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sbhaven
03-22-2012, 15:21
At the Left Forum 2012, Francis Pox Piven shed more light on the make up of the left. Piven told the gathering:
“There is room for all of us. Religious leftists, people who think peace is the answer, those who think that wholesome food is what we really need, ecologists and old-fashioned Democrats, Democratic Socialists, Socialists and Communists.”
According to Frances Fox Piven:

The Occupy Movement is made up of “All parts of the Left.”
That includes proudly: “Democrats, Socialists, Communists, Anarchists.”
Must all work together because of the “Huge task of transforming America and the world.”
“We are all together”

‘Democrats, Socialists and Communists…We Are All Together’: Piven Draws Chilling Connections
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/democrats-socialists-and-communists-we-are-all-together-piven-draws-chilling-connections/

JBnTX
03-22-2012, 15:35
America doesn't need to be transformed by the left or anyone else. If anything, America needs to move more to the right, even the far right.

Screw the left!:steamed:

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 17:22
America doesn't need to be transformed by the left or anyone else. If anything, America needs to move more to the right, even the far right.

Screw the left!:steamed:

But you want bigger government. I think piven is talking about you. You are on of them.

JBnTX
03-22-2012, 17:39
But you want bigger government. I think piven is talking about you. You are on of them.

You need to get off the personal attacks. I'm really getting tired of it.

I do NOT want bigger government and have never said I did.

Just because I realize that government serves a purpose and has responsibilities to it's citizens doesn't mean I'm for bigger government.

Just because Ron Paul's message has been rejected by the American people, doesn't mean those people and myself want bigger government.

Just because I think the constitution should be updated doesn't mean I don't support the constitution. An updated constitution would better serve the needs of all Americans.

You take everything I post to the most extreme example possible and then present it as what I want to do.

Please knock off the personal attacks.
They're against the forum rules anyway.

snerd
03-22-2012, 17:50
..... You take everything I post to the most extreme example possible and then present it as what I want to do.....
Excuse me, sir. You take everything concerned citizens post and blatantly call them the "blame America first crowd", and also label them anti-American. That's just as personal. Don't go crying that you're getting what you're dishing out.

JBnTX
03-22-2012, 18:11
Excuse me, sir. You take everything concerned citizens post and blatantly call them the "blame America first crowd", and also label them anti-American. That's just as personal. Don't go crying that you're getting what you're dishing out.

The people who find nothing but fault with America and can't seem to find anything good to say,
fall into that group.

The people who post that "America's doomed", "America causes all the problems in the world" and America has an evil government, definitely fall into that group.

All I've ever done is present a broader viewpoint that conflicts with the strict constitutionalist polices of the Ron Paul crowd.

I realize that the government is not some evil monster that threatens to devour every American alive.

The narrow minded anarchists of the Ron Paul group can't stand that challenge
to their supposed superiority.

They result to name calling because they can't defend their political positions which
have been wholeheartedly rejected by the American people.

G-19
03-22-2012, 18:48
Jb,
Common sense is lost on the RP crowd. All they are concerned about is money. They really don't care about this country. If you listen all they talk about is taxes. As a very wise man said " for the love of money is the root of all evil".

They would let the elderly starve to death in this country if it meant another buck in their pocket. I am sure our founding fathers would be proud of them.

Fortunately they are a small portion of the population, and will never be taken seriously. They are really pathetic. I only hope that some day through some bad choice they make they will get to see life from the shoes of the ones they degrade so much. I wonder how many of them actually got anywhere on their own or did they profit from the labor of mom and dad or their grandparents labor.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 18:54
Jb,
Common sense is lost on the RP crowd. All they are concerned about is money. They really don't care about this country. If you listen all they talk about is taxes. As a very wise man said " for the love of money is the root of all evil".

They would let the elderly starve to death in this country if it meant another buck in their pocket. I am sure our founding fathers would be proud of them.

Did you learn that at DU?

G-19
03-22-2012, 18:56
Did you learn that at DU?

No, it is pretty much common sense. Try thinking for your self once in awhile.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 18:58
No, it is pretty much common sense. Try thinking for your self once in awhile.

Democrat talking points and scare tactics are common sense?

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 19:01
You need to get off the personal attacks. I'm really getting tired of it.

I do NOT want bigger government and have never said I did.

Just because I realize that government serves a purpose and has responsibilities to it's citizens doesn't mean I'm for bigger government.

Just because Ron Paul's message has been rejected by the American people, doesn't mean those people and myself want bigger government.

Just because I think the constitution should be updated doesn't mean I don't support the constitution. An updated constitution would better serve the needs of all Americans.

You take everything I post to the most extreme example possible and then present it as what I want to do.

Please knock off the personal attacks.
They're against the forum rules anyway.

JB, have you ever looked up what a progressive is?

G-19
03-22-2012, 19:17
Democrat talking points and scare tactics are common sense?

That's you rebuttal? You sound just like Rush. Dittos to you. :)

Are you a fat white guy that's a drug addict also? Maybe you can stand in for him next time he is in rehab.

I am an independent voter. I vote for who I feel is the best choice, I don't have to be led around by my nose spouting off any party talking points. Especially by some little old man who is out of touch with reality.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 19:31
That's you rebuttal? You sound just like Rush. Dittos to you. :)

Are you a fat white guy that's a drug addict also? Maybe you can stand in for him next time he is in rehab.

I am an independent voter. I vote for who I feel is the best choice, I don't have to be led around by my nose spouting off any party talking points. Especially by some little old man who is out of touch with reality.

You sound like Nancy Pelosi.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 19:34
You need to get off the personal attacks. I'm really getting tired of it.

I do NOT want bigger government and have never said I did.

Just because I realize that government serves a purpose and has responsibilities to it's citizens doesn't mean I'm for bigger government.

Just because Ron Paul's message has been rejected by the American people, doesn't mean those people and myself want bigger government.

Just because I think the constitution should be updated doesn't mean I don't support the constitution. An updated constitution would better serve the needs of all Americans.

You take everything I post to the most extreme example possible and then present it as what I want to do.

Please knock off the personal attacks.
They're against the forum rules anyway.

That's not a personal attack. What are you talking about?

You post quite frequently about your disdain for states rights, your disdain for the 9th and 10th amendments, your belief that government needs to act outside of the Constitution to address the needs of a modern society and the fact that government needs to be sufficiently large to tend to the needs of a certain segment of the population.

That's the very definition of Progressive

You are one of them.

Pitch a tent.


ETA: You never answered my questions about the traumatic brain injury. Have you been able to get the treatment you require?

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 19:36
The people who find nothing but fault with America and can't seem to find anything good to say,
fall into that group.

The people who post that "America's doomed", "America causes all the problems in the world" and America has an evil government, definitely fall into that group.

All I've ever done is present a broader viewpoint that conflicts with the strict constitutionalist polices of the Ron Paul crowd.

I realize that the government is not some evil monster that threatens to devour every American alive.

The narrow minded anarchists of the Ron Paul group can't stand that challenge
to their supposed superiority.

They result to name calling because they can't defend their political positions which
have been wholeheartedly rejected by the American people.

:rofl:

G-19
03-22-2012, 19:36
Certified & Ruble, does it bother you knowing that your political views are irrelevant in the scheme of things. It has to hurt just a little that nobody cares what you or Ron Paul thinks. Sure, a few dingbats may agree with you, but not enough to even matter. I am sorry if this is the first time someone broke it down to you, but you really don't matter.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 19:41
Jb,
Common sense is lost on the RP crowd. All they are concerned about is money. They really don't care about this country. If you listen all they talk about is taxes. As a very wise man said " for the love of money is the root of all evil".



That'd be your government, I believe. Your President.

They would let the elderly starve to death in this country if it meant another buck in their pocket. I am sure our founding fathers would be proud of them.



You and your ilk are content forcing one person to provide for another. You are content assuming your right to seize the fruits of one man's labor and give it to another.

You and your ilk support theft and slavery. I can only assume that makes you a thief.

Fortunately they are a small portion of the population, and will never be taken seriously. They are really pathetic. I only hope that some day through some bad choice they make they will get to see life from the shoes of the ones they degrade so much. I wonder how many of them actually got anywhere on their own or did they profit from the labor of mom and dad or their grandparents labor.

