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PghJim
03-06-2012, 11:33
I am having trouble deciding on a carry load. Do I want bonded, or a bullet that stays together like GD or HST, or do I want one that fragments and penetrates more like the 125gr SJPH 357 Magnum round like Double Tap's Seirra's bullet? Currently I am carrying HST's in a 4.5" G32. I have had some issues with the Gold Dot and do not carry it.

jeffreybehr
03-06-2012, 14:53
A 125g. Barnes all-copper TAC-XP bullet...
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k220/jeffreybehr/Shooting%20stuff/3357-125sopenedall3views.jpg
...at about 1400FPS (@ 10') from a 5.2" barrel. See
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1399391
...post #3.

sr975j
03-06-2012, 14:57
165g Ranger T's. would not have a problem with HST or Gold Dots either.

Sam

cookand
03-06-2012, 19:13
Currently DT Gold Dot 125's. Have just purchased several boxes of Underwood's same loading. After some range time and if I get reliability, I'll be all Underwood. The Barnes loading looks very nice, just so dang expensive.

jeffreybehr
03-07-2012, 11:57
165g Ranger T's. would not have a problem with HST or Gold Dots either.

Sam

125g.?

Poohgyrr
03-07-2012, 13:07
FWIW, the 125 gr JHP 357 Magnum loads in a 4" barrel worked extremely well back when. That load seemed to set the standard for what actually happened on the street in real life. The other loads worked too, but the 125gr seemed to give instant, one shot, stops.

The 357Sig auto pistols generally have less recoil, less muzzle blast, and more rounds per gun load. And the 125gr 357Sig loads seem to have similar results as the 125gr 357 Magnum. Also, I'm getting exceptional accuracy when I do my part, again similar to the 357Magnum. The more I shoot this, the more I appreciate it.

I'm running 125s (Gold Dots or Win Rangers). FWIW.....

RedHaze
03-07-2012, 22:25
I carry 14 CorBon's 125gr JHP in the gun.
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/228650_1718830773771_1328317000_31495783_4083707_n.jpg

And a spare magazine with 15 125gr Gold Dots...

TreeTrooper
03-09-2012, 21:21
I carry my issue Speer 125 JHP Gold Dots.

jprj
03-09-2012, 23:06
Hordnady 185 jhp :)

RedHaze
03-10-2012, 00:31
Hordnady 185 jhp :)

That's a pretty heavy for caliber bullet in .357 sig... :whistling:

cookand
03-10-2012, 01:07
I'm thinking the .40 S&W shooters keep finding themselves researching the 357Sig and forget where they are before they post. :supergrin:

silversport
03-10-2012, 06:56
I'm thinking the .40 S&W shooters keep finding themselves researching the 357Sig and forget where they are before they post. :supergrin:

+1 to that...:thumbsup:

125GR Speer Gold Dot in my G23 wanna be G32...

Bill

Chowser
03-11-2012, 18:13
i'm fine with what we are issued.
i carry winchester rangers in all my .357sig guns.
125 gr. bonded jhp and 125 gr. t-series jhp.

i thought about getting gold dots, corbons, etc, etc, but if they are going to issue us ammo for our off duty/back up guns, i might as well carry what they give me.

when i first got into .357sig over 10 years ago, all i bought was corbon loads for carry, but since i got our department switched over, i haven't had to buy my own ammo in forever, so i don't know what's out there.

Travclem
03-12-2012, 09:13
I carry Gold Dots in every caliber except .38spl. PDX-1+p for .38spl.

Brian Lee
03-13-2012, 01:12
For 10MM:

First it was 155 grain Gold Dots.
Then it was 165 grain Golden Sabers.

Now it's 155 grain solid copper Barnes X-something or other. Which is actually less powerful than the first two because of less room for powder, but for crack head defense, it's still a great round. And merciful too, because it stays in one piece so the surgeon will find it easier to remove all the metal quickly & leave no slivers if the CH lives.

I once considered 135 grain Noslers, but found that they frag too badly to always guarantee enough penetration through clothing, coats & stuff.

PghJim
03-13-2012, 01:49
For 10MM:

First it was 155 grain Gold Dots.
Then it was 165 grain Golden Sabers.

Now it's 155 grain solid copper Barnes X-something or other. Which is actually less powerful than the first two because of less room for powder, but for crack head defense, it's still a great round. And merciful too, because it stays in one piece so the surgeon will find it easier to remove all the metal quickly & leave no slivers if the CH lives.

I once considered 135 grain Noslers, but found that they frag too badly to always guarantee enough penetration through clothing, coats & stuff.


