and Kimbers, production customs from Nighthawk, Wilson and Springfield and customs from Dave Erickson, Richard Hieinie, Yost-Bonitz and Jason Burton and never had anything that had to go back to the factory or required any emails or calls with complaints. To date, the only gun that I had problems with was a 9mm Combat Commander back in the mid 80's that went through a couple of extractors before we got it tuned right for reliable extraction. Color me lucky.

DrtyHarry
02-01-2012, 17:37
has anyone had experience with any of the nighthawk line? from what I've heard they are excellent pistols. I'm going to purchase 2. 10MM long slide and ladyhawk 9MM. the reviews I've seen say their hand made, trigger pull is light and crisp. the grip is like velcro. rounded edge beveled magwell. I haven't heard any complaints thus far.

Nighthawks are top shelf 1911s for sure, never heard anyone complain about them (aside from a few Wilson owners...lol). If I was going to get a 10mm longslide, I would strongly consider a custom build from Fusion Arms. They have been making longslide 10mms for a while and they shoot like a dream. You will also save some extra $$. IMHO. Good luck!




Harry

glock2740
02-01-2012, 18:48
I've had great luck with both of my Nighthawks.


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/052.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/068.jpg




http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/047-2.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/050.jpg
Love those 2 guns. Here's my only NH.
http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/NewDWCCOandNHPII021.jpg


http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/NewDWCCOandNHPII019.jpg

bac1023
02-01-2012, 19:26
Thanks Joe :)

glock2740
02-01-2012, 19:30
I know you'll never sell that Enforcer, but if you do...I got first dibs. :cool:

bac1023
02-01-2012, 19:46
I know you'll never sell that Enforcer, but if you do...I got first dibs. :cool:

Yeah, it will be a cold day in hell before that goes. ;)

hercster
02-03-2012, 03:01
I had a couple of wrinkles in my purchase but none was a quality issue. When I read their statement with respect to their standard ambi safety and warranty exclusion, I asked for a different design and that was installed on my gun and eight others ordered by my dealer at the same time. Any and all issues I with the transaction were taken care of easily and with no unpleasantness whatever. Everywhere I take the gun, it attracts other shooters who invariably are impressed. The owner of one of the clubs where I shoot told me he has never seen a better 1911 at that range.

It may have been been posted before but here is my Predator II:

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab203/hercster44/Predtwotone_012crop2.jpg

R0CKETMAN
02-03-2012, 04:24
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/047-2.jpg

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/050.jpg

IF, I were to own a NH, this would be the one all the way down to the finish..and a short solid and:rofl:

High polish avat it appears

awpk03s
02-03-2012, 16:13
I have two Nighthawk pistols, and I think both are amazing. Fit, finish, reliability, accuracy - all are superb.

Nighthawk Enforcer Recon:
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03304.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03305.jpg

Nighthawk Heinie Tactical Carry:
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03238.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03239.jpg

The guns are great. In my experience, the people making the guns are great. The people interacting with the customers - maybe not so much. I was taken care of properly on the one issue I had, but the communication side of things leaves a lot to be desired. But, at the end of the day - my pistols are fabulous and to me that's really what matters most. They combine the features and specs that I wanted, and the end results of those guns were perfect to me. If I go for another high zoot 1911, it will be either a Wilson or a Guncrafter though - one for something a little different, and two for a better customer experience from the people side of things.

glockarmor
02-04-2012, 14:04
I have 2, predator II and T3. One made in 08 and 1 in 09, both perform flawlessly.

Ruggles
02-04-2012, 16:07
I have two Nighthawk pistols, and I think both are amazing. Fit, finish, reliability, accuracy - all are superb.

Nighthawk Enforcer Recon:
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03304.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03305.jpg

Nighthawk Heinie Tactical Carry:
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03238.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/mba656/guns/DSC03239.jpg

The guns are great. In my experience, the people making the guns are great. The people interacting with the customers - maybe not so much. I was taken care of properly on the one issue I had, but the communication side of things leaves a lot to be desired. But, at the end of the day - my pistols are fabulous and to me that's really what matters most. They combine the features and specs that I wanted, and the end results of those guns were perfect to me. If I go for another high zoot 1911, it will be either a Wilson or a Guncrafter though - one for something a little different, and two for a better customer experience from the people side of things.

Very nice :) Very happy with Wilson so far but those NHs are very tempting. The Guncrafters looks nice but I am too much of a wimp for 15-20 LPI checkering! :shocked:

awpk03s
02-04-2012, 16:30
Very nice :) Very happy with Wilson so far but those NHs are very tempting. The Guncrafters looks nice but I am too much of a wimp for 15-20 LPI checkering! :shocked:


Thanks! Wilson makes GREAT pistols, and honestly I am VERY impressed with the latest Armor Tuff pistols I have seen - one of the reasons I went with Nighthawk originally, so I could get IonBond.

I would really like to handle a Guncrafter, I think the 15lpi is a little flattened, which to me would feel pretty sweet!

bac1023
02-04-2012, 17:31
The Guncrafters looks nice but I am too much of a wimp for 15-20 LPI checkering! :shocked:

The Guncrafter checkering isn't all that sharp. Its gives a very nice grip without feeling overly rough.

glock2740
02-04-2012, 17:50
The Guncrafter checkering isn't all that sharp. Its gives a very nice grip without feeling overly rough.
Ditto. :thumbsup:

crazycathed
03-13-2012, 19:24
i just bought 4 more, 2 of which are a matched pair.

TSAX
03-13-2012, 19:40
i just bought 4 more, 2 of which are a matched pair.

Pics please, Nighthawks are expense but fantastic guns. Their customer service is pretty good as well.





:50cal:

bac1023
03-13-2012, 20:13
i just bought 4 more, 2 of which are a matched pair.

Congrats! :cool:


:needspics:

GVFlyer
03-13-2012, 22:01
People here are pretty tired of hearing about my opinions of Nighthawk. I won't re-post my issues, but you can easily find mine (and others) with a little digging.
I wouldn't touch another Nighthawk. I would go for Wilson, Baer or Springfield Custom if I wanted another expensive 1911.
Personally, I don't think $3000 1911's should have Kimber parts in them, unless they are made by Kimber.

Back in December I was considering a Nighthawk as a Christmas present for myself. After reading about your experience with the company on this and another forum, I decided to have Heym build me a 30-06 instead.

SpringerTGO
03-14-2012, 15:03
Back in December I was considering a Nighthawk as a Christmas present for myself. After reading about your experience with the company on this and another forum, I decided to have Heym build me a 30-06 instead.

Good call.
Seriously, why have a 1911 built by a company that has as much negative feedback as Nighthawk, when there are so many other, established companies, who have stellar reputations for service?
You expect quality when you pay for it, so a true test of a "high end" company, is the service you get after the sale, should you need it.
In my case, Nighthawk was a giant FAIL.