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runcible68
02-16-2012, 23:15
I fear that Doomsday Preppers is making a laughingstock out of people who are "sensible preppers." And that begs us to ask two very interesting questions. What is sensible prepping and what is driving the behavior of the people on this show?

Sensibility? Now every one needs to make their own risk assessments based on where they live. That's fine. Live in a flood area? Nuke plant? Bad weather can seal you up for a week? That's all very sensible to prepare for. But what the people on this TV show are doing is preparing for the improbable. Not the impossible mind you, but the improbable. And herein lies the catch. You can't say with 100% certitude that whatever calamity these people fear won't happen. And very often people like this think that's the answer that justifies their behavior. NatGeo may be failing to portray "typical preppers" but they're smart to lay out the odds against the Armageddon these people fear. Super Volcanos? EMP? Nuclear war? Crazy deadly flu? Hyperinflation? All unlikely. But you can't say it won't ever happen. A black hole could wander into our solar system and screw us all up, but the odds are, forgive the pun, astronomical. Sure, they'll say, "Noah was the first prepper! And they all thought he was nuts." My reply to that - you have delusions of grandeur.

Motivation? Judging from what I've seen of the program most of the people on it are suffering from a type of mental problem. Don't roll your eyes just yet. Look at the facts that came from their own mouths. The liquor for trade guy said he spent $400 a week on preps. Another guy, the one with the bunker in Utah, said he doesn't do sports or hobbies anymore. He just runs constant risk assessments. Somebody else said they spent well over $10000 on preps in a couple of years! For most of these people, prepping is an all-consuming passion. If the show is to be believed at face value, these people spend and awful lot of time doing it! And what the program has not shown us is the social cost some of these people are paying for their activities. Notice how some family photos were blurred? Sure, some of the digitally scrambled might be a secret black operator somewhere, but I think the some of them are just embarrassed. Who have these preppers driven away? Not sheeple, but real people who think they are plum crazy?

If you look at questionnaires that mental health professionals use to screen for addictions, just remove "gambling" "sex" "drugs" or "booze" and insert "prepping. Here's a checklist I cobbled together using one from Gambler's Anonymous.

1) Has prepping ever made your home life unhappy?

2) Has prepping affected your reputation?

3) Have you ever felt remorse after prepping?

4) After a prepping shopping trip, did you have a strong urge to return and buy more more? Just gotta get one more flashlight!

5) Have you ever sold anything to finance prepping?

6) Were you reluctant to use "prepping money" for normal expenditures?

7) Have you ever prepped longer than you had planned? (Like using all your free time? Your vacation?)

8) Have you ever prepped to escape worry, trouble, boredom or loneliness?

9) Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act with regards to prepping? I'll leave this one for the tactical guys.

10) Does prepping get in the way of activities you once enjoyed? (I took that one from a depression checklist, but it applies here as well.)

Many of the people on Doomsday Preppers are addicts. Prepping can be an addiction. I worked in mental health for years and, let me tell you, people can get addicted to anything - throwing up, cutting oneself, the Internet, porn - you name it. And it can happen with preppers too. And in some respects pathological prepping is very similar to hoarding. Hoarders amass inordinate amounts of stuff as a sort of buffer against psychological pain - as if the piles of food, clothing, furniture (Or dogs, cats, birds!) they surround themselves with can keep bad things from happening. And, when you try and get a hoarder to part with an item, they’ll often cringe saying, “I may need that one day.” For a day that will probably never come. That's delusional thinking - so we’ve come back full circle to sensibility. Part of delusional thinking is not being able apprehend reality as it is, like the odds of a thing happening and the level of one's response to that thing. And the overarching a hallmark of a hoarder? When you talk to them they come across as rational people. It's only when you shine a light on the negative consequences of their behavior (Or try and get into their house/bunker to check on them) that they flip out. Most of the people on the show sound rational, but some of their behaviors are not. And we've only seen carefully edited footage.