Brian - this was a 357 sig question, but you raise a good point. Where were you getting the 10mm 155 and 165 GD from? I just ordered a box of 165gr GD from Underwood, but I have not seen 155GD anywhere for a while. DT now has 165gr GD. Have you tried Underwood? What is your opinion? I did order some 40 S&W +p (whatever that means) from Underwood that has the 155gr GD going 1,300fps, which is 10mm velocities with CorBon ammo. I guess I can hijack my own thread.

cookand
03-13-2012, 22:08
i'm fine with what we are issued.
i carry winchester rangers in all my .357sig guns.
125 gr. bonded jhp and 125 gr. t-series jhp.

i thought about getting gold dots, corbons, etc, etc, but if they are going to issue us ammo for our off duty/back up guns, i might as well carry what they give me.

when i first got into .357sig over 10 years ago, all i bought was corbon loads for carry, but since i got our department switched over, i haven't had to buy my own ammo in forever, so i don't know what's out there.

If you don't mind me asking, how does department issued ammo work? Do you get so much a week, month, etc.? Thanks.

Chowser
03-14-2012, 10:23
If you don't mind me asking, how does department issued ammo work? Do you get so much a week, month, etc.? Thanks.

I took over a few years ago when we switched to .357 (in 2008). It finally made the guys get rid of their .40cal black talons (yes, guys were carrying ammo that old).

Right now, once a year, I make them shoot out their carry ammo and give them new ammo. Nice to know that the ammo works after a year of sitting in the gun and mag pouches getting rained/snowed on.

Other than that, practice FMJ is available for training as long as I can keep it in stock. Down to four cases left. Once the city gives me my budget for this year (thinking in April), I'll probably order at least 15 more cases minimum of FMJ and at least 3-4 cases of Ranger bonded jhp and t-series jhp. Unless of course Winchester is making .357SIG PDX in 50rd boxes for LE consumption.

For off-duty guns, after the guys qualify on them, I just toss them a 50rd box of Winchester Ranger for the year. I make them shoot out their JHP ammo in their backup/offduty weapons as well. It's a good test of their magazines which is a good thing because I found out my 9-rd magazine in my 33 had a bad spring. Not something you want to find out when I need it.

I'm sure these guys are stockpiling them at home because I know they aren't shooting the Rangers anywhere else.

cookand
03-14-2012, 20:32
Thanks for the info Chowser. I've always been curious.

clarkstoncz
03-14-2012, 22:07
I'm kind of torn between the two camps for the .357 SIG.
Traditional JHPS like the Cor-Bon or Double Tap 125s, and the new DT 125
Bonded Defense GOLD DOT.http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/DOUBLE%20TAP%20357%20SIG/DT-357-125.jpg
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/DOUBLE%20TAP%20357%20SIG/dt125gd-2.jpg

The first two utilize the Sierra 125 gr. JHP that is a fragmenting round, sending off
secondary missiles (if you will) like the very street proven 125 gr. .357 Magnum.

Leaving the also very street proven 125 bonded Gold Dot that is the darling of
state Troopers and other cops, along with many a CCW holder as well.

Never seen any Ranger. PDX or HST out here, so they remain a mystery.

Then there is the Barnes X bullet as loaded by Corbon (DPX) and Double Tap
Ammo (TAC-XP) with the solid copper bullet that seems to be expensive, but
outshines them in my opinion.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/DOUBLE%20TAP%20357%20SIG/DT-G33-4.jpg

It penetrates deeply on hard targets, giving excellent tactical penetration,
but expands nicely on soft targets.

Those shootings with it in the case of the 115 gr. DPX show it to be a dynamic
stopper- just like the 125 gr. JHPs. The same bullet in 9mm DPX has worked for
years, too.

Me, I'm sticking with the new kid on the block:)

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/DOUBLE%20TAP%20357%20SIG/DT-G33-2.jpg

pa_patrolman
06-17-2012, 19:15
I carry issued Winchester 125 gr Ranger T. We carried Gold Dot for years and never had any problems. We switched after we tested the Ranger T.

Bello
06-21-2012, 18:25
I would just carry gold dots! All I carry have carried will ever carry...and my hd round of choice

pizza
06-21-2012, 20:18
Federal HST in my G19.


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clarkstoncz
06-26-2012, 22:20
I've seen where others than myself are urging Double Tap to offer a 125 gr. Barnes
TAC-XP in their impressive .357 SIG line.

IF I was to ever carry hand-loads for defense, I'd have no qualms with the X bullet
@1,400 fps or so.

Until then.. I like the DT 115 gr. TAC -XP just fine.
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb26/czrami/DOUBLE%20TAP%20357%20SIG/DT-357-12.jpg