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Restless28
03-01-2012, 08:21
Looking for sling help for a Daniel Defense XV EZ AR.
This one has the EZ Rail system. I think I want to try a single point setup. What do I need to do this?

WoodenPlank
03-01-2012, 13:21
Looking for sling help for a Daniel Defense XV EZ AR.
This one has the EZ Rail system. I think I want to try a single point setup. What do I need to do this?

Most likely you will need a replacement buffer lock plate to support a single point. The IKH SLAP plate, Magpul ASAP, and several others would support this. I would strongly suggest looking for ways to mount a 2-point sling over a 1-point, however.

JASV.17
03-01-2012, 13:38
Danger Close and Noveske are other options as well. I have the Noveske, I like it because it's very low profile. I use a Gear Sector single point sling.

http://www.gearsector.com/view/product/172/

http://www.gearsector.com/browse/category/slings/single-point-slings/

WoodenPlank
03-01-2012, 13:50
Danger Close and Noveske are other options as well. I have the Noveske, I like it because it's very low profile. I use a Gear Sector single point sling.

http://www.gearsector.com/view/product/172/

http://www.gearsector.com/browse/category/slings/single-point-slings/

If you're talking about the same Danger Close I am thinking of, he doesn't make a single point adapter.

concretefuzzynuts
03-01-2012, 22:11
I suggest a lock plate made by Double Star Corp. It's ambidextrous and easy to install (you'll need a castle nut wrench). Then just a good quality single point sling, stay away from any plastic parts if you can.

MrMurphy
03-02-2012, 03:10
If you enjoy having working reproductive equipment, try and avoid single points.

WoodenPlank
03-02-2012, 03:40
If you enjoy having working reproductive equipment, try and avoid single points.

This is a valid point. One good shot to the junk from a weapon dangling on a single-point goes a long way to making you get rid of it. Then again, causing that to happen usually involves actually MOVING with the weapon on the sling, not just standing around looking cool. :tongueout:

G30Mike
03-02-2012, 03:50
If you enjoy having working reproductive equipment, try and avoid single points.


This is a valid point. One good shot to the junk from a weapon dangling on a single-point goes a long way to making you get rid of it. Then again, causing that to happen usually involves actually MOVING with the weapon on the sling, not just standing around looking cool. :tongueout:

Agreed! I took a shot to the fellas and needless to say, the same day I picked up a 2 point.

Restless28
03-02-2012, 04:50
I think I'll go 2 point after reading the posts. :whistling:

Suggestions?

MrMurphy
03-02-2012, 07:08
Viking Tactics VTAC or a BFG VCAS. They are similar, both designed by former Delta Force guys, and about the best out there currently.

I've used both, currently use a VTAC.

I've both gotten nut-shotted by my own single point and nearly caused a simulated casualty to become a real one when my rifle decided to come flinging back from around behind me (operating as squad medic in an exercise) and nearly clock him in the head. He had a helmet or he'd have been concussed.

JASV.17
03-02-2012, 08:14
If you're talking about the same Danger Close I am thinking of, he doesn't make a single point adapter.

Thanks for the correction, don't know where my head was at...I was thinking of their light mount.

JASV.17
03-02-2012, 10:23
Viking Tactics VTAC or a BFG VCAS. They are similar, both designed by former Delta Force guys, and about the best out there currently.

I've used both, currently use a VTAC.

I've both gotten nut-shotted by my own single point and nearly caused a simulated casualty to become a real one when my rifle decided to come flinging back from around behind me (operating as squad medic in an exercise) and nearly clock him in the head. He had a helmet or he'd have been concussed.

For the price, think I might as well pick one up myself. Do you have the wide padded version, or what? Do they come with QD swivels?

WoodenPlank
03-02-2012, 11:42
Thanks for the correction, don't know where my head was at...I was thinking of their light mount.

Yeah, I've run one of his might mounts in the past, and it's good stuff.

For the price, think I might as well pick one up myself. Do you have the wide padded version, or what? Do they come with QD swivels?

Mine did not, and I don't remember seeing one that did. Swivles are pretty cheap, though.

JASV.17
03-02-2012, 13:37
Yeah, I've run one of his might mounts in the past, and it's good stuff.



Mine did not, and I don't remember seeing one that did. Swivles are pretty cheap, though.

