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G30SF46
02-24-2012, 04:11
I have been to all the gun stores around me and i would like a job in one of them to have a job related to what I want to do for a career. I walk in introduce my self and they all say no even after they see I am getting a formal education to become a gunsmith and the guns I have built even pieces I have built from scratch. I know they see me as a kid that just thinks guns are cool from video games any suggestions for a young guy trying to get a foot in the door? Or how I could change my approach maybe that would help me?


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NEOH212
02-24-2012, 04:25
If it was me, I would try to get to know the store owners first. Become a good customer and get on a first name basis so they get to know you and what your about. Then after things settle down and they know you, ask for a application. Maybe even volunteer to work a few days a week for a good discount on store items with the condition that if you do good, you can get paid after a while.

redbaron007
02-24-2012, 08:41
If it was me, I would try to get to know the store owners first. Become a good customer and get on a first name basis so they get to know you and what your about. Then after things settle down and they know you, ask for a application. Maybe even volunteer to work a few days a week for a good discount on store items with the condition that if you do good, you can get paid after a while.

^^
This!

Several employees of some guns shops, I know, have done this. It'll take a little time.

:wavey:

red

FLIPPER 348
02-24-2012, 08:49
any suggestions for a young guy trying to get a foot in the door? Or how I could change my approach maybe that would help me?


Glock 30


Make sure your approach is not the the same mess of the English Language that your post is.

method
02-24-2012, 09:26
You need to try to find work with a gunsmithing company, not just any old gun shop.

Good luck.

I briefly attended a gunsmithing school in Arizona before I decided it wasn't worth it. Saw a girl that was in an engraving class with me a few years later. She told me she was living in Phoenix working at Robar, polishing parts for 8 bucks an hour. She said there were a few guys doing the same work there who had completed the entire 2 year gunsmithing program. All she'd ever taken were two engraving classes.

Bruce M
02-24-2012, 09:30
In the limited circles that I travel, any job experience and good references goes nearly as far for an entry level job as does any potential future training and or goals.

KarlThomas
02-24-2012, 09:35
I would pick the one you think you have the best chance with and make that the store you go to for the majority of your ammo/guns/accessories needs. If you ever deal with the owner of the store, extend your hand and introduce yourself. Let him know from your conversations and the way you handle guns in the store that you are quite knowledgeable. I'm sure they get young people all the time that think it would be badass to work at a gun shop. You have to separate yourself from the crowd.

EL COLONEL
02-24-2012, 09:49
Flipper 348 , cut the kid a break. He is just looking for a job which is more than a can say for most kids nowadays .

mgs
02-24-2012, 11:32
Most gun stores recommend a local gunsmith! We have several that work from home and that's a great tax break for now. You can build AR's or good bolt guns with minimum tools and machinery. Repairing broken parts is also a good business. You also could work at Gander Mtn as a Gunsmith....would not be my first choice but you would know the most!...Mike.

G30SF46
02-24-2012, 16:50
Thanks for the suggestions and sorry about the errors in the first post. I had to wake up at 3:45 this morning and posted it when I was only half awake.


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G30SF46
02-24-2012, 16:52
Flipper 348 , cut the kid a break. He is just looking for a job which is more than a can say for most kids nowadays .

Thanks for defending me.


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Cambo
02-24-2012, 19:34
My advice on becoming a "typical" gun shop employee:

1. Practice ignoring people.
2. Work on rudeness skills.(I can't emphasize this enough)
3. Come up with an Special Forces cover story, regardless of your age, make sure to mention "combat experience".
4. Practice selling only one brand of handgun, make sure to disparage all others.
5. If someone asks for a gun not in the store, just tell them it doesn't exist.
6. If a gun doesn't fit someone's hand, tell them they have to make their hand fit the gun - whatever that means.

Teecher45
02-24-2012, 19:52
My advice on becoming a "typical" gun shop employee:

1. Practice ignoring people.
2. Work on rudeness skills.(I can't empathize this enough)
3. Come up with an Special Forces cover story, regardless of your age, make sure to mention "combat experience".
4. Practice selling only one brand of handgun, make sure to disparage all others.
5. If someone asks for a gun not in the store, just tell them it doesn't exist.
6. If a gun doesn't fit someone's hand, tell them they have to make their hand fit the gun - whatever that means.
That's funny as hell.
Not very helpful, but funny as hell!

FLIPPER 348
02-24-2012, 20:59
Flipper 348 , cut the kid a break. He is just looking for a job which is more than a can say for most kids nowadays .



I don't 'cut them breaks' when they are in front of my desk for a job interview, why should I here?



One of the things I do during interviews: I politely excuse myself from the office saying there is a client I have to talk to. I give the interviewee a pen and sheet of paper and ask them to write down why they want the job and where they see themselves 5 years from now. About 10 minutes later I return and take the paper without reading it. I read it after the interview and the content does not mean much. But if it is not legible or composed properly it goes into the trash along with the resume.

glock2740
02-24-2012, 22:28
My advice on becoming a "typical" gun shop employee:

1. Practice ignoring people.
2. Work on rudeness skills.(I can't emphasize this enough)
3. Come up with an Special Forces cover story, regardless of your age, make sure to mention "combat experience".
4. Practice selling only one brand of handgun, make sure to disparage all others.
5. If someone asks for a gun not in the store, just tell them it doesn't exist.
6. If a gun doesn't fit someone's hand, tell them they have to make their hand fit the gun - whatever that means.
:rofl:Hell, if learns all that, he'll end up being the manager. :rofl:

G30SF46
02-24-2012, 23:11
I don't 'cut them breaks' when they are in front of my desk for a job interview, why should I here?



One of the things I do during interviews: I politely excuse myself from the office saying there is a client I have to talk to. I give the interviewee a pen and sheet of paper and ask them to write down why they want the job and where they see themselves 5 years from now. About 10 minutes later I return and take the paper without reading it. I read it after the interview and the content does not mean much. But if it is not legible or composed properly it goes into the trash along with the resume.

I completely agree my post was not that great but you are just bashing a post to glock talk 5 minutes after I woke up at 3:45 a.m. I understand the criticism and take no offense. I do not write like that in a professional setting. I have in fact written and placed as high as state with a business plan. I also presented the plan multiple times to get that far. So I also present my self and speak in a professional manner in a professional setting. My apologizes for not meeting those standards on a glock talk post.


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Jameson4all
02-24-2012, 23:15
Cambo, that was funny man and pretty accurate depending on which shop you go to. To the original poster, I would say keep trying other places, maybe try to start on the floor and work your way in to the gun smithing position after your hired on.

LASTRESORT20
02-24-2012, 23:22
Good luck in your search.....I agree with what Karl T said above...always remember....never stop knocking....nothing good comes easy....Sooner or later...a door will open.

djpuffnstuff
02-25-2012, 01:29
If it was me, I would try to get to know the store owners first. Become a good customer and get on a first name basis so they get to know you and what your about. Then after things settle down and they know you, ask for a application. Maybe even volunteer to work a few days a week for a good discount on store items with the condition that if you do good, you can get paid after a while.


That's a good way to get a job in a gun store.... but it sounds like you want something more than that and your wanting a job in the gun store more for some experience in a gun retail environment. In which case you don't have time (or the money) to get buddy buddy with the owner.

If what your really after is the chance to get experience by repairing or doing work on a multitude of guns I would call pretty much anyone you can think of that might be in the gun business or use guns. Call pawn shops, call people that teach CCW classes, call the gun stores back, place an ad in your local classified.

AA#5
02-25-2012, 03:40
Make sure your approach is not the the same mess of the English Language that your post is.

Well, sum peoples, dey got inglish abiliti & sum, dey got mekanicle abiliti but most people ain't got boath.


:animlol::animlol:

Cambo
02-25-2012, 05:40
Cambo, that was funny man and pretty accurate depending on which shop you go to. To the original poster, I would say keep trying other places, maybe try to start on the floor and work your way in to the gun smithing position after your hired on.

Thanks, all based on a lot of personal experience unfortunately. As a business owner, I will never understand the average gun store business model.

Cambo
02-25-2012, 05:42
:rofl:Hell, if learns all that, he'll end up being the manager. :rofl:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

You are only promoted to management when you've scared at least 50 new shooters out of the store.:rofl:

NEOH212
02-25-2012, 05:52
That's a good way to get a job in a gun store.... but it sounds like you want something more than that and your wanting a job in the gun store more for some experience in a gun retail environment. In which case you don't have time (or the money) to get buddy buddy with the owner.

If what your really after is the chance to get experience by repairing or doing work on a multitude of guns I would call pretty much anyone you can think of that might be in the gun business or use guns. Call pawn shops, call people that teach CCW classes, call the gun stores back, place an ad in your local classified.

If he has any gun shops in his area like the ones where I live, they just may have a resident gunsmith. What better way to get a foot in the door to gunsmithing than to work in a store with a gunsmith?

The store owners will get to know you and so will the smith. Who knows where a opportunity like this can lead. Either way, working in a gun shop gets you a foot in the door anyhow. You will get to know other gun people, reps from companies in the industry, ect that can open other doors to opportunities that he couldn't have ever dreamed of before.

If the OP wants to jump right in to big time gunsmithing, outside of starting his own business or finding a rare opportunity, good luck there.

Working at a gun shop and having gunsmith skills can be a real benefit. He will be interacting with his potential future customers! If the shop doesn't have a resident smith, after he proves himself and his work, he may have himself a lucrative business opportunity!

There are a lot of possibilities open to him by working at a gun shop. He will have to find the right shop with the right clientele and management. Patience is a virtue and perseverance wins the battle here!

:wavey:

MoneyMaker
02-25-2012, 06:11
I don't 'cut them breaks' when they are in front of my desk for a job interview, why should I here?



One of the things I do during interviews: I politely excuse myself from the office saying there is a client I have to talk to. I give the interviewee a pen and sheet of paper and ask them to write down why they want the job and where they see themselves 5 years from now. About 10 minutes later I return and take the paper without reading it. I read it after the interview and the content does not mean much. But if it is not legible or composed properly it goes into the trash along with the resume.


Seems you better go back to English class yourself!:rofl:

Stevekozak
02-25-2012, 10:14
I don't 'cut them breaks' when they are in front of my desk for a job interview, why should I here?



One of the things I do during interviews: I politely excuse myself from the office saying there is a client I have to talk to. I give the interviewee a pen and sheet of paper and ask them to write down why they want the job and where they see themselves 5 years from now. About 10 minutes later I return and take the paper without reading it. I read it after the interview and the content does not mean much. But if it is not legible or composed properly it goes into the trash along with the resume.
I am curious about two things:

What sort of business is it that you are in?

Do you want similar scrutiny of your grammer in your posts and the appropriate corrections?

:wavey:

AustinTx
02-25-2012, 14:54
I completely agree my post was not that great but you are just bashing a post to glock talk 5 minutes after I woke up at 3:45 a.m. I understand the criticism and take no offense. I do not write like that in a professional setting. I have in fact written and placed as high as state with a business plan. I also presented the plan multiple times to get that far. So I also present my self and speak in a professional manner in a professional setting. My apologizes for not meeting those standards on a glock talk post.


Glock 30

You're the one that decided when to post that.

Not trying to be nasty, but FLIPPER 348 does have a good point.

G30SF46
02-25-2012, 18:30
You're the one that decided when to post that.

Not trying to be nasty, but FLIPPER 348 does have a good point.

If you read the post I said I completely agreed and took no offense.


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High Altitude
02-26-2012, 02:59
Gunshops around here hire friends and family. Half the time I am in a gunshop someone is asking if they are hiring and they always say no.

AA#5
02-26-2012, 04:04
Gunshops around here hire friends and family. Half the time I am in a gunshop someone is asking if they are hiring and they always say no.

I don't know about that. I worked in several & I wasn't friend or family with any. I think it's more a matter of product knowledge & how you interact with customers.

PlasticGuy
02-26-2012, 05:18
You have no experience and they don't know you. No good gunshop is likely to hire you. That's not to say that you should give up, but rather that you may need to start elsewhere in order to build a resume and a reputation.

One option is to start at a large store with a gun department in it (Sportsman's Warehouse, Bass Pro, Cabelas, etc.). Another option is to apply for jobs at factories that build guns. Building guns for a manufacturer would make for a great resume. It might also help if you get armorer certifications. Being factory certified to work on Glock pistols or Colt rifles would be a huge advantage. That is more quantifiable than a general gunsmithing education.

Having gunsmith training is good, but unfortunately doesn't tell a prospective employer much about you. What do you call the lowest scoring student to pass his medical exams? Same as the rest of the class: Doctor. Same goes for gunsmiths. Your goal should be to build a resume to go with the education. Good luck.