Larger every day.:cool: We won't sit idly by and allow you people to dictate our lives from cradle to grave.

You have JBnTX though, so you have that going for ya.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 19:42
Certified & Ruble, does it bother you knowing that your political views are irrelevant in the scheme of things. It has to hurt just a little that nobody cares what you or Ron Paul thinks. Sure, a few dingbats may agree with you, but not enough to even matter. I am sorry if this is the first time someone broke it down to you, but you really don't matter.

I sure as **** matter on April 15th.

Hey, did you study Cloward and Piven in college or was it more of a self-directed study program?

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 19:43
Certified & Ruble, does it bother you knowing that your political views are irrelevant in the scheme of things. It has to hurt just a little that nobody cares what you or Ron Paul thinks. Sure, a few dingbats may agree with you, but not enough to even matter. I am sorry if this is the first time someone broke it down to you, but you really don't matter.

BTW, my views are the supreme law of the land. I know that doesn't sit well with you people but it doesn't change the facts.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 19:49
BTW, my views are the supreme law of the land. I know that doesn't sit well with you people but it doesn't change the facts.

It's kind of funny how people that want to adhere to the COTUS are called haters of America. It would seem the ones that want to change the COTUS to fit their socialist ideals should be labeled as haters of America.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 19:51
It's kind of funny how people that want to adhere to the COTUS are called haters of America. It would seem the ones that want to change the COTUS to fit their socialist ideals should be labeled as haters of America.

They are. If they loved America they would love the document that defines it.

Instead they seek to subvert it, to minimize it, to ridicule it, to change it, to read new imaginary things into it.

I'm convinced these two folks above are enemies of the Constitution, domestic.

G-19
03-22-2012, 19:55
That'd be your government, I believe. Your President.



You and your ilk are content forcing one person to provide for another. You are content assuming your right to seize the fruits of one man's labor and give it to another.

You and your ilk support theft and slavery. I can only assume that makes you a thief.



Larger every day.:cool: We won't sit idly by and allow you people to dictate our lives from cradle to grave.

You have JBnTX though, so you have that going for ya.

It's not theft it is tax. Perfectly legal, you just don't want to pay. Well to bad.

"larger every day" haha. You sound like a cult.

G-19
03-22-2012, 19:59
BTW, my views are the supreme law of the land. I know that doesn't sit well with you people but it doesn't change the facts.

Haha, Rolf.

G-19
03-22-2012, 20:02
They are. If they loved America they would love the document that defines it.

Instead they seek to subvert it, to minimize it, to ridicule it, to change it, to read new imaginary things into it.

I'm convinced these two folks above are enemies of the Constitution, domestic.

You read to much Bracken. When is your episode of Doomsday Preppers air?

G-19
03-22-2012, 20:03
I sure as **** matter on April 15th.

Hey, did you study Cloward and Piven in college or was it more of a self-directed study program?

Nah, you still don't matter. We just want you to pay your share just like I did.

G-19
03-22-2012, 20:06
Like it or not it is majority rule in this country and you will never be the majority. So either get used to it or leave. It will never change.

G-19
03-22-2012, 20:11
I know I am posting a lot lately. I am trying to catch up with Certified. It will be hard though, I have a job and a life. Good thing I have a cold right now and don't feel like going out after work, it gives me more time to post BS on here just like Certified.

Hey Certified ever had a real job, or did you just profit off the labor of your parents?

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 20:13
I know I am posting a lot lately. I am trying to catch up with Certified. It will be hard though, I have a job and a life. Good thing I have a cold right now and don't feel like going out after work, it gives me more time to post BS on here just like Certified.

Hey Certified ever had a real job, or did you just profit off the labor of your parents?

Do you profit off the labor of others? Public employee perhaps?

Fred Hansen
03-22-2012, 20:24
JBnTX and G-19 are here. Looks like we're just waiting on the Democrats.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 20:28
JBnTX and G-19 are here. Looks like we're just waiting on the Democrats.