Any specific ones/vendors you'd recommend?

WoodenPlank
03-02-2012, 17:05
Any specific ones/vendors you'd recommend?

For sling swivels? I'd imagine someone out there is selling some fancy, high speed low drag model, but I don't see much difference between most of them.

Slings are a bit of a different story.

Minnow
03-02-2012, 19:29
The only thing crappier than a single point is a bungee cord single point.

WoodenPlank
03-02-2012, 19:33
The only thing crappier than a single point is a bungee cord single point.

Or a three-point.

Steve in PA
03-02-2012, 22:47
I'm running a VTAC padded 2-point sling and really like it. I've done the single point sling and while some people may like it, it has very liimited use. The 2-point sling is the way to go.

MrMurphy
03-03-2012, 02:56
Even a 3 pt is better than a 1 pt for most things, and I ran one for 3 years (issued).


I use the nonpadded LaRue QD model. The padded model did not exist when I got mine, and since i'm used to wearing armor, even out of armor the nonpadded sling doesn't bother me much.

jkirk
03-03-2012, 05:57
I like this mount:
http://www.tacticallink.com/Z-360_Sling_Mount.html

And this sling: http://www.tacticallink.com/Convertible_Sling.html

I find that I prefer a two point sling, but from time to time, a single point comes in handy. This sling is the best of both worlds.
I can not say enough about the quality of this gear, and the customer service of this company. Simply outstanding.

Jeff

BBJones
03-03-2012, 08:16
I like this mount:
http://www.tacticallink.com/Z-360_Sling_Mount.html

And this sling: http://www.tacticallink.com/Convertible_Sling.html

I find that I prefer a two point sling, but from time to time, a single point comes in handy. This sling is the best of both worlds.
I can not say enough about the quality of this gear, and the customer service of this company. Simply outstanding.

Jeff

Way too expensive for what you get. You can do the exact same thing by getting a vtac or vcas sling and adding impact weapon components 2-1 triglide. Which it looks like tactical link is using but with their logo on it. Both the slings I mention are quick adjust 2 points.

Also noveske's qd endplate would save you $50 and do the same thing as their way over priced rear attachment point.

RMTactical
03-03-2012, 09:27
2-point quick adjust

Restless28
03-03-2012, 09:59
Dumb question, but what attachment points are you guys using? I'm assuming the buttstock has one, but I have none on the front. I want to go with the VTAC.

Restless28
03-03-2012, 10:49
Ok, I took the advice and ordered a VTAC padded sling and a Daniel Defense rail mount attachment. Oh, and since Brownell's had mags on sale, I added 5 more steel mags, and for added measure, I ordered 200 more rounds of XM193.:supergrin:

pag23
03-03-2012, 17:19
Ok, I took the advice and ordered a VTAC padded sling and a Daniel Defense rail mount attachment. Oh, and since Brownell's had mags on sale, I added 5 more steel mags, and for added measure, I ordered 200 more rounds of XM193.:supergrin:

You will be happy with the padded VTAC..... let us know how you make out.

WoodenPlank
03-03-2012, 17:21
Ok, I took the advice and ordered a VTAC padded sling and a Daniel Defense rail mount attachment. Oh, and since Brownell's had mags on sale, I added 5 more steel mags, and for added measure, I ordered 200 more rounds of XM193.:supergrin:

What steel mags did you get?

NeverMore1701
03-03-2012, 17:29
I use a padded VCAS with a MASH hook up front and a D ring, fastex buckle, and QD swivel in back. It attaches to an IWC snap hook far back on my MOE handguard and DD QD endplate. This setup allows for use as a two point (primary) or single point setup similar to the Magpul MS2, but with the (IMO) superior VCAS sling.

Edit, got some pics.


Two point:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jkcSE1CcJOw/TzbXDYfx1OI/AAAAAAAAAZk/wlsUu-VO4J0/s1600/IMG_3498.JPG


Front:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Fw_93OjUaiw/TzbXKE5ADeI/AAAAAAAAAZs/nPDWxZSpkm0/s1600/IMG_3499.JPG


Rear:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sygx7T9BVM0/TzbXSP9dJXI/AAAAAAAAAZ0/a6ZSz9aZCrw/s1600/IMG_3500.JPG


Single point:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2wrf7KeGqjM/TzbXbGxEtrI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/MW3hEwtsplk/s1600/IMG_3502.JPG

Restless28
03-03-2012, 18:34
What steel mags did you get?

