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ZO6Vettever
02-06-2012, 07:37
Hope this is in the right place. Long time shooter but new to Glock and 45ACP. What's got the best ballistics?

8th ID
02-06-2012, 07:45
The best?? I have no idea, but a longer barrel will give the best velocity. Consider if you plan to carry the pistol or not and how that will play into the size of Glock you get. There are many videos on youtube done by tnoutdoors9 on testing self-defense ammo. He does have some on the .45 acp.

As soon as I get more rounds through my G36, I will be carrying it loaded with Speer Gold Dot 230 gr HP's for defense ammo.

ronin.45
02-06-2012, 07:48
You will get many different specific loads from people. Others will disagree and say that brand x is the best. In the end just pick a top quality, modern hollow point and it's hard to go wrong.

Some options;
Speer Gold Dot
Cor-Bon DPX
Cor-Bon Pow'R Ball
Win PDX/ranger
Hornady Critical Defense
Hornady TAP
Remington Golden Saber
Etc.

Whether you should go light or heavy is a whole other argument.

DannyR
02-06-2012, 07:48
Any contemporary HP is good. Choose name brands like Federal Premium, Speer Gold Dot and Winchester.

FiremanMike
02-06-2012, 07:48
I like my 230 grain Winchester bonded rangers..

SGT_Calle
02-06-2012, 08:09
In the end just pick a top quality, modern hollow point and it's hard to go wrong.

I think this is the best answer.
I keep Speer Gold Dots (230 gr.) and Critical Defense (185 gr.) on hand for my .45 mostly because I found them for reasonable prices and the cycle well. I also have about 200 hand-rolled hornady XTPs, mostly because I found the bullets at a good price. To each his own.

Agent6-3/8
02-06-2012, 08:12
I'm packing Federal 230g HST in my .45's but its getting hard to find from what I hear.Winchester Ranger, Winchester PDX1, Speer Gold Dots, Remington Golder Sabers and Hornady TAP are all other excellent options. With the exception of the Hornady TAP I'd recommend staying with the 230g variety. There are several companies loading the excellent solid copper Barnes TAC-XP bullet. They offer excellent performance, but they're pretty pricey.

I recommend staying away from lightweight (with the exception of the solid copper Barnes) and frangible bullets.

repo4sale
02-06-2012, 08:34
lb
fps is momentum in units pound(mass)-feet-per-second.
ftlbs is energy in units foot-pounts(force).
cu is volume of wound cavity, in cubic inches.

Sorted by.. kinetic energy
1. momentum
2. (bare gelatin) penetration depth
3. (bare gelatin) wound volume
4. (clothed gelatin) penetration depth
5. (clothed gelatin) wound volume
6. Average wound volume for clothed and bare gelatin
Penetration over 30 inches in negatively sanctioned, and penetration over 20 inches is folded down to 20 inches.
Explanation of fields, example= 9x19 Win Ranger +P+ |115@1320, 21.7 mv, 444 E|BR 9.6", 0.53", 2.11cu|CL 10.2", 0.65", 3.37cu|avg 2.74, 3.89 re, 0.70
1. 9x19 - caliber
2. Win Ranger +P+ - the name of the load
3. 115@1320 - bullet mass in grains @ muzzle velocity
4. 21.7 mv - bullet momentum in lb*fps
5. 444 E - muzzle energy in ftlbs
6. BR - what follows is the data for bare gelatin
1. 9.6" inches of penetration
2. 0.53", final expanded diameter of bullet
3. 2.11 cu, approximation of wound volume. (this does not take into account the expansion profile as a function of depth, but it should be roughly proportionate to actual wound volume)
7. CL - what follows is the data for clothed gelatin
same fields as the bare gelatin, as defined above
8. avg 2.74 - Average wound volume, clothed and bare gelatin
9. 3.89 re - Free Recoil Energy, assuming a 1.88 lb pistol
10. 0.70 - Average would volume per unit Free Recoil Energy. This is a measure of "bang for buck", and is discussed in the text below the data table.

45ACP CCI/Speer GD |185@1041, 27.5 mv, 445 E|BR 11.9", 0.68", 4.34cu|CL 14.8", 0.68", 5.36cu|avg 4.85, 6.26 re, 0.77
45ACP Rem G.S. |185@1037, 27.4 mv, 441 E|BR 14.4", 0.72", 5.86cu|CL 15.9", 0.68", 5.79cu|avg 5.83, 6.21 re, 0.94
45ACP Rem G.S. +P |185@1046, 27.6 mv, 449 E|BR 10.1", 0.87", 6.00cu|CL 9.5", 0.81", 4.90cu|avg 5.45, 6.32 re, 0.86
45ACP Fed Hi-Shok |185@ 874, 23.1 mv, 313 E|BR 11.7", 0.74", 5.03cu|CL 19.8", 0.61", 5.79cu|avg 5.41, 4.41 re, 1.23
45ACP Win Silvertip |185@ 951, 25.1 mv, 371 E|BR 10.7", 0.78", 5.11cu|CL 10.9", 0.73", 4.56cu|avg 4.84, 5.22 re, 0.93
45ACP Fed Hi-Shok |185@ 953, 25.2 mv, 373 E|BR 13.3", 0.63", 4.15cu|CL 12.4", 0.74", 5.33cu|avg 4.74, 5.24 re, 0.90
45ACP Rem |185@ 903, 23.9 mv, 335 E|BR 16.2", 0.70", 6.23cu|CL 24.6", 0.55", 5.83cu|avg 5.49, 4.71 re, 1.17
45ACP CCI/Speer GD +P |200@1062, 30.3 mv, 500 E|BR 11.7", 0.75", 5.17cu|CL 18.8", 0.55", 4.47cu|avg 4.82, 7.61 re, 0.63
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 956, 31.4 mv, 466 E|BR 13.8", 0.72", 5.64cu|CL 13.6", 0.74", 5.83cu|avg 5.73, 8.16 re, 0.70
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 878, 28.8 mv, 393 E|BR 16.6", 0.66", 5.66cu|CL 20.2", 0.55", 4.80cu|avg 5.21, 6.88 re, 0.76
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 858, 28.2 mv, 375 E|BR 13.7", 0.71", 5.42cu|CL 16.4", 0.66", 5.59cu|avg 5.51, 6.57 re, 0.84
45ACP Win |230@ 802, 26.4 mv, 328 E|BR 17.9", 0.60", 5.06cu|CL 24.0", 0.51", 4.90cu|avg 4.57, 5.74 re, 0.80
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 854, 28.1 mv, 372 E|BR 14.9", 0.71", 5.90cu|CL 15.4", 0.64", 4.97cu|avg 5.43, 6.51 re, 0.83
45ACP Rem G.S. |230@ 885, 29.1 mv, 399 E|BR 14.1", 0.76", 6.37cu|CL 16.6", 0.69", 6.19cu|avg 6.28, 6.99 re, 0.90
45ACP Win Ranger SXT |230@ 819, 26.9 mv, 342 E|BR 13.2", 0.73", 5.55cu|CL 17.9", 0.63", 5.56cu|avg 5.55, 5.99 re, 0.93
45ACP CCI/Speer GD |230@ 896, 29.4 mv, 409 E|BR 16.0", 0.69", 5.98cu|CL 18.9", 0.59", 5.17cu|avg 5.58, 7.17 re, 0.78
45ACP PMC/Eldorado SF |230@ 853, 28.0 mv, 371 E|BR 13.9", 0.67", 4.90cu|CL 22.6", 0.45", 3.59cu|avg 4.04, 6.49 re, 0.62
45ACP Rem G.S. |230@ 871, 28.6 mv, 387 E|BR 15.0", 0.71", 5.94cu|CL 18.9", 0.73", 7.89cu|avg 6.91, 6.77 re, 1.02
45ACP CCI/Speer GD |230@ 847, 27.8 mv, 366 E|BR 13.2", 0.74", 5.66cu|CL 14.3", 0.70", 5.50cu|avg 5.58, 6.40 re, 0.87
45ACP Fed Hi-Shok |230@ 860, 28.3 mv, 377 E|BR 13.8", 0.80", 6.96cu|CL 17.4", 0.67", 6.13cu|avg 6.55, 6.60 re, 0.99
45ACP Win. B.T. |230@ 886, 29.1 mv, 400 E|BR 11.9", 0.77", 5.56cu|CL 13.9", 0.74", 6.00cu|avg 5.78, 7.01 re, 0.83

Cineski
02-06-2012, 08:43
Federal HST, CorBon DPX, Winchester Ranger T's, Speer Gold Dot.

Jokerpro
02-06-2012, 08:48
Winchester PDX1 230gr. You can pick them up at Walmart for like $25.

Eric2340
02-06-2012, 08:51
200 gr. +P Gold Dot for me.


The Hydra-shock round (230 gr. ?) is pretty famous too.

