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Ironbar
02-08-2012, 13:27
I am so NOT a fan of these new-fangled, overblown, quad-rail, Swiss Army Knife AR builds. I think they look positively silly.

I love the clean lines of the A1 with the one piece butt stock and triangle fore grip. Can these still be had anywhere?

http://www.megpro.com/ar/15/A1.jpg

TxGun
02-08-2012, 14:12
The triangular handguards are getting harder to find, but the plain-jane A1 rifle configuration (either complete rifles, or uppers) with standard round handguards is not uncommon.

Here are some triangular handguards:

http://www.keepshooting.com/m16-triangular-handguards.html

m2hmghb
02-08-2012, 14:50
CDNN had some

Hines57
02-08-2012, 15:00
I paid somebody a stupid amount of money for a Franken gun back during the ban. It has an A1 upper with some aftermarket barrel screwed in to it, so I am thinking about building it out as an A1. Were they known as an SP1 in that configuration?

banger
02-08-2012, 15:01
Tex...

It's not simply the hand guards.

It is also the 1/12 twist pencil weight barrel, the A-1 upper receiver, the old style "bird cage" flash suppressor, along with the origional length butt stock.

The A-1 rifles are without a doubt my favorite version, very lively and easy to hit with.

Generally, a great all around rifle.

Ironbar
02-08-2012, 16:04
My knowledge of the AR platform couldn't even fill a pamphlet. I know nothing about building one from parts. I'd prefer to buy a complete rifle if at all possible.

raven11
02-08-2012, 16:11
My knowledge of the AR platform couldn't even fill a pamphlet. I know nothing about building one from parts. I'd prefer to buy a complete rifle if at all possible.

your choices are a used colt SP-01

or a Century Arms C15A1 Sporter Rifle

MadMonkey
02-08-2012, 16:18
Even though I love Tacticool rifles, I'm still seriously considering building an A1-style rifle in the near future. I think they're still nice and great for training with irons.

mixflip
02-08-2012, 16:30
An A1 is on my list of must haves also.

Check out my father in laws sweet Colt SP1 he bought brand new in the 70's.
Colt SP1 slabside AR15 from 1975 - YouTube

4 glocks
02-08-2012, 16:58
I have a 1983 Colt SP1. Never had 1 jam ever. I have seen SP1 at gun shows for $1700.

jrs93accord
02-08-2012, 17:07
I built this one a few years ago.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/DSC00396.jpg

The USGI M16A1 upper was bought from Ohio Ordnance when they had some for a short while. The M16 BCG, USGI A1 buttstock, and USGI A1 pistol grip were bought from SARCO, Inc. The lower is a DPMS. I am planning to replace it with one from NDS eventually. The sling is a USGI M14 nylon. This is a clone of the M16A1 I used back in the late '70s.

Building one these days could be very difficult. It would take a lot of work to track down all the right parts you would need.

The Century Arms Sporter is the closest thing you will find these days. My brother recently picked up one from a shop in Macon, GA. We looked at it when I was visiting him back in December. It still had the M16 BCG in it. The only thing that was not right was the pistol grip. Someone had put an A2 grip on it. The shop gave him an A1 grip for it. He finally got to shoot it a few weeks ago. He absolutely loves it.

RMTactical
02-08-2012, 17:57
Who doesnt like or at least appreciate the old school A1 look? I can remember watching Tour of Duty as a kid and thinking the M16A1 was a pretty sweet looking rifle. I don't own one like that, but I still like them.

thisaway
02-09-2012, 15:10
I built this one a few years ago.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/DSC00396.jpg


The Century Arms Sporter is the closest thing you will find these days. My brother recently picked up one from a shop in Macon, GA. We looked at it when I was visiting him back in December. It still had the M16 BCG in it. The only thing that was not right was the pistol grip. Someone had put an A2 grip on it. The shop gave him an A1 grip for it. He finally got to shoot it a few weeks ago. He absolutely loves it.

I read in a magazine article that Century builds them with A2 grips because A1 grips are no longer available.

jrs93accord
02-09-2012, 15:33
I read in a magazine article that Century builds them with A2 grips because A1 grips are no longer available.

I just looked at a picture of the Century AR15 Sporter A1 and you are absolutely correct. SARCO Inc does offer an original USGI A1 pistol grip (used) for $17.95.

Magelk
02-09-2012, 17:54
DPMS does the A-1 with the wrong handguards. I suppose you can switch them.

http://www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=4710&cat=1889

LA_357SIG
02-10-2012, 00:58
How about a compromise?
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k252/chrisq_01/SU1BRzA2NjAuanBn.jpg
A1/C7 upper
A2 rear sight arperture, gov't profile barrel and stock
Modern handguard and grip and flash hider

The A1 barrel is too light for me and 1/12 doesn't offer much variety in ammo selection.

Mayhem like Me
02-10-2012, 07:29
If you build one I suggest doing a 1x7 pencil barrel so you can shoot anything through it.

I have a few of the old 1x12 barrels around they really only like 55 grain and lighter . I got some really cool keyholing at 20 yards with 64 grain tactical bonded loads through them...

Landric
02-13-2012, 07:10
I hate the triangle handguards, but otherwise the A1 has a lot of character. I am planning a frankenbuild using an A1 upper (or perhaps a M16 upper if I can find one-no forward assist or deflector) with an A2 rear sight aperture, a 1/7 twist government profile or M4 profile barrel, and Magpul furniture. I also don't have much use for quad rails or a coffee maker mounted on my AR, but there are some modern things do like.

I don't think anyone is offering a true A1 rifle anymore, though there are similar options out there. Please avoid anything built by Century.