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hsprincipal
02-12-2012, 18:11
I'm thinking about buying my first AR in .450 Bushmaster. Anyone out there have one or have any thoughts on this round?

mickdundie
02-12-2012, 18:19
I've never heard of it...so I looked it up:

http://www.bushmaster.com/community-hunting-stories-field.asp

http://www.google.com/imgres?q=.450+bushmaster&hl=en&sa=X&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&rlz=1I7ADFA_enUS440&biw=1280&bih=603&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=B2m6H--oE1xAgM:&imgrefurl=http://www.midwayusa.com/product/979384/hornady-custom-ammunition-450-bushmaster-250-grain-super-shock-tip-sst-flex-tip-expanding-box-of-20&docid=XHHaFWbs4TYAvM&imgurl=http://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/large/979/979384.jpg&w=500&h=375&ei=Wlc4T6eXA4jo2gWr0ejxAQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=531&sig=109187261807673588253&page=1&tbnh=120&tbnw=156&start=0&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0&tx=103&ty=82

Looks wicked!! "THE THUMPER"

Go for it!!

Mick:thumbsup:

hsprincipal
02-12-2012, 18:38
My local dealer offered me the carbine flattop for $1200 out the door.

Syclone538
02-13-2012, 00:28
If I was looking for something like that, I would decide between .450 Bushmaster, .458 Socom, or .50 Beowulf almost exclusively on ammo availability.

NEOH212
02-13-2012, 01:51
I know I want one!

Javelin
02-13-2012, 02:07
They look really neat. I just can't justify another bullet to stock up on :supergrin:

ronin.45
02-13-2012, 08:38
If I was looking for something like that, I would decide between .450 Bushmaster, .458 Socom, or .50 Beowulf almost exclusively on ammo availability.

This^

The beowulf and Socom might be more common and cheaper with similar results.

Syclone538
02-13-2012, 08:53
Or look for a used .44 deerfield, but a 4 round mag might defeat the purpose, depending on intended use.

eforney
02-13-2012, 09:34
I have the 458 socom and love it. I bought it as a hog hunting gun and let's just say it does the job. If you reload I would say this is the one for you. There are plenty of bullet choices.

Tony Rumore
02-13-2012, 09:50
The ShrubMaster marketing dorks conveniently forgot that Jeff Cooper's "Thumper" requirement included a 20 round magazine.

Brazos
02-13-2012, 13:36
I like the idea of this caliber or a 458 SOCOM. My 3 AR-15's are all in 223/5.56. While they are very accurate and fun to shoot they really aren't good for much. A 450/458 would make a really good deer/hog gun out to 100+ yards.

NG VI
02-13-2012, 17:16
Biggest single difference between the two is the Bushmaster uses the slightly smaller diameter .45 pistol bullets, while the SOCOM uses .458" rifle bullets.

I don't know if they have any significant differences in case capacity, but if you already reload for one variety of .45 and not the other, maybe that would help sway you one way or another.

aptrpl6
02-13-2012, 20:47
I've got the 16 inch upper. I used it last year for deer and managed to hit one at 200 yards. It flopped over like it was hit by a freight train! You're basically limited to the Hornady load, but it's plentiful and it gets the job done. I get my .450 ammo from Palmetto State Armory. I've heard that Sig 556 mags will reliably feed up to 12 .450 rounds without modification. I use the 5 round mag since my rifle is mainly for hunting. BTW, 200 yards is the .450's maximum useful range in most cases due to dropoff(although it could probably be used for further shots in the right hands).

Jade Falcon
02-13-2012, 21:41
2,200 fps, with 2,600+ ft-lbs of Muzzle Energy?! Jesus! And I thought my .454 Casull carbine was pretty bad ass. But in looking at some of the heaviest loads for the .454 Casull, they don't even come close to the ballistics of this cartridge.

auto-5
02-13-2012, 21:50
If it were me I would get an upper in .308. The upper is cheaper. You can buy ammo at freaking wal-mart at a reasonable price , and it is big enough to kill anything in North America.

rpew1
02-13-2012, 21:54
Beowulf.

Syclone538
02-13-2012, 22:17
If it were me I would get an upper in .308. The upper is cheaper. You can buy ammo at freaking wal-mart at a reasonable price , and it is big enough to kill anything in North America.

.308 = AR10, not AR15.

I think I'd prefer a FAL or M1A to a AR10 anyway.

hsprincipal
02-25-2012, 15:51
Thanks for all the feedback. I'm going with the .450.

glock2740
02-25-2012, 16:15
I would say that as much as I think the .450 BM would be cool to have, the ammo is too expensive and hard to come by. So, I bought a Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70. I can't knock the .450 BM choice over the .45-70, as I also have a hardchromed Guncrafter Model 3 in .50GI, which also is an expensive round that is hard to come by. So, if you want a cool ass .450 BM, I say go for it. :cool:

hsprincipal
02-25-2012, 21:32
I would say that as much as I think the .450 BM would be cool to have, the ammo is too expensive and hard to come by. So, I bought a Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70. I can't knock the .450 BM choice over the .45-70, as I also have a hardchromed Guncrafter Model 3 in .50GI, which also is an expensive round that is hard to come by. So, if you want a cool ass .450 BM, I say go for it. :cool:

My local gunstore owner said he had three cases in stock and keeps it on hand so I guess I'll buy it from him. I'll let you know how it goes.

turbobrick
02-25-2012, 22:21
My .450 is one of my absolute favorite uppers. Its great to be able to reload with standard .45 projectiles, and you just can't argue with that much power in an AR15 carbine. One suggestion though. If you are used to shooting with your nose on the charging handle as I am, you may want to adjust your hold, the recoil is a little more 'robust' than 5.56.

The ammo isn't rally all that expensive, it is about in line with good hunting ammo, which makes sense because thats exactly what it is.