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bac1023
02-16-2012, 16:20
I did some thinking over the last couple of weeks and revaluated my handgun collection. I pretty much revamped about 75% of my list of guns to get, while keeping the same total number. I really think I'm done with the new production stuff, other than a couple high end 1911s that I still want.


Gone from my list are as follows:

The latest and greatest polymers - What's the point of collecting them when new models are always being introduced?

Many of the new production 1911s - Simply no need. I trimmed my 1911 list down to three more custom/semi custom models.

A few other obscurities - I have enough of the weird stuff already.



Added to my list are as follows:

West German P-series Sigs - More specifically a P226, P229, P225, P228, P220 in 9mm, and possibly a German P239. No rails, no goofy color schemes, and certainly not built in Exeter. I'm talking all black, West German Sigs.

A couple older Belgian Hi Powers - The Hi Power remains my favorite 9mm and I have very little to show for that in my collection. I have a few newer production models and that's it. I want a couple from the 1970's or older built in Belgium, not Portugal.

More 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation Smith & Wesson autos - I'm talking a 39 (which I can't believe I don't own yet), a 645, and 745, a 4506, and an older Performance Center model.

Other than that, I still need a couple of high end exotic 9mms, like the Korth Autopistol and possibly a P7M13. I'm also thinking another Sig P210 - an older model this time perhaps from the 1950's.

44 Auto Mag - Been on my list for several years and its not coming off until I pick one up.



Anyway, I already completely reorganized my gun shelves to accommodate my new list. I think I'm now headed in the right direction as I finish my collection. My plan is to stop at 200 handguns. As of now, I own 174. There are exactly 26 left on my list (I'm a bit OCD about my handgun collection)

Thoughts? :dunno:

SixkillerEnterprises
02-16-2012, 16:44
Thoughts? :dunno:

Sounds great! But do you own any freepistols? Besides my one polymer gun they're the only class of new production pistols that I would really want.

Edit: then there's always the classic freepistol, the toz35

s&wfan
02-16-2012, 16:57
I did some thinking over the last couple of weeks and revaluated my handgun collection. I pretty much revamped about 75% of my list of guns to get, while keeping the same total number. I really think I'm done with the new production stuff, other than a couple high end 1911s that I still want.


Gone from my list are as follows:

The latest and greatest polymers - What's the point of collecting them when new models are always being introduced?

Many of the new production 1911s - Simply no need. I trimmed my 1911 list down to three more custom/semi custom models.

A few other obscurities - I have enough of the weird stuff already.



Added to my list are as follows:

West German P-series Sigs - More specifically a P226, P229, P225, P228, P220 in 9mm, and possibly a German P239. No rails, no goofy color schemes, and certainly not built in Exeter. I'm talking all black, West German Sigs.

A couple older Belgian Hi Powers - The Hi Power remains my favorite 9mm and I have very little to show for that in my collection. I have a few newer production models and that's it. I want a couple from the 1970's or older built in Belgium, not Portugal.

More 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation Smith & Wesson autos - I'm talking a 39 (which I can't believe I don't own yet), a 645, and 745, a 4506, and an older Performance Center model.

Other than that, I still need a couple of high end exotic 9mms, like the Korth Autopistol and possibly a P7M13. I'm also thinking another Sig P210 - an older model this time perhaps from the 1950's.

44 Auto Mag - Been on my list for several years and its not coming off until I pick one up.



Anyway, I already completely reorganized my gun shelves to accommodate my new list. I think I'm now headed in the right direction as I finish my collection. My plan is to stop at 200 handguns. As of now, I own 174. There are exactly 26 left on my list (I'm a bit OCD about my handgun collection)

Thoughts? :dunno:

4506 is a beast. Love it. I'm trying to get away from imports and go all S&W.

Bruce M
02-16-2012, 17:40
Polymer pistols may be good to carry and shoot and often have some cost advantages but I agree that the current ones anyway do not seem to have "collector panache" if you will.

My guess is that Smith steel (aluminium) pistols are going to enjoy an increase in price and interest as collectibles the same as their revolvers have in the past decade or so.

And I remain if the opinion if it is black and German it is going to be a fine firearm...


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5056/5492345948_493c1428e8_z.jpg

:supergrin:


That said I would not second gues yourself too much; as I presume you know your collection and taste remains envied by more than a few of us here.

oldnoob
02-16-2012, 18:03
Bac, don't forget some of those discountinue pistols. Like Star (I know you still want a Megastar) series.

