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Lockback
03-06-2012, 19:40
It gets no respect.
Two of my favorite gun people, Massad Ayoob and hickock45 - of YouTube fame - ignore it. Both say the G30 packs more rounds and is therefore better. Or that the same-sized Baby Glocks carry more rounds in an even smaller package. :crying:
I've had mine for over ten years and it's my EDC gun. (I also have a Gen2 G19 that I love, but the G36 fits my hand and conceals even a little better).
I mean, to each their own. And I respect the opinions of experienced gun guys like Mas and hickock45, who have put many more rounds downrange than I ever have and served in law enforcement. But I still think the G36 is a terrific carry gun. With 7 rounds of .45ACP on hand plus a quick 6-round reload, you're talking up to 13 Big Boys on tap. My gun has been totally reliable. No issues.
So what gives? Why doesn't the G36 get any love? :dunno:

What say you?

Fastbear
03-07-2012, 09:28
There are many Glock models to carry so you will just have to make a pick. Sometimes I carry a 36 with a spare clip in a cell phone BBC carrier. The 36 is light and will do the job. If you feel the need for more firepower then move to the bigger magazine guns. Somedays I carry a revolver just because I can. Today is range day and my new Glock 17 gen4 gets the call. Often when i make casual day trips to do local business the 36 goes on the belt. Look at it this way, the more Glocks you have, the more choices you can have.

CanyonMan
03-07-2012, 10:56
It gets no respect.
Two of my favorite gun people, Massad Ayoob and hickock45 - of YouTube fame - ignore it. Both say the G30 packs more rounds and is therefore better. Or that the same-sized Baby Glocks carry more rounds in an even smaller package. :crying:
I've had mine for over ten years and it's my EDC gun. (I also have a Gen2 G19 that I love, but the G36 fits my hand and conceals even a little better).
I mean, to each their own. And I respect the opinions of experienced gun guys like Mas and hickock45, who have put many more rounds downrange than I ever have and served in law enforcement. But I still think the G36 is a terrific carry gun. With 7 rounds of .45ACP on hand plus a quick 6-round reload, you're talking up to 13 Big Boys on tap. My gun has been totally reliable. No issues.
So what gives? Why doesn't the G36 get any love? :dunno:

What say you?


One reason is all the internet gossip/garbage that the G36 is a problematic gun...

One reason is because most people are high cap minded.

One reason is truth be known, a good deal of people cannot shoot a small 45 like this, it hurts there hands.. Seriously !

The, "they are problematic and the the low cap" are the two biggest issues against it I've seen.....

I own one with about 1500 rds through it and not one flaw. I carry it, and switch back and forth from it to my M1911.



Who care what Masad And Hickock say or do amigo, do what you like and what is what is best for your needs! ;)


Enjoy your gun.







CM

NH Trucker
03-07-2012, 11:09
With 7 rounds of .45ACP on hand plus a quick 6-round reload, you're talking up to 13 Big Boys on tap.

What say you?

I have that capacity in a single G21 magazine, plus 1 in the chamber giving me 14 before I have to reload. The G30 gives you 10 rounds at hand.

Some people prefer a higher capacity. To each their own. It's why there are as many different models of firearms as there are, even just within Glock's brand.

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Wetrudgeon
03-07-2012, 17:34
Lockback:
Your point is well made. Like you, we carry a G36 every day in complete confidence. Ours was purchased in 2004 and has been flawless in reliability. It is small and light and easy to hide; and .45ACP handguns make us feel more cozy than the 9mm.

We don't consider the G36 perfect, but our complaints against it are few, and minor. Being "limited" to six rounds in the magazine might be a tactical disadvantage in some rare scenarios, but we hardly see this limitaion as high risk. Our main complaint against the G36 is relatively heavy recoil makes it not-so-easy to shoot well. A plug, a "+0" mag extension, and some skateboard tape (along with practice) go far to overcome that issue for us.

Perhaps the perfect handgun has yet to be devised, but we think the G36 comes as close as any to perfection.

We trudge on.

Lockback
03-07-2012, 19:11
Lockback:
Your point is well made. Like you, we carry a G36 every day in complete confidence. Ours was purchased in 2004 and has been flawless in reliability. It is small and light and easy to hide; and .45ACP handguns make us feel more cozy than the 9mm.

We don't consider the G36 perfect, but our complaints against it are few, and minor. Being "limited" to six rounds in the magazine might be a tactical disadvantage in some rare scenarios, but we hardly see this limitaion as high risk. Our main complaint against the G36 is relatively heavy recoil makes it not-so-easy to shoot well. A plug, a "+0" mag extension, and some skateboard tape (along with practice) go far to overcome that issue for us.

Perhaps the perfect handgun has yet to be devised, but we think the G36 comes as close as any to perfection.

We trudge on.
Amen.
I think it's not only the most underrated handgun in the Glock lineup, I think it's one of the most underrated handguns on the market.
Having said that, I know it's not for everyone. Which is fine with me. I don't mind being one of The Few, The Proud, The G36 Carriers. :cool:

DaBurna
03-07-2012, 19:59
Shot one at the range the other week from a Gentleman who was nice enough to let me try it out! I can say I was impressed!! Not impressed for me to change from my G30SF, but it shot marvelously! He said he'd owned his for about 2 years and it has had ZERO problems. I do think that much of the G36 bad rap is hyperbole and innuendo...I can say it has WORKED as that was one of the determining factors that led me to getting my G30SF in the 1st place.

random southpaw
03-07-2012, 20:37
G36 is my CCW.

Additionally, I recently shared, with my son, about a posting of a study based upon NRA's Armed Citizen incidents. My quick summary is that most "encounters" took place just beyond arms length and the average number of shots fired by the defending citizen against the BG was a total of 2.

My son had been concerned about whether 9mm was "enough." He had also heard from a LEO friend that there were concerns about whether 9mm was what they ought to have.

So, my son asked if he could try on my Cross Breed Super Tuck with the G36 in it. He was pleasantly surprised at how well the G36 conceals. He was also pleased with the comfort of the CBST.

It looks like my son will be buying a G36 and a CBST. However, he may choose to get the horsehide (more expensive) option instead of the cowhide holster that I got.

When I queried my son about whether 6+1 was enough to give him the confidence he needs, he said, "if you can't hit the target with 7 shots, it ain't gonna get done, anyway."

L Pete
03-09-2012, 15:43
Those same people who say the G36 don't hold enough carry a J frame on a semi regular basis. I like my G36 and confess to carrying a J frame as well, but I think that 7 shots with a quick mag change is just as effective as can be expected. If you can't put the stop to someone with seven rounds of 45 acp, you just need to move to your basement and seal up the door. The key is not how many shot your auto holds, but how quick you can make a mag change, and how effective you are with that auto. I feel that in a gunfight, you would not empty your G36 before the fight is over.

fastbolt
03-10-2012, 12:18
I know of a couple of Glock employees who prefer the G36.

If I didn't already own an excellent CS45 (3rd gen S&W w/3.25" barrel & 6-rd mags) I'd have picked up a G36. As it is, the G36 is actually closer in size to my 'original' 4513TSW (3.75" barrel & 6-rd mags, vs. the 7-rd mags the current model uses).

I was shooting another instructor's G36 the other day. It was a used model he'd just picked up. Fed & fired just fine with the duty 230gr JHP's used.

I don't worry overly much about sheer capacity issues, myself. (Yes, I'm one of those folks who returned to carrying one or another of my J-frames in recent years when I'm not carrying one or another of my smallish 9's, .40's or .45's.)

Back when I was first carrying my Colt Commander as an off-duty weapon, the magazines only held 7 rounds, and nowadays I use 8-rd 1911 mags.

I have 'standard' 6-rd mags for my Colt Officers Model, although I also picked up a couple of 7-rd mags for it some years ago.

Yes, the G30 magazine holds more rounds if that's a major concern for someone. The G30 also has a larger grip and overall size. Oddly enough, while the slide/barrel length is the same for the G30/36, the G36 has a slight advantage in sight radius.

Suit yourself.

FWIW, my last issued pistol prior to retirement was a 7+1 capacity compact .45, and I didn't lose sleep carrying it.

Train & practice. It's just a handgun.

Lockback
03-10-2012, 17:01
Well, it's nice to know I'm not completely alone on this.
Obviously, there are others here who love the G36 and carry it regularly, realizing that they don't or won't necessarily need a 33-round magazine if trouble knocks at their door. I couldn't agree more.
To each their own and I won't criticize those who've made other choices. I like the 9mm and .40 S&W rounds and the 1911 and the G30 and the G21 and the ... well, you get the idea.
I just happen to really, really like the G36. I've owned dozens of handguns and I'm not going to tell you it's the best one I've ever owned. But it is my favorite. Of that, there's no doubt: tough, reliable, fits my hand perfectly, light weight, concealable.
I'm glad there are others here who agree with me. :patriot:

DesertEagle
03-11-2012, 11:54
There was a story posted on GT, a long time ago, of a member (IIRC) who had to defend himself and his loved one. Long story, most of it not relevant to this post, but he faced multiple attackers, and it took 9 rounds to end the confrontation I believe, and other attackers fled in the force of overwhelming response rather than press the attack which would have required even more rounds.

Average may be 2. Do you want to be the one caught without if you wind up in an "above average" situation? Carry as much as you can. Sorta goes with shoot the biggest caliber that's comfortable. Sure a man with .22 holes is less likely to want to hurt you than a man with no holes - but a man with 9mm holes, .40 holes, .45 holes, etc might be even more disinclined to do you harm.

DonGlock26
03-11-2012, 12:39
I've always been impressed by the G36. It fits my hand very well and packs a big punch.

citra47
03-11-2012, 13:27
Years ago when I had my FFL, my partner and I had to laugh at the number of new concealed carry permit holders that came in with a list of priorities for their ideal CC gun. Of primary concern was the magazine size (it had to carry a lot of ammo), then adjustable sights and so on. Most purchased a rather large handgun usually of 9mm persuasion. It didn't take long for many to return for something smaller and lighter......and, a willingness to ask for assistance in what works well for CC. That said, I love the .45 as a defensive cartridge and I love Glocks. The G30 is just too large for my hand and although I find it exceedingly accurate in timed fire for me it is not a carry option. The G36, however, fits me very well and is easy for me to conceal and shoot well. In Florida, concealment can many times be a problem but my G36 gets carried a lot.

xmanhockey7
03-12-2012, 10:37
Glock 36 - YouTube

Rick O'Shay
03-12-2012, 15:00
The G36 is also MY favorite of the Glock family. It doesn't hurt my hand at all, but all of the .40's do. They are now serving other masters, while the 36 is in the safe, waiting for its next outing with me.
The G19 is a very close second, and if I want high capacity. But if seven .45's don't get you, I'm all ***** and elbows from the scene anyhow. ;)

Lockback
03-12-2012, 20:16
There was a story posted on GT, a long time ago, of a member (IIRC) who had to defend himself and his loved one. Long story, most of it not relevant to this post, but he faced multiple attackers, and it took 9 rounds to end the confrontation I believe, and other attackers fled in the force of overwhelming response rather than press the attack which would have required even more rounds.