:rofl:

G-19
03-22-2012, 20:33
Oh yes, I am a Public employee and a union member. I am a correction officer and deserve every dime I make. Nothing is given to me. I deal daily with the worse this country has to offer. Not only do I do my general duties, I also teach firearms and unarmed self defense at no extra pay. I do it so my coworkers can go home to their families, and to keep the people you would not want around you family locked up. Just like the cops and firemen that put their lives on the line everyday to protect sniveling little crybabies like you.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 20:36
Oh yes, I am a Public employee and a union member.

LoL! Who would have guessed that.

G-19
03-22-2012, 20:39
LoL! Who would have guessed that.

I noticed you did not quote my whole post.

What do you do? Work at daddy's company?

Next time you are robbed or one of your family is assaulted, do me a favor don't call the cops. If your house is on fire grab a hose, don't call the fire department.You would not want a public employee union member to help you. If you do you are a hypocrite, so please stand your grounds and just try and deal with it yourself.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 20:45
Oh yes, I am a Public employee and a union member. I am a correction officer and deserve every dime I make. Nothing is given to me. I deal daily with the worse this country has to offer. Not only do I do my general duties, I also teach firearms and unarmed self defense at no extra pay. I do it so my coworkers can go home to their families, and to keep the people you would not want around you family locked up. Just like the cops and firemen that put their lives on the line everyday to protect sniveling little crybabies like you.

I noticed you did not quote my whole post.



Okay, I'll quote your whole post crybaby. I had to do a project at our local maximum security facility. I was more fearful of the guards than the axe murders that were housed in the prison.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 20:45
It's not theft it is tax. Perfectly legal, you just don't want to pay. Well to bad.

"larger every day" haha. You sound like a cult.

Taxation *IS* theft.

I don't pay willingly. It is taken from me at the barrel of a gun. How do YOU define theft?

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 20:47
Nah, you still don't matter. We just want you to pay your share just like I did.

What is my share?

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 20:48
Oh yes, I am a Public employee and a union member. I am a correction officer and deserve every dime I make. Nothing is given to me. I deal daily with the worse this country has to offer. Not only do I do my general duties, I also teach firearms and unarmed self defense at no extra pay. I do it so my coworkers can go home to their families, and to keep the people you would not want around you family locked up. Just like the cops and firemen that put their lives on the line everyday to protect sniveling little crybabies like you.

Ahhhhhh. Your paycheck depends upon money being stolen from your fellow citizens. No wonder you support it.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 20:48
Nah, you still don't matter. We just want you to pay your share just like I did.

You're a public union employee, you don't pay taxes.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 20:49
Like it or not it is majority rule in this country and you will never be the majority. So either get used to it or leave. It will never change.

According to the COTUS, the majority doesn't rule.

You sound like an out and out communist revolutionary thug? Are you?

G-19
03-22-2012, 20:49
Taxation *IS* theft.

I don't pay willingly. It is taken from me at the barrel of a gun. How do YOU define theft?

Prove it is theft. Show me one law or court decision that shows taxation is theft. Taxation without representation is what upset the founders not being taxed. Guess what, I paid taxes this year also.

And you sound like a sniveling crybaby. Are you?

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 20:51
Prove it is theft. Show me one law or court decision that shows taxation is theft. Taxation without representation is what upset the founders not being taxed.

Oh, NOW you want to talk about founders? :rofl:What a tool.

I'll ask again: How do you define theft if it is not a man sticking a gun in another man's face and taking his money?

The Machinist
03-22-2012, 20:53
I am an independent voter. I vote for who I feel is the best choice.
It's OK to admit you voted for Obama.

G-19
03-22-2012, 20:53
Oh, NOW you want to talk about founders? :rofl:What a tool.

I'll ask again: How do you define theft if it is not a man sticking a gun in another man's face and taking his money?

So the IRS showed up at your house and put a gun to your head and took your money. Should have got that on video.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 20:53
According to the COTUS, the majority doesn't rule.

You sound like an out and out communist revolutionary thug? Are you?

He was taught in school that we are a democracy.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 20:54
Oh, NOW you want to talk about founders? :rofl:What a tool.

I'll ask again: How do you define theft if it is not a man sticking a gun in another man's face and taking his money?

When it suits his purpose.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 20:54
So the IRS showed up at your house and put a gun to your head and took your money. Should have got that on video.

Actually, when I was a child, yes.

Try not paying taxes and see what happens.