I complete agree with your take on polymer pistol. Have a few that you need but there is no need to "collect" polymer pistol.

jrs93accord
02-16-2012, 18:06
Brian, as far as Hi Powers are concerned, the old stuff is the way to go. These are my two oldies. I still want to add a couple more. I would like to find a nice Inglis model.

1936 Fabrique Nationale Hi Power (Belgium)
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/001-24.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/002-20.jpg


1969 Browning Hi Power (Belgium)
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/001-19.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/001-6.jpg

wavetrain75
02-16-2012, 18:11
...I'm also thinking another Sig P210 - an older model this time perhaps from the 1950's...

:homer: Mmmm...Sig P210....

Are the new productions as nice as the old ones?

I'd take a Coonan, too, but the P210 would come first.

38 Super Fan
02-16-2012, 18:12
Yeah, I'm sure you're totally done at 200. :upeyes:

:rofl:

Bruce M
02-16-2012, 18:14
Brian, as far as Hi Powers are concerned, the old stuff is the way to go. These are my two oldies. I still want to add a couple more. I would like to find a nice Inglis model.

1936 Fabrique Nationale Hi Power (Belgium)
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/001-24.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/002-20.jpg


1969 Browning Hi Power (Belgium)
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/001-19.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/001-6.jpg


^^ And to be fair, someone else with a very enviable collection.

jrs93accord
02-16-2012, 18:31
:homer: Mmmm...Sig P210....

Are the new productions as nice as the old ones?

I'd take a Coonan, too, but the P210 would come first.

There is nothing like one of the older Coonans. This one ws made in the late '80s.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/001-25.jpg

jrs93accord
02-16-2012, 18:35
^^ And to be fair, someone else with a very enviable collection.

Thanks Bruce. I am where I am today partly due to Brian. He is an excellent source of information. He and I have spoken several times over the past few years. I brag about a lot of the pieces he has in his collection.

bac1023
02-16-2012, 18:35
Bac, don't forget some of those discountinue pistols. Like Star (I know you still want a Megastar) series.



Yeah, the Megastar is still on the list, actually.

I do own a couple Stars already though.

Deaf Smith
02-16-2012, 18:35
Polymer pistols may be good to carry and shoot and often have some cost advantages but I agree that the current ones anyway do not seem to have "collector panache" if you will.

My guess is that Smith steel (aluminium) pistols are going to enjoy an increase in price and interest as collectibles the same as their revolvers have in the past decade or so.

And I remain if the opinion if it is black and German it is going to be a fine firearm...


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5056/5492345948_493c1428e8_z.jpg

:supergrin:


That said I would not second gues yourself too much; as I presume you know your collection and taste remains envied by more than a few of us here.

So you have a RG.... Mine's a ROHM! It's a good gun for your opponent to have.

Deaf

bac1023
02-16-2012, 18:37
:homer: Mmmm...Sig P210....

Are the new productions as nice as the old ones?

I'd take a Coonan, too, but the P210 would come first.


No, I'm not buying a German P210. I think they're close to the Swiss models, but I only want the classic examples.

I already own an original Coonan. ;)

bac1023
02-16-2012, 18:38
Thanks Bruce. I am where I am today partly due to Brian. He is an excellent source of information. He and I have spoken several times over the past few years. I brag about a lot of the pieces he has in his collection.

Right back at you James :cool:

Thanks :wavey:

bac1023
02-16-2012, 18:39
^^ And to be fair, someone else with a very enviable collection.

Yes he does :)

bac1023
02-16-2012, 18:40
Yeah, I'm sure you're totally done at 200. :upeyes:

:rofl:
:animlol:

I didn't say I was done with firearms, but I plan to be done with handguns. :cool:

wavetrain75
02-16-2012, 19:04
How do the new P210s and Coonans compare to their respective predecessors?

bac1023
02-16-2012, 19:12
How do the new P210s and Coonans compare to their respective predecessors?

I've never handled a new Coonan.

I think the Swiss P210 are slightly better fitted than the new German P210 Legend. The Legend is more modern, with the beavertail and mag release. The safety also seems easier to operate on the Legend. However, the overall fitting of the Swiss models seem better.

collim1
02-16-2012, 19:19
I guess you are not a revolver fan?

