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pokersamurai
02-06-2012, 18:29
I've recently been in the market for a semi auto 7.62/.308 rifle. After much research I have it narrowed down to 2 rifles. The FN FNAR 20" heavy barrel and the Springfield M1A Loaded. I've found both rifles locally for around $1400 which seems to be a pretty good deal. However, in the most recent CDNN's flyer they have the FNs for $1000. I know the M14/M1As are a truly battle tested rifle, and from what I understand the FNAR uses the BAR operating system which has also served our country well. At this point I would just like to hear some of your opinions, preferably by someone who owns one or both of the rifles. How are their accuracy and reliability? Have you had any problems? Are they worth the money?

Thanks you in advance.



http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg478/pokersamurai/FNM0137mb.png
FN FNAR 20" Heavy Barrel



http://i543.photobucket.com/albums/gg478/pokersamurai/Springfield_Armory_M1A_Loaded_MA9226_Alarge.jpg
Springfield M1A Loaded

sfguard
02-06-2012, 18:52
Sent you a PM

M&P15T
02-06-2012, 19:13
Not to sound like a girl about it, as aesthetics are never my main concern, but the FN is one butt ugly rifle. Looks like it fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. It's like a Chiappa Rhino with out the classy good looks. Like Rosanne Barr after a rough night of meth and hookers. Like Abe Bagoda in a leotard and spandex. Like Hillary Clinton after mauling an all-you-can-eat dookie buffet.

Dawolf
02-06-2012, 19:41
I have shot the FN. Very nice. Used the M1 back in the day. Would get the M1 personally, due to familiarity.

jwhite75
02-06-2012, 19:45
The M1 is proven and will not do you wrong I would go with a 16" version, for weight.

But given that I would have not overlook that FNAR I am sure it is a shooter.

MrMurphy
02-07-2012, 03:07
The FNAR uses the SPORTING BAR, not the Browning Automatic Rifle (machinegun) lineage.

Of the two......i'd pick neither, I'd get a SCAR 17 or an OBR and accept the price difference because they're accurate and they work.

Jack19
02-07-2012, 03:36
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Andrewsky
02-07-2012, 06:19
You never truly narrow it down. You will always question your 7.62 battle rifle choice.

eracer
02-07-2012, 06:24
Not to sound like a girl about it, as aesthetics are never my main concern, but the FN is one butt ugly rifle. Looks like it fell from the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. It's like a Chiappa Rhino with out the classy good looks. Like Rosanne Barr after a rough night of meth and hookers. Like Abe Bagoda in a leotard and spandex. Like Hillary Clinton after mauling an all-you-can-eat dookie buffet.Thank God you didn't say Abe Vigoda, cuz' that would have made me stab my eyes with knitting needles...:supergrin:

OP, I say go for the FN. It's easier to outfit with a good optic, and AFAIK they still know how to made a gun work right.

rhino673
02-07-2012, 06:53
You never truly narrow it down. You will always question your 7.62 battle rifle choice.
Ain't that the truth!
I have bounced between deciding on a M1A, M1 Garand, FN FAL, HK, AR platform to just about everything else out there.

BTW, I'm back to the m1a. Now I can't decide which model of the M1A!!:crying:

triggerjerk
02-07-2012, 06:59
SCAR 17S or XCRM perhaps?

http://home.comcast.net/~gunspotz/Rifles/scar17s/8124.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f173/tootalldean2/SHOT%20show%202012/DSC_4775.jpg

Both cost more than your initial choices by a wide margin however.

I'm hoping to grab an XCRM soon.

byf43
02-07-2012, 07:06
M1A Scout/Squad!!!!!!


You know you want it. Get it!

svtpwnz
02-07-2012, 07:24
Honestly, I say neither. I just pre ordered a Colt SP901 308. Not sure of ETA because it has been pushed back for some time but it looks like March/April as of now. Price is expected to be sub $2000 level which is a deal to me considering what you get.

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/honkonthree/SP901.jpg

Rancher
02-07-2012, 09:07
FNAR magazines run like $60 at least, that would be a factor for me since I would want like 10!

Rancher

Bob Hafler
02-07-2012, 09:27
I have a (1955)Springfield M1 Garand and also a (2011) Ruger Mini 14 Ranch rifle. I'm also a big fan of there mechanics and how they work, so I guess you'd know what I'd prefer. It would have to have a wooden stock though to fit in with the other two.:supergrin:

HexHead
02-07-2012, 09:55
I considered the same choice. I thought the comments I found on the FNAR's field stripping for cleaning to be a negative for the rifle. Supposedly it's a real PITA. It may be a fine police duty sniper rifle, which is what it was designed to be, but it's no MBR.

