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xmanhockey7
03-12-2012, 13:22
This is for those who are in Michigan and would be interested in attending an open carry lunch. You do not have to open carry or anything it's a pretty good time and a great chance to talk guns and other stuff with like minded people.

Battle Creek:
http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=165075

Big Rapids:
http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=170467

Port Huron:
http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=169165

Saginaw:
http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=170137

Just1More
03-12-2012, 18:41
Stirring up the anti's on purpose is not a good idea. Look how well it worked for California OC'ers. Just saying.

zbusdriver
03-12-2012, 19:23
Stirring up the anti's on purpose is not a good idea. Look how well it worked for California OC'ers. Just saying.Exactly!

xmanhockey7
03-13-2012, 03:43
We're not stirring anybody up.

Unistat
03-13-2012, 08:59
Stirring up the anti's on purpose is not a good idea. Look how well it worked for California OC'ers. Just saying.

Not an issue in Michigan because, as I'm sure you realize, Michigan is not California. God bless federalism.

xmanhockey7
03-13-2012, 14:32
Not an issue in Michigan because, as I'm sure you realize, Michigan is not California. God bless federalism.

Exactly. This is what a person who has been OCing in Michigan for a while now had to say about OC in Michigan. I have to say he's spot on.

In my experience it hasn't been an "OC vs. CC" thing. It has been a "CC vs. OC" thing with some CC'ers going out of their way to attempt to prove that CC is better than OC... but the OC'ers I have met and interacted with online are not against CC. Quite the contrary since many of them not only OC but also CC and, I will opine, that most of them understand that the right to bear arms means exactly that... the right to bear arms in any way, any manner, covered up or in plain sight... it is still "the right to bear arms".

I have seen first hand how OC, and the resulting media coverage, has caused the general public in Michigan to become aware that OC is not only their right but is also legal. I have watched how attitudes have changed over the past 3 years to the point where it is now rare for anyone, even so called "soccer moms with kids and mini vans", to give an openly carried gun a second glance.

Oddly enough... OC has caused the sight of a gun on the hip of an ordinary person to become not much of a big deal in Michigan..

I have seen OC'ers go to council meetings and demand that illegal ordinances that ban the carrying of guns in any manner whether OC or CC be changed. And had CC'ers at those meetings ridicule, berate, and insult, the OC'er who wants the government to obey the law. And when those ordinances are changed not only do the OC'ers win but CC'ers win too because that ordinance banned guns for both!

And I'm still waiting for CC'ers to acknowledge that OC has caused the public to become more knowledgeable about right to bear arms, has cause the public to become more accustomed to seeing guns, and that the sight of openly carried guns has caused the public to overcome much of it's negative beliefs about people who carry guns.

And guess what? All that good stuff that OC has caused spills over and benefits CC too.

So I do not think it is OC'ers vs. CC'ers..... sadly I believe it is the CC'ers who pit themselves against the OC'ers.

OldSchool64
03-13-2012, 20:55
I'm a CC'er and do not open carry. Why not? OC does draw attention to ones self weather that is the intention or not. I naturally don't blend in with a crowd very well and I can do without the added attention. I like to keep life interesting but I also like to keep life simple.

That being said.. I'll also say I think open carry is great! I like to hear when OC'ing makes the news, helps make it not such a big deal.

What hapened with the guy who OC'ed while voting at a public school? From what I understand he was questioned by police and allowed to vote. No immediate charges but apparently there is a potential problem because public schools are a "pistol free zone" The OC'er was saying the because he had a CPL (Concealed Pistol License) he was allowed to OC in pistol free zones. I hadn't heard that before and haven't checked on that yet.

Unistat
03-13-2012, 21:17
What hapened with the guy who OC'ed while voting at a public school? From what I understand he was questioned by police and allowed to vote. No immediate charges but apparently there is a potential problem because public schools are a "pistol free zone" The OC'er was saying the because he had a CPL (Concealed Pistol License) he was allowed to OC in pistol free zones. I hadn't heard that before and haven't checked on that yet.

He was not and will not be charged. It is true, with a carry permit, one can OC (and only OC) in most Michigan Pistol Free Zones. All of this is spelled out really nice in MSP Legal Update #89 (Google it.)

For the record, I CC 99% of the time. The only time I OC is when I'm in one of those PFZs. However, I think it is important for gun rights for OC to be recognized and accepted as legal.

xmanhockey7
03-14-2012, 02:47
He was not and will not be charged. It is true, with a carry permit, one can OC (and only OC) in most Michigan Pistol Free Zones. All of this is spelled out really nice in MSP Legal Update #89 (Google it.)

For the record, I CC 99% of the time. The only time I OC is when I'm in one of those PFZs. However, I think it is important for gun rights for OC to be recognized and accepted as legal.

Actually it's legal update #86 but yeah you're right other than that :D

Unistat
03-14-2012, 17:27
Actually it's legal update #86 but yeah you're right other than that :D

Whoops!

boose88
03-15-2012, 23:25
Do you find a lot of people in MI that OC? Where are they?

I live about 25 miles north of Detroit and have seen 2 people in 24 years OC. My father and I find it very odd as if they person open carrying is trying to prove something.

HOWEVER I only feel this way because it is not common practice in my area. I only CC .

This post was not meant to offend your views and I hope you respond with some knowledge about the subject for myself :) thank you

xmanhockey7
03-16-2012, 05:54
Do you find a lot of people in MI that OC? Where are they?

I live about 25 miles north of Detroit and have seen 2 people in 24 years OC. My father and I find it very odd as if they person open carrying is trying to prove something.

HOWEVER I only feel this way because it is not common practice in my area. I only CC .

This post was not meant to offend your views and I hope you respond with some knowledge about the subject for myself :) thank you

A lot of people who OC seem to be in south east MI (general Detroit area). Although we do have OCers all over the state. Those of us who OC on a consistant basis and a lot of the people who do choose to OC do not do it to prove anything. They, like concealed carriers, hope to never have to use their firearm in SD. Many of us OCers look at it as a deterrent for crime. We do have many cases where the sight of an openly carried gun prevent crime, mostly robbery.

The reason you may not have seen many OCers could be because 1. they were some place you were you just didn't notice them OCing; 2. It's not like hundreds of thousands of people who OC in Michigan. While there are many people who do the number is just not that high. We only have a little over 300,000 CPL holders in MI and most OCers do have a CPL. Typically the ones who don't are those of us under 21 or those who are in the process of getting one.

If you are curious about OC I'd suggest checking out that website I have in the links above and look for an OC meeting near you. And don't worry you in no way offended me. You response was very respectful and showed you realized that you only knew your side of OC and not the other side.