Golden Sabers aren't bad either, I'd stay away from the 185 gr. +P ones though (more kick, more flash).

Bruce M
02-06-2012, 08:51
Hope this is in the right place. Long time shooter but new to Glock and 45ACP. What's got the best ballistics?


My guess is that any of the current loads such as Winchester Ranger, Federal HST or Speer Gold Dot will be fine. That said there is a certain level of luck that applies to most any shooting - if you have ever heard of someone being shot and walking around or someone shot and a surgeon saying that if the bullet had been a couple millimeters in a different direction it would have been fatal, there is some of that cannot be explained by much other than luck, as opposed to 47 more feet per second.

SCSU74
02-06-2012, 09:07
Whatever you decide make sure it is 230g and a bonded bullet I.e. speed gold dots, less chance of separation through barriers like glass.


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RetailNinjitsu
02-06-2012, 09:19
I prefer standard pressure 230gr Speer Gold Dots.

Patriot III
02-06-2012, 09:21
CORBON PowRBall or CORBON 165 Grain HP

When I handloaded, I liked a 230 truncated cone (flat nose) total metal jacket loaded to the limit (1000 fps). A load like that has a tendancy lower blood pressure very very fast.

Bren
02-06-2012, 09:23
I think the .45 in my truck has ball in it right now. The difference between that and Goold Doots doesn't impress me enough to worry about it.

Beanie-Bean
02-06-2012, 09:29
I've got magazines of Speer Gold Dot LE 230 gr. and Hornady Critical Defense (185 gr. I believe...) for both G21s and my G30SF.

Those rounds feed and cycle just fine in all of them, and I use the longer G21 magazines as backup when I carry the G30SF.

4GLOCKER
02-06-2012, 09:31
Winchester PDX1 230gr. You can pick them up at Walmart for like $25.

Good choice. They also have the PDX1 in 9mm & .40 S&W.

LawScholar
02-06-2012, 09:38
I'll put another vote in for standard pressure Speer Gold Dot 230-grain

triggerjerk
02-06-2012, 09:42
Federal HST.

xXGearheadXx
02-06-2012, 09:45
Federal HSTs are a pretty good bet too, one nice thing is that they come in 50rd boxes that run about $25/box, instead of your normally priced $25/20rd boxes a lot of the PD rounds come in...therefore, you can afford to shoot a bit of it and ensure it will work reliably in your firearm.

cowboy1964
02-06-2012, 11:22
Never EVER buy ammo in 20 round boxes! If we stick together maybe they'll all go away!

pitt1011
02-06-2012, 11:28
I like Speer Gold Dots and Winchester Rangers, both in 230 grn.

kashdaddy
02-06-2012, 14:21
i like the corbon dpx and the federal hst

SmithietheFox
02-06-2012, 14:37
I've always been partial to 230-grain Remington Golden Sabers in my LW Commander and G-21

eracer
02-06-2012, 14:42
I think the .45 in my truck has ball in it right now. The difference between that and Goold Doots doesn't impress me enough to worry about it.Same here. My pocket .45 with its 3.24" barrel has ball in it. The newer JHP designed for short barrels (like the Pow'R Ball) are interesting to me.

Quarter Tank
02-06-2012, 14:46
PDX1 in 230gr and Ranger T in 230gr

when I can get my hands on it HST 230gr.

the old stand-by is Hydra-Shok in 230gr

Never Nervous
02-06-2012, 15:00
lb
fps is momentum in units pound(mass)-feet-per-second.
ftlbs is energy in units foot-pounts(force).
cu is volume of wound cavity, in cubic inches.

Sorted by.. kinetic energy
1. momentum
2. (bare gelatin) penetration depth
3. (bare gelatin) wound volume
4. (clothed gelatin) penetration depth
5. (clothed gelatin) wound volume
6. Average wound volume for clothed and bare gelatin
Penetration over 30 inches in negatively sanctioned, and penetration over 20 inches is folded down to 20 inches.
Explanation of fields, example= 9x19 Win Ranger +P+ |115@1320, 21.7 mv, 444 E|BR 9.6", 0.53", 2.11cu|CL 10.2", 0.65", 3.37cu|avg 2.74, 3.89 re, 0.70
1. 9x19 - caliber
2. Win Ranger +P+ - the name of the load
3. 115@1320 - bullet mass in grains @ muzzle velocity
4. 21.7 mv - bullet momentum in lb*fps
5. 444 E - muzzle energy in ftlbs
6. BR - what follows is the data for bare gelatin
1. 9.6" inches of penetration
2. 0.53", final expanded diameter of bullet
3. 2.11 cu, approximation of wound volume. (this does not take into account the expansion profile as a function of depth, but it should be roughly proportionate to actual wound volume)
7. CL - what follows is the data for clothed gelatin
same fields as the bare gelatin, as defined above
8. avg 2.74 - Average wound volume, clothed and bare gelatin
9. 3.89 re - Free Recoil Energy, assuming a 1.88 lb pistol
10. 0.70 - Average would volume per unit Free Recoil Energy. This is a measure of "bang for buck", and is discussed in the text below the data table.