M&P15T
02-07-2012, 10:24
Honestly, I say neither. I just pre ordered a Colt SP901 308. Not sure of ETA because it has been pushed back for some time but it looks like March/April as of now. Price is expected to be sub $2000 level which is a deal to me considering what you get.

http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/honkonthree/SP901.jpg

Just so you're not shocked when you get it, you're getting on LE901, not an SP901.

owtlaw
02-07-2012, 10:27
I have personally shot the XCRM. That will be my next rifle. Way ahead of everyone else IMHO.

svtpwnz
02-07-2012, 10:58
Just so you're not shocked when you get it, you're getting on LE901, not an SP901.

To my best knowledge, it will be an SP901. I am not a LEO and no longer in the military.

davsco
02-07-2012, 11:04
check out ar-10 style also. nice thing about these, tons of aftermarket parts. i have and like dpms lr308, 24" barrel, i added a geissele trigger, sub moa out to 600 yds.

Billy10mm
02-07-2012, 11:09
http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=48

madmike3668
02-07-2012, 11:12
LMT ar-10 is a little more expensive but is an amazing rifle, but you can't go wrong with the M1A standard length or shorty.

M&P15T
02-07-2012, 11:27
To my best knowledge, it will be an SP901. I am not a LEO and no longer in the military.

Colt used the SP moniker for a year or so, now they're back to using LE like they have for the last several years. It has nothing to do with you, just how Colt lables their rifles. Look at Colt's current on-line catalog for confirmation.

D3S3RT_P3NGU1N
02-07-2012, 11:31
M1A Scout/Squad!!!!!!


You know you want it. Get it!


+1 on this, great rifles and a little handier than the standard M1A

svtpwnz
02-07-2012, 11:34
Colt used the SP moniker for a year or so, now they're back to using LE like they have for the last several years. It has nothing to do with you, just how Colt lables their rifles. Look at Colt's current on-line catalog for confirmation.

I was unaware of this information and thanks. I wonder why they are back to using the LE marks for these. That will be fine with me as it will match my other Colt LE. :cool:

Travclem
02-07-2012, 11:37
I say LaRue OBR 7.62. My best friend has an FNAR and it is far from a tack driver. It averages 1.5" groups at 100yds with GMM. The OBR is a reliable, sub MOA .308.

Edit: both wear Leupold 6.5-20 MK4s.

I can't speak on that particular M1 but I have the Super Match and it is really accurate and REALLY heavy.

WayaX
02-07-2012, 15:42
The FNAR uses the SPORTING BAR, not the Browning Automatic Rifle (machinegun) lineage.

Of the two......i'd pick neither, I'd get a SCAR 17 or an OBR and accept the price difference because they're accurate and they work.

SCAR 17S has my vote. Mine quickly became my favorite rifle. Light, accurate, reliable, and ergonomical - no other gun offers all of these in the same package. It is almost like having a 7.62 in a 5.56 form factor.

pokersamurai
02-07-2012, 16:20
SCAR 17S or XCRM perhaps?

http://home.comcast.net/~gunspotz/Rifles/scar17s/8124.jpg


You guys are torturing me with your SCAR 17 talk. I originally wanted to purchase the SCAR, however, none of my local shops have them and the ones I've found online go for $3000+ delivered. Also from what my dealer told me the .308 SCAR magazines are harder to find than the Holy Grail. But you just cant argue with the SCAR's performance and style.:supergrin:

CDR_Glock
02-07-2012, 16:22
I'm tired or looking for a 17S so I am having a Christensen Arms 308 made for me, instead.


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pag23
02-07-2012, 17:11
Look into Larue or LWRC

PlasticGuy
02-07-2012, 17:50
You can get the SCAR 17, or you can get something that isn't as good.

I have owned all of the common 7.62x51 battle rifles at one time or another. My SCAR 17s is the top of the food chain.

jrs93accord
02-07-2012, 18:14
Springfield Armory M1A Loaded by all means.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/DSC00448.jpg

It is one helluva an accurate rifle.

WayaX
02-07-2012, 18:32
You guys are torturing me with your SCAR 17 talk. I originally wanted to purchase the SCAR, however, none of my local shops have them and the ones I've found online go for $3000+ delivered. Also from what my dealer told me the .308 SCAR magazines are harder to find than the Holy Grail. But you just cant argue with the SCAR's performance and style.:supergrin:

My 17S was 2734 total (for everything). I bought it 3 weeks ago. I since easily obtained 5 spare magazines, while they cost more than retail, I didn't pay an excessive amount for them. They are out there if you look hard enough.

jrs93accord
02-07-2012, 18:36
Here is something that is totally off the board.

This is my 1993 KMC (now KAC) SR-25 Match/Mk11 Mod 0

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011A/004-8.jpg

With the 24" Obermeyer barrel, this easily shoots .5MOA @100 yds. It is, by far, the most accurate rifle I have.

ArmoryDoc
02-07-2012, 18:51
Between the FN and the M1A, I would highly urge you to get the full sized M1A. Classic lines. Easy take down, maintenance is a breeze, new military mags are commonly available for much cheaper than the FN.

Just like jrs93accord said, one helluva accurate rifle. :)

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