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TBO
02-14-2012, 11:45
ACLU Backs Gun Advocate in Suit Against Philly Police

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Open-Carry-Gun-Advocate-Sues-Over-Philly-Arrest-139293283.html

HerrGlock
02-14-2012, 11:50
This one should go in GNG for a day or so then moved here!

Holy COW! Satan's buying skates.

TBO
02-14-2012, 11:53
<----couldn't have been more surprised if he woke up with his head sown to the carpet

RussP
02-14-2012, 12:09
History...


Philadelphia police assault open carrier at gunpoint - Chapter I (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1330904)


Philadelphia police assault open carrier at gunpoint - Chapter II (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1332430)


Philly PD assault OCer at gunpoint -Chapter III- How to Solve the Problems (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1333823)


Philly PD assault OCer at gunpoint-Chapter IV- Arrest Warrant out for Viper (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1337713)


Philly PD assault OCer at gunpoint-Chapter V-Viper's story on philly.com (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1343204&highlight=Philly)


Philly PD assault OCer at gunpoint-Chapter VI-Viper Not Guilty (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1378067&highlight=Philly)

RussP
02-14-2012, 12:10
Double tap...

RussP
02-14-2012, 12:12
<----couldn't have been more surprised if he woke up with his head sown to the carpetWhen do we need to fertilize and water?????


:animlol:

Jud325
02-14-2012, 13:13
Pdf files of the complaint and press release.



http://forum.pafoa.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36754&d=1329236479

http://forum.pafoa.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36755&d=1329236486

Captain Caveman
02-14-2012, 13:46
There's a chill in the air, and it's coming from Hell...

xmanhockey7
02-14-2012, 13:57
ACLU is antigun and does not care about the gun carry issue.

Jud325
02-14-2012, 14:06
ACLU is antigun and does not care about the gun carry issue.


http://www.aclupa.org/

City of Philadelphia Sued for Retaliating Against Gun Rights Advocate

(2/14/12) PHILADELPHIA - The American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania and the law firm of McCausland Keen & Buckman filed a federal lawsuit today against the city of Philadelphia on behalf of Mark Fiorino, a gun rights advocate who legally carries an unconcealed weapon in public. The suit alleges that the Philadelphia Police Department filed retaliatory charges against Fiorino after it learned that there was a YouTube recording of Philadelphia police officers threatening to shoot and screaming profanities at an unresisting Fiorino in February 2011. Fiorino was cleared of all charges in October 2011.
read more... (http://www.glocktalk.com/pressroom/gunrightsadvocatesuescityo.htm)

HerrGlock
02-14-2012, 14:16
<----couldn't have been more surprised if he woke up with his head sown to the carpet

Alright, Clark.

HerrGlock
02-14-2012, 14:17
ACLU is antigun and does not care about the gun carry issue.

So they didn't take the case, is what you're saying?

Strange that everyone else says they're taking the case.

RussP
02-14-2012, 15:18
ACLU is antigun and does not care about the gun carry issue.Pdf files of the complaint and press release.

http://forum.pafoa.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36754&d=1329236479

http://forum.pafoa.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=36755&d=1329236486This is from the press release...PHILADELPHIA – The American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania and the law firm of McCausland Keen & Buckman filed a federal lawsuit today against the city of Philadelphia on behalf of Mark Fiorino, a gun rights advocate who legally carries an unconcealed weapon in public.Did you read the press release before posting? You need to. The above is the first paragraph. Here is the second paragraph...“This was a vindictive prosecution of Mr. Fiorino motivated solely by the fact that he publicly embarrassed the Philadelphia Police Department and threatened to sue them for their misbehavior,” said Reggie Shuford, executive director of the ACLU of Pennsylvania. “Citizens have the right to hold police accountable without fear that they will be harassed or prosecuted for doing so.”As HerrGlock commented...So they didn't take the case, is what you're saying?

Strange that everyone else says they're taking the case.:cool:

Sam Spade
02-14-2012, 15:22
So I'm guessing that "principle" has a dollar figure attached after all...

Spiffums
02-14-2012, 15:26
So they didn't take the case, is what you're saying?

