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EmergencyDad
03-24-2012, 11:57
Am I the only one who thinks Obama will use this Florida shooting as a springboard for a gun control plank in this year's campaign? http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-23/obama-says-it-s-imperative-that-florida-shooting-be-probed

It hasn't happened yet, but I see it coming.

tnhawk
03-24-2012, 17:19
It will take some of the attention from jobs, taxes, gas prices, etc. that obama would prefer not to debate.

samurairabbi
03-24-2012, 17:51
The president and his advisors will still remember the mess he created for himself by immediately condemning the "Skip" Gates incident, when Obama instantly castigated the police for what turned out to be a valid investigative entry into Gates' dwelling. Gates himself, I am sure, was inwardly seething about being forced to share beers with the officer who confronted him in his house during that "incident". Notice the president's rather reserved advocacy for "justice" in that news conference.

A followup comment about all the thinking that Obama will reserve his "real" agenda until his second term: Since Ike, presidents have been LESS effective in their SECOND term than in their FIRST; being locked out of running for another term really cuts political clout. Presidents approaching the end of a first term are pre-occupied with simply getting reelected; long-range political strategy becomes an afterthought compared with the "indignity" of being a president who could not win a second term.

EmergencyDad
03-24-2012, 17:58
I hope you are right.

ModGlock17
03-24-2012, 22:48
Nah. O will have to give full and factual report on Fast-and-Furious to get any credibility on any gun-related conversation, adult conversation.

But Credibility in Obama is like CherryBlossom in Antartica. CherryBlossom doesn't take root in Antartica, neither will Credibility in Obama.

NEOH212
03-24-2012, 23:39
Obama will capitalize on Florida shooting

Of course he will but only after he gets reelected in November.

LASTRESORT20
03-24-2012, 23:56
It will take some of the attention from jobs, taxes, gas prices, etc. that obama would prefer not to debate.



Exactly......and why he wont get elected.

Noles26
03-25-2012, 20:47
Exactly......and why he wont get elected.

Let's be honest here.

Obama WILL win a second term.

The Rep.'s have two of the WORST candidates in Histroy (seriously? The "I'm a Morman" billboards make me sick)
PLUS, they've bashed one another right out of the election.

Obama is in again, donate to the NRA to protect our second amendment, and other than that, Obama has NOT hurt us one bit in the great state of Texas.

By the way, before you respond, BRING FACTS to the table. Not some bull**** email spam you received at your bible study.

OctoberRust
03-26-2012, 16:40
Let's be honest here.

Obama WILL win a second term.

The Rep.'s have two of the WORST candidates in Histroy (seriously? The "I'm a Morman" billboards make me sick)
PLUS, they've bashed one another right out of the election.

Obama is in again, donate to the NRA to protect our second amendment, and other than that, Obama has NOT hurt us one bit in the great state of Texas.

By the way, before you respond, BRING FACTS to the table. Not some bull**** email spam you received at your bible study.



:rofl: Agreed. Good posting.

cowboywannabe
03-26-2012, 17:18
only those whom act stupidly will fall for this obama trick. but they fell for him before so its really nothing new, just the most current.

Noles26
03-27-2012, 19:48
only those whom act stupidly will fall for this obama trick. but they fell for him before so its really nothing new, just the most current.

Clever......

:rofl:

samurairabbi
03-27-2012, 20:08
I offer a coincidence that makes real life look weird:

I just got an NRA e-mail solicitation. One of the items it offers: a concealed-carry dark grey hooded sweatshirt, priced at $60-$65. If you think I am making this up, I can forward the e-mail. An NRA hoodie; something for EVERYONE to yell at.

POSTSCRIPT: No forwarded email is necessary. Go to www.nrastore.com, and click on the "sweatshirt" category in the left column. All their hoodies will be there.

ModGlock17
03-28-2012, 21:52
The more facts coming out, the quieter the self-holy-one becomes.

One interest fact is that Zimmer is 50% Jewish and 50% Latino, not a drop of white blood. So I think a "few" Latinos are p.o.'d , at a minimum. Add to that an assault on the Catholics that has 78million members in the US (not all can vote) and I get the impression that the holy-one thinks arrogantly that even with self-destruct activity, he can still win.

Those of us who CAN think, will need to carry the baton for those who CAN'T think for themselves. Vote and vote well. That, we can all agree.

samurairabbi
03-28-2012, 22:09
The more facts coming out, the quieter the self-holy-one becomes.

One interest fact is that Zimmer is 50% Jewish and 50% Latino, not a drop of white blood. So I think a "few" Latinos are p.o.'d , at a minimum.

Additional reports make the situation even MORE complex. Our Mr. Zimmerman is reported to have BOTH BIOLOGICAL parents of Hispanic derivation. Zimmerman's Jewish father adopted him after marrying the mother, and the son took the father's surname.

Based simply on Zimmerman's photos, this situation looks entirely plausible. The advocates of Martin's cause seem to be taking some heavy shots in the last few days.

Jerry
03-28-2012, 22:20
Those of us who CAN think, will need to carry the baton for those who CAN'T think for themselves. Vote and vote well. That, we can all agree.

The first time around I had a month long “battle” with someone that though the anointed one could walk on water. I posted post after post of his blatant racist and socialistic writings and friends, speeches and voting record. He insisted I was wrong and insisted on voting for the Obomination. About three months into his term I received a PM apology. Seems I was right and the guy said his eyes were finally open. A little late, but hopefully he won’t be voting for the messiah this time round.

helo478
03-28-2012, 22:51
This case has the potential to backfire on the O more than healthcare. Many people are already getting the feeling that this case is screwed up by the media and the black pols are looking less serious by the minute. Further this has the potential to piss of lots of hispanic or latinos (whatever) with the behavior of the O administraiton and various race hustlers condeming Zimmer (who is what 1/4 white) as a racist...