Average may be 2. Do you want to be the one caught without if you wind up in an "above average" situation? Carry as much as you can. Sorta goes with shoot the biggest caliber that's comfortable. Sure a man with .22 holes is less likely to want to hurt you than a man with no holes - but a man with 9mm holes, .40 holes, .45 holes, etc might be even more disinclined to do you harm.

Fair point and I won't argue with you ...










... much. :tongueout:

"In most cases", I think 7 rounds of .45ACP plus a spare magazine of 6 rounds should solve most "problems". But I confess that, all things being equal, the more rounds, the better.
But I'll take my chances, thank you very much. :supergrin:

Shark1007
03-12-2012, 21:44
I, for one, got spooked by the stories on the 36 and instead I have a Kahr CW45 and am pleased. I have a 30 that's too fat and a 21 that's too big and a 38 that's just about right.

Maybe the 36 has gotten a bad rap and the stories of failures were too many for my comfort level. Of course, the Kahr has been back to the factory more than once before I felt trust after another 500 rounds.

Good discussion, I wonder how many have been spooked away from a purchase?

Lockback
03-13-2012, 19:36
I, for one, got spooked by the stories on the 36 and instead I have a Kahr CW45 and am pleased. I have a 30 that's too fat and a 21 that's too big and a 38 that's just about right.

Maybe the 36 has gotten a bad rap and the stories of failures were too many for my comfort level. Of course, the Kahr has been back to the factory more than once before I felt trust after another 500 rounds.

Good discussion, I wonder how many have been spooked away from a purchase?
Many, I'm sure.
The G36 has always been the most controversial of Glock models. So many stories about it: failures to feed, failures to extract, jams, blah blah blah ...
I can't speak for others. I'm not saying it hasn't happened or that every failure is user-oriented. I honestly just don't know.
All I know is that mine works every time.
'Tis a mystery.

OldSchool64
03-13-2012, 19:47
, a good deal of people cannot shoot a small 45 like this, it hurts there hands.. Seriously !

Hurts my ears, but I'll deal with that if I have to.

flyandscuba
03-15-2012, 16:12
I ditched my G36 in favor of the G38 - but you're not alone, because the 45 GAP gets little respect as well...


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ArLEOret
03-30-2012, 13:02
I loved my G36 but used my Dremel to modify the frame a bit. I
Relieved the underside of the trigger guard where it meets the front strap, removed the "hook" on the front of the trigger guard and made the feel of the grip higher and the accuracy better. I have done the same thing to my G26,19, and my G23 (with LWD 40 to 9 barrel). It's not myEDC but comes close, especially at night when I go out for fast food. Stay safe!

fasteddie565
04-01-2012, 08:17
Many, I'm sure.
The G36 has always been the most controversial of Glock models. So many stories about it: failures to feed, failures to extract, jams, blah blah blah ...
I can't speak for others. I'm not saying it hasn't happened or that every failure is user-oriented. I honestly just don't know.
All I know is that mine works every time.
'Tis a mystery.

Let me start by saying I love my G 36, it was my EDC for about 3 years. I bought it used, so it had maybe 1000 rds through it. I put another 5k rds through it, not the best ammo, Wolf, Blazer as well as quality range and CCW ammo.

One day, my beloved G 36 pooped the bed, hard. Since the it has been a nightmare of FTF FTE. I believe it has to do with the RSA. I installed an aftermarket RSA, still no joy. I am not going to rebuild it with stock parts. This situation drives me crazy as I love this little gun.

Not to seem vaine, but I am a retired Special Forces Officer, Gunsite graduate and train others to shoot for a living. Just to dispel the limp wrist / shooter error comments. This gun worked flawlessly for several years.

Hopefully the rebuild will solve the issues.

My question to all of you is "How many rds do you have through your respective pistols? "Has anyone else had these issues..." FlyandScuba, I too went to a GAP (38 and 39) but mostly I now carry my Kimber Ultra Super carry, which after a little tuning, has been relentlessly dependable.

Thoughts?

Chipotle
04-03-2012, 16:21
One day, my beloved G 36 pooped the bed, hard. Since the it has been a nightmare of FTF FTE. I believe it has to do with the RSA. I installed an aftermarket RSA, still no joy. I am not going to rebuild it with stock parts. This situation drives me crazy as I love this little gun.

Not to seem vaine, but I am a retired Special Forces Officer, Gunsite graduate and train others to shoot for a living. Just to dispel the limp wrist / shooter error comments. This gun worked flawlessly for several years.

Thoughts?

I hear you on the limp-wrist thing. Boy, that gets old.

This is the first time I've heard of a G36 'going bad'. It may not be the same issue that I or others had.

There were 10+ GT members with defective G36's (FTF issues) back in 2009 when I sued Glock over my G36 (http://g36mf.blogspot.com/). You can find their names and comments at the site.

The rumors are true despite the best efforts of some loyalists.

I had high hopes to carrying a G36 - it made perfect sense weight-wise, capacity-wise, caliber-wise, size-wise for CCW.

I landed a dud. Most don't. Glock treated me like s**t for 8 months and has never acknowledged the G36 defect possibilities. I sued and won.

My advice has been consistent in these 2+ years: put 100 rounds through a used or new G36 before you pay.

Why would a seller say "no"?

Pecos Bill
04-03-2012, 16:55
Limp Wrist is an issue with many light guns. Those of us that are aware of the issue adjust without even thinking about it. I shoot mine fine. 500+ with no issues. My cousin couldn't get through a magazine without FTE's almost every other shot. Then there is what you have, just a plain bad gun. Mine is from the dreaded 2009 production year. I bought it used and didn't know anything about the troubles. Just happy I got my 1st Glock. I love my G36 it is my EDC Really glad mine turned out to be good or else the guy in front of me had it fixed. Either way, I like it.

Lockback
04-03-2012, 17:27
Let me start by saying I love my G 36, it was my EDC for about 3 years. I bought it used, so it had maybe 1000 rds through it. I put another 5k rds through it, not the best ammo, Wolf, Blazer as well as quality range and CCW ammo.

One day, my beloved G 36 pooped the bed, hard. Since the it has been a nightmare of FTF FTE. I believe it has to do with the RSA. I installed an aftermarket RSA, still no joy. I am not going to rebuild it with stock parts. This situation drives me crazy as I love this little gun.

Not to seem vaine, but I am a retired Special Forces Officer, Gunsite graduate and train others to shoot for a living. Just to dispel the limp wrist / shooter error comments. This gun worked flawlessly for several years.

Hopefully the rebuild will solve the issues.

My question to all of you is "How many rds do you have through your respective pistols? "Has anyone else had these issues..." FlyandScuba, I too went to a GAP (38 and 39) but mostly I now carry my Kimber Ultra Super carry, which after a little tuning, has been relentlessly dependable.

Thoughts?
I agree that the limp wrist thing is overdone. A good buddy of mine, who is a terrific shooter, has had a lot of problems with his G32 using factory ammo ... and I guarantee you it isn't from limp wristing.
Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't you use a stock RSA to replace your original? The original apparently lasted about 6,000 rounds. I have a spare Glock recoil spring assembly I bought new at a gun show for $24.00. If I have to spend that money every 6,000 rounds, I can't complain. :dunno:

GLOCK17DB9
04-03-2012, 18:27
Well I just gave it some respect! I purchased one on Saturday. Tomorrow I will see how much I love it!:supergrin:

fasteddie565
04-04-2012, 05:31
Limp Wrist is an issue with many light guns. Those of us that are aware of the issue adjust without even thinking about it. I shoot mine fine. 500+ with no issues. My cousin couldn't get through a magazine without FTE's almost every other shot. Then there is what you have, just a plain bad gun. Mine is from the dreaded 2009 production year. I bought it used and didn't know anything about the troubles. Just happy I got my 1st Glock. I love my G36 it is my EDC Really glad mine turned out to be good or else the guy in front of me had it fixed. Either way, I like it.


Bill you make some valid points. I carried mine for 3 years without issue. I now carry a Kimber Ultra Super carry (Another subcompact 45 acp) that runs like a scalded ape humping a singer sewing machine.

I am in the process of transitioning to a G 30 SF or one of the 45 GAP pistols. I would love to get my old G 36 back.

fasteddie565
04-04-2012, 05:34
I agree that the limp wrist thing is overdone. A good buddy of mine, who is a terrific shooter, has had a lot of problems with his G32 using factory ammo ... and I guarantee you it isn't from limp wristing.
Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't you use a stock RSA to replace your original? The original apparently lasted about 6,000 rounds. I have a spare Glock recoil spring assembly I bought new at a gun show for $24.00. If I have to spend that money every 6,000 rounds, I can't complain. :dunno:

Um because I am a bonehead and meant to say WILL replace with stock parts. Advice from my Glock Armorer, especially since the after market RSA did not solve the problem. You are correct, $25 per 6k rds is a sound investment.

fasteddie565
04-04-2012, 05:46
I hear you on the limp-wrist thing. Boy, that gets old.

This is the first time I've heard of a G36 'going bad'. It may not be the same issue that I or others had.

There were 10+ GT members with defective G36's (FTF issues) back in 2009 when I sued Glock over my G36 (http://g36mf.blogspot.com/). You can find their names and comments at the site.

The rumors are true despite the best efforts of some loyalists.

I had high hopes to carrying a G36 - it made perfect sense weight-wise, capacity-wise, caliber-wise, size-wise for CCW.

I landed a dud. Most don't. Glock treated me like s**t for 8 months and has never acknowledged the G36 defect possibilities. I sued and won.

My advice has been consistent in these 2+ years: put 100 rounds through a used or new G36 before you pay.

Why would a seller say "no"?

Chipotle,

Thanks for the note.

I remember reading about your plight several years ago. I have the exact same malfunctions.....

Chipotle
04-04-2012, 11:11
Chipotle,

Thanks for the note.

I remember reading about your plight several years ago. I have the exact same malfunctions.....

FastEddie565:

Pic #1 looks familiar, but not sure about pic #2. Pic #1 is the same issue that I and others had, and it proves that 'limp-wristing' is clearly not the source. See my pictures (http://g36mf.blogspot.com/).

Limp-wristing suggests weakness in the grip, wrist or arm tension, and that weakness is absorbing more recoil than the gun was designed for. Hence, the slide fails to fully come back to grab the next round.

The mf that was the subject of my beef with Glock, and appears to be the issue in your first picture, was that the slide DID come back all the way and grab the next round. The problem was it failed to pull the spent case all the way out and eject it from the pistol.

Slide function or grip strength wasn't the cause - failure to extract/eject the spent casing was the problem. A limp-wrist mf can be cleared with a tap-rack - this G36 mf cannot.

Glock replaced my extractor twice over those 8 months. That did not solve the problem.

I've spent a lot of $$$ trying to find a good single-stack .45. I'm on my fifth 1911 (SA Loaded Champion). It is sweet, and *almost* as good as I had expected the G36 to be. In hindsight, I should have played the odds and just bought another G36.

fasteddie565
04-05-2012, 03:03
I did exactly that. But I sold it after I thought I had he issue solved with the new RSA. Doh

hdr1trip
04-05-2012, 12:00
I'm new here,and new to the G 36, had it for two months and fired about 500 rounds. love it,shoots where I point it.
have a 1911 and S&W mod. 66, shoot both at indoor range to stay proficient ...

highfructosecornsyrp
04-05-2012, 14:12
I got a crazy deal on a 36, couldn't walk away from it. Since then I have contemplated trading it away, but the longer I have it the more I realize it truly is the best concealed carry gun I could buy. The only thing that could give it a run for it's money is a subcompact 1911. However, because those things cost twice as much as this glock, the glock wins.