Strange that everyone else says they're taking the case.

He is probably trying to say that they are taking the case for the civil rights violations and not the 2nd amendment issue.

HerrGlock
02-14-2012, 16:12
He is probably trying to say that they are taking the case for the civil rights violations and not the 2nd amendment issue.

Irrelevant to me and probably everyone else. They are taking the case or have taken the case. It's a gun case. The ACLU has taken it on.

Where I grew up there's a saying, "You'd complain if they hung you with a new rope." I do believe I know what that actually means now.

kensteele
02-14-2012, 16:20
ACLU is antigun and does not care about the gun carry issue.

ACLU doesn't care specifically about guns. All they care about is liberty and rights. Doesn't matter if it's guns or whatever.

Anyone who thinks the ACLU is ok if your rights are violated when it comes to guns is bound to find themselves on the nasty end of a lawsuit (ala PPD).

janice6
02-14-2012, 16:22
This one should go in GNG for a day or so then moved here!

Holy COW! Satan's buying skates.



Sort of the same way I was thinking.........().

xmanhockey7
02-14-2012, 19:48
So they didn't take the case, is what you're saying?

Strange that everyone else says they're taking the case.

ACLU is more concerned with this mans other rights being violated NOT his right to bear arms.

unit1069
02-15-2012, 05:39
He is probably trying to say that they are taking the case for the civil rights violations and not the 2nd amendment issue.

The ACLU is completely anti-Second Amendment. The Philly chapter is taking the case only to further the ACLU's long-established jihad against all traditional LEO and legitimate government agencies.

The ACLU interprets the Second Amendment as a collective right. Therefore, we disagree with the Supreme Court’s decision in D.C. v. Heller.While the decision is a significant and historic reinterpretation of the right to keep and bear arms, the decision leaves many important questions unanswered that will have to be resolved in future litigation, including what regulations are permissible, and which weapons are embraced by the Second Amendment right that the Court has now recognized. http://www.aclu.org/2008/07/01/heller-decision-and-the-second-amendment

Of course, the Radical Left ACLU's deliberate mischaracterization of Heller as a "reinterpretation" of the Second Amendment is itself a neo-Stalinist exercise in revisionist history as Justice Scalia's majority opinion irrefutably traces the reasons for the Founders's reaffirmation of the individual God-given right to self-defense against tyrants and common criminals alike.

Bet your bottom dollar that the next anti-rights gun legislation making the rounds in DC will have the full support of the ACLU and other collectivist Radical Left groups. You won't lose.

Bruce M
02-15-2012, 05:59
I had thought that the NRA and ACLU have worked together before this. I thought they had some alliance asking for changes in federal law enforcement after Waco.


Phrased differently I think the adage "Politics makes strange bedfellows" applies.

xmanhockey7
02-15-2012, 08:13
ACLU is incredibly liberal. A person I know on another forum asked them where they stood on the 2nd amendment. They said it was meant for the militia not the people.

whoflungdo
02-15-2012, 08:28
This one should go in GNG for a day or so then moved here!

Holy COW! Satan's buying skates.

This makes the second time they have been involved in something that I was surprised with. IIRC, they assisted with a teacher that was fired for wearing a crucifix or Star of David, can't remember which...

Misty02
02-15-2012, 09:44
This is at least the second time (there could be more) that I’ve heard of the ACLU getting involved in cases where firearms are involved.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2010-07-15/news/fl-aclu-sues-for-seized-weapons-20100715_1_aclu-petitions-court-guns-sheriff (http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2010-07-15/news/fl-aclu-sues-for-seized-weapons-20100715_1_aclu-petitions-court-guns-sheriff)


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Shadyscott69
02-15-2012, 15:11
ACLU Backs Gun Advocate in Suit Against Philly Police

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Open-Carry-Gun-Advocate-Sues-Over-Philly-Arrest-139293283.html

WOW! I thought the 2nd was the amendment that the ACLU didn't agree with.

ETA: "The ACLU disagrees with the Supreme Court's conclusion about the nature of the right protected by the Second Amendment. We do not, however, take a position on gun control itself. In our view, neither the possession of guns nor the regulation of guns raises a civil liberties issue."