Having a relative who is a hoarder, I can say that her problem has repelled most of her friends and family to the point where she is now a very lonely and ill person. I fear some of the people on this show have, or are developing, serious problems.

Now some people have lots of stuff. That doesn’t make them hoarders. Some people play lotto. That doesn’t make them gambling addicts. Many of us prep, and most of us are probably very mentally healthy. But prepping has a dark side. And it’s good to stare that reality in the face.

nutty_one
02-16-2012, 23:59
I'd say having food and medical supplies on hand to ride out a long term natural disaster - earthquake, flood, wild fire - whatever is most common in your area - is sensible. We can look to Hurricane Katrina and it's aftermath to see why it might make sense - it was a long while before power, law & order, and sanitary services were back online in many places.

Here in the PNW - we're sitting on a major fault line that hasn't let go in a big way in a while - and the science types keep telling us we're over-due to get hit with something in the 6.0+ range - and where I live, that'd be devastating just about everywhere - our infrastructure isn't designed to handle something like that, and our civil servants probably don't get enough training, because it's not something that happens every few years like in L.A. - so it might be a little while before things are restored and cleaned up if we get hit with a big one.

I would say though - that a person should build their stock of preps in accordance with their income - spending 50% of what you take home each pay check on stuff to stock pile is crazy. I'm sure there's other things - rent, mortgage, utilities, bills, doctors visits, etc that probably need more financial attention for most folks.

Reasonable - to me - would be 6-9 months of stored food and typical medical supplies, and maybe bags of seeds for planting a garden for fresh veggies. Unemployment can be a disaster that can happen to any family at any time - and it's just as smart to have a stockpile of food & whatnot as it is to have 3-6 months of wages saved up and a fully funded retirement account. Having the spare supplies can make the job loss a lot easier - instead of having to buy food and band aids - the family can devote their unemployment (if they get it) toward keeping the roof over their heads.

Reality shows like Doomsday Preppers purposely try to find the fringe people - those who are just a tip toe from full on lunacy - because it makes for "good TV" - and it makes the normal people look like tards. Just like Sons of Guns makes gunsmiths and gun owners look like drama llamas with slack jaws and bad attitudes. They don't portray the average gun maker, custom shop, or gun owner in any reasonable light. It'd be pretty damn boring for most folks to watch Les Baer or Ed Brown or Robbie Barkmann do their deal, and thus the ratings would suffer.

I doubt most crab boats operate with the level of drama you'd see on the Cornelia Marie, and most logging operations aren't full of bickering and fighting like you see from Rygaard or S&S.

But most certainly, when it becomes an obsession, when it cuts into other areas of your life, when it drives away friends in numbers - it's out of hand. But I'd prefer NOT to see the government stepping in and saying "you have too much food, too many bandages, too many guns, too much ammo" and seize them and commit the person.

TangoFoxtrot
02-17-2012, 06:09
Doomsday Preppers & Pathological Prepping
Hey it is what it is. NGS will aire what ever they think will attract the viewers attention, whether its realistic or not.

Bilbo Bagins
02-17-2012, 08:33
I think SOME preppers are basically compulsive shoppers and hoarders.

I don't think its a function of being a prepper, its basically in the population of preppers you are going to have some that are compulsive, mental, and paranoid where prepping is their outlet. Some people can be compulsive with eating, buying shoes, clothing, car parts, and other stuff.

Well before prepping became popular gun nuts bought guns and outdoor nuts bought hiking gear and equipment in excess. Heck many of us probably had depression era relatives who hoarded/stored canned good in the basement.

I think it could become a problem with some people. I seen it on prepping sites all the time, usually with people spending well above their means. Can't protect yourself from a possible economic collapse when you are bankrupt from buying too much stuff. Also its a problem when you start hoarding stuff for no good reason. Letting food rot in 5 gallon buckets, buying 20 "handout" rifles even though you only have 10 friends & Family, and having a mountain of gear pile up collecting dust is simply STUPID. Your prepping hobby is now an anchor to your family's overall well being and survival.

Rumbler_G20
02-17-2012, 08:47
Not sheeple, but real people who think they are plum crazy?



Then there are those who feel they are competent to stand in judgement of others behavior when in fact they haven't a clue.

For instance, there are ONLY three types of people:

Sheep. Wolves. Sheepdogs. The sheepdogs look an awful lot like the wolves to the sheep, they have fangs and the capacity for violence. That makes the sheep think that there are only two types; Sheep like themselves (read: "real people") and wolves.

And lord knows that all wolves are abnormal. :upeyes:

runcible68
02-17-2012, 15:09
For instance, there are ONLY three types of people:

Sheep. Wolves. Sheepdogs. The sheepdogs look an awful lot like the wolves to the sheep, they have fangs and the capacity for violence. That makes the sheep think that there are only two types; Sheep like themselves (read: "real people") and wolves.

And lord knows that all wolves are abnormal. :upeyes:

I'm curious, and mean no disrespect, but do you really think people neatly fit into those categories? I've heard people say. "There are two kinds of people, leaders and followers." But people sometimes lead and sometimes are led, like in the military. So, there are people who, at various times in their lives might be a sheep, sheepdog and, occasionally a wolf.
Myself, I've always seem the whole "sheepdog" thing as kind of simplistic and Disneyesque, but I'm open to being educated. :)

G29Reload
02-17-2012, 15:16
Reality shows like Doomsday Preppers purposely try to find the fringe people - those who are just a tip toe from full on lunacy - because it makes for "good TV" - and it makes the normal people look like tards. Just like Sons of Guns makes gunsmiths and gun owners look like drama llamas with slack jaws and bad attitudes.

I saw the worst of it the other night…American Guns? Jesus.

Nothing to do with reality. Totally scripted 'tard drama, gunshop with shallow clown, wife with fake rack and collagen injected fake lips and stupid attitude complete with daughter along for the ride, argument over female customers desire for pink gun and a family celebration of marital anniversary finished off with a target shoot of a flower vase full of roses and champagne glasses. Couldnt make up how repulsive and shallow it was.

Lionhill
02-17-2012, 15:29
I would not be surprised to learn if these were paid actors and the entire show scripted. As a prepper, most people who consider me a friend or neighbour have no idea about what I have or store.

It's a liability at a time when you need no liabilities.

The show makes me feel embarrassed for those involved. I cannot and will not watch it ever again.

LH

Atomic Punk
02-17-2012, 15:45
i would love to have the money to go way overboard on prepping. my wife and best friend really enjoy camping, and a lot of that stuff hits camping/prepping.

and you never know what the preps will be used for. my wife recently got fired ( lying customers ) and a lot of our stored food preps are coming in handy.

TN.Frank
02-17-2012, 15:49
My mom use to can lots of stuff from the garden every year. We've still got a lot of Mason and Ball canning jars(call em' jars but they're glass, ya'll know what I'm talking about) under the house in storage. Guess that kind of made her a "Prepper" of sorts. I think it's always a good idea to have some food and water put back "just in case". You never can tell what's going to happen in the future and if nothing does then fine, we'll add the stuff we've put back to our normal food supply but if something DOES happen it'll be nice to be able to have something to eat.

eracer
02-17-2012, 15:55
I carry a gun every day because I want to be prepared in the unlikely event that I will need to use it to defend my life, or the lives of others, from a criminal intent on doing me mortal harm.

Doomsday prepping is the same thing, except that it requires more commitment. And for some, who prep for the EXTREMELY unlikely, it requires a level of commitment that I am unwilling to make.

For me, prepping is a way to survive into a world that I want to live in. For the doomsdayers, they want to survive into a world I don't believe I'd want to live in.

As for them making other, less extreme, preppers look 'bad'...

I think most intelligent folks have speculated on the possibility that the S could H the F. Most of them don't want to take the time to do any prepping, instead adopting the 'It probably won't happen' attitude.

