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Schrag4
02-21-2012, 22:33
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/21/gun-rights-groups-decry-proposed-surtax-on-illinois-ammo-sales/?test=latestnews

Basically they say that the tax would help pay for trauma centers in "high crime areas."

Glad I don't live there.

Angry Fist
02-21-2012, 22:36
That ain't right.

mongo356
02-22-2012, 01:10
Just remember where the current president is from, you can only mfg that kind of reasoning in Illinois. The bill is the brain child and being pushed by current mayor Emanuel.
Don't see the reasoning for it considering 75% of the people are on public aid medical card and don't pay medical bills anyway.

Make no mistake this entire state is a complete mess and doesn't seem to be making any choices to correct it.

Tallahassee
02-22-2012, 01:34
It's really a bad time to live in Illinois. Quinn seems hell bent on running businesses out of state, and then wonders why unemployment levels are so high. And Rahm has taken it upon himself to make gun laws for the entire state. Aside from this one, he also wants to have every hand gun in the state registered at a fee of $65 EACH. And, we are the only state that has no form of concealed carry save for police officers and certain public officials.

Yeah, I'm looking to move. Anyone in Colorado or Texas that wants to go shooting and can recommend a good Brazilian Jiu Jitsu gym?

MinnesnowtaWild
02-22-2012, 02:14
Wow man this is just spiraling out of control...Seriously ridiculous. Who votes for these people? Honestly?

If they make decisions like this in violation of the 2nd amendment, what other choices are they making?

NEOH212
02-22-2012, 03:07
More mindless Liberal BS. I'm sure glad I don't live there. :faint:

tim12232
02-22-2012, 08:22
I live in NW suburbs of Chicago for 2 years "schaumburg". I am so glad I dont live there anymore, it was fun for the couple years in my younger 20's alot of stuff to do in the windy city. But you couldnt get me to move back there for anything, I would run to CA before moving back to that tyranny! Blago is what...the 3rd Gov to go to prison? Daly's have run Chicago for ever and now they have Satan reincarnate "Rahm".

Sorry IL, time to move!

SigFTW
02-22-2012, 08:37
I feel for y'all that live there. Come to Texas, it's hot in the summers however we are a gun friendly state.:supergrin:

faawrenchbndr
02-22-2012, 08:39
I left Illinois in 1985,.......NEVER plan to move back!
I think they are actually getting worse than California!

TN.Frank
02-22-2012, 08:39
We have a 10 cent a box tax on ammo here in Tennessee. Funny thing is it's 10 cents on a box of 50 rounds of 22lr OR 10 cents on a brick of 500, 22lr. Figure that one out.:whistling:

Tallahassee
02-22-2012, 09:07
I left Illinois in 1985,.......NEVER plan to move back!
I think they are actually getting worse than California!
I think that's accurate.

Tallahassee
02-22-2012, 09:08
Wow man this is just spiraling out of control...Seriously ridiculous. Who votes for these people? Honestly?

If they make decisions like this in violation of the 2nd amendment, what other choices are they making?

More mindless Liberal BS. I'm sure glad I don't live there. :faint:

Unfortunately it's Chicago. If we could annex them, Illinois wouldn't be nearly this bad.

svtpwnz
02-22-2012, 09:17
And yet another reason not to live in Illinois!

irishbum
02-22-2012, 12:00
Here is an idea just ban handguns so the violence goes away. Oh wait that didn't work they tried it. :uglylol:

So I know lets charge law abiding citizens to cough up extra cash to pay for the actions of criminals who are more that likely already receiving their tax dollars in the form of welfare checks and free insurance.

And the irony of a "sin tax" shouldn't we then tax the politicians as they are the biggest sinners and morally corrupt of all?

We are on the wrong side here ladies and gentlemen clearly it no longer pays to be honest and hardwork people who are caring and compassionate towards their neighbors and peers.

What has happened to America? I think most of us know the real answer.

CJStudent
02-22-2012, 12:29
Unfortunately it's Chicago. If we could annex them, Illinois wouldn't be nearly this bad.

You mean get rid of them, right? Annex means forcibly add them to your state/country/whatever.

USMC03Grunt
02-22-2012, 13:23
Yeah, Illannoyed is one of those states ranked near the top of places I will NEVER move to! Kalifornia, Illannoyed, Taxachussetts, New Jerky, N.why? state, and HI...as a kite, are just a few states that would rival moving to Afghanistan, Syria, or Beirut as a better option than moving into one of these oppresive states. Pretty much I tend to stick to areas preferably west of the Mississippi yet east of the Sierra Nevada mountains or below the Mason-Dixon line.

Paul7
02-22-2012, 14:24
Wow man this is just spiraling out of control...Seriously ridiculous. Who votes for these people? Honestly?


The liberal dopes who live there. It's like CA without the good weather.

SO glad I left......

Cmacc
02-22-2012, 15:25
Wow man this is just spiraling out of control...Seriously ridiculous. Who votes for these people? Honestly?

If they make decisions like this in violation of the 2nd amendment, what other choices are they making?

Those who wear Barak Obama "hoodies". :rofl:

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1403413

JK-linux
02-22-2012, 16:14
No one living outside Chicago likes Chicago except soon-to-be college grads. After they move there and become disillusioned with the crime, lack of jobs and taxes, most want to leave. I could live a happy life even if I never visited Chicago again, and I was born there.

Glock1963
02-22-2012, 16:26
I have lived in central Illinois for all of my 48+ years. The majority of the downstate areas are decent places to live. We get lumped in with the Crook County thug politicians because that's generally the only choices we're stuck with on election day.

I am not defending Illinois. I like it here overall, but we're a SERIOUSLY inept state that you wouldn't even believe unless you live here.

They will likely have to give us some sham federal bail out money at some point. We will screw it up so bad that it'll make Greece look like penny pinchers in comparison.

Wishoot
02-22-2012, 16:33
I lived in the Chicago area (Bartlett) for 18 years before moving to Wisconsin. Those were 18 very long years. Life isn't perfect here, but the gun laws are sure better.

raven11
02-22-2012, 19:02
I have lived in central Illinois for all of my 48+ years. The majority of the downstate areas are decent places to live. We get lumped in with the Crook County thug politicians because that's generally the only choices we're stuck with on election day.

I am not defending Illinois. I like it here overall, but we're a SERIOUSLY inept state that you wouldn't even believe unless you live here.

They will likely have to give us some sham federal bail out money at some point. We will screw it up so bad that it'll make Greece look like penny pinchers in comparison.


when our most recent governor wound up in prison we had a election for a new one

and a democratic governor won , closest race in awhile but he still won, here is the state election map
red-Republican, blue - democrat
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/1min/elections/2010/state/IL_governor_375.png
:dunno:

janice6
02-22-2012, 19:05
If Chicago is so sincere about stopping crooks, why don't they tax them to death. 90% tax on all ill gotten gains. Start with the Mayor and work down.

jb1911
02-22-2012, 19:19
I have a theory on Illinois. It's "**** Illinois". I moved to Indiana.

MrVvrroomm
02-22-2012, 19:35
Move and let the God-forsaken state implode.

Magnum27
02-22-2012, 19:37
Disgusting. Rahm wants a $65 per gun tax and now this. WTF.

Jade Falcon
02-22-2012, 20:06
We have a 10 cent a box tax on ammo here in Tennessee. Funny thing is it's 10 cents on a box of 50 rounds of 22lr OR 10 cents on a brick of 500, 22lr. Figure that one out.:whistling:

Think that's bad? I have to pay a mandatory $45.10 tax on every firearm I buy in my state (my last gun purchase was a Ruger GP-100 NIB that I was told was $550; when I went to pay for it, I ended up having to leave to get more money because the final price was $595.00).

That's why, the next time I want to buy a long-gun, I'm going across the river to Oregon to buy it. Nice, cheap prices there with no sales tax. Handguns, I HAVE to buy in my state. Thank god it's not long-guns too!

And Illinois can go down the toilet. I'll never visit that state as long as I live. I don't understand how there is, from what I've read, a ton of firearm self-defense classes that seem to take place there (Massad Ayoob is scheduled to do a MAC-20 class, I believe, in April there). I just don't get it.:dunno:

Glock1963
02-22-2012, 20:12
when our most recent governor wound up in prison we had a election for a new one

and a democratic governor won , closest race in awhile but he still won, here is the state election map
red-Republican, blue - democrat
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/1min/elections/2010/state/IL_governor_375.png
:dunno:

That is a great point and it reinforces what I just wrote. I don't know many people downstate that have anything good to say about Chicago, but they typically supply the "candidates" for us to choose from.

We are all lumped in on the joke but I know very few who have anything but total disdain for the Chicago way.

Glock1963
02-22-2012, 20:20
"And Illinois can go down the toilet."

Don't worry. We're swirling the bowl right now.

The only point I am trying to make is that not everyone in Illinois is a shameless moron.

We're just outnumbered.

Jade Falcon
02-22-2012, 20:26
"And Illinois can go down the toilet."

Don't worry. We're swirling the bowl right now.

The only point I am trying to make is that not everyone in Illinois is a shameless moron.

We're just outnumbered.

I never meant to suggest that you were. But you do have my upmost sympathy.

mt920
02-22-2012, 21:18
It's time to start buying my ammo from Indiana. This **** is getting out of hand!!!!!

Glock1963
02-22-2012, 21:20
I never meant to suggest that you were. But you do have my upmost sympathy.

No offense taken. I totally understand.

Sadly, we've earned much of the contempt the majority of the country seems to have for us.

We talk among ourselves about how pitiful we are especially when compared to the few remaining solvent states.

We're sick of being a joke too. :dunno:

Glock Authority
02-22-2012, 22:10
This POS Quinn is the worst Governor the state has ever had. I would take Blagojevich back in a minute. He has screwed the people of Illinois every way he could and still at it. Double income tax, upped the license plates, doubled the tolls, closing hospitals just to name a few. The other POS Rahm, that prick is just as bad. Honestly, this state really has nothing to offer anymore and Indiana is looking better every day.

USMC03Grunt
02-23-2012, 01:10
Why do I have the mental image of Sam Kinison doing his bit about the starving people in Africa when he says, instead of sending them food, send them U-hauls. I'm sorry but there is nothing so valuable or priceless in these places that would make me want to stay there. I would rather live in a tar-paper shack through an Idaho winter than live in these areas. The borders are open! You can get the hell out of these places and come to lands that are free! Why not leave for greener pastures and leave these socialist regiemes to their own fate?

MinnesnowtaWild
02-23-2012, 02:33
I really, really feel for the people of Illinois. It's too bad that the toilet of Chicago has to control the entire state. I like Illinois too, from a non political standpoint. Seriously though why isn't the NRA standing up and fighting this stuff? Or are they and I'm not hearing about it?

I cannot believe gun control is even being discussed again. Last time I checked this country has MUCH greater problems to deal with than legal gun ownership.

MinnesnowtaWild
02-23-2012, 02:33
By the way, does anyone know if there has EVER been any facts to show that gun control laws keep guns out of criminals hands???

Glock Authority
02-23-2012, 10:26
MW- I doubt it. If that were the case then the city of Chicago would have had a lot less crime and murders under their no handgun law and look, they were at an all-time high. Guess what Daley and Rahm, it doesn't work. We are the ones that are penalized. I'm not in Chicago, but still in Illinois.


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10mmbob
02-23-2012, 10:43
Rahm's new proposals do0n't stand a chance of going anywhere. Just yesterday the down-state Dems laughed at these latest ideas. The only bright spot is that we have 2 Democrat parties here, Chicago Dems and the rest of the state Dems. The down-staters hate the Chicago Dems. so a lot of the nonsense goes by the wayside.

Glock Authority
02-23-2012, 12:34
Rahm's new proposals do0n't stand a chance of going anywhere. Just yesterday the down-state Dems laughed at these latest ideas. The only bright spot is that we have 2 Democrat parties here, Chicago Dems and the rest of the state Dems. The down-staters hate the Chicago Dems. so a lot of the nonsense goes by the wayside.
Thank god for that right???

dwhite53
02-23-2012, 14:14
Why not just add a 1% additional sales tax to all sales in the "high crime" areas? Those that use the facilities, and create the need for the facilities, pay for the facilities.

All the Best,
D. White

mongo356
02-23-2012, 16:47
I wonder why Illinois sent one of ours to washington (Obama) and then received Rahm from washington as a trade? No trade back rules don't apply..........

Magnum27
02-23-2012, 22:46
It's time to start buying my ammo from Indiana. This **** is getting out of hand!!!!!

I am in the NW suburbs but get up to WI often. If this passes I will buy all my ammo in WI, even if I pay more. I am up there 10x a yr so I will be good. Everyone else should be close enough to IN or WI or buy over the Internet. ***** RAHM!! OB's *****.

RowdyatHeart
02-23-2012, 23:03
I am in the NW suburbs but get up to WI often. If this passes I will buy all my ammo in WI, even if I pay more. I am up there 10x a yr so I will be good. Everyone else should be close enough to IN or WI or buy over the Internet. ***** RAHM!! OB's *****.

Once the Marxists get wind of this, they will figure out a way to make you miserable.