45ACP CCI/Speer GD |185@1041, 27.5 mv, 445 E|BR 11.9", 0.68", 4.34cu|CL 14.8", 0.68", 5.36cu|avg 4.85, 6.26 re, 0.77
45ACP Rem G.S. |185@1037, 27.4 mv, 441 E|BR 14.4", 0.72", 5.86cu|CL 15.9", 0.68", 5.79cu|avg 5.83, 6.21 re, 0.94
45ACP Rem G.S. +P |185@1046, 27.6 mv, 449 E|BR 10.1", 0.87", 6.00cu|CL 9.5", 0.81", 4.90cu|avg 5.45, 6.32 re, 0.86
45ACP Fed Hi-Shok |185@ 874, 23.1 mv, 313 E|BR 11.7", 0.74", 5.03cu|CL 19.8", 0.61", 5.79cu|avg 5.41, 4.41 re, 1.23
45ACP Win Silvertip |185@ 951, 25.1 mv, 371 E|BR 10.7", 0.78", 5.11cu|CL 10.9", 0.73", 4.56cu|avg 4.84, 5.22 re, 0.93
45ACP Fed Hi-Shok |185@ 953, 25.2 mv, 373 E|BR 13.3", 0.63", 4.15cu|CL 12.4", 0.74", 5.33cu|avg 4.74, 5.24 re, 0.90
45ACP Rem |185@ 903, 23.9 mv, 335 E|BR 16.2", 0.70", 6.23cu|CL 24.6", 0.55", 5.83cu|avg 5.49, 4.71 re, 1.17
45ACP CCI/Speer GD +P |200@1062, 30.3 mv, 500 E|BR 11.7", 0.75", 5.17cu|CL 18.8", 0.55", 4.47cu|avg 4.82, 7.61 re, 0.63
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 956, 31.4 mv, 466 E|BR 13.8", 0.72", 5.64cu|CL 13.6", 0.74", 5.83cu|avg 5.73, 8.16 re, 0.70
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 878, 28.8 mv, 393 E|BR 16.6", 0.66", 5.66cu|CL 20.2", 0.55", 4.80cu|avg 5.21, 6.88 re, 0.76
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 858, 28.2 mv, 375 E|BR 13.7", 0.71", 5.42cu|CL 16.4", 0.66", 5.59cu|avg 5.51, 6.57 re, 0.84
45ACP Win |230@ 802, 26.4 mv, 328 E|BR 17.9", 0.60", 5.06cu|CL 24.0", 0.51", 4.90cu|avg 4.57, 5.74 re, 0.80
45ACP Fed HydraShok |230@ 854, 28.1 mv, 372 E|BR 14.9", 0.71", 5.90cu|CL 15.4", 0.64", 4.97cu|avg 5.43, 6.51 re, 0.83
45ACP Rem G.S. |230@ 885, 29.1 mv, 399 E|BR 14.1", 0.76", 6.37cu|CL 16.6", 0.69", 6.19cu|avg 6.28, 6.99 re, 0.90
45ACP Win Ranger SXT |230@ 819, 26.9 mv, 342 E|BR 13.2", 0.73", 5.55cu|CL 17.9", 0.63", 5.56cu|avg 5.55, 5.99 re, 0.93
45ACP CCI/Speer GD |230@ 896, 29.4 mv, 409 E|BR 16.0", 0.69", 5.98cu|CL 18.9", 0.59", 5.17cu|avg 5.58, 7.17 re, 0.78
45ACP PMC/Eldorado SF |230@ 853, 28.0 mv, 371 E|BR 13.9", 0.67", 4.90cu|CL 22.6", 0.45", 3.59cu|avg 4.04, 6.49 re, 0.62
45ACP Rem G.S. |230@ 871, 28.6 mv, 387 E|BR 15.0", 0.71", 5.94cu|CL 18.9", 0.73", 7.89cu|avg 6.91, 6.77 re, 1.02
45ACP CCI/Speer GD |230@ 847, 27.8 mv, 366 E|BR 13.2", 0.74", 5.66cu|CL 14.3", 0.70", 5.50cu|avg 5.58, 6.40 re, 0.87
45ACP Fed Hi-Shok |230@ 860, 28.3 mv, 377 E|BR 13.8", 0.80", 6.96cu|CL 17.4", 0.67", 6.13cu|avg 6.55, 6.60 re, 0.99
45ACP Win. B.T. |230@ 886, 29.1 mv, 400 E|BR 11.9", 0.77", 5.56cu|CL 13.9", 0.74", 6.00cu|avg 5.78, 7.01 re, 0.83

Thanks repo4sale, that sums it up very nicely. The numbers make sense now.:thumbsup:

NN

ETA: PDX1 230 gr in G30sf and G21sf

Zombie Steve
02-06-2012, 15:22
I think the .45 in my truck has ball in it right now. The difference between that and Goold Doots doesn't impress me enough to worry about it.

Agreed. I cast a 230 grain tc / flat nose and load them for about 5 cents each. Get to shoot a LOT of them for the $25 it costs to buy a box of 20 premium hollow points.

I know most guys won't go that route, but consider that a 230 grain fmj worked just fine for guys long before the invention of hollow points.

Zombie Steve
02-06-2012, 15:23
...definitely not crazy about Pow 'r' Ball...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x214/sbecht/Pow-r-ball.jpg

http://www.thegunzone.com/powrball.html

tsmo1066
02-06-2012, 15:28
Any premium JHP from the major manufacturers (Speer, Remington, Federal, etc.) will serve you well. Test a few out and see which one your pistol shoots best.

RMTactical
02-06-2012, 19:50
I like HST's and Gold Dots, but it's hard to go wrong with any 230 +P hollow point...

MoneyMaker
02-06-2012, 20:10
230 fmj works for me

LawScholar
02-06-2012, 20:19
My other favorites were HST and PDX1, in fact the 180-grain HST was my .40 carry round for about two years, but I made the decision to standardize all my guns to Speer Gold Dot because the round performs very impressively regardless of caliber. In .380 it's the 90-grain GDHP, 9x19 the 147-grain, .40 the 180-grain, and .45 the 230-grain.

It's a heavily tested, thoroughly modern round, and I'm happy with my decision.

MinnesnowtaWild
02-06-2012, 22:32
Never EVER buy ammo in 20 round boxes! If we stick together maybe they'll all go away!

But if everyone did that, it would be even harder than it already is for me to get 50 round boxes.

barth
02-06-2012, 23:00
Hope this is in the right place. Long time shooter but new to Glock and 45ACP. What's got the best ballistics?

Winchester Ranger T-Series 230 gr +P
Federal HST 230 gr +P
Speer Duty GDHP 200 gr +P

Tiro Fijo
02-06-2012, 23:20
...definitely not crazy about Pow 'r' Ball...

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x214/sbecht/Pow-r-ball.jpg

http://www.thegunzone.com/powrball.html


The "Gun Zone" is hardly the bastion of objectivity. :upeyes: Anything Dean Speir writes about I immediately turn the BS filter to high. Go over to the Stopping Power Forum and there are TONS of Pow'RBall tests and I have NEVER seen one fail the 4 layer denim/ballistic gel test. They don't always make the vaunted 12" but that has never bothered me.

Bigpoppie50
02-07-2012, 00:29
Federal HST.Yep, running 230grain HST +P here.

NEOH212
02-07-2012, 01:37
I'll put another vote in for standard pressure Speer Gold Dot 230-grain

Same here!

A added plus is it has the same recoil characteristics as my target ammo and shoots to point of aim in all my guns.

This is one of the best defensive rounds on the market today period. :wavey:

chasbo00
02-07-2012, 10:47
From: http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm

.45ACP
Barnes XPB/TAC-XP 185gr HP loaded by:
Cor-Bon (DPX45185)
Taurus (TCB45ACP185HP)
Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP (RA45T)
Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP +P (RA45TP)
Federal Tactical 230gr JHP (LE45T1)
Federal HST 230gr +P JHP (P45HST1)
Federal HST 230gr JHP (P45HST2)
Speer Gold Dot 230 gr JHP (23966)

HexHead
02-07-2012, 11:04
I either carry 230gr +P Hornady TAP, or 230gr standard pressure Rem. Golden Saber.

The owners manual for my Nighthawk states they don't guarantee reliability with Speer ammo.

