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Shadyscott69
02-07-2012, 16:42
If you had $1500-$2000 to spend on an AR, what would you be looking for?

RMTactical
02-07-2012, 16:44
what purpose will this AR15 serve?

GotFour
02-07-2012, 16:49
If I had $2000 to spend on AR's I would build 3 myself......a simple k.i.s.s 5.56 house carbine, a 6.8 SPC Hunter and a 20" 5.56 varmiter. Buying one just makes you want to have more..... :supergrin:

427
02-07-2012, 17:02
For $2k, I would buy complete lower then choose whatever mutiple uppers suited my needs.

Shadyscott69
02-07-2012, 17:53
what purpose will this AR15 serve?

General purposes. Perhaps 3 gun.

WoodenPlank
02-07-2012, 18:11
General purposes. Perhaps 3 gun.

Need more details, as that still leaves a lot of options open. I'd suggest reposting this in the Black Rifle forum, as you will get more replies from people that know ARs than you will in GFF.

MrVvrroomm
02-07-2012, 19:14
If I was spending your money, Daniel Defense, Aimpoint, ammo.

That should pretty much take care of your $2K.

deguelo
02-07-2012, 19:58
for $2000, the lwrc dea model....... regards-- deguelo

The Habit
02-07-2012, 20:23
Eh, I'd build a couple with that cash but if had to buy a new, complete AR, I'd like to add a Colt LE6920, just because. It's well under your budget figures.

glock2740
02-07-2012, 20:42
DD or RRA.

engineer151515
02-07-2012, 20:45
Set aside about $480 for some bulk ammo, PMAGS, a decent sling and a couple ammo cans.

tim12232
02-07-2012, 20:52
La Rue, LWRC, Daniel Defense, or go Colt and mod it yourself!

banjobob
02-07-2012, 20:59
My la Rue 556 shoots 1/2 to 1 moa all day long, and closer to 1/2. Easily the accurate ar I've ever shot.

Taphius
02-07-2012, 21:04
Cold 6940 ammo and mags

JaPes
02-07-2012, 21:05
:popcorn:

Javelin
02-07-2012, 21:12
I'd advise you to get a Colt 6920 from G&R tactical for $965 and an Aimpoint + Pmags and a training class.

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=6920

Jack23
02-07-2012, 21:21
I'd advise you to get a Colt 6920 from G&R tactical for $965 and an Aimpoint + Pmags and a training class.

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=6920

I have this gun and it is all I need. I'd spend the rest on mags and ammo.

Javelin
02-07-2012, 21:43
I have this gun and it is all I need. I'd spend the rest on mags and ammo.

Shh someone will come on here telling the OP to buy a S&W Sportical or something soon enough and all the reasons why paying more than $565 is a waste of money.

:whistling:

madmike3668
02-07-2012, 21:49
Bravo Company Mid 16 and an aimpoint.

JaPes
02-07-2012, 21:53
Shh someone will come on here telling the OP to buy a S&W Sportical or something soon enough and all the reasons why paying more than $565 is a waste of money.

:whistling:


You should buy a S&W M&P 15-Sport. You don't need to spend $2K on a rifle because a S&W M&P 15-Sport is as good as any over priced $2K rifle. :psycho:

J/K. Your high budget limit of $2K + your stated intent to compete in 3-gun matches indicates to me that the capabilities of the S&W M&P 15-Sport are not congruent to your needs.

For a bloke like me who plinks away at a range, it's just fine.

cyphertext
02-07-2012, 22:03
Shh someone will come on here telling the OP to buy a S&W Sportical or something soon enough and all the reasons why paying more than $565 is a waste of money.

:whistling:

I doubt that, since he did not ask about a good value for under $800. If he wants to spend $1500 - $2000, he can get just about any AR he wants.

Curious as to why you recommend the Colt though, when you said yourself that you prefer Noveske, have 4 yourself, and wouldn't have it any other way?

Javelin
02-07-2012, 22:14
I doubt that, since he did not ask about a good value for under $800. If he wants to spend $1500 - $2000, he can get just about any AR he wants.

Curious as to why you recommend the Colt though, when you said yourself that you prefer Noveske, have 4 yourself, and wouldn't have it any other way?

Well friend I don't just own Noveske's. They are my favorite by far and quality is second to none. To be honest I own almost a dozen ARs in various flavors though I am planning on thinning out the herd here soon and probably only keeping those that are SBRs.