They are a totally different yet equally appealing addiction.

up1911fan
02-16-2012, 19:38
Oh he's got some damn fine revolvers.

collim1
02-16-2012, 19:49
Oh he's got some damn fine revolvers.

Well, lets see them....

From his post I gathered he was a semi-auto guy.

BobCZ
02-16-2012, 19:53
Bac, I am with you on your sentiments, my desire is to long guns although a couple of revolvers are on my list. Being a "shotgun guy" I want a a "best" gun from a London House. I have Spanish for field and shoot Berettas at clays.

I need a pre '64 Winchester 94 also.

Revolver additions will be a Colt SAA and another earlier model Smith in 357.

bmoore
02-16-2012, 19:55
I love my W. German Sig P220 also a 1996 Sig P229, new Sigs seem almost goofy. Your list looks great. My buddy just came up on a Smith 4506, what a nice big ole 45. Wait, you dont have a Smith 39? You have everything! I would add a 1006 and a 1066 to the mix, dont leave the 10mm out of the party.

40 0'Glock
02-16-2012, 19:58
:animlol:

I didn't say I was done with firearms, but I plan to be done with handguns. :cool:



This could get interesting!

D3S3RT_P3NGU1N
02-16-2012, 20:03
:animlol:

I didn't say I was done with firearms, but I plan to be done with handguns. :cool:


Can we take this to mean you'll be getting into rifles? :wavey:

jrs93accord
02-16-2012, 20:03
Well, lets see them....

From his post I gathered he was a semi-auto guy.

About half of his collection is revolvers. It is a very impressive lot. :thumbsup:

I, on the other hand, am a semi-auto guy. I have 123 semi-auto pistols. I like revolvers, but just not into collecting them unless they are WWII military related. I own just one, a 1945 Nagant M1895.

carbuncle
02-16-2012, 20:04
West German P-series Sigs - More specifically a P226, P229, P225, P228, P220 in 9mm, and possibly a German P239. No rails, no goofy color schemes, and certainly not built in Exeter. I'm talking all black, West German Sigs.

A couple older Belgian Hi Powers - The Hi Power remains my favorite 9mm and I have very little to show for that in my collection. I have a few newer production models and that's it. I want a couple from the 1970's or older built in Belgium, not Portugal.

More 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation Smith & Wesson autos - I'm talking a 39 (which I can't believe I don't own yet), a 645, and 745, a 4506, and an older Performance Center model.



I like your style, there are about two dozen Smith metal-frame semi-autos on my long-list, I definitely need at least one nice HP and I've always liked the West German Sigs. I find as I go along that I want a few polymer guns in specific niches, but that I don't one one of everything.

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bac1023
02-16-2012, 20:34
I love my W. German Sig P220 also a 1996 Sig P229, new Sigs seem almost goofy. Your list looks great. My buddy just came up on a Smith 4506, what a nice big ole 45. Wait, you dont have a Smith 39? You have everything! I would add a 1006 and a 1066 to the mix, dont leave the 10mm out of the party.
I own a 59, but not a 39.

I do own a 1006. :)

ithaca_deerslayer
02-16-2012, 20:35
Bac, I apologize for my language, but why so many SIG's on your to get list?

What would be more interesting is a few more Beretta's from across the years, capturing the evolution from the 1930's to the 92.

Longitudinal development as opposed to a static collection of a single model.

My 2 cents from a guy who only has one West German gun out of a small functional collection of only 17 handguns.

bac1023
02-16-2012, 21:12
Bac, I apologize for my language, but why so many SIG's on your to get list?

What would be more interesting is a few more Beretta's from across the years, capturing the evolution from the 1930's to the 92.

Longitudinal development as opposed to a static collection of a single model.

My 2 cents from a guy who only has one West German gun out of a small functional collection of only 17 handguns.

I hear you. I have several Berettas already and have another 70 series coming soon. That said, I'm not enough of a Beretta fan to collect all that.

By contrast, the German Sigs really appeal to me.

Hines57
02-16-2012, 21:59
Oh you know you still want my 229 Sport

oldnoob
02-16-2012, 23:25
Bac, I apologize for my language, but why so many SIG's on your to get list?

What would be more interesting is a few more Beretta's from across the years, capturing the evolution from the 1930's to the 92.

Longitudinal development as opposed to a static collection of a single model.

My 2 cents from a guy who only has one West German gun out of a small functional collection of only 17 handguns.

Sig > Beretta

Enough said...


:tongueout:

12131
02-16-2012, 23:43
I did some thinking over the last couple of weeks and revaluated my handgun collection......

Thoughts? :dunno:
:rofl:

12131
02-16-2012, 23:45
....the German Sigs really appeal to me.
Agree. To be more specific, only the P225/P6 and P228 for me.

bac1023
02-17-2012, 03:41
I guess you are not a revolver fan?

They are a totally different yet equally appealing addiction.

Oh he's got some damn fine revolvers.

Well, lets see them....

From his post I gathered he was a semi-auto guy.

Honestly, I am more of a semi-auto guy. However, I do love the classic revolvers.

I do have two more on my list as part of the 26 left.

I'll post a pic at some point.

bac1023
02-17-2012, 03:43
Agree. To be more specific, only the P225/P6 and P228 for me.

I like them the best also, so they will probably be the first I get.

I also like the old P220s quite a bit. That gun was introduced before the P225 or P228.

bac1023
02-17-2012, 03:44
Oh you know you still want my 229 Sport

I may still get a Sport model actually. They're German after all.

CajunBass
02-17-2012, 06:03
Bac, although my motley accumulation is a lot smaller than yours, I've pretty much done the same thing. I sold off all my Colts and most of my Rugers, and now pretty much have just Smith & Wesson revolvers and a couple of Model 39's.

I'm considering selling off a couple of my newer Smith & Wessons, and narrowing it down even more to five screw models, and those "in the box."

hardbargin
02-17-2012, 06:13
So you have a RG.... Mine's a ROHM! It's a good gun for your opponent to have.

Deaf
how bout the ARMINUS? it slides right in next to the rg10.:supergrin:

Nestor
02-17-2012, 06:41
Well my Friend, if You want the classic, all steel pistol...which may not be in your collection yet...You may start looking around for VIS P35 Radom :wavey:

jrs93accord
02-17-2012, 06:52
Well my Friend, if You want the classic, all steel pistol...which may not be in your collection yet...You may start looking around for VIS P35 Radom :wavey:

I agree. I was fortunate enough to pick mine up a few years ago for $100 from a guy I worked with. I could never replace it if something happened to it.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea%202012/001-3.jpg

This one was made circa 1940 during the German occupation of Poland. This one is a Grade 2 model.

Bruce M
02-17-2012, 07:04
So you have a RG.... Mine's a ROHM! It's a good gun for your opponent to have.

Deaf
I will admit is a shamelessly swiped pic from the internet. I am very far away from being secure enough in my masculinity to actually admit here on GT that I have anything like that. Heck I am not really sure I would even admit to a Springfield P9 hidden in the back of the safe...


My opinion is that your collection probably needs a Registered Magnum. But I admit that might be vicarious on my part.:embarassed:

ithaca_deerslayer
02-17-2012, 07:06
I hear you. I have several Berettas already and have another 70 series coming soon. That said, I'm not enough of a Beretta fan to collect all that.

By contrast, the German Sigs really appeal to me.

Ok, same question then if SIG is your thing, do you have a historical collection that shows their evolution to the ideal type you admire?

You might, I'm just curious :)

Nestor
02-17-2012, 07:08
I agree. I was fortunate enough to pick mine up a few years ago for $100 from a guy I worked with. I could never replace it if something happened to it.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea%202012/001-3.jpg

This one was made circa 1940 during the German occupation of Poland. This one is a Grade 2 model.

Very nice. Congratulations!
I wish I could possibly find a pre-war model one day.
Not even for shooting (blasphemy I know), but because of the historic and sentimental value for the ex-Polish soldier.

Bruce M
02-17-2012, 07:18
And as far as a 39 goes I would think the all steel version would be preferable, collecting wise.

bac1023
02-17-2012, 07:30
Well my Friend, if You want the classic, all steel pistol...which may not be in your collection yet...You may start looking around for VIS P35 Radom :wavey:

Its still on my list, Nestor. That didn't get removed.

In fact, I've been looking at them on Gunbroker recently.

bac1023
02-17-2012, 07:32
My opinion is that your collection probably needs a Registered Magnum. But I admit that might be vicarious on my part.:embarassed:

Maybe so. Two of my remaining 26 will be revolvers and I'm not certain as to which they will be other than older Smith & Wessons.

A Registered Magnum fits that description well. :cool:

pennlineman
02-17-2012, 07:53
BAC you have the most impressive personal collection I've ever seen. Only you know what you want. It will be interesting to see what you move on to next. In regards to the S&W revolvers the registered magnum would be the cats meow. Other models that I would consider would be a 27 with a 3 1/2" bbl, a 24-1 with a 5" bbl and a 25-1 in .45 Colt. Very few of the 25-1's were made in .45 Colt.

bac1023
02-17-2012, 08:03
Ok, same question then if SIG is your thing, do you have a historical collection that shows their evolution to the ideal type you admire?

You might, I'm just curious :)

Not really. As of now, I don't own very many Sigs at all.

I've got more Berettas than Sigs. That will change though. :)

bac1023
02-17-2012, 08:05
BAC you have the most impressive personal collection I've ever seen. Only you know what you want. It will be interesting to see what you move on to next. In regards to the S&W revolvers the registered magnum would be the cats meow. Other models that I would consider would be a 27 with a 3 1/2" bbl, a 24-1 with a 5" bbl and a 25-1 in .45 Colt. Very few of the 25-1's were made in .45 Colt.
Thanks for the compliments.

I would like a 25, as I don't own one. I also don't own a 19.

I do have a 27, albeit its an 8 3/8" barrel.

bac1023
02-17-2012, 08:09
And as far as a 39 goes I would think the all steel version would be preferable, collecting wise.

Very true. Aren't the "no dash" models all steel?

PzGren
02-17-2012, 08:10
I've never handled a new Coonan.

I think the Swiss P210 are slightly better fitted than the new German P210 Legend. The Legend is more modern, with the beavertail and mag release. The safety also seems easier to operate on the Legend. However, the overall fitting of the Swiss models seem better.

The older SIG P210 have no MIM parts and were completely fitted by hand. The P210-6 started having MIM parts. I compared one of the new P210 from SIG Sauer to my old and tired P210-4 from the early 1950s and I like the fit and charisma of my old beater much better:supergrin:.

bac1023
02-17-2012, 08:47
The older SIG P210 have no MIM parts and were completely fitted by hand. The P210-6 started having MIM parts. I compared one of the new P210 from SIG Sauer to my old and tired P210-4 from the early 1950s and I like the fit and charisma of my old beater much better:supergrin:.

Oh I defintiely agree. The Legend is a very nice looking gun, but I feel the older Swiss models were the best fit P210s.

Wyoming
02-17-2012, 08:58
Thoughts? :dunno:[/QUOTE]

Tired of plastic too? I am getting that way also. I will keep what I got in my collection in 9mm because they are cheap to shoot. I will still use my Kahr P9 in a Blade Tec Paddle because it is light and useful.

However I stopped carrying my H&K USPc in 45 ACP. It is a good gun and it always works but I'm went back to 1911's and leather. I even changed out the synthetic stocks on a Springfield TRP to wood.

Maybe you and I are becoming old farts but at least we are well armed old farts! :cool:

bac1023
02-17-2012, 09:16
Tired of plastic too?

I've never been a big plastic guy. For a while I thought I wanted to pick all the popular models for collection purposes. However, they are constantly being updated, so collecting them is pointless.

I have a few polymer pistols already that I'll keep, but that's it.

Nestor
02-17-2012, 13:10
Its still on my list, Nestor. That didn't get removed.

In fact, I've been looking at them on Gunbroker recently.

Cool. Good luck :wavey:

38 Super Fan
02-17-2012, 15:13
:animlol:

I didn't say I was done with firearms, but I plan to be done with handguns. :cool:
Kinda hard to imagine you shifting to long guns Brian.

s&wfan
02-17-2012, 15:33
You should make a museum out of your gun collection, make some money off of them.

Surely you're going to keep a G17 or two, just for the historical importance of it, right?

bac1023
02-17-2012, 15:53
Kinda hard to imagine you shifting to long guns Brian.

I guess you know me too well, Cody. :supergrin:

Seriously, I have to draw the line somewhere. I need to buy more ammo. ;)

bac1023
02-17-2012, 15:53
Surely you're going to keep a G17 or two, just for the historical importance of it, right?

I'm not getting rid of any of my polymers.

I don't own a G17 though. :sad:

carbuncle
02-17-2012, 17:05
I don't own a G17 though. :sad:

That and the G26 are the only 2 Glocks on my short-list anymore, which means they're the only ones I'm likely to ever buy. The classic Glock, at it's highwater mark in Gen 3 for the G17 and at Gen 2 for the 19/23 (IMO).

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rfd339
02-17-2012, 17:05
Good luck with the Sigs Bac , I'm really fortunate that I found this 1980 P6 West German police with all the paper work intact. My best find yet.


http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/rfd339/025.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/rfd339/021.jpg

bac1023
02-17-2012, 17:25
Good luck with the Sigs Bac , I'm really fortunate that I found this 1980 P225 West German police with all the paper work intact. My best find yet.


http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/rfd339/025.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/rfd339/021.jpg

Beautiful.

The P225 and P228 are the ones I want the most. I'll hunt them down before the P226, P229, and P239.

I also want an old P220 in 9mm. I've already got a German model in 45ACP.

jrs93accord
02-17-2012, 17:35
Good luck with the Sigs Bac , I'm really fortunate that I found this 1980 P225 West German police with all the paper work intact. My best find yet.


http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/rfd339/025.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/rfd339/021.jpg

Very nice find. I have yet to add a P225 to my SIG collection (11 of them). I do have a nice 1980 P6. There is just something about early German-made SiGs that makes them more desireable.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/002-24.jpg
1st column: P220 .45ACP (2005), P220 .45ACP
2nd column: P6 (1980), P226 9mm (1987), P226 .40S&W
3rd column: P228 9mm (1994), P229 9mm, P229 .40S&W
4th column: SP2022 9mm, SP2022 .40S&W, P250 9mm (Desert)

bac1023
02-17-2012, 17:39
Very nice find. I have yet to add a P225 to my SIG collection (11 of them). I do have a nice 1980 P6. There is just something about early German-made SiGs that makes them more desireable.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/jamesrea_2006/jamesrea2011/002-24.jpg

Absolutely James. I agree completely.

As always, nice collection.

rfd339
02-17-2012, 18:25
:embarassed: Sorry for the mix up I meant 1980 P6...

bac1023
02-17-2012, 18:30
:embarassed: Sorry for the mix up I meant 1980 P6...

Pretty much the same thing :)

Nestor
02-17-2012, 18:32
Good luck with the Sigs Bac , I'm really fortunate that I found this 1980 P6 West German police with all the paper work intact. My best find yet.


http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/rfd339/025.jpg

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af199/rfd339/021.jpg

Wow! :wow:
That's so cool...

bac1023
02-17-2012, 18:34
Wow! :wow:
That's so cool...

Sure is :cool:

Bruce M
02-17-2012, 19:59
Very true. Aren't the "no dash" models all steel?

According to Supica's great book, the first 927 model 39s were all steel (and they are C&R.) These 927 were made from 1954 to 1966. Alloy frame production began in 1966 still as a 39. The 39-1 frames apparently were used for model 52As. The 39-2 was in 1971 and had a change in the extractor system.

About 2500 early 39s did not include the model number and are worth a premium. The Model 44 is a single action version of the Model 39 with no model number stamping and only ten were made. Again, thanks to Supica's Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson.

bac1023
02-17-2012, 20:24
According to Supica's great book, the first 927 model 39s were all steel (and they are C&R.) These 927 were made from 1954 to 1966. Alloy frame production began in 1966 still as a 39. The 39-1 frames apparently were used for model 52As. The 39-2 was in 1971 and had a change in the extractor system.

About 2500 early 39s did not include the model number and are worth a premium. The Model 44 is a single action version of the Model 39 with no model number stamping and only ten were made. Again, thanks to Supica's Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson.

Awesome Bruce :cool:

Thanks for the info.

glock2740
02-17-2012, 21:22
I guess you are not a revolver fan?

They are a totally different yet equally appealing addiction.
Oh, contrair mofrair. :rofl:
Oh he's got some damn fine revolvers.
Damn straight. :cool:

brianfede
02-17-2012, 21:26
How much would you expect to pay for a nice 1970's High Power? I have been looking for one and the prices seem all over the place. What do you think of the stock trigger?

brianfede
02-17-2012, 21:30
Specifically, I was looking at this HP, but just not sure on the value of these. Any input on value would be appreciated.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/306289/illinois-handguns-for-sale--lnib-belgium-made-nickel-fn-browning-9mm-high-power

bac1023
02-17-2012, 21:54
How much would you expect to pay for a nice 1970's High Power? I have been looking for one and the prices seem all over the place. What do you think of the stock trigger?

Depends on condition.

I've seen them as high as $1500-$2000 for mint condition models. The older, the higher, all else being equal.

bac1023
02-17-2012, 21:55
Specifically, I was looking at this HP, but just not sure on the value of these. Any input on value would be appreciated.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/306289/illinois-handguns-for-sale--lnib-belgium-made-nickel-fn-browning-9mm-high-power

I'm not real big on the nickel models, but that looks very nice.

brianfede
02-17-2012, 22:13
Thanks, just a bit tough to buy sight unseen via Gunbroker so I have been looking locally. BTW WOW 174 guns!!!!!! I'm still working on my first 20. I like some of the odd balls, I have been looking for a Webley Scott, do you have one of those in your vast collection??

bac1023
02-17-2012, 22:34
Thanks, just a bit tough to buy sight unseen via Gunbroker so I have been looking locally. BTW WOW 174 guns!!!!!! I'm still working on my first 20. I like some of the odd balls, I have been looking for a Webley Scott, do you have one of those in your vast collection??

No Webley.

They're cool old revolvers though.

Gunbroker has done me wonders over the years. If you really want the rare stuff, you really need to get used to it.

Once you get over the fear of it, it works great. I always ask for detailed pics, if those provided aren't good enough.

sfguard
02-17-2012, 22:36
Do you have a Smith&Wesson triple lock? Curious as to how you like it if you do

brianfede
02-17-2012, 22:36
I bot a DW and a EMP on there just hesitate with the older stuff but Im getting ready to pull the trigger on a nice HP..

bac1023
02-17-2012, 22:45
I bot a DW and a EMP on there just hesitate with the older stuff but Im getting ready to pull the trigger on a nice HP..

The best part of GB, in my opinion, is buying the old and/or hard to find stuff.

I bought very few NIB guns off GB. They're always used. Some are unfired, but always used.

brianfede
02-17-2012, 22:54
I'm not too knowledgeable abt the HP, so if you ever come across one on GB or GT that looks interesting would appreciate the advice. Thanks! Have a good eve. Brian

bac1023
02-17-2012, 22:56
I'm not too knowledgeable abt the HP, so if you ever come across one on GB or GT that looks interesting would appreciate the advice. Thanks! Have a good eve. Brian

No problem.

As you can see, I'm looking for a couple myself. :cool:

Its my favorite 9mm.

brianfede
02-17-2012, 23:07
i thought this one looked pretty nice.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=272140374

bac1023
02-17-2012, 23:10
i thought this one looked pretty nice.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=272140374

Very nice indeed

Good luck winning that auction though. The more people in the bidding war, the higher the price.

Plus, it only takes two to tango. ;)

bac1023
02-18-2012, 06:59
Do you have a Smith&Wesson triple lock? Curious as to how you like it if you do

No, I don't own any real old S&Ws. :sad:

jrs93accord
02-18-2012, 07:42
i thought this one looked pretty nice.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=272140374

"T" Series Hi Powers are good ones to own. Right now, with the bid at $750, it is at an excellent price. I could see it going for as much as $900, maybe $1000 if someone is really hungry for it. That is based on what I can see from the condition in the pics provided. These are very desireable Hi Powers. I would love to have a beautiful "T" Series in my collection someday.

ArtCrafter
02-18-2012, 07:43
Beginning a few years ago, I undertook a Voluntary Inventory Reduction Program of lesser scale but similar initial goals: To keep only the 'classics' and perhaps a few purely utilitarian items.

The first to fall from The List were the latter.

Soon, my definition of 'classic' began to shift (partially to compensate for this, I suppose).

By the end (so to speak; I'm not sure there is one), I found myself down to a 'collection' exhibiting such 'respectable restraint' that you could almost take it school for Show-And-Tell.

Do I miss having what I had?

Not really. As someone once said about theirs, mine was always a 'Catch-And-Release Program.' I never thought about keeping any of them 'forever,' and so far I haven't been disappointed.

As an added bonus, I found shedding the excess property liberating. Cliché, perhaps, but true (and, admittedly, partially a product of my tendency toward minimalism in terms of 'stuff' in general).

Possibly also worth considering if you find yourself on the fence sometime.

HTH :wavey:

brianfede
02-18-2012, 08:28
"T" Series Hi Powers are good ones to own. Right now, with the bid at $750, it is at an excellent price. I could see it going for as much as $900, maybe $1000 if someone is really hungry for it. That is based on what I can see from the condition in the pics provided. These are very desireable Hi Powers. I would love to have a beautiful "T" Series in my collection someday.


Look at pic#11. That mark on the barrel is that a concern?

I was also looking at:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction
/ViewItem.aspx?Item=273480020

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=273591365


Is hammer bite a concern with these?

jrs93accord
02-18-2012, 08:56
Look at pic#11. That mark on the barrel is that a concern?

I was also looking at:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction
/ViewItem.aspx?Item=273480020

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=273591365


Is hammer bite a concern with these?

The Mark III is nice, but I prefer the "T" Series. The main reason is the hammer. You do not get the hammer bite with the round spurred hammer. The Mark III hammer can be a nuisance for larger hands, therefore resulting in hammer bite.

As far as the mark on the barrel on the "T" Series, I would not be concerned.

bac1023
02-18-2012, 08:59
Is hammer bite a concern with these?

I don't get bit by the Hi-Power, whether it has a spurred hammer or not.

I have relatively small hands though.

Haldor
02-19-2012, 19:32
I guess you are not a revolver fan?

They are a totally different yet equally appealing addiction.

No Bac don't care none for them obsolete useless wheel guns. Not a bit.:rofl:

You have got to see his Python collection. It is breathtaking.

bac1023
02-19-2012, 21:00
You have got to see his Python collection. It is breathtaking.


Thanks Haldor.

Here they are. :)


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_1551.jpg

Haldor
02-20-2012, 12:49
Thanks Haldor.

Here they are. :)


http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr97/briancut1023/000_1551.jpg

I think I may have gotten a pavlovian conditioned response. I start drooling whenever I see pink carpet.

Ok, enough leg humping.

bac1023
02-20-2012, 18:43
I think I may have gotten a pavlovian conditioned response. I start drooling whenever I see pink carpet.

Ok, enough leg humping.

:rofl::rofl:

Morgo
02-24-2012, 17:52
I'll believe it when I see it Bac :)

bac1023
02-24-2012, 19:55
I'll believe it when I see it Bac :)

That's a deal, my friend. :)

Morgo
02-24-2012, 19:56
lol :)

AustinTx
02-24-2012, 20:00
More 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation Smith & Wesson autos - I'm talking a 39 (which I can't believe I don't own yet), a 645, and 745, a 4506, and an older Performance Center model.

bac1023, I think you are onto some under appreciated guns and aren't priced as high as they deserve to be. Don't forget the 59, first US made high cap.

Cole125
02-24-2012, 20:18
:animlol:

I didn't say I was done with firearms, but I plan to be done with handguns. :cool:

Yeah then you can start collecting rifles and shotguns. :cool:

bac1023
02-24-2012, 20:20
bac1023, I think you are onto some under appreciated guns and aren't priced as high as they deserve to be. Don't forget the 59, first US made high cap.

Already have a 59 :supergrin:

AustinTx
02-25-2012, 13:51
Already have a 59 :supergrin:

Why am I not surprised?

Now that you have announced your future collection intentions, the price of S&W 1st, 2nd & 3rd gen auto pistols has already doubled, I think.:cool:

Spiffums
02-25-2012, 14:03
a 4506

You going to play a bad/dirty cop on a TV show or movie? :rofl:

bac1023
02-25-2012, 18:00
Why am I not surprised?

Now that you have announced your future collection intentions, the price of S&W 1st, 2nd & 3rd gen auto pistols has already doubled, I think.:cool:

:rofl::rofl:

bac1023
02-25-2012, 18:01
You going to play a bad/dirty cop on a TV show or movie? :rofl:

:animlol:

bac1023
02-25-2012, 18:02
Yeah then you can start collecting rifles and shotguns. :cool:

Maybe a few ;)

PrecisionRifleman
02-25-2012, 20:27
I've also decided I'm done adding polymer pistols. I think the next item on my list is a S&W 44 magnum hunter.

Stubudd
02-26-2012, 03:33
I've got your perfect west german p228. I'm pretty partial to it though. :embarassed:

bac1023
02-26-2012, 07:05
I've got your perfect west german p228. I'm pretty partial to it though. :embarassed:

I dpn't blame you.

The P225 and P228 are the first two I want. I'm not as concerned about the P226 or P229.