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YtownGlock
02-01-2012, 23:42
I have a buddy who carries a Glock 19 as his primary ccw weapon and (I can't remember the name of the other gun) a subcompact 9mm on his ankle on occasion, he doesn't do it all the time though.

I currently have only a Glock 23 Gen4 and am contemplating getting a Glock 27 Gen4 and wearing it on my ankle as well.

Does anyone else carry two guns? I've seen a lot of the veteran youtube gun community channels talk about this subject and it seems some people do in fact carry a backup.

What are you thoughts and opinions for carrying a backup ccw weapon? Depending on what state you live in, are you allowed legally to carry more than one weapon/handgun concealed? etc etc etc.

xmanhockey7
02-01-2012, 23:54
Most states do not have a law regarding the number of guns you can carry. I know NM sets it at one concealed gun. Personally I thinking carry a BUG is a great idea. You never know what may go wrong with your primary. And having 2 guns that can accept the same mags (assuming you use at least a 13 rd G23 mag) you have a great amount of firepower. If I were you I'd have flush mags in each and all back up mags would be G22 15 rd mags.

JuneyBooney
02-01-2012, 23:55
I have carried firearms like that on occasion and it is smart to carry the same caliber. I know a trooper who carries two 27...one on each ankle and then his primary weapon. In reality most people will never use the back ups ever.

Bodyarmorguy
02-02-2012, 00:04
My normal routine is a Glock 22, 23 or Colt Gov't on my waist, backed up by a Glock 27 on my ankle if I am wearing long pants.

Many folks subscribe to back up guns, but most usually in the form of a .22, .32, .380 or the like. My particular thought on this subject is that if your primary gun goes down for whatever reason, your back up gun just became your primary gun. So.....if I wouldn't carry that .22, .32. 380 et al as a primary, why rely on it as back up? Just food for thought..

MinnesnowtaWild
02-02-2012, 00:25
Not my cup of tea at all. On duty, yes I will have a back up gun. As a citizen with a concealed carry I see no reason to carry a back up gun. I would rather just carry an extra mag or two.

mrsurfboard
02-02-2012, 01:35
Not my cup of tea at all. On duty, yes I will have a back up gun. As a citizen with a concealed carry I see no reason to carry a back up gun. I would rather just carry an extra mag or two.

Agreed!

Dalton Wayne
02-02-2012, 01:56
This is my everyday carry setup
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu192/Daltonlwayne/100_1895.jpg

WASR10
02-02-2012, 02:36
In my state you can only legally carry 3 specific guns. All at once or one at a time doesn't matter.

I generally carry a G23 gen 3, but sometimes a .38 snubbie. In theory the .38 could be a BUG to the .40, but I have always carried a reload instead.

YtownGlock
02-02-2012, 05:04
Not my cup of tea at all. On duty, yes I will have a back up gun. As a citizen with a concealed carry I see no reason to carry a back up gun. I would rather just carry an extra mag or two.

I ccw with 2 extra mags and have been doing so since I got my CHL. But I have to agree with a few other posts that it would be a good idea to have a backup if for whatever reason my primary weapon failed to perform.

JBL13
02-02-2012, 06:21
I usually carry a .38 LCR as backup in a De Santis Nemesis holster in a cargo pants/shorts pocket. The LCR is occasionally primary (with no other backup) when wardrobe considerations make that an easy option.

ca survivor
02-02-2012, 06:29
When I'm traveling by car, I have on a 642 on my ankle just for easy reach when siting down

maddy345
02-02-2012, 08:47
I carry a G23 Gen 4 in a TT Gunleather IWB holster with a G27 Gen 4 as BUG either in a Desantis Nemesis pocket holster or on my ankle in a Desantis Die Hard.

I don't always carry a BUG but if I go into Raleigh or Durham or I'm on the road I will.

dave27
02-02-2012, 09:19
Not for me. Personally, I think it tends to be a sign people are focusing way too much on something that is only a small part of personal security (CCW).

But, if it makes you more comfortable go for it, who am I to tell you what to carry. I already have too much crap on my belt/pockets. (Leatherman/light/2 pagers/phone/wallet/Glock 19) I usually don't even carry a spare mag. :wavey:

Donn57
02-02-2012, 09:20
Not my cup of tea at all. On duty, yes I will have a back up gun. As a citizen with a concealed carry I see no reason to carry a back up gun. I would rather just carry an extra mag or two.

Yeah, I get it. Loaded extra mags are heavy so you can always hit your attacker with one if your primary weapon is no longer an option for whatever reason.

JDMitchell
02-02-2012, 09:41
I have a renegade ankle holster for the G27/26/33 if you are interested.

Shameless plug over.

I like the comfort of my ankle holster but with my big legs I print in all my pants. I'll keep my G27 at the 4 o'clock and carry a BUG cross draw.

Donn57
02-02-2012, 09:48
Does anyone else carry two guns? I've seen a lot of the veteran youtube gun community channels talk about this subject and it seems some people do in fact carry a backup.


Yep, although I long ago gave up ankle carry as an option. If I can carry one gun on my waist, I can carry two. The two I carry are Colt six-shot .38 Special D frames.

9mmParabellum
02-02-2012, 10:13
I have a buddy who carries a Glock 19 as his primary ccw weapon and (I can't remember the name of the other gun) a subcompact 9mm on his ankle on occasion, he doesn't do it all the time though.

I currently have only a Glock 23 Gen4 and am contemplating getting a Glock 27 Gen4 and wearing it on my ankle as well.

Does anyone else carry two guns? I've seen a lot of the veteran youtube gun community channels talk about this subject and it seems some people do in fact carry a backup.

What are you thoughts and opinions for carrying a backup ccw weapon? Depending on what state you live in, are you allowed legally to carry more than one weapon/handgun concealed? etc etc etc.

I carry a .38spl

Magicmanmb
02-02-2012, 10:29
On duty I have a .357 on my ankle. Off duty an extra mag, a 1 cell 120 lumen light in my pocket & a zip tie cuff in my badge wallet just in case. Wife has her CCW, 3 speed load strips for her J frame or an extra mag depending on which she carries & a small flashlight.

Quarter Tank
02-02-2012, 10:36
I just started carrying an extra mag. i havent begun to venture into a whole 'nother gun yet. when so, I'll pick me up a G36 for it.

harrygunner
02-02-2012, 13:06
'mark1616 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/member.php?u=182201)' I should mention the "three gun limit" is the policy of some California counties, not a state limit written as law. I've had as many as six guns on my permit.

I add a J-frame in an ankle holster when driving long distances. It's less about having a backup and more about having a gun I can reach easily while seated.

up1911fan
02-02-2012, 15:00
Generally carry a Ruger LCR in my left front pocket. LCP in the summer. That's in addition to the Glock on my right hip. I do carry a spare mag for the Glock as well.

MoneyMaker
02-02-2012, 15:06
i hate to carry 1 gun let alone what some you guys carry,i swear some think they are some urban commandos,i do mean this to the poster but really isnt 1 gun enough?Are you extremley trained in the 1st gun?Trained to have defensive and offensive skills?I see guys post pics of carrying 2 guns,4 or 5 mags,2 or 3 knives,some pepper spray,baton plus all there keys,lighters,cigs,cell phones,Come on enough is enough!!

OMEGA5
02-02-2012, 15:15
Most states do not have a law regarding the number of guns you can carry. I know NM sets it at one concealed gun. Personally I thinking carry a BUG is a great idea. You never know what may go wrong with your primary.

:agree:
Anything mechanical can and will malfunction or break.
Dano :harley:

YtownGlock
02-02-2012, 16:27
i hate to carry 1 gun let alone what some you guys carry,i swear some think they are some urban commandos,i do mean this to the poster but really isnt 1 gun enough?Are you extremley trained in the 1st gun?Trained to have defensive and offensive skills?I see guys post pics of carrying 2 guns,4 or 5 mags,2 or 3 knives,some pepper spray,baton plus all there keys,lighters,cigs,cell phones,Come on enough is enough!!

One gun isn't enough, especially in a situation when it fails to function, I mean, what am I going to do, throw my gun at the guy and while he is distracted charge him? As for being trained, I went through a Law Enforcement academy recently and had extensive training on the Glock 17; my carry gun is the Glock 23 Gen4 w/ a TLR-1s and 2 spare G23 mags, not much difference except for caliber, magazine capacity, and recoil. I go to the range AT LEAST 4 times a month. I was also trained in Defensive Tactics. This is going to sound funny, but I carry a 2foot strand of 550 paracord as a DEFENSE weapon (no I don't use it to strangle someone). I also carry a Gerber Icon Tanto folder as well.

Depending on where I am going and so forth, I will take with me a 21" ASP baton and a Mark IV can of Sabre Red 10% OC Spray (I am certified in both).

Now, some people may think THAT is excessive. Some people might think that sounds to be just enough, and others will argue that it isn't enough.

(Check out HellZZArmy's EDC videos on youtube. the man lives in Hawaii and doesn't travel without at least one gun and two knives minimum along with a comtech stinger)

Do I think I am an urban commando? No. I am just a citizen who goes about his life everyday while being prepared both physically, mentally, and equipped.

