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KennyFSU
02-18-2012, 13:55
At least I think it's one of the older ones. It's a 9mm full size H-3 and was one of the original imports by KBI. Serial 00988X.

It's extremely ergonomic and fits nicely in my hand; almost like a mold. I have seen models that have a frame mounted decocker and I wish mine had that but it works just fine.

Does anyone know who makes sights for them? Mine looked pretty banged up and I'd even settle for new factory ones. I've never owned a 75b but I hear this is a close clone.

Onto the pics:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/LSntegra/Guns/fd47bae7.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/LSntegra/Guns/eca884e2.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/LSntegra/Guns/fa692004.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/LSntegra/Guns/2f1ac50a.jpg


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NG VI
02-18-2012, 14:02
Sexiest post I've seen in a very long time. Excellent photos, really showed everything I would want to see.

They were made by Tangfolio, so they should take Witness mags and are pretty similar to the 75s.

bac1023
02-18-2012, 14:05
Looks great

Congrats! :cool:

liberty911
02-18-2012, 14:55
Very cool!

Bruce M
02-18-2012, 17:50
Very interesting.

KennyFSU
02-18-2012, 19:24
Thanks fellas. The aftermarket is nonexistent for this gun but I knew that well before buying it. It's a great gun as-is, the only thing I'd want to upgrade is the sights.

Apparently it can also run 75b mags (although some may not lock on last round) so that's a benefit. Some major differences are that the 941 utilizes polygonal rifling and weighs a lot more (over 2 lbs!) but luckily this gun is strictly a range plinker.

It's funny because I used to own a lot more polymer guns but lately all I want are full steel ones lol.


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March817
02-18-2012, 21:16
Perhaps Meprolight.
http://www.meprolight.com/default.asp?catid=%7BB0C9A962-4395-4AD7-9408-20ABDFB79171%7D
I'd call first. The rear sights on my Charles Daly import look very different.

Javelin
02-18-2012, 21:18
Very good looking pistol! I have never seen one before.

:supergrin:

KennyFSU
02-18-2012, 21:45
Thanks March, I will have to contact them.

I'll have to shamefully admit that the first time I saw this gun it was featured as the main character's weapon of choice and I have been itching to own one since (Cowboy Bepop circa 2000 during college).

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/LSntegra/9933edd7.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/LSntegra/4623b4b6.jpg

The detail of the gun was amazing.


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FLIPPER 348
02-18-2012, 21:55
All the Russian security guys we had around were packing the compact 9 version.

Javelin
02-18-2012, 21:57
How much do these go for? I think I am interested in picking one up for my firearm collection.

RYT 2BER
02-18-2012, 22:52
Great. News OP! I love mine and I shoot it better than anything else.....

Simply an awesome gun.... period!

oldnoob
02-18-2012, 23:01
Congrats. I have been wanting to get one to match my CZ 75 and Star M30 line up.

oldnoob
02-18-2012, 23:05
Thanks fellas. The aftermarket is nonexistent for this gun but I knew that well before buying it. It's a great gun as-is, the only thing I'd want to upgrade is the sights.

Apparently it can also run 75b mags (although some may not lock on last round) so that's a benefit. Some major differences are that the 941 utilizes polygonal rifling and weighs a lot more (over 2 lbs!) but luckily this gun is strictly a range plinker.

It's funny because I used to own a lot more polymer guns but lately all I want are full steel ones lol.


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Not all Jericho has poly rifling. IIRC.

Lior
02-19-2012, 00:10
The frame safety version of this gun is standard issue in our police, and apart from weight, not too many complaints come up.

KennyFSU
02-19-2012, 07:45
MSRP is $649; I paid $550 used, from original owner.

Thanks for the correction oldnoob. Can't always trust Wiki afterall lol.

Lior, I've also read that, does the Israeli military issue it as well? Thanks for the info.

I wish I had the frame mounted version! The decocker on the slide protrudes a lot further out than my other guns; makes racking the slide a bit more painful as I have yet to find a comfortable hand position.


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Lior
02-19-2012, 08:23
Lior, I've also read that, does the Israeli military issue it as well? Thanks for the info.