G-19
03-22-2012, 20:55
It's OK to admit you voted for Obama.

Since you asked. I voted for McCain and Palin.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 20:55
Guess what, I paid taxes this year also.



Bull S_ _ _.

G-19
03-22-2012, 20:57
Actually, when I was a child, yes.

Ok, sounds like you have a story. Pleas share. This has got to be good. The IRS doing armed robbery on a child.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 20:57
Guess what, I paid taxes this year also.



Payroll taxes sure. Based on what you do I seriously doubt that you had any real income tax liability. Others, like me, pay your way.

Paul7
03-22-2012, 20:58
Well, duh.....

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 20:59
Ok, sounds like you have a story. Pleas share. This has got to be good. The IRS doing armed robbery on a child.

I'm more interested in hearing you explain how you paid taxes.

G-19
03-22-2012, 20:59
Bull S_ _ _.

Why is it BS? I have no reason to lie. Contrary to your belief and what the great Rushbo says the middle class pays taxes also.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 20:59
Ok, sounds like you have a story. Pleas share. This has got to be good. The IRS doing armed robbery on a child.

Parents. Defunct business when the oilfield crashed in the early 80's. Assets seized. Was common for agents to show up at our door at 10pm on a weeknight, unannounced.

The Machinist
03-22-2012, 21:00
Since you asked. I voted for McCain and Palin.
That's even more sad. Being on Obama voter would square more with your socialist views, but whatever. Sink your fat fingers deep into that pie, because when it's gone, there won't be any seconds.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 21:01
Why is it BS? I have no reason to lie. Contrary to your belief and what the great Rushbo says the middle class pays taxes also.

What wealth did you produce?

G-19
03-22-2012, 21:01
I'm more interested in hearing you explain how you paid taxes.

Simple, tax out of every check. They did not take enough so I had to send them a check.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 21:01
Why is it BS? I have no reason to lie. Contrary to your belief and what the great Rushbo says the middle class pays taxes also.

Public employees don't pay net taxes.

Its a simple fact.

G-19
03-22-2012, 21:02
What wealth did you produce?

What wealth did you produce?

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 21:03
Simple, tax out of every check. They did not take enough so I had to send them a check.

You are not paying taxes. You are just giving back to the government money that was taken from someone else.

G-19
03-22-2012, 21:03
Public employees don't pay net taxes.

Its a simple fact.

Then where did that money they took out of my check and the check I had to send the IRS go if not tax.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 21:04
What wealth did you produce?

A lot more than you. The kid working the drive through window at your local Ronnie's produces more than you.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 21:05
Then where did that money they took out of my check and the check I had to send the IRS go if not tax.

First of all, at your income level if you're married with a modest mortgage, some modest retirement savings, 2 kids and the usual deductions, your income tax liability is zero or or so close that it's negligible.

Secondly, any taxes paid were a simple pass through since you were paid with taxes collected from the productive sector.

In order for net taxes to be collected there has to be production. Public employees produce nothing. They just take back some of the tax money you were paid with.

Ruble Noon
03-22-2012, 21:05
Then where did that money they took out of my check and the check I had to send the IRS go if not tax.

That is not the question to ask rather, you should be asking where the money came from to pay you in the first place.

G-19
03-22-2012, 21:16
Here is something else for you to dwell on. Your taxes pay my salary and I pay union dues out of my salary. So in essence you are paying the unions. Now don't that just burn you up? Your are a union member by proxy. :)

G-19
03-22-2012, 21:17
That is not the question to ask rather, you should be asking where the money came from to pay you in the first place.

Don't have to ask. It came from taxes. That's usually how state jobs work. So keep paying those taxes.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 21:18
Here is something else for you to dwell on. Your taxes pay my salary and I pay union dues out of my salary. So in essence you are paying the unions. Now don't that just burn you up? Your are a union member by proxy. :)

That's like saying I bought crack because a crackhead stole my wallet and bought crack.

nursetim
03-22-2012, 21:18
Believing any one person speaks for the masses is silly. Does westboro speak for the Baptist church? Of course not. A communist says the ows is a communist movement to varying degrees is like saying David dukes speaks for the tea party.

