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my762buzz
03-12-2012, 23:15
Which recoils harder from having tested both in your hands?

Assume using full power loads like heavy slugs and heavy bullets.

skeeter7
03-13-2012, 01:44
I'm gonna go with the pistol grip only shotgun here by far. I put five 3" 00Buck through my Mossberg 500 last year and my hand killed me for about a week. I've shot my buddy's 500 a few times and it isn't even really that bad to me. I thought his .44 Mag kicked worse.

WoodenPlank
03-13-2012, 01:49
Haven't shot a .500, but I have shot a .460, and a PGO 12ga. They both suck, just for different reasons. The 12ga felt like a kick in the wrist from a mule, and the .460 felt like I got slapped in the face, due to the concussion from the cylinder gap and muzzle brake.

MarcDW
03-13-2012, 02:28
25 years ago I had already a Grizzly in .45 Win Mag.
So when the .500 S&W came out I had one of the first.
I made a total of 5 rounds and my elbows hurt the next day!
If you hold the Shotgun right, it is not as bad as the .500 S&W, but I would not use either one these days.

Rustin
03-13-2012, 03:25
The 12ga felt like a kick in the wrist from a mule, and the .460 felt like I got slapped in the face, due to the concussion from the cylinder gap and muzzle brake.

:rofl:

Novocaine
03-13-2012, 13:23
For me it's hard to tell. I think shotgun has more recoil. If you're shooting shotgun from the hip (which there is no reason for other than farting around) it definitely puts more strain on the wrist. Then again I never shot 500 from the hip. Don't own 500, shot it only once, someone at the range let me put couple of cylinders through his. That gun was heavy and had a comp. Certainly flashy but didn't impress me as hard-kicking. OTOH I’ve done a lot of dynamic shooting with pistol gripped (no stock) 870, mostly with a birdshot but with a fair share of buckshot and slugs too. VERY few magnums. Even with familiarity factor I’d say shotgun is subjectively a heavier kicker.

DonD
03-13-2012, 14:35
Well, as one poster said about "farting around", can't answer that question but some may be amused at the following.

I shot my Ruger No. 1 in .458 Win Mag one handed. Hard enough to hold it at the pistol grip as it is, got through it w/o incident. Wasn't a max load but heavy enough. Won't do that again. Don :supergrin:

Batesmotel
03-13-2012, 16:01
I own a 500 and have shot both light birdshot and slugs from a pistol shotgun. the 500 and the birdshot were about the same. The slugs were BRUTAL!

my762buzz
03-13-2012, 22:16
The hardest kicking slugs I tried in a pistol grip only 870 were Breneke 600 grain slugs @ 1500 fps.

It had a bit of a sting but was controllable enough.

I guess from what is being stated a 500 should be no more brutal.

Feanor
03-13-2012, 22:35
"Ahh" the average 2 3/4" 12 ga slug delivers in the vicinity of 2200 fpe at the muzzle. 3" magnums can get well over 3000 fpe at the muzzle. Shooting these from a pistol gripped shotgun would be a very memorable experience, far far more memorable than a S&W 500 magnum could ever hope to be.

DonD
03-14-2012, 07:31
"Ahh" the average 2 3/4" 12 ga slug delivers in the vicinity of 2200 fpe at the muzzle. 3" magnums can get well over 3000 fpe at the muzzle. Shooting these from a pistol gripped shotgun would be a very memorable experience, far far more memorable than a S&W 500 magnum could ever hope to be.

Using your numbers against you, a full load 500 Mag can be 2600 ft lbs and if you seat the slugs out, they can go to around 3100 ft lbs. Don