However, I recommend the Colt as a good value @ $965. Those Noveske rifles I posted in the other thread start at $2300+tax stamps and CLIII Dealer fees... very much worth it to me but for someone looking for a solid rifle for a bargain you can't really beat a simple Colt rifle.

Moose73
02-07-2012, 22:19
LMT-(Piston)

Javelin
02-07-2012, 22:27
You should buy a S&W M&P 15-Sport. You don't need to spend $2K on a rifle because a S&W M&P 15-Sport is as good as any over priced $2K rifle. :psycho:

J/K. Your high budget limit of $2K + your stated intent to compete in 3-gun matches indicates to me that the capabilities of the S&W M&P 15-Sport are not congruent to your needs.

For a bloke like me who plinks away at a range, it's just fine.

Hey JaPes. You will upgrade later down the road. For many years I was on the search for the perfect AR for so long and bought so many always chasing that next "bargain". I kind of wish I hadn't always been trying to save a buck and just gone ahead and listened to others and bought once and cried once. I was listening to the "good enough" crowd and it cost me - but I learned a valuable lesson. No matter what you say people gotta learn by their own mistakes sometimes.

:wavey:

stopatrain
02-07-2012, 22:31
BCM 16" Lightweight Middy

Cole125
02-07-2012, 22:59
If I was spending your money, Daniel Defense, Aimpoint, ammo.

That should pretty much take care of your $2K.

This. DD w/Aimpoint, spend the rest on ammo!!!

JaPes
02-08-2012, 06:21
Hey JaPes. You will upgrade later down the road. For many years I was on the search for the perfect AR for so long and bought so many always chasing that next "bargain". I kind of wish I hadn't always been trying to save a buck and just gone ahead and listened to others and bought once and cried once. I was listening to the "good enough" crowd and it cost me - but I learned a valuable lesson. No matter what you say people gotta learn by their own mistakes sometimes.

:wavey:

Hi Javelin.

For me, the 15-Sport is the gateway drug to the AR addiction.

The only way I will have any way to put AR advice into meaningful context to me, is to get some trigger time & some experience.

I have no doubt that the 15-Sport will be the last AR. I recently assembled a lower & topped it off to experience it.

I need a frame of personal experience on which to judge and evaluate the difference in AR construction, both subtle & gross differences.

While you may be brusque in your replies, your advice has not fallen on deaf ears. My next AR will be one in a price greater than the Colt 690-something, because I am learning.

I do value that you intent is to keep my overall AR experience costs lower over the long run.

It's similar to someone asking for advice on whether or not to buy a Hi-Point pistol.

Thanks!

camelotkid
02-08-2012, 06:52
http://rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=442

Rock River Arms LARPDS the best of both worlds between an AK and an AR

WarEagle32
02-08-2012, 12:21
I agree on the Daniel Defense with an Aimpoint! Then ammo and mags.

vtbluegrass
02-08-2012, 12:30
Stag has a 3-gun set-up that looks pretty slick. I just finished a 2 grand AR yesterday and almost all my money was in the barrel and scope. Grendel for hunting and paper.

Bren
02-08-2012, 12:36
If you had $1500-$2000 to spend on an AR, what would you be looking for?

If I had to spend that much, I guess I'd buy 2 S&W M&P's.

I've probably owned 6-8 AR's in my life and never spent that much on any of them.

boomhower
02-08-2012, 13:33
I'm a self admitted DD whore but for the budget and mission the LaRue Predatar would be my pick.


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xXGearheadXx
02-08-2012, 13:45
Have you thought about investing some of that into tools for building one? Drop some of that on the tools and you can build whatever setup you want, and swap them out in a matter of minutes should you run into something on your build you don't like. ARs are incredibly simple to build...and you could get all your tools AND have the money to peice together a pretty kick *** AR for that budget.

jrs93accord
02-08-2012, 13:56
LMT Defender

Shadyscott69
02-08-2012, 17:00
If I had to spend that much, I guess I'd buy 2 S&W M&P's.

I've probably owned 6-8 AR's in my life and never spent that much on any of them.

That is kinda how I am leaning. I just sold two AR's (Lower end) and I was thinking about buying one good one. I found a Stag LW for less than $800 that I really like. The DD's that I looked at were 1700+ and don't seem worth it to me for my purposes. Looked at a Baer, too heavy.

Ruggles
02-08-2012, 17:04
If I had to spend that much, I guess I'd buy 2 S&W M&P's.

I've probably owned 6-8 AR's in my life and never spent that much on any of them.

Good plan :)

I would also think $800-$900 for a 16" and then the same for a 20" would be a good call.

WoodenPlank
02-08-2012, 17:42
That is kinda how I am leaning. I just sold two AR's (Lower end) and I was thinking about buying one good one. I found a Stag LW for less than $800 that I really like. The DD's that I looked at were 1700+ and don't seem worth it to me for my purposes. Looked at a Baer, too heavy.

DD offers plenty of rifles for significantly less than $1700.

Shadyscott69
02-08-2012, 18:10
DD offers plenty of rifles for significantly less than $1700.


I am sure they do, I just couldn't put my hands on anything less. What would you recommend from DD?

WoodenPlank
02-08-2012, 18:30
I am sure they do, I just couldn't put my hands on anything less. What would you recommend from DD?

Depends purely on personal preference. Personally, I'm partial to extended rails, mid weight barrels, and folding front/rear sights with a quality optic. if it was me, I would be partial to the DDM4V5 mid-length, if I had to pick exclusively from their complete rifles.

cphilip
02-08-2012, 21:17
Ive got a nice early Bushmaster A2/M4 for sale in the classifieds if you looking for KISS and mil spec Chrome lined stuff for less than half that money.

pleaforwar
02-08-2012, 22:33
A few of my recommendations:
This BCM Upper (w/quality lower like LMT)-
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-SS410-16-Mid-Length-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-mid16%20ss410%20vtrx13.htm
I recommend this upper because of the ~100 BCM rifles I have seen at demanding courses I have yet to see one experience a complex (IE needs to be taken off the line) malfunction. I can't even recall a simple malfunction with one of these rifles, but I wouldn't be surprised if it has happened. BCM has a reputation of quality and customer service and this upper would meet your needs. The stainless 1/8 barrel combined with the lightweight VTAC TRX rail is great for 3-gunning and is good for defensive purposes too. The only downfall is you have to wait for them to be in stock again, you need to get a BCG and CH, and you need to buy quickly.


This Addax Tactical Upper (w/quality lower)-
http://www.addaxtactical.com/store/pc/ADDAX-RECON-EVO-16-MID-LENGTH-5-56-UPPER-RECEIVER-ASSEMBLY-166p5534.htm

I have personal experience with two Addax Rifles and I have worked with them in the past. The owner of Addax is dedicated to the satisfaction of his customers and I have seen firsthand the quality of Addax rifles. This upper is great because it has a stainless 1/8 twist barrel, a good rail system, and its a great deal.

The Larue PredatAR-
http://www.laruetactical.com/18%E2%80%9D-larue-tactical-predatar-556
I don't have as much experience with the Larue PredatAR, but I have witnessed many very happy owners of the OBR rifles and have witnessed very few malfunctions. The 18" barrel is not the best for home defense applications, but it will fulfill the application if needed. Mark Larue is fiercely loyal to his customers, so you don't have to worry about warranty issues.

There are several options for optics, but I recommend a 1-4x Trijicon Accupoint for your needs. It's a quality optic, doesn't cost as much as other options, and many people swear by them (I have owned one in the past and regret selling it).
http://www.laruetactical.com/trijicon-accupoint-1-4x24-30mm-riflescope-german-4-crosshair-w-larue-tactical-lt-104-30

These rifles are not necessarily the best picks for three-gunning (for that I would go JP/Noveske/Larue with NightForce or similar optic), but they meet your parameters and will perform well for you when you need them to. Good luck with your pick!

daddysnapmuffins
02-09-2012, 02:35
Lmt l8 mrp.

Bren
02-09-2012, 04:26
One thing to keep in mind, OP, an AR is pretty much an AR and many of the super-ninja rifles recommended here at $1,500-2,000 each are made in the same factories as the cheaper rifles and you are paying extra for a well-advertised company name and some bolt on accessories. Most of these companies make few, if any, of the parts they put on their rifles. Go to the source and they are cheaper and if you can't bolt on your own parts on an AR, you may not be ready to own one.

series1811
02-09-2012, 10:06
Shh someone will come on here telling the OP to buy a S&W Sportical or something soon enough and all the reasons why paying more than $565 is a waste of money.

:whistling:

I'll say something that will piss a few people off. You are better off with a $565 AR and $1000 of training, than you are with a $1565 AR and no training.

You don't find many people who think that buying a $2000 tool set instantly makes someone into a mechanic. But, for some reason, there are a lot of people who think buying a $2000 rifle turns someone into a gunfighter.