Roy D. Mercer
02-13-2012, 15:49
230 fmj works for me

+1 230gr. FMJ has been effectively killing people for over 100 years now. Proven.

tooexcessive
02-14-2012, 15:38
Personally I like the 230 gr. Speer Gold dots. Just me though.

CanyonMan
02-14-2012, 16:17
I've always carried 230gr FMJ in my M1911's. BUT I do use and like WW 230gr PDX1, 230gr Hornady XTP TAP.




CM

cowboy1964
02-14-2012, 16:36
Really getting tired of the FMJ ignorance.

Watch from 7:30.

Massad Ayoob - Shoot To Live - 3/8 - YouTube

Massad Ayoob - Shoot To Live - 4/8 - YouTube

cowboy1964
02-14-2012, 16:40
I think the .45 in my truck has ball in it right now. The difference between that and Goold Doots doesn't impress me enough to worry about it.

An expanded 9mm has more than 50% more frontal area than a .45 FMJ and won't go through two people and into a third. It absolutely blows my mind that some people think 26" of penetration with a .451" hole is as good (or better) than 14" of penetration with a .8" hole. The whole reason they are using the .45 in the first place is usually for "the bigger bullet". Mind boggling.

Ask yourself this: if you ever get shot with a handgun would you rather it be with an FMJ or a JHP?

JudgeRoyBean
02-14-2012, 16:48
When carrying my 1911 I stoke it with Winchester Super-X 185 GR. hollow points. I have never had a problem with them. I do have some Black Talons but don't know if you can still buy these or not? Used them all the time when on the police force.

CanyonMan
02-14-2012, 20:27
cowboy1964;18579203]Really getting tired of the FMJ ignorance.

Watch from 7:30.

Massad Ayoob - Shoot To Live - 3/8 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC7NrupS_gA)

Massad Ayoob - Shoot To Live - 4/8 - YouTube



Nothing ignorant anout it Hoss. :whistling:


Some of the "ignorance" is from folks that have never had to use them, (45acp 230gr FMJ's) or never spent almost a life time shooting them. (in a 45acp that is, I would not use the FMJ for SD 'in a town' [U]in any other caliber)

This 45acp 230gr OP scare is what is ignorant. Any JHP that clogs to the max can OP. BTW, I did say I also use JHP's. ;)


Edited to say.. This is NOT directed to you amigo. I just don't agree with a 'bunch" of the goofy things Mass said on this video thats all...




Stay safe man.








CM
Passin through.

Zombie Steve
02-14-2012, 21:13
The "Gun Zone" is hardly the bastion of objectivity. :upeyes: Anything Dean Speir writes about I immediately turn the BS filter to high. Go over to the Stopping Power Forum and there are TONS of Pow'RBall tests and I have NEVER seen one fail the 4 layer denim/ballistic gel test. They don't always make the vaunted 12" but that has never bothered me.

You suppose that photo's bs?

BulldawgGlock
02-14-2012, 21:21
Speer Gold Dot or Winchester PDX1

ZO6Vettever
02-20-2012, 14:50
Thanks to all who replied! I settled on Speer Gold Dot 230 grain standard pressure. If called for they should get the job done. I also got a G21 mag and "filler" for the G30. Like puttin' a bad suit on an already ugly guy but it's sure a lot of firepower should I ever get lost on MLK Blvd!
Thanks again folks!
Joe

LawScholar
02-20-2012, 15:48
Thanks to all who replied! I settled on Speer Gold Dot 230 grain standard pressure. If called for they should get the job done. I also got a G21 mag and "filler" for the G30. Like puttin' a bad suit on an already ugly guy but it's sure a lot of firepower should I ever get lost on MLK Blvd!
Thanks again folks!
Joe

Bravo, great choice! Run a few magazines through to test for feeding in your gun and you're set!

NEOH212
02-20-2012, 18:59
Bravo, great choice! Run a few magazines through to test for feeding in your gun and you're set!

+1 on that! :thumbsup:

gator378
02-21-2012, 14:39
Hope this is in the right place. Long time shooter but new to Glock and 45ACP. What's got the best ballistics?

Take a look at Hornady's 230 grain +P at 950 fps. Part # 9096 This is their XTP round.


There are a lot of good 45 loads out there at all prices

deeHKman
02-21-2012, 15:15
My HK45c shoot's everything i tried real well so far. But the 200gr+P GoldDot's seem's to be the best for me and the gun. GoldDot anything should do a great job...

MoneyMaker
02-23-2012, 05:43
Happy with 230 fmj out of the 45,always dependable