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ghawk249
03-19-2012, 20:07
I have a Stag Model 2 AR and looking at replacing the stock trigger. It also needs to be done on a budget if possilble.

WoodenPlank
03-19-2012, 20:11
Any particular reason it's being replaced? If it's just due to heavy or gritty trigger, there are various ways to improve the feel of a stock AR trigger for relatively cheap.

Reb 56
03-19-2012, 23:25
RRA 2 stage trigger can usually be found for around $100 as can a JP single stage. Either one is much better than the stock AR trigger.

stgha
03-20-2012, 16:57
you could also go with a lighter spring set and some light stoning work, provided you don't throw ammo through her that has hard primers....

Steve

Javelin
03-20-2012, 17:03
Before you go throwing money at RRA triggers or whatever try looking into the ALG ACT Trigger. The reviews have been very favorable.

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3022

It is an actual Tuned by Geissele Automatics trigger system for $65.

boomhower
03-20-2012, 17:57
Before you go throwing money at RRA triggers or whatever try looking into the ALG ACT Trigger. The reviews have been very favorable.

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3022

It is an actual Tuned by Geissele Automatics trigger system for $65.

+1

Skip the RRA. It will turn to crap within 1000 rounds or so.

WoodenPlank
03-20-2012, 18:01
+1

Skip the RRA. It will turn to crap within 1000 rounds or so.

Mine has been going strong for well over 5k life fire, and thousands more dry fire.

Javelin
03-20-2012, 18:04
Mine has been going strong for well over 5k life fire, and thousands more dry fire.

Mine has been faithful to me as well. But I would still probably not buy another after seeing the issues with them.


EDIT: Same with EOTech... own one, been good to me, Aimpoints for me from now on.

:wavey:

WoodenPlank
03-20-2012, 20:24
Mine has been faithful to me as well. But I would still probably not buy another after seeing the issues with them.


EDIT: Same with EOTech... own one, been good to me, Aimpoints for me from now on.

:wavey:

Yeah. My plan is to eventually replace it with a SSA or SSA-E.

faawrenchbndr
03-20-2012, 20:38
The RRA is piss poor,......I had one fail on me at around 2500 rounds fired.
RRA replaced it, it went to crap at about 12oo rounds fired.

Tried a Bill Springfield tweaked/stoned trigger, it went full auto at 700 rounds.

I bought a Timney 4# skeleton trigger, it's been in three rifles
& is at about 4k rounds fired.

Pay once, cry once!

WoodenPlank
03-20-2012, 20:41
The RRA is piss poor,......I had one fail on me at around 2500 rounds fired.
RRA replaced it, it went to crap at about 12oo rounds fired.

Tried a Bill Springfield tweaked/stoned trigger, it went full auto at 700 rounds.

I bought a Timney 4# skeleton trigger, it's been in three rifles
& is at about 4k rounds fired.

Pay once, cry once!

What failure did you see on the RRA?

faawrenchbndr
03-20-2012, 21:23
1st stage failed,....turned to a long mushy trigger pull.

WoodenPlank
03-20-2012, 21:24
1st stage failed,....turned to a long mushy trigger pull.

Same issue I have heard of before. I guess I got lucky. I do plan on replacing mine as soon as I can, though.

faawrenchbndr
03-20-2012, 21:28
Sounds as if you did get a good one,......nust be an older trigger!

My AR10 has a Jard trigger, plan to replace with a Geissele SSA

WoodenPlank
03-20-2012, 21:31
Sounds as if you did get a good one,......nust be an older trigger!

My AR10 has a Jard trigger, plan to replace with a Geissele SSE

It is, got it some time in 2009. It's survived through about 3-4 upper configurations and one lower migration when I built my SBR.

FriscoCHL
03-20-2012, 21:38
Any particular reason it's being replaced? If it's just due to heavy or gritty trigger, there are various ways to improve the feel of a stock AR trigger for relatively cheap.

I would be intrested in this. I did a "polish" on one of my glock trigger bars and was pleased with the results. is this the same idea you speak of??

ps, Javelin would you be interested in selling that Eotech?

WoodenPlank
03-20-2012, 21:49
I would be intrested in this. I did a "polish" on one of my glock trigger bars and was pleased with the results. is this the same idea you speak of??

ps, Javelin would you be interested in selling that Eotech?

Yep. Lots of "15 minute trigger job" info online. Google is your friend. I've never personally done one, so I can't really help otherwise.

halfmoonclip
03-20-2012, 22:27
Bill Springfield thought he had it figured out, and sometimes his triggers go crazy; double and run away.
So I'd be mighty damn careful stoning or modding the standard trigger.
Save your money for a Geissels SSA; goes bang all the time and is reputed durable.
Moon

faawrenchbndr
03-20-2012, 22:49
AR trigger components are said to be surface hardened before machining.
Stoning, like Bill Springfield does, is rumored to create such a thin surface
that the precision ground & stoned surface errodes very quickly.

This is thought to be why so many of those trigger jobs go south very quickly.

Javelin
03-20-2012, 23:08
I would be intrested in this. I did a "polish" on one of my glock trigger bars and was pleased with the results. is this the same idea you speak of??

ps, Javelin would you be interested in selling that Eotech?

My EOTech 512 has been perfect for me so I have been planning on keeping it. I still have the original box for the EOTech too so maybe.

Seems you get one that runs awesome or you don't. I lucked out with mine. :supergrin:

Javelin
03-20-2012, 23:09
AR trigger components are said to be surface hardened before machining.
Stoning, like Bill Springfield does, is rumored to create such a thin surface
that the precision ground & stoned surface errodes very quickly.

This is thought to be why so many of those trigger jobs go south very quickly.

Life is like a box of chocolates faawrenchbndr.

Where is your sense of adventure? :whistling:

faawrenchbndr
03-20-2012, 23:25
Dang,.......I just spent a crap load on a Noveske barrel, how much more adventure do I need?

Javelin
03-20-2012, 23:26
Dang,.......I just spent a crap load on a Noveske barrel, how much more adventure do I need?

:50cal:

:whistling: