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bigmoney890
02-12-2012, 19:16
Thinking about getting either the 226 in .40 or the USP .40. Any opinions on which is better? Why?

glock2740
02-12-2012, 19:38
USP 40 gets my vote.

H&K 4 LIFE
02-12-2012, 19:46
Having shot both a good deal, I can say unequivocally that each of them are quality pistols.

The trigger on the SIG is nice, while I greatly prefer the controls featured on the USP.

Shoot both and then decide for yourself. Either way, you've got a good pistol. :)

http://oi53.tinypic.com/n6unv7.jpg

cowboy1964
02-12-2012, 19:54
Do you prefer steel or polymer? It really comes down to that, IMO.

I had a USP 40 for a looong time. Wish I had shot it more than I did. Only reason I got rid of it was it was just too large for carry. The Sig is too large AND too heavy.

oldnoob
02-12-2012, 20:07
I like sig over HK. But for 40s&w, I will go with USP.

D3S3RT_P3NGU1N
02-12-2012, 20:16
Both are great guns, but I prefer Sigs personally

Pick the one that feels better to you

bigmoney890
02-12-2012, 21:45
http://oi53.tinypic.com/n6unv7.jpg

Nice collection you have there. I want to shoot both but none of my locals ranges have either guns to shoot. Ive shot my mothers Sig 2022 a good amount but just dont like it very well. I know that the 2022 is polymer and feels different from the P226 that i want, but does anyone know how the 226 and 2022 compare to each other?

skeeter7
02-12-2012, 23:02
I have shot both a bunch and my vote goes with a non-railed P226. The grip and trigger just feel that much better to me.

NEOH212
02-12-2012, 23:50
Their both great guns. The Sig has the better trigger. The HK is about as much of a bomb proof a pistol as you can get. Both are rather large for EDC but with the right holster, it can be done. I have carried both and if I had to choose, I'd go with the HK in this case as it's the lighter of the two.

If someone is going to opt for the Sig, go with the 229 instead of the 226. Same capacity and a lot more concealable.

Javelin
02-12-2012, 23:52
As above the SIG will have the better trigger but I personally believe that the USP will be the better pistol in the long term.

G26S239
02-12-2012, 23:53
I have the smaller versions of each, a USPc 40 and a P229 40. The P229 40 is my favorite 40 (out of P229, P239, G32, USPc 40, S&W M&P40c and P2000sk) although my P2000sk is my 2nd favorite 40.

gunsmoke92
02-13-2012, 00:00
I've never fired the 226, but the P229 in .40 is the most accurate handgun I have ever owned. I'd take a Sig any day of the week.

G26S239
02-13-2012, 00:04
I have the smaller versions of each, a USPc 40 and a P229 40. The P229 40 is my favorite 40 (out of P229, P239, G32, USPc 40, S&W M&P40c and P2000sk) although my P2000sk is my 2nd favorite 40.
And FNP40. But I have not tried the FNP 40, I got it in trade for a gun I did not want. Not sure to sell it or try it.

Hour13
02-13-2012, 00:09
Pick the one that feels better to you

Yup!

But really, how can you say no to that face?

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn269/hour13/gun%20stuff/100_4244.jpg

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G26S239
02-13-2012, 00:19
Yup!

But really, how can you say no to that face?

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn269/hour13/gun%20stuff/100_4244.jpg

:supergrin:
Good point. I like my USP 45 and USP 9mm. :thumbsup: I would probably like the USP 40 as well.

Hour13
02-13-2012, 00:28
Good point. I like my USP 45 and USP 9mm. :thumbsup: I would probably like the USP 40 as well.

Haha, ya. And especially if you've ever shot any other .40 pistols... You'll love the USP.

I loved my G22, fantastic gun. But damn, what a difference. HK did a fantastic job with taming the muzzle rise. It was like stepping out of a Civic, and into a Bentley.

:cool:

NEOH212
02-13-2012, 02:05
Haha, ya. And especially if you've ever shot any other .40 pistols... You'll love the USP.

I loved my G22, fantastic gun. But damn, what a difference. HK did a fantastic job with taming the muzzle rise. It was like stepping out of a Civic, and into a Bentley.

:cool:

I couldn't agree more. I thought the 226 was a soft shooter in .40 until I shoot the USP. While not night and day different, there was a noticeable difference enough to make me favor the HK USP .40 and deem it one of the softest shooting .40 caliber handguns I have ever fired. Oh yes, did I mention it's very accurate too?

:supergrin:

bac1023
02-13-2012, 03:31
If you're talking about the new American built Sigs, I'd go with the HK.

NEOH212
02-13-2012, 03:48
If you're talking about the new American built Sigs, I'd go with the HK.

I'm yet to see all the problems that so many talk about with the American built Sig's.

Did you ever think it's mostly internet BS? Every manufacture (including HK) makes a dud now and then. Sig's aren't perfect nor are they the do all end all gun. There are a few HK's made here in the states now. Does that mean they are junk as well?

I would say no. Just because it's not made in Germany doesn't automatically mean it's junk. I will say that I don't like where Sig is going as a company and I don't like the redesigned slides. They have some things that need attention. Quality isn't one of them.

YMMV. :wavey:

bac1023
02-13-2012, 05:07
I'm yet to see all the problems that so many talk about with the American built Sig's.

Did you ever think it's mostly internet BS? Every manufacture (including HK) makes a dud now and then. Sig's aren't perfect nor are they the do all end all gun. There are a few HK's made here in the states now. Does that mean they are junk as well?

I would say no. Just because it's not made in Germany doesn't automatically mean it's junk. I will say that I don't like where Sig is going as a company and I don't like the redesigned slides. They have some things that need attention. Quality isn't one of them.

YMMV. :wavey:

I don't feel the quality is bad, I just don't think they're as good as the older German models. The styling sucks too, in my opinion.

skeeter7
02-13-2012, 05:34
I don't feel the quality is bad, I just don't think they're as good as the older German models. The styling sucks too, in my opinion.

That's why I said a non-railed P226 in my post as my pick. I love mine.

bac1023
02-13-2012, 06:11
That's why I said a non-railed P226 in my post as my pick. I love mine.

I love the classic P series Sigs.

I need to pick up a few actually.

series1811
02-13-2012, 06:25
I just never could get used to the USP trigger.

G26S239
02-13-2012, 07:44
I'm yet to see all the problems that so many talk about with the American built Sig's.

Did you ever think it's mostly internet BS? Every manufacture (including HK) makes a dud now and then. Sig's aren't perfect nor are they the do all end all gun. There are a few HK's made here in the states now. Does that mean they are junk as well?

I would say no. Just because it's not made in Germany doesn't automatically mean it's junk. I will say that I don't like where Sig is going as a company and I don't like the redesigned slides. They have some things that need attention. Quality isn't one of them.

YMMV. :wavey:Yes. I do believe that it is mostly internet bs.

M&P15T
02-13-2012, 08:22
I've owned and carried both. A SIG226 carries much larger, and the SIG has a higher bore axis relative to the grip, so they're more prone to muzzle flip.

No question for me, H&K.

Aceman
02-13-2012, 09:22
HK does .40 right.

TalkToTheGlock
02-13-2012, 10:14
USP hands down.


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barth
02-13-2012, 10:29
Thinking about getting either the 226 in .40 or the USP .40. Any opinions on which is better? Why?

Both are fine guns.
I can't hit the side of a barn with an HK.
Sigs, in my hands, are tack drivers.
It's an ergonomics thingy.

Moral to this story is rent before you buy.
Don't make an $800 mistake you'll regret.

austin_tx
02-13-2012, 10:53
If you're talking about the new American built Sigs, I'd go with the HK.

Yep. The Exeter-built Sigs from 2004 and earlier are outstanding guns, but I'd have no interest whatsoever in anything from Exeter in the last several years.

HK Dan
02-13-2012, 12:42
I just never could get used to the USP trigger.

Heck they shoot in beautifully.

The USP will be the softest shooting 40 you'll ever fire (full size). Not true with the compact, owing to the different recoil system. The HK is as accurate as the Sig, softer shooting, and it's an HK. HK!

<g>
Dan

DoubleWide
02-13-2012, 19:39
Sig over the HK.

86brick
02-13-2012, 20:25
SIG everyday and twice on Sunday.

fowler
02-14-2012, 09:06
The Sig is a proven platform and used by most of the special forces of the world and many armys to. The 226 is super reliable and accurate. HK is a minor player with a big price for what you get. Not impressed for the same price the SIG wins of course!

Travclem
02-14-2012, 09:14
I have a P229, P220, and USP .45. IMO, the Sigs are better guns.

H&K 4 LIFE
02-14-2012, 12:01
... HK is a minor player with a big price for what you get.

HK pistols and long arms are in use by a wide variety of military, law enforcement and special forces agencies.

The Mark 23 and USP Tactical have long been used by the SEALS and the MP-5 has always been a favorable choice in sub-guns. Currently, the HK45C with threaded barrel (designated Mk24) has recently been adopted by DEVGRU as a suppressor platform chambered in .45ACP. The HK416 and MP-7 PDW have also seen use in the special forces community.

The entire German military uses the HK P8 pistol as standard issue. The G36 is also their standard issue rifle.

The Brits are currently using the SA-80 A2, and guess who was tasked with making the necessary alterations to the design and is producing them?

With regards to US Law Enforcement, the USBP/ICE, under the entire Department of Homeland Security... all are issued the P2000/P2000SK.

To say that HK is a minor player in the world of small arms is simply incorrect.

fowler
02-14-2012, 14:21
The mp-5 is being phased out and and the hk 23 is not favored by the Seals,being to big and to few shots. Hk is still out there barley.

sentian
02-14-2012, 15:08
You would have to have a good fondling session with each pistol in order to get a good opinion of which is better for you. I personally like the heavier 226 feel over the usp.

ranger88
02-14-2012, 16:38
In .40 S&W I would get a SIG P229 instead of the P226 or the H&K USP. I say this having previously owned an H&K USP(C) in .40 S&W, a SIG P226 in 9mm and currently own a SIG P229 in .40 S&W as well as an H&K USP(f) .45ACP. To me it's more of a manual of arms question rather than a brand discussion. The H&K and the SIG are both fantastic handguns that will serve you well and will shoot more accurately than 95% of the owners out there are capable of. Good luck in your decision!

Brucev
02-14-2012, 17:46
Thinking about getting either the 226 in .40 or the USP .40. Any opinions on which is better? Why?

Used them. Prefer the P-226. YMMV.

silentpoet
02-14-2012, 22:41
Don't think you can go wrong with either. It is almost a coin flip situation. The usp is lighter probably.

candyteggy
02-14-2012, 22:46
if i had to get a .40, HK would be the only company i look at.

LawScholar
02-15-2012, 00:17
If you're talking about the new American built Sigs, I'd go with the HK.

Yup. It's not even so much the sometimes-poorer finishing work that gets me. I just hate all the liquid metal diamond plate rainbow X-Treme nonsense. It's like Sig built this reputation as a truly elite gunmaker, and they're not even taking it seriously now.

handyman40
02-16-2012, 03:21
I had both, but traded the USP Compact because I didn't like the mag release on the trigger guard, my opinion is the P226. good luck

handyman40
02-16-2012, 03:30
The USP is a great gun too

Two Guns
02-16-2012, 09:01
I would choose the HK with a LEM trigger. The Sigs don't carry as well as H&K's do.

The Retired Sarge
02-16-2012, 09:26
I own 13 SIG Sauer pistols and have carried them on duty and shot them for many years. Just recently got into HK pistols and let's just say that is the only brand I will buy in the future. The engineering, quality materials, and extreme quality control is all there. Any one that is "high speed, low drag" in the world uses HK. I would not be surprised to see the SEALs replace the 226 with the P30.

I would go with the USP 40 with no second thoughts. Bill

LawScholar
02-16-2012, 17:09
I own 13 SIG Sauer pistols and have carried them on duty and shot them for many years. Just recently got into HK pistols and let's just say that is the only brand I will buy in the future. The engineering, quality materials, and extreme quality control is all there. Any one that is "high speed, low drag" in the world uses HK. I would not be surprised to see the SEALs replace the 226 with the P30.

I would go with the USP 40 with no second thoughts. Bill

The more I think about it the more I want an HK next. I've been saving pennies and dimes and I'm up to 220 for my next gun. I was going to stop at 450-500 and get a Glock / XD / M&P, but I think I may wait until 700-800 and get an HK.

My dad owns a few Colt revolvers and it goes a long way toward convincing me that quality is worth it.

Gray_Wolf
02-16-2012, 17:27
I had 3 P226's and a USP.45 but ended up selling them all. Both had unnecessarily high bore axis and I preferred shooting my Glocks, Berettas and CZs.

Probably won't get another P226, but if I come across a good deal on a USP I'd probably pick it up. I love my Sig 1911 Carry tho.

mangkukhan
02-16-2012, 18:14
I've owned and shot both, just got back from shooting my HK matter of fact less than twenty minutes ago. The HK USP was built to be a .40 S&W platform, when they came out that was very unique in the industry. Usually guns were and may still be built on the 9mm and then upped to the .40 where they don't always sing as well as they did with the 9mm in my opinion. Some guns were made to be 9mm's like my Beretta's, I love the 92 series hate the 96 series they just shoot wrong for me.

HK's are fantastic guns, built tough as nails, and the full size .40 shoots like a dream. As for the Sig I didn't dislike my 226, it simply never impressed me and I found myself never shooting it. My HK never ever gets left at home when I hit the range it's always in my bag no matter what, I personally sport a variant 7 I believe it is. That is a DAO, bobbed hammer, no external safety or decocker, very straight forward and action ready. They are made to allow users to change them between the 9 available variants so you can change the setup if you decide later. The recoil system does make a difference, and they take down retardedly simple.

Just my two cents, I prefer the USP over the Sig, though the Sig isn't a bad gun at all.

Hour13
02-16-2012, 22:40
I own 13 SIG Sauer pistols and have carried them on duty and shot them for many years. Just recently got into HK pistols and let's just say that is the only brand I will buy in the future. The engineering, quality materials, and extreme quality control is all there. Any one that is "high speed, low drag" in the world uses HK. I would not be surprised to see the SEALs replace the 226 with the P30.

I would go with the USP 40 with no second thoughts. Bill

I love my USP, and I'll never let it go. But holy jeevis, the P30 is not only an incredible weapon, it's a frikin work of art.

The P30 in .40 is my next must-have HK.
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