Call me paranoid or crazy but it doesn't hurt to take the extra precaution and steps to be safe.

CTfam
02-02-2012, 18:23
A large folder is my BUG and I'm fine with that. Everyone has to decide what they are comfortable with. I roll with a full size Glock and a spare mag and hope that can handle most situations.

PS- Ankle carry sucks.

MinnesnowtaWild
02-02-2012, 19:20
Yeah, I get it. Loaded extra mags are heavy so you can always hit your attacker with one if your primary weapon is no longer an option for whatever reason.

Yeah and I would love to have an AR15 and a Mini-14 on me and a .50 cal machine gun turret on top of my car, but there is a point where it's just too much. It's JUST MY OPINION, but carrying two guns as a civilian is too much. Now you have not one, but two (or maybe more?) guns that you need to keep in control if you have to use other force like fists. How are you going to protect someone from taking the gun on your hip, the knife in your pocket, and the revolver on your ankle all at the same time? Are you just going to shoot them since you're worried they will take one of your many weapons? That probably won't hold up in a court of law in front of your peers. Good luck trying to convince a jury that carrying multiple pistols on you every day is a reasonable idea.

Again, just my opinion. What if your backup gun also fails? What if the backup to the backup fails? When do you draw the line? I would rather be somewhat comfortable then to have a pistol on my belt, a pistol strapped to my ankle, and a bunch of other weapons in my pockets or on my belt.

devildog24
02-02-2012, 19:40
:agree:
Anything mechanical can and will malfunction or break.
Dano :harley:
this is why I carry a bug. Usally a pair of Glocks.

SJ 40
02-02-2012, 21:08
My favorite BUG to my G22 is my other G 22. SJ 40

Spiffums
02-03-2012, 07:43
Not my cup of tea at all. On duty, yes I will have a back up gun. As a citizen with a concealed carry I see no reason to carry a back up gun. I would rather just carry an extra mag or two.

The reason would be the same reason you carry a BUG on duty unless it is just something they make you do.

Bill Lumberg
02-03-2012, 10:17
Kind of comical for permit carry, but if you're legal and do it safely, why not?I have a buddy who carries a Glock 19 as his primary ccw weapon and (I can't remember the name of the other gun) a subcompact 9mm on his ankle on occasion, he doesn't do it all the time though.

I currently have only a Glock 23 Gen4 and am contemplating getting a Glock 27 Gen4 and wearing it on my ankle as well.

Does anyone else carry two guns? I've seen a lot of the veteran youtube gun community channels talk about this subject and it seems some people do in fact carry a backup.

What are you thoughts and opinions for carrying a backup ccw weapon? Depending on what state you live in, are you allowed legally to carry more than one weapon/handgun concealed? etc etc etc.

collim1
02-03-2012, 12:00
I carry BUG on duty. Off-duty CCW I carry a reload, but no BUG.

A BUG is never a bad thing IMO. A G23 and G27 is a pretty stout loadout for CCW.

A jframe in a pocket and one on the ankle would be a good carry option.

mrsurfboard
02-03-2012, 12:43
i hate to carry 1 gun let alone what some you guys carry,i swear some think they are some urban commandos,i do mean this to the poster but really isnt 1 gun enough?Are you extremley trained in the 1st gun?Trained to have defensive and offensive skills?I see guys post pics of carrying 2 guns,4 or 5 mags,2 or 3 knives,some pepper spray,baton plus all there keys,lighters,cigs,cell phones,Come on enough is enough!!

Agreed! When I see posts like that, I can't help but laugh to myself. These people are either full of BS or belong to class of people we in LE refer to as "wanabes" or smackers. Hell I don't even know many cops that carry all that crap. In NJ, we don't have carry, so the closest equivalent would be all the volunteer Fire and EMS guys, that wear all the patches, carry belt packs full of tools and have hundreds of blue lights all over their cars. I carry one gun and sometimes an extra mag, that's it. I'm not going to war.

RoundBrown
02-03-2012, 13:07
Do i carry a bug no, I dont even carry extra ammo. Statistically speaking I wont fire more than three shots. With those three shots, hits or not the theat is either neutralized or suppressed either way ive given myself time to remove myself from the area.Police officers have the obligation of staying so it makes sense for them to have a BUG. I think to many people fantisize about being in long drawn out gun fights.

drobs
02-03-2012, 13:42
Carry a G19 & a back up mag. Unless I know I'm going somewhere shady... St. Louis for example.

Maybe toss the AK or shotgun in the truck.