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Glockguy514
02-17-2012, 16:06
Hi all, I just wanted some input on this matter. I'm a LEO and looking for a back up to my G21sf. I was thinking of going with the G19 but carrying another caliber wouldn't make sense unless I go with a G17 for duty use. Thanks for your input.

homersapien
02-17-2012, 16:14
I'd keep it simple and get a G30. Same caliber, interchangeable mags.

G36shooter
02-17-2012, 16:18
No brainer, G30. Same ammo and you can use the G21 mags.

DannyII
02-17-2012, 16:22
I'm not a LEO, but staying with the same caliber for ammo/mag commonality makes perfect sense to me. Why complicate things with another caliber?

Sonnytoo
02-17-2012, 16:28
I own and carry Glocks in both calibers, but you already know the answer. A Glock 30 makes good sense, although I MUCH prefer the G36 Slimline .45. It is RELIABLE, in my experience, with any commercial ammo like Winchester, Hornady, GoldDots, and the like. It does NOT like SWC reloads and will not feed one about once in every mag.
For a backup, you would likely be happier with the G36, as it is totally reliable, a thinner slide (like the 9mm's), and holds 6+1 which should do you okay.
I finally sold my G30 as the slide was too "fat" for me to carry IWB.
The G36 carries just as nicely as a G19.
best regards,
Sonny

tinman517
02-17-2012, 16:33
Try a 30SF. You will definitely like it.

SCSU74
02-17-2012, 17:48
i go back and forth with this as well. I carried a 30 in a 5.11 push pack with 4 extra loaded mags and recently switched to a 19 in the same pack with 4 extra mags as well. I like the 19 a lot better, its lighter/thinner/easier to shoot one handed/holds more bullets. But who knows maybe ill go back to the 30 next month :)

Brad55102
02-17-2012, 17:50
What makes a good BUG?
1. it must be SMALL, the smaller the better!!!!
look at the G26, G27 or G30 w/o extension

2 always use the same caliber

JTSmith
02-17-2012, 17:56
36 sure would be easier to carry......

Bruce M
02-17-2012, 18:00
In theory a secondary gun of the same caliber as your primary gun seems like the best choice. In practice if you are more likely to carry something smaller/lighter then that will be the best choice if leaving the bigger one at home that day might have happened. If ther G30 is always going to be with you then its the best choice in my opinion. If not a G26 or J frame that is with you is best.

bac1023
02-17-2012, 18:04
For size purposes, I'd go with a G26/G27/G33.

Slug71
02-17-2012, 18:05
G37 and G39...

Nutt51
02-17-2012, 19:33
If I were going for a hideaway gun in 9mm, I would go with a G26. That being said, if I were wanting to stay with the same caliber as my duty weapon, I would go with a G30SF. A G36 is narrower and lighter but doesn't use the same mags as a G21, so it's either carry 2 different mags, or use the G30, which would allow you to use the same mags and ammo as your G21.
Best of luck, and stay safe. These are just my opinions.

TxGlock9
02-17-2012, 19:40
36 nuff said.

Birddog9
02-17-2012, 20:05
I myself have been trying to decide what I like carrying better on the vest. My .38 wasn't bad and I bought a PF-9 to try but the cheap uncle mike holster sucks. So I'm leaning towards gathering funds for a 36 and having a kydex/Velcro backed holster made for it so I can wear on the vest with confidence.

Glock Master
02-17-2012, 22:39
The G30 or G36.

WarEagle32
02-17-2012, 22:51
I hate to echo but the 30 is way more practical for you situation. However, my 19 is the best Glock that I have ever owned and I have owned 9 of them. So I would think about the 19 for sure. The Gen 4 19 is the best Glock made.

CTfam
02-17-2012, 23:05
Switch to all 9mm.

Slug71
02-18-2012, 00:19
36 nuff said.

I myself have been trying to decide what I like carrying better on the vest. My .38 wasn't bad and I bought a PF-9 to try but the cheap uncle mike holster sucks. So I'm leaning towards gathering funds for a 36 and having a kydex/Velcro backed holster made for it so I can wear on the vest with confidence.

The G30 or G36.

It would be silly for him to get a G36 since the mags ARE NOT interchangeable. Defeats the purpose....In that case he may as well go with the G19. Especially since its a whole lot better pistol than the G36.

The G36 is a POS IMO and the G30 is not far off. The 2 worst Glocks as far as im concerned. Owned a G36 and shot a G30.......

Both have an issue of pinkie pinching. The G36 has a lot of felt recoil, IMO, and both have more history of FTFs than any other Glock.

Slug71
02-18-2012, 00:20
Switch to all 9mm.

This or GAP.

Gray_Wolf
02-18-2012, 00:23
for a back up G36

schiffer99
02-18-2012, 00:29
Switch to all 9mm.

A lot of sense to this. A G17/G26 combo is just about perfect as the G17 is a great primary, while the G26 is still small enough for a BUG (ankle, vest, cargo pocket, etc...) and you'll have mags that are intechangeable.

Problem with G21 is that there really isn't a good mag interchangeable BUG as the G30 is a big gun. If you stick with the G21 I would branch out to other BUGS like a snubbie revolver, LCP or Kahr PM9.

G30Mike
02-18-2012, 00:50
It would be silly for him to get a G36 since the mags ARE NOT interchangeable. Defeats the purpose....In that case he may as well go with the G19. Especially since its a whole lot better pistol than the G36.

The G36 is a POS IMO and the G30 is not far off. The 2 worst Glocks as far as im concerned. Owned a G36 and shot a G30.......

Both have an issue of pinkie pinching. The G36 has a lot of felt recoil, IMO, and both have more history of FTFs than any other Glock.

I agree with the first part of your post about the G21 mags not being compatible with the G36, but.....

The last part of your post I'm going to have to disagree. I've had a G30SF and now have a regular G30, I've never had problems with either one of them. Both were flawless in the matter of malfunctions, and I shoot IDPA quite a bit. I don't have any experience with the G36, but I have heard some gripes about them.

TxGlock9
02-18-2012, 01:49
It would be silly for him to get a G36 since the mags ARE NOT interchangeable. Defeats the purpose....In that case he may as well go with the G19. Especially since its a whole lot better pistol than the G36.

The G36 is a POS IMO and the G30 is not far off. The 2 worst Glocks as far as im concerned. Owned a G36 and shot a G30.......

Both have an issue of pinkie pinching. The G36 has a lot of felt recoil, IMO, and both have more history of FTFs than any other Glock.
The only thing I'm going to disagree with is the glock 30/36 being the worst glocks. I never had any pinkie pinching issues, nor did I have any failures of any kind.

I do agree however with carrying the glock 19 over the 30/36. The only reason why I said 36 above is because he is already using 45acp.

Josh83
02-18-2012, 01:58
I say a 30 for vest carry. The weight difference is a non-issue considering all the weight of the vest alone. I don't know how many of you have worn a vest for 10 hours, but I don't see 15 ounces making a difference one way or another. Plus your mags are interchangeable. As far as how large the gun is, I IWB carry a 30 and it is no problem. On a vest it won't matter at all.

JTSmith
02-18-2012, 07:44
It would be silly for him to get a G36 since the mags ARE NOT interchangeable. Defeats the purpose....In that case he may as well go with the G19. Especially since its a whole lot better pistol than the G36.


Well technically, the 21 and 30 mags are not interchangeable. Only the 30 can use both. If you do use the 36, you are at least using the same ammo and the gun is wayyyy more comfortable to carry.


The G36 is a POS IMO and the G30 is not far off. The 2 worst Glocks as far as im concerned. Owned a G36 and shot a G30.......


I did have FTRTB's on my 30SF, but I don't know anyone who has trouble with standard 30. And I haven't shot every Glock model out there, but the 30 is the most accurate one I have shot. Oh and my 36 had one FTE in the first few rounds I fired. It's been fine since.

Both have an issue of pinkie pinching.

Never had the 30 pinch my pinky, but Pearce +0 generally fixes them on the 36. Simple fix for under $15.

The G36 has a lot of felt recoil, IMO,

Seriously? I thought the XTP 230gr +P had a little snap, the TAP 200gr +P was perfectly acceptable, and the Critical Defense 185gr and Federal 230gr were an absolute pleasure to shoot. Oh well, to each his own.

Bill Lumberg
02-18-2012, 08:42
If you're a police officer, post this in Coptalk, where you'll get the most responses from folks who know. That said, unless it's a .38 revolver, generally it's nice to have a backup weapon of the same caliber as your primary. What is you department policy on backup weapons?Hi all, I just wanted some input on this matter. I'm a LEO and looking for a back up to my G21sf. I was thinking of going with the G19 but carrying another caliber wouldn't make sense unless I go with a G17 for duty use. Thanks for your input.

BuckyP
02-18-2012, 09:24
Both have an issue of pinkie pinching. The G36 has a lot of felt recoil, IMO, and both have more history of FTFs than any other Glock.


That's going to greatly vary from shooter to shooter. The worst pinky pinch I ever got was from my GLOCK 19. Never had it on my G30, and I use factory mags (no aftermarket pads). :dunno:

SCSU74
02-18-2012, 12:28
Switch to all 9mm.

A few months ago I would have made some stupid remark about how only real men carry .45's. After shooting 2 qualifications with perfect scores and shooting several different drills designed around speed I am liking 9mm more and more. My 19 is a great pistol, just. It sure if I'll ever make the jump to a 17 and carry it for main duty pistol.


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SCSU74
02-18-2012, 12:30
I say a 30 for vest carry. The weight difference is a non-issue considering all the weight of the vest alone. I don't know how many of you have worn a vest for 10 hours, but I don't see 15 ounces making a difference one way or another. Plus your mags are interchangeable. As far as how large the gun is, I IWB carry a 30 and it is no problem. On a vest it won't matter at all.

Guess I have a different definition of back-up. For vest carry I have an air weight. For a back-up pistol I could use in the event my main pistol goes down I have a 19 in my bag. A 30 is way too big for a vest IMHO. Looks like a 3rd arm growing out haha


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