The steel mags at Brownell's. Regular $14.99, on sale for $9.99

SCSU74
03-03-2012, 20:28
I use a single point without any problems. I use a Midwest industries attachment and a blue force gear udc sling. Hitting yourself in the balls really isn't a problem if you practice transition drills.


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MrMurphy
03-04-2012, 22:34
I use a CTR and LaRue 7" rail, both have built in QD sockets.


SCS, I practice transition drills regularly and still do not care for single points. My former job included everything from climbing ladders and searching vehicles to conducting aircraft recaptures or more infantry-style work. The single point excelled at none of these except in keeping the gun somewhat attached to me.

SCSU74
03-04-2012, 23:15
I use a CTR and LaRue 7" rail, both have built in QD sockets.


SCS, I practice transition drills regularly and still do not care for single points. My former job included everything from climbing ladders and searching vehicles to conducting aircraft recaptures or more infantry-style work. The single point excelled at none of these except in keeping the gun somewhat attached to me.

Sounds like a lot more fun than anything I ever get to do haha. I usually don't use it for anything more that basic patrol calls.


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WoodenPlank
03-05-2012, 11:53
Sounds like a lot more fun than anything I ever get to do haha. I usually don't use it for anything more that basic patrol calls.


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Try climbing a fence or ladder with a single-point some time, and you'll see where the suckage starts.

Fwdftw
03-05-2012, 12:31
Best of both worlds.. http://originalsoegear.com/21sling.html

NeverMore1701
03-05-2012, 13:17
Best of both worlds.. http://originalsoegear.com/21sling.html

Close to what I set up, but without padding and with the crappy bungee thing.

WoodenPlank
03-05-2012, 14:59
Best of both worlds.. http://originalsoegear.com/21sling.html

Looks like the worst of both, to me. :wow:

Fwdftw
03-05-2012, 15:16
I like Johns bungee its not over stretchy only has a little stretch vs the blackhawk ones.

NeverMore1701
03-05-2012, 15:21
I like Johns bungee its not over stretchy only has a little stretch vs the blackhawk ones.

Bungee pretty much sucks no matter what.

WoodenPlank
03-05-2012, 15:44
Bungee pretty much sucks no matter what.

Yeah, 6-12 pounds of rifle going boing boing boing while attached to you is not pleasant.

Fwdftw
03-05-2012, 16:11
someone loves em.. he moves a metric **** ton of them.. lol i didnt pay for mine. for a freebie it works on. I would still like the padded Vcas

SCSU74
03-06-2012, 09:54
I use a padded VCAS with a MASH hook up front and a D ring, fastex buckle, and QD swivel in back. It attaches to an IWC snap hook far back on my MOE handguard and DD QD endplate. This setup allows for use as a two point (primary) or single point setup similar to the Magpul MS2, but with the (IMO) superior VCAS sling.

Edit, got some pics.


Two point:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jkcSE1CcJOw/TzbXDYfx1OI/AAAAAAAAAZk/wlsUu-VO4J0/s1600/IMG_3498.JPG


Front:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Fw_93OjUaiw/TzbXKE5ADeI/AAAAAAAAAZs/nPDWxZSpkm0/s1600/IMG_3499.JPG


Rear:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sygx7T9BVM0/TzbXSP9dJXI/AAAAAAAAAZ0/a6ZSz9aZCrw/s1600/IMG_3500.JPG


Single point:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2wrf7KeGqjM/TzbXbGxEtrI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/MW3hEwtsplk/s1600/IMG_3502.JPG

what are the advantages of mounting rear to endplate as opposed to the qd socket in stock? started looking at 2 points and i have the same stock/fore end that you have in the picture. Starting to look at different mounting options.

BLK RIFLE
03-16-2012, 19:36
Go to cheaperthandirt.com and put the pn 2-MWMCTAR13 in their search. They are made my Midwest Industries and I put them on both my ARs. They mount on the recoil tube in front of the butt stock. I like mine.

Two Guns
03-16-2012, 19:58
I have Vickers Tactical slings on both my AR's now.