The only improvement I could make is for them to offer a 5 round magazine that fits flush. Honestly, a 6 shooter is enough for me and I can carry a reload or two so...what's important is how well the thing carries and massive capacity tends to bring down carryability...I wish that guy that made a 5 round magazine was still around, I'd like to buy a magazine and make one...

Anyone know how to do it, please PM me...I don't understand whether he used the bottom or top of the baseplate after grinding it down...

CanyonMan
04-05-2012, 15:16
There was a story posted on GT, a long time ago, of a member (IIRC) who had to defend himself and his loved one. Long story, most of it not relevant to this post, but he faced multiple attackers, and it took 9 rounds to end the confrontation I believe, and other attackers fled in the force of overwhelming response rather than press the attack which would have required even more rounds.

Average may be 2. Do you want to be the one caught without if you wind up in an "above average" situation? Carry as much as you can. Sorta goes with shoot the biggest caliber that's comfortable. Sure a man with .22 holes is less likely to want to hurt you than a man with no holes - but a man with 9mm holes, .40 holes, .45 holes, etc might be even more disinclined to do you harm.


That is why with one in the chamber and six in the mag and a extra mag in my rear jeans ocket I now got 13 rds of 230gr 45's. If that does not work I am screwed any way. ;)

6/7 is generally going to be enough in most all cases, but if one feels the need for a different senerio may happen to me case, then simply pop another mag in your pocket... ;)





CM

Chipotle
04-05-2012, 15:30
Here is a G36 in action. Two shots to the stomach was more than enough.

Shooting was last year up in Dayton.

Link to video. (http://fox.daytonsnewssource.com/shared/newsroom/raw_news/videos/vid_47.shtml)

Link to story at Ohio Concealed Carry Org. (http://www.ohioccw.org/201106244938/chl-holder-uses-firearm-in-defense-against-attack.html)

The Ohio Concealed Carry site has a forum where there is a LONG thread (http://ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=53502&start=0) on this shooting, which includes the shooter and a bunch of Facebook screenshots of the assailants talking smack among their friends. If you have a few hours to kill...

Lockback
04-05-2012, 18:36
Um because I am a bonehead and meant to say WILL replace with stock parts. Advice from my Glock Armorer, especially since the after market RSA did not solve the problem. You are correct, $25 per 6k rds is a sound investment.

Ahhhh, that makes sense. :wavey:

Overall, particularly with Glocks, I'm a believer in stock parts replacements.
Glad you like your Kimber Ultra Super Carry. Another terrific compact .45!

Lockback
04-05-2012, 18:37
Here is a G36 in action. Two shots to the stomach was more than enough.

Shooting was last year up in Dayton.

Link to video. (http://fox.daytonsnewssource.com/shared/newsroom/raw_news/videos/vid_47.shtml)

Link to story at Ohio Concealed Carry Org. (http://www.ohioccw.org/201106244938/chl-holder-uses-firearm-in-defense-against-attack.html)

The Ohio Concealed Carry site has a forum where there is a LONG thread (http://ohioccwforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=53502&start=0) on this shooting, which includes the shooter and a bunch of Facebook screenshots of the assailants talking smack among their friends. If you have a few hours to kill...
Great links.
I never saw that the G36 was specifically mentioned but I know you're a man of your word and take your word on it.:highfive:

Mc45
04-05-2012, 20:12
Maybe my friends here can help me? I carry a G30SF every day in one of two IBW holsters it is very comfortable I almost forget its there. It shoots great and I've had no issues. But I have a desire for a more compact 45 acp the G36 is the same size frame with less capacity which I'm willing to loose but I can't see buying the same gun with less capacity. Has anyone shot or do they own a Kahr CW45 or a PM45? That's what I'm leaning to. I looked at a PM45 today the spring was so strong I had a hard time getting it locked open but it felt great in my hand. Has any one had any experience with Kahr arms? I'm looking for some trusted advice here so any ideas about compact 45s is greatly appreciated.
Thanks. Mc45


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SK2344
04-05-2012, 22:14
I don't pay much attention to what the so called experts say! I have always carried the gun that I think is best suited for my needs at the time. My choice for a 9mm Duty weapon was the G19 and my EDC is now the G36. I should have gone to the G36 many years ago and it would have saved me much money on other guns and holsters. I also love my G30SF which I have as a car gun and I still have my original EDC, the G26. These 4 Glocks are all that I need and all that I will ever want and as for the so called experts .......... who cares what they think!

TSAX
04-05-2012, 23:48
The Glock 36 is a nice weapon its like many guns some like it some dont, to each his own, many people hate on the GAP models, C models, OD models, Gen 4 models, sometimes it doesnt matter what other f--king people think. If you like it more power to you. Ive always liked it.








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fasteddie565
04-08-2012, 21:36
Maybe my friends here can help me? I carry a G30SF every day in one of two IBW holsters it is very comfortable I almost forget its there. It shoots great and I've had no issues. But I have a desire for a more compact 45 acp the G36 is the same size frame with less capacity which I'm willing to loose but I can't see buying the same gun with less capacity. Has anyone shot or do they own a Kahr CW45 or a PM45? That's what I'm leaning to. I looked at a PM45 today the spring was so strong I had a hard time getting it locked open but it felt great in my hand. Has any one had any experience with Kahr arms? I'm looking for some trusted advice here so any ideas about compact 45s is greatly appreciated.
Thanks. Mc45


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My business partner bought one and the magazines split. Both if them. He sold it the next day

highfructosecornsyrp
04-09-2012, 06:57
I got a crazy deal on a 36, couldn't walk away from it. Since then I have contemplated trading it away, but the longer I have it the more I realize it truly is the best concealed carry gun I could buy. The only thing that could give it a run for it's money is a subcompact 1911. However, because those things cost twice as much as this glock, the glock wins.

The only improvement I could make is for them to offer a 5 round magazine that fits flush. Honestly, a 6 shooter is enough for me and I can carry a reload or two so...what's important is how well the thing carries and massive capacity tends to bring down carryability...I wish that guy that made a 5 round magazine was still around, I'd like to buy a magazine and make one...

Anyone know how to do it, please PM me...I don't understand whether he used the bottom or top of the baseplate after grinding it down...

Ok I looked at the mag and I figured out how to do it...next time I see a cheap 36 magazine I'm going to go ahead and cut it down. Wish that guy was still around to see how well it worked in the long run. Oh well...

fasteddie565
04-22-2012, 06:57
Ahhhh, that makes sense. :wavey:

Overall, particularly with Glocks, I'm a believer in stock parts replacements.
Glad you like your Kimber Ultra Super Carry. Another terrific compact .45!


An update....

New RSA, new extractor group (Rod spring, plunger and extractor) and a new slide lock (The old one was bent)

I installed the slide lock wrong initially, but had no issues with highend Remington ammo. Reinstalled the slide lock and will hit the range again today for a final report.

Do you guys shoot reloads and lesser quality ammo? Any issues?

Range report.

After 150 rds of Aguilla (sp) 230 grn RN FMJ I had ZERO issues. I had one brand new factory mag, a used factory mag and a Pierce +1 magazine. It shot well. I am about 300-400 rds from passing final judgement. My next test is to shoot some blazer or wolf through it.

Hopefully we can put her back in the line up.

fasteddie565
04-25-2012, 18:26
An update....

New RSA, new extractor group (Rod spring, plunger and extractor) and a new slide lock (The old one was bent)

I installed the slide lock wrong initially, but had no issues with highend Remington ammo. Reinstalled the slide lock and will hit the range again today for a final report.

Do you guys shoot reloads and lesser quality ammo? Any issues?

Range report.

After 150 rds of Aguilla (sp) 230 grn RN FMJ I had ZERO issues. I had one brand new factory mag, a used factory mag and a Pierce +1 magazine. It shot well. I am about 300-400 rds from passing final judgement. My next test is to shoot some blazer or wolf through it.

Hopefully we can put her back in the line up.


OK, 150 rds of Blazer Al case ammo with zero issues. I believe I may have fixed the issue. I will put about 200 more rounds through her and place my beloved G 36 back in the line up.

Lockback
05-04-2012, 19:51
OK, 150 rds of Blazer Al case ammo with zero issues. I believe I may have fixed the issue. I will put about 200 more rounds through her and place my beloved G 36 back in the line up.
Nice! Let us know how it's going!

fasteddie565
05-05-2012, 07:38
Nice! Let us know how it's going!


I just started reloading again after 20 years. I loaded about 100 230 grn RN FMJ with a moderate powder charge. If she shoots these OK, I think I am back in business.

ETA I fired 50 rds of 230 grn rn fmj reloads yesterday, all without a hitch. I am almost there. Now for a few boxes of Speer GDHP (Carry ammo) and I am good to go.

Lockback
05-08-2012, 16:18
I just started reloading again after 20 years. I loaded about 100 230 grn RN FMJ with a moderate powder charge. If she shoots these OK, I think I am back in business.

ETA I fired 50 rds of 230 grn rn fmj reloads yesterday, all without a hitch. I am almost there. Now for a few boxes of Speer GDHP (Carry ammo) and I am good to go.
I'm reloading again too, after a lapse of about 12 years. One thing: the G36 doesn't like wimp loads. :supergrin:

CanyonMan
05-17-2012, 15:43
An update....

New RSA, new extractor group (Rod spring, plunger and extractor) and a new slide lock (The old one was bent)

I installed the slide lock wrong initially, but had no issues with highend Remington ammo. Reinstalled the slide lock and will hit the range again today for a final report.

Do you guys shoot reloads and lesser quality ammo? Any issues?

Range report.

After 150 rds of Aguilla (sp) 230 grn RN FMJ I had ZERO issues. I had one brand new factory mag, a used factory mag and a Pierce +1 magazine. It shot well. I am about 300-400 rds from passing final judgement. My next test is to shoot some blazer or wolf through it.

Hopefully we can put her back in the line up.



OK amigo.... Do NOT be offended in any way here..
I have a ton of Glocks and a ton of everything. I EDC "when I go to town," a M1911 45acp I am an old dude and set in my ways and just think 45acp is the way to go.

I have among all these toys a G36. I got around 1500+ rds through it of all kinds of factory loads, and a ton of my Hand loads that are hot .. Strong +P's.

I have NEVER had one issue fron this gun of ANY kind at all...

I am sorry your having issues, BUT. As much of a pain in the butt as it may be. I assure you, that if new mag springs don't fix it, and even if you drop in a all new trigger bar extractor/ejector extractor rod and spring with bearing. Even if you drop 45.00 on all this and put all new guts in... i cannot believe it will not shoot 100% unless it is shooters error... Now don't get PO'd at me. My brother had the same problem with his 3"+ 45's, sent back and forth to the factory, and NO resolve. I kept telling him it is his grip.. he got semi angry.. haha

He kept this up until he finally listened to me. Once I showed him the right way to shoot these little 45's he now dropped the ego, and keeps all his rounds in the 10 ring.

Moral here: I do not believe your gun is shot to heck. I would lay out oh 60.00/75.00 and replace all the parts, now you "know" there is NOT a parts problem, (the little gun is really worth it man) then get some good quality 230gr FMJ's and go to town with it. If it continues to jam..... It is you ! :whistling:

These G36's shoot great and all this problematic crap is 98% internet crap, the rest is shooter error, i do not care if a man has been shooting 44 mags all his life, (as I have) he can still have shooter error with the smaller 45's I see it all the time teaching folks to shoot combat.

Just a suggestion amigo, but I would buy new mag springs, and ALL new inards for the reciever and a new extractor, plunger rod and spring and bearing and if that does not run 100% with everything fed to it... Polish the feed ramp to a mirror.. if it still jams.... It is you.

I assure you what I am telling you will at least put your mind at rest and not cost you much more than 75.00. It is worth it pard..


I have two things done to my 36 and all my glocks frankly despite the "experts on GT", I always mirror polish the feed ramp and chamber, and put a 3.5 # connector in. The connector is just cause I want to.. But the polish jobs have, I believe, helped. I can say this to you that in every caliber Glock I own, and that is a plenty, I hand load for them all, and have never had one issue with any of them in 14 years.

Hopes this helps some amigo..


Bless ya








CM

tankermw
06-09-2012, 16:06
I just got gack from the range and my 36 performed as usual ....FLAWLESS. Mine was used and had a problem initially but since getting the slide stop replaced I'm approx 800 rds in and not one problem. It's usually my IWB carry. I love mine because...it's a 45, it's light to carry, I can sweat all over it and it doesn't rust, and it's a Glock. Fits in well with my 19 and 23.

OMEGA5
06-10-2012, 10:22
It gets no respect.
Two of my favorite gun people, Massad Ayoob and hickock45 - of YouTube fame - ignore it. Both say the G30 packs more rounds and is therefore better. Or that the same-sized Baby Glocks carry more rounds in an even smaller package. :crying:
I've had mine for over ten years and it's my EDC gun. (I also have a Gen2 G19 that I love, but the G36 fits my hand and conceals even a little better).
I mean, to each their own. And I respect the opinions of experienced gun guys like Mas and hickock45, who have put many more rounds downrange than I ever have and served in law enforcement. But I still think the G36 is a terrific carry gun. With 7 rounds of .45ACP on hand plus a quick 6-round reload, you're talking up to 13 Big Boys on tap. My gun has been totally reliable. No issues.
So what gives? Why doesn't the G36 get any love? :dunno:

What say you?

The 36 is like a mule in the 19th century. The mule done the
work, kept people fed, clothed and in supply of everything
necessary for everyday life but didn't get a second glance.
Only a few people knew that the best riding animal on the
planet was the mule and knew how versatile it could be.

The 36 is like the mule. It's not pretty, but it gets the job
done and is as reliable as the sun rising in the east. Only
a few people understand, that's the real beauty in any
firearm. The 36 really is a beautiful weapon.
Dano :harley:

Rob1109
06-22-2012, 20:51
Well I just gave it some respect! I purchased one on Saturday. Tomorrow I will see how much I love it!:supergrin:

I have a 26 and would like to know what the size differences between the 26 and the 36. I'm happy with the size I'd the 26. Thanks in advance.

Wetrudgeon
06-23-2012, 05:33
Rob:
Somebody posted some photos of the two for size comparison around this forum within the past few days. Can't find the message string (too lazy to search very hard), but you may want to try the search and see if you can come up with it. There were a couple of excellent photos that made for good size comparison.

We trudge on.

eagle00
06-26-2012, 00:16
For a poster of a side by side comparison of the G-36 + the G-26, Google "pictures glock 36". Scroll down to the fifth page and you will see the 36 + 26 together; a poster with a red border. Also, go to
http://us.glock.com/products. The Glock web-site has 360 degree rotational pictures of all their models. You can get a view of every angle you desire, paste + copy them for a side by side comparison.
For me, the most critical measurements for CCW are the width + height of the pistol. The G-36 is "considerably" thinner than the G-26 as far as CCW is concerned. Though on paper the thicknesses are not that different, for me it does translate into an appreciable difference on my waistband, as I am not a big guy. The G-26 is appreciably shorter in height. You just need to make a decision on the trade-offs: Capacity of 10+1 9mm vs. 6+1 .45ACP; Width; Height; etc...
Best of luck.

slainer
06-26-2012, 17:03
Just picked up my new G36! Put a Pearce +1 on one mag and left the other flush for ccw. It has a date of 4/2012. hot off the line! Feels great! Good shooter! Any recommendations on a IWB holster? Simple not expensive! Looking to put a Glock nite sight on the front also.... And thats it!!
Slainer

GLOCK17DB9
06-26-2012, 17:07
I love this gun for concealed carry. I also love taking it to the range and making large holes in things! Thats why I have 2!:supergrin:

eagle00
06-26-2012, 17:47
I searched for a thin kydex IWB holster for my G-36. Saw many manufacturers but was drawn to PJ Holsters because of lack of "bulkiness" of the holster, a good price and satisfaction guarantee. His website is pjholsters.com. I got the canted deep concealment holster for the G-36 and I am most pleased with it. It is very comfortable (I like thin and not bulky IWB holsters) and very easy to re-holster the firearm when needed. I also like the trigger on a Glock to be fully encased in order to avoid any possible "Murphy's Law" circumstances with it inadvertently snagging, getting caught, etc... resulting in an accidental discharge. All other companies selling kydex holsters encase the trigger, but I like the size, thickness (lack of) and replacement guarantee of PJ's.

Best of luck.

amacro
07-03-2012, 10:05
Picked one up in Ocala Gun Show price was not so great but not bad $540 out the door- I've wanted one of these for years! I've got a Sig P220 compact SAS smooth shooter but to fat for EDC for me anyway - looking to do some mods like a 3.5 lb trigger which seems popular also looking at night sights options, anyway this gun fits my hand like a glove, I'm thrilled fits in my G19 holster perfectly it's a cobraskin brand kydex/leather IWB made here in Florida. Waiting to go shooting, so I've joined the club and looking forward to many years of peaceful carrying!:wavey:
Al

Pecos Bill
07-03-2012, 22:30
Here is the pic of the 26 vs the 36

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1427110

mrmedina
07-04-2012, 09:35
My G36 is going on 5 years for CCW. I always feel safe with it. :wavey:

Jack23
07-27-2012, 01:05
WhenI bought my 36 in November of '06 I soon joined this forum. I may have posted some in here shortly there after but it has been a while since I've even looked in on this forum. In the almost 6 years and after exactly 3,000 rounds I have gotten to know this little gun very very well. I rotate several different guns that I carry regards the weather how I'm dressed or what I'll be doing but I carry my trusty 36 more often than all the others put together. Despite it's short sight radius it is very accurate and 100% dependable like my other 3 Glocks. I just can't overstate what a great gun this is. I carry it with 2 extra mags either in an IWB, OWB or shoulder holster. It conceals easily and is so comfortable that after I've had it on for a few minutes I forget I'm wearing it.

As far as Mas and Hickock and their opinions are concerned I know that they are both very knowledgeable but they are human and therefore imperfect. I will listen to other but I form my OWN opinions based upon my OWN experiences, preferences and perceptions.

I dislike reading all the negative comments about it. I guess a lot of people have had problems with it but mine had been flawless. I actually put off getting it for about a year because of all the terrible things I was reading here on GT. But it was exactly what I wanted to carry. A small single stack .45acp. I had been carrying my 23 for the last couple of years but I'm a .45 kinda guy and I really wanted to get a 36.

I finally decided to take the leap of faith and get one. I figured that if I didn't like it I could always palm it off on my brother-in-law. heh heh heh. But the only thing I didn't like was that I wasted all that time before I got it.

Now, anytime I see someone post that they just got a new 36 or they are thinking about getting a new 36 I always jump in and offer positive comments and opinions. And I don't have to exaggerate either. In fact it would not be possible to exaggerate because it has lived up to and exceeded my every expectation. I was a little uneasy with it for a while but I kept having one good range trip and experience with it after another and now, nearly 6 years and 3K rounds later I'm still lovin' it.

mj9mm
07-27-2012, 02:08
For a poster of a side by side comparison of the G-36 + the G-26, Google "pictures glock 36". Scroll down to the fifth page and you will see the 36 + 26 together; a poster with a red border. Also, go to
http://us.glock.com/products. The Glock web-site has 360 degree rotational pictures of all their models. You can get a view of every angle you desire, paste + copy them for a side by side comparison.
For me, the most critical measurements for CCW are the width + height of the pistol. The G-36 is "considerably" thinner than the G-26 as far as CCW is concerned. Though on paper the thicknesses are not that different, for me it does translate into an appreciable difference on my waistband, as I am not a big guy. The G-26 is appreciably shorter in height. You just need to make a decision on the trade-offs: Capacity of 10+1 9mm vs. 6+1 .45ACP; Width; Height; etc...
Best of luck.

that says it all, i am on the thin side, and carrying the 30 made me dress like i was hiding something, that little differance of the 36 lets me dress normal and i feel less nervous about printing
oh, and i have an issue with the "Rodney" comments, i consider the 36 to be the "Marilynn Monroe" of glocks, i think she's beautiful:embarassed:

ColdDayInHell
08-02-2012, 00:12
It's true, hickok likes most guns and never gives bad reviews. He was rather unhappy with the G36. I still carry mine and have been this summer. I am learning to tame the recoil and shoot accurately. I do love the gun though and with Pearce Plus Zero extensions, the mag fits like a glove.

Lockback
11-12-2012, 18:10
Interesting experience at the range yesterday ...
My shooting buddy and I were shooting next to a couple of Glock guys. One had a G27 with Hogue slip-on grips and a +1 mag extension, the other fellow was putting his Gen 3 G19 through its paces. Both appeared to be experienced shooters and, judging by their paper targets, were quite accomplished and comfortable with their handguns.
I had my Gen 2 G19 and my first-year-of-production G36 with me and my buddy had his Steyr M40 A1, a gun I'd pick up if I were in the market for some new Tupperware ... A highly underrated firearm. But I digress ...
So the four of us chatted a bit between sessions of sending lead downrange. I mentioned I'd never shot one of the Glock sub-compacts and the G27 fellow kindly handed me his to shoot. (I loved it, by the way!)
So, in the interest of fairness, I offered both of them the opportunity to shoot my G36, commenting as I handed it to them, "Some people love the gun, some hate it. It jams for some guys but never jams for me."
G27 Guy aims and sends a 230 gr. FMJ slug downrange ...and the gun jams.
He clears it and shoots two more rounds and hands it to his buddy, who aims, fires ... and has a jam.
Now keep in mind these were experienced shooters and experienced Glock shooters. Both admitted they might have limp-wristed it a bit. I have no doubt had they shot it more, they would have adjusted and I am in no way criticizing them.
But, just as a point of interest, neither I nor my buddy had one jam with the 36. Same ammo the other guys were shooting. It never jams for me, otherwise it wouldn't be my EDC gun.
I hate to say it but obviously the proper grip is very important with this gun, which mirrors what others have said.

MeanAction
11-23-2012, 05:34
This is my EDC and never a problem.