If they wear the same "hug a commie for mommy" red t-shirt, then I will believe him. Until then it's just another moonbat flapping his gums cause he like to hear himself talk.

G-19
03-22-2012, 21:18
First of all, at your income level if you're married with a modest mortgage, some modest retirement savings, 2 kids and the usual deductions, your income tax liability is zero or or so close that it's negligible.

Secondly, any taxes paid were a simple pass through since you were paid with taxes collected from the productive sector.

In order for net taxes to be collected there has to be production. Public employees produce nothing. They just take back some of the tax money you were paid with.

You assume a lot.

What do you produce?

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 21:19
Don't have to ask. It came from taxes. That's usually how state jobs work. So keep paying those taxes.

I truly hope that one day the state you suck your salary out of is insolvent to the point that it can't pay your retirement benefits. When that happens, please think of me the first night you got to bed hungry. :wavey:

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 21:20
You assume a lot.

What do you produce?

You can produce numbers to refute that any time. I've actually run the numbers so I know a bit about what we're discussing.

What do I produce? A solid 6 figure contribution to the federal treasury every year.

That means I'm paying my share and yours. You're welcome.

G-19
03-22-2012, 21:20
A lot more than you. The kid working the drive through window at your local Ronnie's produces more than you.

So you work at Mickey D's. Next time I come through try and get the pickle on the bun.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 21:23
So you work at Mickey D's. Next time I come through try and get the pickle on the bun.

If he did, he would still be contributing more to the GDP than you.

G-19
03-22-2012, 21:23
You can produce numbers to refute that any time. I've actually run the numbers so I know a bit about what we're discussing.

What do I produce? A solid 6 figure contribution to the federal treasury every year.

That means I'm paying my share and yours. You're welcome.

You can quote numbers all you want. I know what I paid.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 21:24
You can quote numbers all you want. I know what I paid.

So do I and if it was any at all, it wasn't much. Like you might have paid for a few tanks of gas in a Humvee.

Corrections, right? You up over $50,000 in income doing that?

Married?

Kids?

Mortgage?

I'll be happy to run the numbers on a worksheet for you and post your tax liability right here. Just provide the data.

G-19
03-22-2012, 21:25
Next year could you pay a little more, I need a raise.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 21:29
You can quote numbers all you want. I know what I paid.

I think what really, fundamentally torques off people like you is that you know life is full of winners and losers. Deep down, you know that people like me are winners and people like you aren't.

So you seek to use government to exact some warped notion of fairness because you didn't make the best choices in life and need someone else to blame.

G-19
03-22-2012, 21:29
Well, good night. Got to go to bed. Got to get up early for work. Got to go get some of that money the IRS has been busy holding guns to your head to get.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 21:30
I imagine that's the same way you approached life in your youth.....when things got tough you took the easier path. Now, as an adult, you find yourself having to suck at the tit of government for subsistence.


Be careful at work tomorrow. If some prisoner throws a turd at your head be sure to duck, mkay?

Good night! :wavey:

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 21:31
Next year could you pay a little more, I need a raise.

You're in luck. They go up every single year.

G-19
03-22-2012, 21:38
I think what really, fundamentally torques off people like you is that you know life is full of winners and losers. Deep down, you know that people like me are winners and people like you aren't.

So you seek to use government to exact some warped notion of fairness because you didn't make the best choices in life and need someone else to blame.

Buddy, if you call spending your every waking moment on GTPI making you a winner go for it.

I am probably a lot more happier than you. See money is not what makes me happy. Living life, spending time with loved ones that is the key to happiness. Money is nice, sure, but if you think because you have more you are a better person you are seriously messed up.

It is that attitude, the one that says those who make the most are the most important is why RP has no chance of ever being president. The American public is tired of it. Do you really think that main street America believes the way you do? Remember you are the top 10 percent, but it is the lower 90 percent the politicians listen to. Because we are who keep them in their jobs. So quit crying and just get used to it. It is that attitude that makes main street say sure tax the rich.

Even your great RP adds pork for his district. If he didn't he would not keep his job. So quit acting like he is so high and mighty. He is just another politician. Says one thing does another. Politicians only worry about politicians.

certifiedfunds
03-22-2012, 21:45
Originally Posted by certifiedfunds http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=18746266#post18746266)
I think what really, fundamentally torques off people like you is that you know life is full of winners and losers. Deep down, you know that people like me are winners and people like you aren't.

