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Hokie1911
03-19-2012, 18:00
Just thought I'd share. Got all the stuff in last week. Hope to get out this weekend to run some rounds through it.

BCM 16" mid-length LW BFH upper
BCM lower
BCM bolt carrier group
BCM Gunfighter Mod4 charging handle
Magpul MOE stock
Magpul MOE mid-length fore end
Magpul MOE+ grip
Magpul MVG
Magpul PMAGs
Magpul 5-section rail
Surefire X300
Troy BUIS
...will be adding a Magpul ASAP and MS3, and finishing it off with an Aimpoint H1 with Larue mount.

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/DSC_1015.jpg

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/DSC_1016.jpg

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/DSC_1024.jpg

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/DSC_1020.jpg

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/DSC_1021.jpg

WoodenPlank
03-19-2012, 18:06
Looks like a damn nice build. The ONLY thing I'd knock you for is the ASAP and MS3. Invest in a quality 2-point sling and mounts instead.

Hokie1911
03-19-2012, 18:16
Looks like a damn nice build. The ONLY thing I'd knock you for is the ASAP and MS3. Invest in a quality 2-point sling and mounts instead.

Thanks. Why the no-go on the MS3?

WoodenPlank
03-19-2012, 18:21
Thanks. Why the no-go on the MS3?

Single point slings are not that great. In fact, I think they're crap, and that's after running an ASAP and MS2 for a year. As a single point, it gives you no support or stabilization for offhand shooting, it flops around when it's hanging on the sling (often leading to a whack in the junk), and gets tangled up easily. The MS2 didn't work well as a 2-point, either, and just wasn't comfortable. Plus, the ASAP is noisy as all hell and drove me nuts.

Look at a Blue Force Gear VCAS sling or a Viking Tactics VTAC sling. I've switched back to the VTAC padded sling I bought 3 or so years ago, and I won't go back to a single point.

There are several options for adding QD sling sockets to your stock and hardguards, and that will make adding a VCAS or VTAC sling a lot simpler.

Hokie1911
03-19-2012, 18:23
Yeah, I heard the MS2 had some issues. Thanks for the input.

Cole125
03-19-2012, 18:30
Very nice rifle, got it right the first time! :cool:

WoodenPlank
03-19-2012, 18:35
Yeah, I heard the MS2 had some issues. Thanks for the input.

The MS2 I had was well made, and worked very well as a single-point sling. The problem lies in the concept of a single point sling, though.

jem375
03-19-2012, 18:37
Very nice, enjoy the rifle and tell us how it shoots....

r3dot
03-19-2012, 20:03
I love single point mounted slings.

Nice build.

J_P
03-19-2012, 21:45
Very nice build!!

Ruggles
03-19-2012, 22:13
Very nice :) Congrats!

zibby43
03-19-2012, 22:25
EXCELLENT first rifle!

steve1911
03-19-2012, 23:21
Very nice.

Congrats!


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Javelin
03-19-2012, 23:50
Looks like you did your homework.

:thumbsup:

faawrenchbndr
03-20-2012, 06:20
Darn nice carbine, very well thought out! Congrats Hokie'

Slings are VERY subjective, what works for one may not for another.

Sendarr
03-20-2012, 06:25
What did the build cost ya? Congrats by the way, looks good

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Dr.Crash
03-20-2012, 06:28
I have a ASAP and MS2 sling. Love them both. It is nice because the MS2 can function as both a single a double point sling. Gives you the choice on the fly. I have shot for many years with the dual point sling and would never knock it. Just my .02


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svtpwnz
03-20-2012, 06:40
Very nice looking carbine and you can't go wrong with a BCM. Congrats!

LibertyPatriot
03-20-2012, 08:55
I'm looking at ordering some BCM parts soon. Who did you go with?

michael_b
03-20-2012, 09:42
Nice looking rifle. I hope my first build comes out as well as yours did.


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JAFO1-12
03-20-2012, 13:01
i agree. not a fan of a single point sling. sure, its awesome for the range and running and gunning, but not so much if you need to carry it 24/7 and deal with it in ANY situation

faawrenchbndr
03-20-2012, 13:22
I'm looking at ordering some BCM parts soon. Who did you go with?


:whistling:

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/

Hokie1911
03-20-2012, 16:23
Darn nice carbine, very well thought out! Congrats Hokie'

Slings are VERY subjective, what works for one may not for another.

Thanks bro. Figured you would like it. :supergrin:

What did the build cost ya? Congrats by the way, looks good


I can't say. Job perk.

I'm looking at ordering some BCM parts soon. Who did you go with?

:whistling:

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/

Winna winna chicken dinna. BCM direct.


By the way. Got a free Vickers VCAS today. Another job perk. BOOM.

Hokie1911
03-20-2012, 16:26
By the way... thanks for all the comments. I really appreciate it. Definitely did some recon for a while contemplating the purchase and it came down to DD or BCM. Sort of a win-win type of thing. Hope to get out this weekend or next to run it through it's paces with a buddy that just ordered a SCAR this week.

Glock 1
03-20-2012, 16:58
it flops around when it's hanging on the sling (often leading to a whack in the junk),

:rofl: I gotta stop reading this while drinking.

WoodenPlank
03-20-2012, 17:00
By the way. Got a free Vickers VCAS today. Another job perk. BOOM.

Excellent! Gives you a chance to try both, and you'll have a solid 2-point sling if/when you decide the MS3 isn't for you.

:rofl: I gotta stop reading this while drinking.

Trust me, having your own rifle whack you in the junk while it's hanging on a sling SUCKS.

MoneyMaker
03-20-2012, 18:41
ammo and lots

Hokie1911
03-20-2012, 19:38
Excellent! Gives you a chance to try both, and you'll have a solid 2-point sling if/when you decide the MS3 isn't for you.



Trust me, having your own rifle whack you in the junk while it's hanging on a sling SUCKS.

Not even going to go the MS3 route. Going to run the VCAS with an IWC QD sling mount. :supergrin:

faawrenchbndr
03-20-2012, 19:53
Not even going to go the MS3 route. Going to run the VCAS with an IWC QD sling mount. :supergrin:


That will work nicely! :thumbsup:

WoodenPlank
03-20-2012, 20:29
Not even going to go the MS3 route. Going to run the VCAS with an IWC QD sling mount. :supergrin:

That will work nicely! :thumbsup:

Yes, it will. I prefer the VTAC, but that's pure personal preference. That VCAS will treat you well.

Teej
03-21-2012, 20:17
Did I miss your investment cost somewhere in your post? So how much did this all cost and how much time did you spend assembling? thanks

Hokie1911
03-21-2012, 20:28
I work in the industry and paid (much) less than the retail of the build... which is about $1,350ish direct from BCM, ($1600ish with the Surefire...which I already had) and 3 PMAGs. :supergrin:

Build time was like 30 minutes maybe.

Hokie1911
03-28-2012, 17:59
Just got my IWC QD swivel in for the VCAS.

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac6/HokiePS7/DSC_1016-1.jpg

faawrenchbndr
03-28-2012, 18:06
Very nice Paul! :thumbsup:

Hokie1911
04-07-2012, 21:10
Thanks Greg. Should have the Aimpoint on within a month or so. :supergrin: