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The_Gun_Guru
03-13-2012, 22:21
***** UPDATE *****
SEE POST #16 BELOW



in the $400 range?

I want a good suppressor but I don't want to spend $1000. Can anyone reccomend a brand that won't break the bank?


THANKS!!!

TGG

D3S3RT_P3NGU1N
03-14-2012, 08:17
The Silencerco Sparrow would probably be my choice if I had to choose just 1 .22 suppressor.

MSRP is $499 but you can find them for close to you $400 budget(I assume $400 doesn't include the $200 tax stamp)

They're great quality and a breeze to take apart for cleaning. You can burn through a ton of ammo with it and never worry about being able to get it apart. They're also very tough and rated to shoot 5.7x28mm if that appeals to you.

The biggest criticism of the Sparrow is that it has a some FRP(First Round Pop). Personally I don't find it to be that big of a deal but if it really bothers you there is the option to spend an extra $100 and go for something like the AAC Element which has very little FRP. The Element is also about 2oz lighter.

One thing worth mentioning when it comes to suppressors, you're better off paying the extra money to get the one you really want. There is very little market for most used suppressors, so if you buy one you can't just sell it later and upgrade if you don't like it, you're stuck with it. So spend the extra $$$ to get one with the features you want, because you're probably going to be stuck with it for good.

MarcDW
03-14-2012, 10:34
Get a YHMC Mite $299 or GemTech ALPINE $450.

http://yhm.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_20&products_id=168&zenid=89ff372f36c6ba3901f7c7868c70f50f

www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/ALPINE-13p55.htm

ronin.45
03-15-2012, 13:09
The Silencerco Sparrow would probably be my choice if I had to choose just 1 .22 suppressor.

MSRP is $499 but you can find them for close to you $400 budget(I assume $400 doesn't include the $200 tax stamp)

They're great quality and a breeze to take apart for cleaning. You can burn through a ton of ammo with it and never worry about being able to get it apart. They're also very tough and rated to shoot 5.7x28mm if that appeals to you.

The biggest criticism of the Sparrow is that it has a some FRP(First Round Pop). Personally I don't find it to be that big of a deal but if it really bothers you there is the option to spend an extra $100 and go for something like the AAC Element which has very little FRP. The Element is also about 2oz lighter.

One thing worth mentioning when it comes to suppressors, you're better off paying the extra money to get the one you really want. There is very little market for most used suppressors, so if you buy one you can't just sell it later and upgrade if you don't like it, you're stuck with it. So spend the extra $$$ to get one with the features you want, because you're probably going to be stuck with it for good.

Yup^^

rgb03
03-15-2012, 19:29
For the p-22 you have to go with an element. It's a little more then your budget but you will be happy. Buy once cry once.

GarySTL
03-15-2012, 19:31
I use an AAC Aviator on my P22, Ruger Mk III, and 10/22.


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sdsnet
03-15-2012, 19:51
Get a YHMC Mite $299 or GemTech ALPINE $450.

http://yhm.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_20&products_id=168&zenid=89ff372f36c6ba3901f7c7868c70f50f

www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/ALPINE-13p55.htm (http://www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/ALPINE-13p55.htm)

Cool, after clicking the gem-tech link I see that Gemtec will rebuild my Outback II for $150 and make it user serviceable as well. By the way I have a P22 and the Outback II has been a very good low cost suppressor with quiet first shot performance.

The_Gun_Guru
03-15-2012, 22:00
(I assume $400 doesn't include the $200 tax stamp)

Correct.

They're also very tough and rated to shoot 5.7x28mm if that appeals to you.

No, but .22 WMR does! What do you think the odds are of Kel-Tec offering a threaded barrel for the PMR-30?


Get a YHMC Mite $299 or GemTech ALPINE $450.

http://yhm.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=14_20&products_id=168&zenid=89ff372f36c6ba3901f7c7868c70f50f

www.gem-tech.com/store/pc/ALPINE-13p55.htm

Those look nice:wow:

For the p-22 you have to go with an element. It's a little more then your budget but you will be happy. Buy once cry once.

I like that one a lot. What about the Pilot 2...just as good?


Cool, after clicking the gem-tech link I see that Gemtec will rebuild my Outback II for $150 and make it user serviceable as well. By the way I have a P22 and the Outback II has been a very good low cost suppressor with quiet first shot performance.

I have read that they do go bad after a while. What's an average "lifespan" for a suppressor?


ALSO....

As far as dB reduction - what's considered good? I have seen that most are in the 35 - 40 range. Is that decent?:dunno:


THANKS ALL for the quick replies!


TGG

rgb03
03-16-2012, 09:53
Not sure about the pilot 2. The only 22lr can I own is the element and other then the end cap it has performed great.
They have fixed the end cap on the new element so you shouldn't have to worry about that.

I have the p-22, ruger mkii/ pac lite, savage fv-sr, and a 22lr cmmg sbr for hosts and they all sound great. They all basically sound like a bb gun and are basement quiet with cci standards. The ar is slightly louder then the rest.

From what I have read it seems like the element was designed around the p-22 and performs best on pistols. But also sounds pretty good on rifles but there may be better performers for rifles. What they are I am not sure. But if I had to do it again I would go with another element.

Good luck.

D3S3RT_P3NGU1N
03-16-2012, 16:58
No, but .22 WMR does! What do you think the odds are of Kel-Tec offering a threaded barrel for the PMR-30?

I'd say the odds are pretty good

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii580/markduffy222/PMR30tb.png

Thats just a prototype of course, they're still working on dealing with getting the PMR to run suppressed reliably.

The pilot 2 isn't rated for .22 mag though, but the Element and Sparrow both are.

A quality .22lr suppressor that can be taken apart for cleaning should last you a lifetime. You can run 1000+ rounds through a Sparrow without cleaning it and it will still be effective and you'll still be able to take it apart by hand. Anyone that has dealt with a stuck .22lr suppressor after 200-300 rounds knows how much of a pain it can be to get it apart again

As far as sound reduction goes, shooting CCI standard velocity .22lr, from a pistol with the Element and Sparrow you're talking about 116dB average. The Pilot 2 about 120dB. Gemtech G5-22 and Alpine about 122dB and the Mite about 126dB. From a rifle its 114dB from the Sparrow, 115dB from the G5-22, 117dB from the Alpine, 118dB from the Pilot 2 and Element and 122dB from the Mite.

The_Gun_Guru
03-16-2012, 19:06
Not sure about the pilot 2. The only 22lr can I own is the element and other then the end cap it has performed great.
They have fixed the end cap on the new element so you shouldn't have to worry about that.

I have the p-22, ruger mkii/ pac lite, savage fv-sr, and a 22lr cmmg sbr for hosts and they all sound great. They all basically sound like a bb gun and are basement quiet with cci standards. The ar is slightly louder then the rest.

From what I have read it seems like the element was designed around the p-22 and performs best on pistols. But also sounds pretty good on rifles but there may be better performers for rifles. What they are I am not sure. But if I had to do it again I would go with another element.

Good luck.

I'd say the odds are pretty good

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii580/markduffy222/PMR30tb.png

Thats just a prototype of course, they're still working on dealing with getting the PMR to run suppressed reliably.

The pilot 2 isn't rated for .22 mag though, but the Element and Sparrow both are.

A quality .22lr suppressor that can be taken apart for cleaning should last you a lifetime. You can run 1000+ rounds through a Sparrow without cleaning it and it will still be effective and you'll still be able to take it apart by hand. Anyone that has dealt with a stuck .22lr suppressor after 200-300 rounds knows how much of a pain it can be to get it apart again

As far as sound reduction goes, shooting CCI standard velocity .22lr, from a pistol with the Element and Sparrow you're talking about 116dB average. The Pilot 2 about 120dB. Gemtech G5-22 and Alpine about 122dB and the Mite about 126dB. From a rifle its 114dB from the Sparrow, 115dB from the G5-22, 117dB from the Alpine, 118dB from the Pilot 2 and Element and 122dB from the Mite.

Thank you both for the excellent info!

If I could get a can for both my P22 and PMR-30, I would be ecstatic!!!


TGG

rjdriver
03-16-2012, 19:21
I have a tactical innovations Quest on a P22 and I really like it it comes apart real easily for cleaning and it is pretty quiet here is the link, and he was super to deal with. I think it can be has for $399.00
http://www.tacticalinc.com/quest-stainless-steel-premiumbrlightweight-22-lr-suppressor-p-552.html?osCsid=1140aqbatn91cpe0b15e45oqf6

The_Gun_Guru
03-17-2012, 20:04
I have a tactical innovations Quest on a P22 and I really like it it comes apart real easily for cleaning and it is pretty quiet here is the link, and he was super to deal with. I think it can be has for $399.00
http://www.tacticalinc.com/quest-stainless-steel-premiumbrlightweight-22-lr-suppressor-p-552.html?osCsid=1140aqbatn91cpe0b15e45oqf6


Thanks for the link:thumbsup:


That's nice but I notice it is rated for .22LR only. I really want one that is also rated for .22WMR.


TGG

Haldor
03-18-2012, 14:41
Check out Thompson Machine. They seem to have the best value choice.

http://www.thompsonmachine.net/

Excellent quality work. I own one of their ISIS 9mm multi-mount suppressors and am very happy with it.

I bought mine from SSNFA out of Indiana. He stocks TM and sells at decent discount. Check out his demo can sales for a deeper discount also.

http://ingunowners.com/forums/ssnfa/

Keep in mind that ATF approvals are taking 6 months now so understand that owning suppressors is not a hobby for the impatient.

- Edit -

The Thompson Machine CHD is rated for full auto .22 LR and also for .22 magnum if that interests you. MSRP is $280.

http://www.thompsonmachine.net/img/sup/chd5.jpg

If you want a really compact, dedicated .22LR can check out the Thompson Machine Wasp. MSRP is $250. It uses wipes and is always run wet to get the rated suppression level. I am thinking pretty hard about getting one of these (along with a Beretta 21A Inox).

http://www.thompsonmachine.net/img/sup/wasp4.jpg

The_Gun_Guru
03-18-2012, 20:19
- Edit -

The Thompson Machine CHD is rated for full auto .22 LR and also for .22 magnum if that interests you. MSRP is $280.

http://www.thompsonmachine.net/img/sup/chd5.jpg



I do like that CHD!!!:wow:


Thanks for the great info!


TGG

The_Gun_Guru
04-05-2012, 19:56
IT'S IN THE WORKS!!!!:banana:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/gunguru364/0ee2eb8f-1.jpg

Gemtech Alpine for my Walther P22 and eventually my KT PMR-30!!!

WOO-HOO!!!!!!


TGG