So you seek to use government to exact some warped notion of fairness because you didn't make the best choices in life and need someone else to blame.


Buddy, if you call spending your every waking moment on GTPI making you a winner go for it.

I am probably a lot more happier than you. See money is not what makes me happy. Living life, spending time with loved ones that is the key to happiness. Money is nice, sure, but if you think because you have more you are a better person you are seriously messed up.

It is that attitude, the one that says those who make the most are the most important is why RP has no chance of ever being president. The American public is tired of it. Do you really think that main street America believes the way you do? Remember you are the top 10 percent, but it is the lower 90 percent the politicians listen to. Because we are who keep them in their jobs. So quit crying and just get used to it.

Even your great RP adds pork for his district. If he didn't he would not keep his job. So quit acting like he is so high and mighty. He is just another politician. Says one thing does another. Politicians only worry about politicians.

Yup! Looks like my theory is spot-on!

If the turd-dodging job doesn't work out there is always a spot for you at TSA sorting through dirty laundry and feeling up grandmas.

chickenwing
03-22-2012, 21:51
Buddy, if you call spending your every waking moment on GTPI making you a winner go for it.

I am probably a lot more happier than you. See money is not what makes me happy. Living life, spending time with loved ones that is the key to happiness. Money is nice, sure, but if you think because you have more you are a better person you are seriously messed up.

It is that attitude, the one that says those who make the most are the most important is why RP has no chance of ever being president. The American public is tired of it. Do you really think that main street America believes the way you do? Remember you are the top 10 percent, but it is the lower 90 percent the politicians listen to. Because we are who keep them in their jobs. So quit crying and just get used to it. It is that attitude that makes main street say sure tax the rich.

Even your great RP adds pork for his district. If he didn't he would not keep his job. So quit acting like he is so high and mighty. He is just another politician. Says one thing does another. Politicians only worry about politicians.

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snerd
03-23-2012, 00:49
I think what really, fundamentally torques off people like you is that you know life is full of winners and losers. Deep down, you know that people like me are winners and people like you aren't.

So you seek to use government to exact some warped notion of fairness because you didn't make the best choices in life and need someone else to blame.
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snerd
03-23-2012, 00:50
Well, good night. Got to go to bed. Got to get up early for work. Got to go get some of that money the IRS has been busy holding guns to your head to get.
You still don't get it, do you? Like the man said, try not paying your taxes and see what happens.

certifiedfunds
03-23-2012, 04:42
You still don't get it, do you? Like the man said, try not paying your taxes and see what happens.

Well, he doesn't pay any income taxes so its a moot point.

snerd
03-23-2012, 05:06
Well, he doesn't pay any income taxes so its a moot point.
Yeah, 2 of my wife's friends and a sister-in-law have cushy State jobs. They don't understand that they don't produce anything, and that they sponge directly off of the taxpayers. It's truly an art form out here in agricultural land where every other wife of a farmer works for either the federal local extension land office or is state employed in some capacity. Our farmers accept large sums of money to "not" plant anything, keeping prices up. This "gimmee" mentality has burrowed into what was once the greatest producing segment in the world, our growers of food!

I don't see any fixes in the works, save financial collapse. Not one of them wants to give up their piece of the pie.

Ruble Noon
03-23-2012, 05:12
So you work at Mickey D's. Next time I come through try and get the pickle on the bun.

No, I don't work at Ronnie's. However, the people that do can take pride in the fact that they are not leeching their living from others which is something that you cannot say.

Ruble Noon
03-23-2012, 05:14
Yeah, 2 of my wife's friends and a sister-in-law have cushy State jobs. They don't understand that they don't produce anything, and that they sponge directly off of the taxpayers. It's truly an art form out here in agricultural land where every other wife of a farmer works for either the federal local extension land office or is state employed in some capacity. Our farmers accept large sums of money to "not" plant anything, keeping prices up. This "gimmee" mentality has burrowed into what was once the greatest producing segment in the world, our growers of food!

I don't see any fixes in the works, save financial collapse. Not one of them wants to give up their piece of the pie.