Not as far as I know. There are few issued pistols in the IDF these days - mainly G19Cs and Sig 228s.

RYT 2BER
02-19-2012, 10:04
MSRP is $649; I paid $550 used, from original owner.



Holy $h%# please tell me you're kidding :faint:

Line Rider
02-19-2012, 10:09
MSRP is $649; I paid $550 used, from original owner.


Either way that's too much. I can buy a Glock 21 NIB for $550.00 at the my LGS. I was just looking at it Friday.

KennyFSU
02-19-2012, 10:19
Lol, that's great but I didn't want a G21, I've been looking for this particular pistol for a while now. They don't come up often here in Tampa at all.


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KennyFSU
02-19-2012, 10:31
I don't get your logic.

"Hey nice gun but for that price you could have bought X, Y, or Z."

Lol.


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Foxtrotx1
02-19-2012, 10:42
I like it. Doesn't matter what you paid for it if you enjoy it. Steel 9mm pistols are sexy as hell.

RYT 2BER
02-19-2012, 11:18
Lol, that's great but I didn't want a G21, I've been looking for this particular pistol for a while now. They don't come up often here in Tampa at all.


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I agree with you I have no idea what the relevance is to a g21.... My problem is that brand new ones can easily be bought for around $500. Msrp means nothing.. I don't mean to be disrespectful but that was a big over pay.

KennyFSU
02-19-2012, 11:36
I agree with you I have no idea what the relevance is to a g21.... My problem is that brand new ones can easily be bought for around $500. Msrp means nothing.. I don't mean to be disrespectful but that was a big over pay.

I understand where you're coming from. I tried haggling his asking price of $599 down to 500 but he wouldn't budge.

If someone wants something bad enough they will pay for it, which is exactly what I did lol. No regrets here though, I absolutely love this gun!

Thanks Fox, my sentiments exactly.

Plus having a decent tax refund helped out a little. ;)


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Stevekozak
02-19-2012, 11:46
Neat looking pistol. How does it shoot?

Line Rider
02-19-2012, 12:11
I didn't mean to make anyone mad. I mentioned the GL21 only because I had looked at it on Friday and it was about what Kenny gave for the Jericho. If he's happy with the gun that's all that matters.

KennyFSU
02-19-2012, 12:58
Neat looking pistol. How does it shoot?

Extremely accurate at 21 feet. Recoil is minimal and the sights are easy to adjust to. The controls are all within reach although I do have to slightly adjust my grip when releasing the mag.

I didn't mean to make anyone mad. I mentioned the GL21 only because I had looked at it on Friday and it was about what Kenny gave for the Jericho. If he's happy with the gun that's all that matters.

Not mad, just a little confused about your random interjection lol. Besides, I already have something in the .45 department. ;)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/LSntegra/Guns/8eb07664.jpg




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Murgatroy
02-19-2012, 13:06
Beautiful.

The Jercho 941 is the one gun I have a major weakness for. I know a guy that has the whole 941 kit (9mmx19 and .41AE barrel) I have been waiting on him to set a price on it for years. Even has a couple hundred .41AE brass.

I like the new versions Magnum Research is bringing in as well with the lower rail, but they are a beautiful piece in any variation as long as it is full size and steel.

RYT 2BER
02-19-2012, 17:49
Extremely accurate at 21 feet. Recoil is minimal and the sights are easy to adjust to. The controls are all within reach although I do have to slightly adjust my grip when releasing the mag.



Not mad, just a little confused about your random interjection lol. Besides, I already have something in the .45 department. ;)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b41/LSntegra/Guns/8eb07664.jpg

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Holy crap I have never seen that clear grip..omg that's insane!

RYT 2BER
02-19-2012, 17:53
Here's mine... it just flat out rocks... I wold suggest you check out hogues rubber wraparound grip.. I have it on mine and I love the way it feels even more (although this picture was before I put it on)

http://photomaxi.com/out.php/i27663_IMG20111213190632.jpg

KennyFSU
02-20-2012, 06:43
Thanks for the pic RYT, I assume that's the latest model of the 941 and I can make out a few minor differences like the name on the frame, rail, and grips (mine say IMI instead of IWI). They also package them in a better case as opposed to my cardboard box lol.

LSUAdman
02-20-2012, 08:39
Those are some nice looking pistols, guys. I looked at two of these several months ago and fell in love. Are there different versions of these, though? One I picked up was a polymer frame and one was a metal frame (I much prefered the metal framed one)

How do these shoot? What about magazine availability and cost?

KennyFSU
02-20-2012, 09:20
Thanks LSU, here is some more info:

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/isr/jericho-941-e.html

The steel framed ones are the way to go. I held a polymer one once and it did not have the same feel to it at all. As mentioned earlier, they are very accurate and easy to shoot. CZ 75b mags will work them as well but some experience a failure to lock back on last round (I have one factory mag and one CZ and both feed perfectly).

As for cost/availability, I still haven't found any places that sell them! Yikes lol.

RYT 2BER
02-20-2012, 11:52
As for cost/availability, I still haven't found any places that sell them! Yikes lol.

What are you looking for? Mags?

Kikon
02-20-2012, 12:15
Welcome to the Jericho Club & Congrats!!! Here you might try some Trijicon sights, but check if they might fit your pistol model:

http://www.opticsplanet.net/trijicon-desert-baby-eagle-jericho-night-sights-de03.html

Here's a pic of my Jericho 941 RPSL
http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/3991/p1210004.jpg

Enjoy,
David

KennyFSU
02-20-2012, 12:15
I currently have 2 (except 1 is a 75b mag and it occasionally has issues with locking the slide back on the last round), I say occasionally since it isn't consistent. It's only intended purpose is for plinking so I'm not too worried about it.

Did you find a place that sells them though?

EDIT: Thanks for the link dfussel, I definitely need some new sights but I'd prefer the non-night sight kind.
Nice polymer 941 too, is that the mid-sized frame?

March817
02-20-2012, 12:50
EAA Witness mags might work. Maybe try CDNN. That's where I got my Jericho .40 and Cherokee 9mm mags.

Kikon
02-20-2012, 13:04
I currently have 2 (except 1 is a 75b mag and it occasionally has issues with locking the slide back on the last round), I say occasionally since it isn't consistent. It's only intended purpose is for plinking so I'm not too worried about it.

Did you find a place that sells them though?

EDIT: Thanks for the link dfussel, I definitely need some new sights but I'd prefer the non-night sight kind.
Nice polymer 941 too, is that the mid-sized frame?

Hi Kenny, yep is the Semi-Compact Polymer version. I suggest this forum for 941's info: http://www.941forum.com
In there you will find all compatible mags (Mec-gar, Tanfoglio, Magnum Research, etc.) and where to buy them in USA. Also info in regards of sights might be there as well.
Enjoy,
David

RYT 2BER
02-20-2012, 13:05
of course magnum research has mags:

http://magnumresearch.com/Expand.asp?ProductCode=MAG915P

NG VI
02-20-2012, 14:34
I usually pick up mags from CDNN unless someone else has a great sale. They almost always have the best prices on them and have some really obscure mags too, plus they frequently have odd little deals and specials.

And they like to throw in little gifts like a cheap knife or flashlight, or glasses, it's never anything very expensive but it always feels good to get them.

KennyFSU
02-20-2012, 15:39
Hi Kenny, yep is the Semi-Compact Polymer version. I suggest this forum for 941's info: http://www.941forum.com
In there you will find all compatible mags (Mec-gar, Tanfoglio, Magnum Research, etc.) and where to buy them in USA. Also info in regards of sights might be there as well.
Enjoy,
David

Awesome, I will register right away, thanks.

of course magnum research has mags:

http://magnumresearch.com/Expand.asp?ProductCode=MAG915P

Duh Kenny, I should have searched there first lol. Although I see that they do not have a flush mount base plate and me being the picky bastard I am, would like all my mags to match.

EAA Witness mags might work. Maybe try CDNN. That's where I got my Jericho .40 and Cherokee 9mm mags.

I usually pick up mags from CDNN unless someone else has a great sale. They almost always have the best prices on them and have some really obscure mags too, plus they frequently have odd little deals and specials.

And they like to throw in little gifts like a cheap knife or flashlight, or glasses, it's never anything very expensive but it always feels good to get them.

I've always heard of CDNN but have yet to order anything from them yet. I believe I will make my first purchase there very soon. Thanks for the info all!



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Veedubklown
02-20-2012, 17:38
Yeah they really are a sweet pistol, congrats! I like the internal railing like the CZ, makes the felt recoil very light. I grabbed it by the decocker levers to rack it, great SA trigger. Didn't like the DA though. Awesome grip, with the hogues.

RYT 2BER
02-20-2012, 17:44
Never fear they have the flush bottom ones:

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand.asp?ProductCode=MAG915

:supergrin:

Tenbones748
02-20-2012, 17:53
For magazines your best bet is to check out Magnum Research, current importers of the current IWI Baby Eagle {new version of the Jericho 941}. And for accessories, including holsters try zahal.org and israeli-weapons.com. Enjoy your very nice IMI Jericho 941. I've been hunting for one myself, also due to Spike from Cowboy Beebop. :)


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Spiffums
02-20-2012, 17:57
If you have trouble finding sights you might could get some for the Baby Eagle and have a smith mod them. Magazines might be the same as well but I'm not sure.

Kikon
02-20-2012, 19:47
I currently have 2 (except 1 is a 75b mag and it occasionally has issues with locking the slide back on the last round), I say occasionally since it isn't consistent. It's only intended purpose is for plinking so I'm not too worried about it.

Did you find a place that sells them though?

EDIT: Thanks for the link dfussel, I definitely need some new sights but I'd prefer the non-night sight kind.
Nice polymer 941 too, is that the mid-sized frame?

BTW, I do have a couple of the 75B mags, and one had a similar problem (FTL the slide). I've noted that the follower had a little tip of plastic missing which was the one lifting the slide lock lever when emptying the mag. I ordered few CZ followers from http://www.czcustom.com and the problem was solved as soon as I put the new follower in the problematic mag.
Cheers,
David

KennyFSU
02-21-2012, 13:06
I like the factory grips just fine, the gun feels really good and solid with a good grip on it. I'm not a fan of the long DA trigger but in SA it's a dream.

Ah, very cool, thanks RYT.

Thanks for the sources tenbones and good luck in your search!

I've noticed the same "follower issue" on my 75b mag as well, thanks Kikon!

Veedubklown
02-21-2012, 15:18
I like the factory grips just fine, the gun feels really good and solid with a good grip on it. I'm not a fan of the long DA trigger but in SA it's a dream.

Ah, very cool, thanks RYT.

Thanks for the sources tenbones and good luck in your search!

I've noticed the same "follower issue" on my 75b mag as well, thanks Kikon!

The hogue grips can be had for super cheap, and they're definately worth a try. You'd be suprised what your missing, IMO.

hogship
02-21-2012, 18:44
http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL431/781008/1425902/199724917.jpg

I have a later version, but essentially the same as the Jericho. This one is IMI, made before it was IWI. Mine isn't polygon rifling, but a great shooter. Very heavy, but that's why it's such a nice range gun. Original magazines are supposed to be 15 rounds, but all mine hold and function fine with 17 rounds. Look at Glock 17 holsters.....I have several G17 holsters that are a perfect fit!

This "Baby Eagle", or Desert Eagle 9mm is a favorite of my oldest son, and he has asked that it becomes his someday........it will!

ooc

KennyFSU
02-23-2012, 08:01
If I come across a cheap set of Hogues then I will try them out, thanks for the suggestion.

Nice pic hogship, so you have a newer one W/O poly rifling, interesting. I wonder why they stopped that process. Maybe there was no difference in accuracy or something.

I also notice that my mags held more than 15 as well, but then again I remember reading on another site that had the mags were rated to hold 17 rounds.

Regardless, it's been a great gun so far and I'm very happy with my purchase.

Kikon
02-23-2012, 17:09
Hi Kenny, in regards of different Jericho models and mag capacities, I suggest reading the following .pdf by IWI:

http://www.israel-weapon.com/files/brochure_2012/IWI_JERICHO_Pistols.pdf

Enjoy!,
David