But most people also admire a certain amount of preparedness in others, and recognize that there is a continuum of prepping, just like there is a continuum in most things in life.

kirgi08
02-17-2012, 16:37
We'd rather have it not need it as ta the reverse.'08.

NDCent
02-17-2012, 17:17
The show only makes us happy we've kept our prepping mostly to ourselves. A couple of very close friends and family members know we prep, and they don't know exactly to what extent. No, we're not over the top by almost any means. But, to some that continue to live above their means so they can have the latest and greatest gadgets, I guess we could be. You have to make a choice in what you're comfortable with. Although I'm glad people don't naturally think of me when they see those type shows, I could really give a rats arse either way in the long run. :tongueout:

vtbluegrass
02-17-2012, 17:25
Organization and value of items is about all that separates "Hoarders" from "Preppers" when it comes to TV and I would say several of those TV preppers are indeed compulsive.

Also I make no claims of being in great shape but about half of those preppers need to prepare to fight coronary disease and not the end times.

17119jfkioe
02-17-2012, 17:38
I'm curious, and mean no disrespect, but do you really think people neatly fit into those categories? I've heard people say. "There are two kinds of people, leaders and followers." But people sometimes lead and sometimes are led, like in the military. So, there are people who, at various times in their lives might be a sheep, sheepdog and, occasionally a wolf.
Myself, I've always seem the whole "sheepdog" thing as kind of simplistic and Disneyesque, but I'm open to being educated. :)


Great post! Always felt the same way, just couln't articulate it as well as you.:thumbsup:

Lone Kimono
02-17-2012, 17:41
Prepping can be a fun hobby, but if consumes your life to the point you aren't enjoying life (and the good times we are currently blessed with) it's a problem.

Jake514
02-17-2012, 17:44
My money spent prepping could be spend on a lot worse habits or things.

I certainly am no saint and have plenty of bad habits to spend my money on just the same as many other peers. My money spent on reasonable prepping makes me feel slightly easier (but not relaxed or satisfied and still a long ways to go) and provides a sense of some assurance and independence and knowing at least it is a step in the right direction.

kirgi08
02-17-2012, 18:50
I'll give an example,If you lost your job tomorrow how long could you feed your family? While paying a mortgage/insert debt here.

Folks,I started my preps in the 80s when I was unemployed and was hungry.I spent months living off rice and garlic salt.I decided that will never happen again.We got grub,more important we have the ability ta grow our own.'08.

glocked1
02-17-2012, 19:33
That show is hilarious!

farmer-dave
02-17-2012, 19:41
Good post op. Definitely good to reflect on balance in our lives.

GAU-8
02-18-2012, 01:48
I will only say I enjoyed watching the show. I also did learn a few things and got some ideas. No I wouldn't go to that extreme but hey it's the people that take things to the extreme that blaze the trail and teach other people how to be effective in moderation. Same principle applies nearly everywhere. For example, it's on the race track where cars are built to the "extreme" going 200 plus MPH where we learn how to build them more safely and better at 60 MPH. It's the fanatical body builders that work out and build 21 inch arms that have taught the recreational weight trainer to be effective in moderation. I feel the same towards some of these preppers.

G29Reload
02-18-2012, 12:13
Just saw the episode Bullets, Lots of Bullets.

Interesting.

I do think they focused on the outliers.

The Texas people, well, the compound while effective in ways seems to be white trashy.

Their prepping seems overboard. 20 years of food seems to be predicated on a really ridiculous level of event that you might not want to survive anyway.

The thing about the magnetic pole flip is nonsense. Even if it happens, nothing will change the continents, earths orbit or produce earthquakes. Their judgement here is where they kind go ff the reservation. Building around nonsense they have no clue about and won't happen.

On the plus side:

Organizational skills are outstanding.

The methane harvesting, piped to an actual stove is …awesome. There's something you could start a company around. Pipe your own gas from a septic hold? That's thinking on your toes.

With those kind of resources, I'd be emphasizing bugging in and defending, not bugging out.

The Texas girl…man I'd team up with her in a heartbeat. Good mindset. But I would not be in downtown Houston. The kill-the-cat in case of emergency thing kinda bothered me. I'd try to save one of em, at least.

the LA guy with his foraging, there's making the most of your surroundings.


No one will ever make segment on me.

First, I wouldnt do it. First rule of survival club…

2nd, I'm too normal. I prep reasonably. The G&A I own ANYWAY, hunt, self defense, target shooting…didnt have to get anything special.

The food I store, I eat anyway. Since most packaged stuff has a 2-3 yr shelf life, if I stay rotated, I just have a big pantry with a yrs supply.

Already a HAM radio operator.

I have a tub full of above average FA supplies.

I live on a well, so having at least a months supply of bottled water only makes sense.

I integrate preps to hum quietly in the background supporting ordinary, everyday life and not interfering with it.

But that doesn't make for good TV. :cool:

mac66
02-18-2012, 14:12
First, the are "doomsday" preppers which in itself puts them at the fringe of the prepping community. Even the government tells us to prep now so it in itself it not outside the mainstream. Doomsday? Yeah, a bit out there.

Second, I agree with the OP to some extent. If you look at the people they present, all seem to have something they are trying to compensate for. The woman in Utah who is the queen of food for example. She has made food her life. She is surrounded by it. It is her avocation, her social status, her lifestyle, it is how she measures her self worth. It is how she controls her environment and her husband. She is overweight and uses food as compensation for something. No children perhaps? Compulsive personality maybe?

The disabled truck driver in Tennessee is another example. His doomsday is that he is morbidly obese. I don't think it a stretch to suggest that he is trying to deal with his inability to deal with his health problems by doing something he feels he has some control over. Prepping for even something as intangible as the end of the world is better than waiting to die of heart disease.

I think you could probably analyze all of these people and find some underlying and perhaps subconscious motivation. The girl in Houston living with her boyfriend...relationship problems perhaps, insecurity? The family ranch guy in Colorado...control issues maybe? I didn't see the others but I would bet you could find something similar.

Does that make them bad people? I don't think so. Could they better use their time and money in better, more productive efforts? Perhaps.

I've been prepping since Jimmy Carter was elected president. However, prepping not only including preparing for disasters that were likely to happen but also for the future. That future included financial and retirement planning. The world didn't end back then and it won't end now. Prepping isn't just about surviving, it is about living life to the fullest.

ancient_serpent
02-18-2012, 14:49
I fear that Doomsday Preppers is making a laughingstock out of people who are "sensible preppers." And that begs us to ask two very interesting questions. What is sensible prepping and what is driving the behavior of the people on this show?


I agree; far too many people think that buying things alone is prepping. I'd rather learn skills than have stuff.
But, as others have already said, that wouldn't make for good tv. No one wants to watch me practicing flint knapping, checking the air pressure in our vehicle tires or learning more about diversifiying our investments.

RMTactical
02-18-2012, 16:41
I disagree. Preppers will always be seen by the world in general as looney to some degree, just as in the same way, gun owners are villainized by those that do not see the need/purpose or are barred from owning guns themselves.

Everyone has a different definition and/or purpose for prepping as well. For some, it's religious, others it is inevitable based on the route our economy is headed, for some it is sensible preparation for natural disasters, and some are just flat out paranoid/pessimistic, or even some combination of all of the above. Therefore, everyone's degree of preparation will vary.

That said, it's TV. They arent going to show you the guy who has a modest BOB, some guns, a small garden, and a 3-6 month supply of food but other than that lives a fairly normal life compared to those around them. That doesnt draw ratings very well.

GAU-8
02-18-2012, 17:39
I agree; far too many people think that buying things alone is prepping. I'd rather learn skills than have stuff.
But, as others have already said, that wouldn't make for good tv.

Have you even watched the show? These people aren't just buying stuff dude. Some of them are testing stuff and running actual bug out drills on a regular basis. The girl in Houston put on her BOB and set out hiking to her location in a live test. The people in Texas ran a full scale timed bug out with all vehicles, animals, and all equipment. The guy and family that shot his thumb in an AD run full bug out drills to their remote location. The guy in LA whose bug out equipment is very minimal probably has more actual survival skills than 90% of the people on this forum. Most of the people that have guns are shown SHOOTING THEM, which is more than I think a lot of people on these boards can claim.

Some of those shown on the show are a bit extreme but they are certainly practicing what they preach.

malleable
02-18-2012, 22:25
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ancient_serpent
02-19-2012, 03:31
Have you even watched the show? These people aren't just buying stuff dude. Some of them are testing stuff and running actual bug out drills on a regular basis. The girl in Houston put on her BOB and set out hiking to her location in a live test. The people in Texas ran a full scale timed bug out with all vehicles, animals, and all equipment. The guy and family that shot his thumb in an AD run full bug out drills to their remote location. The guy in LA whose bug out equipment is very minimal probably has more actual survival skills than 90% of the people on this forum. Most of the people that have guns are shown SHOOTING THEM, which is more than I think a lot of people on these boards can claim.

Some of those shown on the show are a bit extreme but they are certainly practicing what they preach.

Wow, hold up a second. I didn't mean any insult to the show or the people depicted. I was commenting on the sentences I qouted as well as the hoarder mentality and not getting that confused with prep work.
Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I thought, my apologies.

mac66
02-19-2012, 09:41
Well the show is called "Doomsday Preppers" not "Everyday People Who Like To Be Prepared". You are unlikely to see the average prepper on this show. They aren't interesting enough to be on TV.

The good thing about the "doomers" on this show is at least they aren't 'End of the World Cultists' with a suicide pact types.

GAU-8
02-19-2012, 10:26
Wow, hold up a second. I didn't mean any insult to the show or the people depicted. I was commenting on the sentences I qouted as well as the hoarder mentality and not getting that confused with prep work.
Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I thought, my apologies.


Agree, and I do apologize for abrasive sounding reply.

I agree with the OP to the extent that most of these people are a little excessive by most standards but I don't think they are making a mockery of anyone that likes to be prepared. I think there is a little mockery of THEM going on in the prep community.

Anyway catch the show if you get a chance if you have not already. There is usually a lot to be learned from people that take anything to the extreme as they are more often than not the trail blazers for the rest of us.

lawman800
02-21-2012, 04:17
I am a rank amateur on prepping hardcore but I know if there is a doomsday event and I survive it, I will not want to just give up and think it's not worth continuing or surviving like Charlize Theron in The Road. I will want to live.

Bilbo Bagins
02-21-2012, 08:14
That said, it's TV. They arent going to show you the guy who has a modest BOB, some guns, a small garden, and a 3-6 month supply of food but other than that lives a fairly normal life compared to those around them. That doesnt draw ratings very well.

+1

Hoarding shows would not get ratings if the person was reasonable, agreed they had too much stuff and it only took 10 minutes to tiddy up the house.

COPS would not be interesting, if no one ran or resisted arrest.

Reality shows would be boring if no one argured, fought, got sloppy drunk, or "hooked up".

Interviewing average prepper who have modest preps, and average life, and is not spouting off lunitic rantings would get kind of boring.

lawman800
02-21-2012, 09:26
Imagine that... a prepping show where the average guy shows you his 5 packs of MRE's, 2 sleeping bags, some shotgun ammo, and a tent... and he's done in 2 minutes. Then you'll be sitting there like WTF?

ancient_serpent
02-21-2012, 09:37
Agree, and I do apologize for abrasive sounding reply.

I agree with the OP to the extent that most of these people are a little excessive by most standards but I don't think they are making a mockery of anyone that likes to be prepared. I think there is a little mockery of THEM going on in the prep community.

Anyway catch the show if you get a chance if you have not already. There is usually a lot to be learned from people that take anything to the extreme as they are more often than not the trail blazers for the rest of us.

No worries, I thought I may have sounded harsher than I meant, as well. :cheers:

mac66
02-21-2012, 09:43
Imagine that... a prepping show where the average guy shows you his 5 packs of MRE's, 2 sleeping bags, some shotgun ammo, and a tent... and he's done in 2 minutes. Then you'll be sitting there like WTF?

WHAT? You call that prepping??? That's not even a weekend camping trip. YOU GONNA DIE! :rofl:

Aceman
02-22-2012, 09:09
I consider myself a prepper. I have a PhD in Psychology (although not a therapist).

I concur - most of those people on that show are batshirt crazy in some way.

Crazy does make for good TV though. I understand the difference between commitment and compulsion, and possible vs likely, blah blah blah.

Like I say about all of these shows - they raise some issues, and allow me to discuss/consider what I see relative to my own needs.

I know a lot of what people prep for needs to be chosen from a large menu of possible items, and that you can't be ready for everything.

I use Pandemic woman as a great example of an anxiety ridden whack job. She has what is likely innadequate gear, she isn't really trained to use it from what I can tell, and she is so focussed on one thing she has ignored the obvious: Pandemic Rule #1, don't go out in a Pandemic. That requries food and water more than anything. Enough food and water, and I don't even NEED an n95 or gloves. And some critters, depending on the vector of transmission, will get you anyway (notice how she didn't use the word vector?).

Aceman
02-22-2012, 09:10
Imagine that... a prepping show where the average guy shows you his 5 packs of MRE's, 2 sleeping bags, some shotgun ammo, and a tent... and he's done in 2 minutes. Then you'll be sitting there like WTF?

That's not even a good bug out bag show! :rofl:

mac66
02-22-2012, 09:25
I consider myself a prepper. I have a PhD in Psychology (although not a therapist).

I concur - most of those people on that show are batshirt crazy in some way.

Crazy does make for good TV though. I understand the difference between commitment and compulsion, and possible vs likely, blah blah blah.

Like I say about all of these shows - they raise some issues, and allow me to discuss/consider what I see relative to my own needs.

I know a lot of what people prep for needs to be chosen from a large menu of possible items, and that you can't be ready for everything.

I use Pandemic woman as a great example of an anxiety ridden whack job. She has what is likely innadequate gear, she isn't really trained to use it from what I can tell, and she is so focussed on one thing she has ignored the obvious: Pandemic Rule #1, don't go out in a Pandemic. That requries food and water more than anything. Enough food and water, and I don't even NEED an n95 or gloves. And some critters, depending on the vector of transmission, will get you anyway (notice how she didn't use the word vector?).

Is "batshirt crazy" one of those fancy scientific terms you PhDs use? :supergrin:

In "Pandemic Woman's" defense, she is a Mormon, as is the Food lady from a previous episode. Mormons are into prepping. It is obvious that her business is putting together and selling kits which explains all the supplies she has. She obviously has to practice what she preaches. It also appeared to me that she was quite prepared to stay put and wait out a pandemic.

I also believe that the way the show is edited contributes to the impression that these people are nuts. For example, they show her cleaning her house obsessively where it is likely that they told her to "clean your house like you would do in a pandemic". It is also likely that the drill she did with her family was for the cameras.

I thought the Food Lady who has a house full of food was crazy obsessive until I realized that it is her business.

I also noticed that a lot of other people on the show are in the business so it makes sense for them to push the extreme end.

And again, editing is done in a way to make it look more dramatic and crazy than it is.

ICARRY2
02-22-2012, 09:38
Last night 2/21/12 was probably the worst one yet. The truck driver/retired leo prepping from his rig? The woman who is a germaphob is a flake.

The guy moving from FL to TN worried about flooding? Seriously, WTF!

I hope natgeo reads what we and others say about the show. It could be good, but will be short lived if they continue on like this.