Very true.

G-19
03-23-2012, 14:09
I truly hope that one day the state you suck your salary out of is insolvent to the point that it can't pay your retirement benefits. When that happens, please think of me the first night you got to bed hungry. :wavey:

Wow, that a heck of a way to think. Probably why you RPers are irrelevant. You far righters are just as out of touch as the far lefties.

Don't worry about me, I will never go to bed hungry. My house and property is paid for, my vehicles are also, so I don't need much to live on. I know how to grow a garden and do every year, and can several months worth of food. I raise chickens also. So hungry is something I never will be. Food and ammo will be the currency, and I will have plenty of both. I also have several family and friends who grow food and raise livestock, so we will survive the project collapse you keep predicting.

You on the other hand, if and when the economy does collapse, will be in a world of hurt. All that money you claim to have wont mean crap. How much you going to buy with your worthless stocks and cash? Look on the bright side you will have plenty of toilet paper. Don't worry though I am sure they will just do another WallStreet bailout to save your arrogant rear end. Let's face it you are scared to death that the economy will fail, because then you will be lost. Then we will really be back where we started.

certifiedfunds
03-23-2012, 14:35
Wow, that a heck of a way to think. Probably why you RPers are irrelevant. You far righters are just as out of touch as the far lefties.

Don't worry about me, I will never go to bed hungry. My house and property is paid for, my vehicles are also, so I don't need much to live on. I know how to grow a garden and do every year, and can several months worth of food. I raise chickens also. So hungry is something I never will be. Food and ammo will be the currency, and I will have plenty of both. I also have several family and friends who grow food and raise livestock, so we will survive the project collapse you keep predicting.

You on the other hand, if and when the economy does collapse, will be in a world of hurt. All that money you claim to have wont mean crap. How much you going to buy with your worthless stocks and cash? Look on the bright side you will have plenty of toilet paper. Don't worry though I am sure they will just do another WallStreet bailout to save your arrogant rear end. Let's face it you are scared to death that the economy will fail, because then you will be lost. Then we will really be back where we started.

A self-sufficient communist. Who'da thunk it?

:rofl:

You should search my posts a little better before you jump to conclusions.:whistling:

G-19
03-23-2012, 14:56
A self-sufficient communist. Who'da thunk it?

:rofl:

You should search my posts a little better before you jump to conclusions.:whistling:

Communist, no. I am a true blooded American that served in the US Air Force because I love my country and would be willing to lay down my life for it. Would you?

However, in your mind anyone that don't think like you is a communist. You sound like a Fascist. If someone don't agree with you then they are worthless. Kinda like Hitler. Once again proving you RPers are nuts.

Javelin
03-23-2012, 15:00
This is all we need.

It's not like it is a secret really. Just a sad truth.







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certifiedfunds
03-23-2012, 18:50
Communist, no. I am a true blooded American that served in the US Air Force because I love my country and would be willing to lay down my life for it. Would you?

However, in your mind anyone that don't think like you is a communist. You sound like a Fascist. If someone don't agree with you then they are worthless. Kinda like Hitler. Once again proving you RPers are nuts.

Well....you advocate for some key planks of the communist manifesto here so I'm not sure what other conclusions to draw, quite frankly. Maybe I was wrong. Perhaps Fabian Socialist is a better moniker?

I do wonder about the oath you took....to protect and defend the Constitution.....considering how you ridicule, minimize and misrepresent it.

Oh, and you should read a bit more. Hitler was a socialist. Yeah, a leftist. Go figure.

In fact, if you research modern history you'll find that all murderous tyrants come from the left.

Fred Hansen
03-26-2012, 10:38
No show on the Democrats eh?

certifiedfunds
03-26-2012, 11:02
I think they returned to their holes.

Fred Hansen
03-26-2012, 11:06
:cool:

certifiedfunds
03-26-2012, 11:55
:cool:

Don't smile. They're probably in there reproducing.

RC-RAMIE
03-26-2012, 12:09
Don't smile. They're probably in there reproducing.

Looks like they been cross breeding with conservatives.

certifiedfunds
03-26-2012, 12:18
Looks like they been cross breeding with conservatives.

:rofl: