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sigav8r
02-02-2012, 23:26
If so, at what range? Anyone use their glock for hog hunting? Got invited on a hunt, but don't have a rifle. But I DO have a G23 I could use! ;).

Tonyyy
02-02-2012, 23:32
If its a big hog 200 plus pounds, better be close.... Small one say 80 pounds 70 feet no problem..

I use a 686 .357 magnum as a sidearm and hunt with a 30-06 or an AR... But I take hogs at 70 to 100 yards...

Javelin
02-02-2012, 23:37
You really need a rifle or a high power pistol. Their bone structure around the vitals is damn near armor quality engineering.

Taterhead
02-02-2012, 23:38
Probably better to go with a 200 gr WFNGC hardcast bullet. Double Tap sells loaded ammo and also sells the bullets as components if you are a reloader. They work better, of course, in 10mm. But they should have sufficient penetration at 40 S&W velocities.

http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_26&products_id=210&osCsid=48dvsmafi08414rc17kmtvmvb5

fredj338
02-02-2012, 23:54
IMO, point blank would not be too close for a G23 & the 40. Max distance IMO is maybe 75ft & that would be perfect shot placement. So unless you can shoot 3" groups or better @ 75ft, you need to be a lot closer & the only JHP I would consider is the 180gr XTP running hard..

unit1069
02-02-2012, 23:54
I'd want a rifle, but yes, a .40S&W with the right ammo ought to be able to bring down the average American boar.

I went hunting them a couple of times without success but I know they can cover a lot of ground fast so be prepared if you're on foot.

sigav8r
02-03-2012, 00:25
Thanks guys!!! I think it'd be fun to hunt them with a pistol, but need to make sure it'll be a humane way and I would also be safe. Can't do the 3" grouping but hopefully can still place my shot within a reasonable kill zone at 75 feet! Also gonna be going for a smaller one as I want to cut it up to eat rather than a trophy or anything like that!

Ak.Hiker
02-03-2012, 00:30
The Winchester 180 grain PDX 1 is a tough bonded HP. Worth a look. If it was me I would carry the Double Tap 200 grain FMJ. The Speer 180 grain Lawman TMJ or the Buffalo Bore 180 grain FMJ would be options as well.

Tiro Fijo
02-03-2012, 02:00
IMO, point blank would not be too close for a G23 & the 40...


Yes it will be......when the razor sharp tusks start tearing into him. :supergrin:

G19aps
02-03-2012, 09:02
Can't do the 3" grouping but hopefully can still place my shot within a reasonable kill zone at 75 feet!

Hoping won't make you a more accurate shot. At least that hasn't worked for me yet. If you're not accurate enough to hit the kill zone (whatever size it may be), you shouldn't be using that particular weapon.

4Baldy
02-03-2012, 09:18
Just more food for the coyotes. How's your tracking skills? Most of the time the animal just gets wounded and runs off and dies in the woods/swamp. Get the right tool for the job and learn how to hunt the right way.:upeyes:

collim1
02-03-2012, 11:29
The pigs in my area, yes. Some of the genetically mutated monsters I have seen on TV, no.

I would use a Hardcast solid lead wadcutter. Buffalo Bore and Double Tap both make a heavy duty .40 load.

The real challenge is going to be making a good shot on a pig with a SD style pistol. I would want a hunting style revolver with a longer sight radius.

A gut shot pig is not going to be happy!

Quarter Tank
02-03-2012, 11:48
FMJ would be better

dkf
02-03-2012, 11:56
Got a shotgun or slug gun? Rifled or sabot slugs in a 12ga with a G23 on the hip with hardcast or FMJ would be good.

MARINE DIVISION TWO
02-03-2012, 12:16
Taken several hogs with my Glock 22,average shot 50 yards.

fredj338
02-03-2012, 14:28
Thanks guys!!! I think it'd be fun to hunt them with a pistol, but need to make sure it'll be a humane way and I would also be safe. Can't do the 3" grouping but hopefully can still place my shot within a reasonable kill zone at 75 feet! Also gonna be going for a smaller one as I want to cut it up to eat rather than a trophy or anything like that!

Well, 3" groups on the range mean about 6" in the field for most. The kill zone on a hog isn't much bigger than that, mybe 8" max.

CanyonMan
02-03-2012, 16:50
At one time there were over 400 hogs on the ranch. Domestic, yes, but these 400 pound porkers (especially the wild ones) are not 40 S&W targets.

Folks guess a lot (and mean well) but some times have never done what they are giving advice about. Get a 44mag, a 12 ga with a slug, or a 30-30 or 30-06. Even with the 44mag, Hard Cast bullets are the ticket for these big bores/sows. No need filling the thing with 40 S&W rounds to bring him down when you can more effectively do it with a better choice of caliber/gun.

http://i869.photobucket.com/albums/ab256/yrag5951/stuff%20to%20share/IMG_0106-2.jpg


Unless your ON TOP of a porker this big, you will truly empty a mag into one like this at NON point blank ranges with that Small service caliber.

Just jumping in with some sound advice amigo !



Good Luck.







CM

PersonOfInterest
02-04-2012, 00:51
Ive head shot a 200lb Wild Pig with my 9mm before had no problems doing so, ive also used the .40 to take a smaller one on the run using 180gn JHP's had no issues there either - it can be done but as others have said anything over 200lbs id be looking for a long gun or wheel gun in .44 or bigger.

Ak.Hiker
02-05-2012, 00:14
If all I had was a 40 I would carry heavy FMJ loads mentioned on an earlier post. Both of the last 2 posts are from guys with quite a bit of field experience. Years ago my first big bore Magnum was a 4 5/8 inch 41 Magnum. Not very expensive and with a good 250 grain hardcast bullet gives similar performance to Elmer Keith's heavy 44 Special loads that he liked. A 4 inch double action or a 4 5/8 inch 44 Magum is still a top choice. Anyone that likes to spend time in the outdoors with big critters should consider saving up for a 44 Magnum when the budget allows.

PersonOfInterest
02-05-2012, 00:26
If all I had was a 40 I would carry heavy FMJ loads mentioned on an earlier post. Both of the last 2 posts are from guys with quite a bit of field experience. Years ago my first big bore Magnum was a 4 5/8 inch 41 Magnum. Not very expensive and with a good 250 grain hardcast bullet gives similar performance to Elmer Keith's heavy 44 Special loads that he liked. A 4 inch double action or a 4 5/8 inch 44 Magum is still a top choice. Anyone that likes to spend time in the outdoors with big critters should consider saving up for a 44 Magnum when the budget allows.
Damn shame the .41 Mag went the way of the Dinosaur - great cartridge, got offered a Marlin 1894C chambered in it years ago - kicking myself for not buying it.

Javelin
02-05-2012, 00:53
Damn shame the .41 Mag went the way of the Dinosaur - great cartridge, got offered a Marlin 1894C chambered in it years ago - kicking myself for not buying it.

You can grab a 10mm auto obviously to help replace that .41 Mag requirement. :wavey:

Zombie Steve
02-05-2012, 01:44
If so, at what range? Anyone use their glock for hog hunting? Got invited on a hunt, but don't have a rifle. But I DO have a G23 I could use! ;).

Sounds like a fantastic excuse to buy a rifle. Hunting season is over, pawn shops are full.

kmrcstintn
02-05-2012, 03:03
IF THE .40 S&W HANDGUN IS ALL YOU HAVE AVAILABLE FOR 'HANDGUN HUNTING' then opt for the heaviest BONDED hollowpoint you can get...something like the Winchester PDX1 or Speer Gold Dot; Hornady XTP would be a good choice also as it is designed to penetrate more, expand moderately, with a good cannelure to hold the jacket to the core

07hemi4me
02-05-2012, 07:27
I have taken many Hogs with a .40 bullet, but it is in front of a 10mm case... :tongueout:

unit1069
02-05-2012, 09:44
The few times I went with a friend to his north-central Arkansas farm to hunt boar he carried an SKS/S&W .357 Magnum and I had a 12 gauge loaded with slugs/.357sig.

We never saw any pigs but my friend's uncle was tooling down the road in his 4X4 and saw one about 100 yards away. He was carrying a single-shot bolt action rifle in .222 Hornet and dropped the hog in its tracks. From what the uncle said it sounds like the .222 Hornet is a real effective rifle caliber.

PrecisionRifleman
02-05-2012, 16:28
Not the best choice nor an ethical choice unless your a seasoned hunter and happen to have an opportunity to go from your long gun to your side arm when a very close up shot presents itself and you know that you can make the head shot. Honestly I'm going to bet that the people you go hunting hogs with will frown upon you trying use a G23, and there's a good chance that you could be kicked off the land and never invited back. At least that's how it would go with people who take hunting seriously and approach it with an ethical mind set.

On the other hand if you have a reputation as a very good hunter and you are looking to test your skills, then yes it can be done (and may not be frowned upon). But you would have to pick and chose your shots, and have the sense to know when and when not to take the shot. I don't believe a new hunter would be able to demonstrate that kind of self control, and I can see a hog being riddled with bullets before going down, or worse running of into the bush to suffer a long agonizing death (goes against hunting ethics).