Spice it up with the New Black Panther Party offering bounties to kidnap people (federal felony to induce someone to commit kidnapping) and Sheldon "Spike" Lee giving out some other Latino family's address (similar name as shooter) and encouraging people to go to the house, and you have a formula for bad things to happen.

This could easily peel off Latino/Hispanic voters in a tough election year (60+% of the American people do not approve of the O's leadership in a recent poll).

Javelin
03-28-2012, 23:00
This is America.

In 2 months it will be Trayvon who?

samurairabbi
03-28-2012, 23:12
This is America.

In 2 months it will be Trayvon who?

Elian Gonzales shifted the 2000 election to Bush.

Sometimes ENOUGH people in a vital place remember a name long after 2 months have elapsed. An Hispanic with the improbable name of Zimmerman may have the same effect in the 2012 election.

jack76590
03-29-2012, 18:39
I have no doubts Obama is anti gun rights. However, I don't know if he will see pursuing an anti gun agenda, as in the interest of his reelection. And if reelected will Obama see the passing of anti gun agenda as something that will promote his "legacy."

What I do feel at least pretty sure of is that Obama, if he decides to pursue an anti gun agenda, will be careful who is uses as a "poster boy" for gun control. It could well turn out that Martin was no choir boy and that evidence indicates Martin was the aggressor. If this happens and there are subsequent "social disturbances," I really don't believe Obama would want to be seen as having provided an excuse for riots by his use of Martin as a "poster boy/victim."

I can you see Al, Jesse, et al saying after an acquital of Zimmerman that even Obama said Zimmerman was guilty. Where is the justice in America? Lets riot and attack the "man." If this happened Obama's legacy would be seen by many as giving aid and comfort to rioters.

greentriple
04-03-2012, 15:24
OMG yessss, quick gather you and yours, collect your arsenal and for God's sake RUN TO THE HILLS! Or better yet, some place where you can use your Weinstien with impunity like Mogadishu or some Cartel infested town in Mexico.


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shootingrn
04-04-2012, 23:05
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-marshall-crotty/trayvon-martin-and-president-obama_b_1400536.html

Jerry
04-04-2012, 23:50
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-marshall-crotty/trayvon-martin-and-president-obama_b_1400536.html

"If Zimmerman is not charged or is found not guilty, there is a chance of riots erupting across the fruited plain."

If you don’t give us what we want we’ll burn our houses and loot our neighborhood businesses. :upeyes:

If you don’t make this into a crime and punish him we’ll commit crimes. :upeyes:

kirgi08
04-05-2012, 00:21
Typical.'08. :upeyes:

cowboywannabe
04-05-2012, 00:58
riots in my fruited plain come with a non negotiable price tag that will be collected on the spot.

besides, jews and latinos will vote for obama again and again. pride is nothing to many people when it comes to freeloading. we havent seen anything to the contrary.

Jerry
04-05-2012, 11:05
riots in my fruited plain come with a non negotiable price tag that will be collected on the spot.

besides, jews and latinos will vote for obama again and again. pride is nothing to many people when it comes to freeloading. we havent seen anything to the contrary.

:arg: :offtopic: :soap:

All the Jews I’ve known have been hard working and the one I was close to was pro gun. I just don’t understand the mentality of the “liberal” Jews after what happened in Germany and what continues to happen in the Middle East. Just doesn’t make sense to me. My Jewish friend didn’t understand it either. As for the Latino’s, it seems to be the newer generation. All the Latinos I knew growing up were also hard working and were proud to be Americans.

The problem with the “African Americans”, as I see it, is that old All and Jessie and their ilk have so many convinced that they “NEED” the government and if they don’t get what they want they should tear down the neighborhood. But then why not, they didn’t work for it and the “government” will rebuild it free of charge… “free for them that is”.

You’ll notice I put “African American’s” quotes. That’s because there is a number of dark skinned and not so dark skinned people that want to go by that moniker and seem to be the ones with a BIG chip on their shoulders. I find them to be as racist as any White racist I’ve ever run into. Others like Bill Cosby and Morgan Freeman, just to name two, want to be known as “Americans” and good men. No more no less! We need fewer All’s and Jessie’s and more Bill’s and Morgan’s. But the hate mongers always seem to win the day.

cowboywannabe
04-05-2012, 11:46
when race is at the forfront of somebody's argument, you can bet theyre the racists because theyre seeing color over facts.

Jerry
04-05-2012, 12:02
when race is at the forfront of somebody's argument, you can bet theyre the racists because theyre seeing color over facts.

There is no racist race. There are racists is every race. I hate lumping the good in with the bad. I’m often called a racist (by those that see color over fact) for telling it like it is. :faint:

samurairabbi
04-05-2012, 12:42
besides, jews and latinos will vote for obama again and again.

The Zimmerman case may change the Latino voting pattern enough to swing the election. This effect has already happened; the Elian Gonzales case swung Florida to Bush, and changed the 2000 election.

Latino voters are traditionally about 65% Democrat. A decision on whether to CHARGE Zimmerman will be made during the 2012 election run-up, even though any actual trial will probably be AFTER the election. If Latinos get a measure of bitterness over his being "railroaded", that voting margin could easily be cut to, say, 60%. A seemingly small shift, but actually massive in political effect; it would be enough to shift several states, Florida the foremost of them, away from Democratic majorities. A decision to NOT charge Zimmerman may well bring violence to urban streets; not a good lead-in for ANY sitting president up for re-election.

Obama and his advisors are, I am sure, sweating out the permutations resulting from Martin's death.

FM12
04-05-2012, 13:21
Re election is pretty much a done deal in my opinion. The entitlement bunch and the libs will make sure!

Jerry
04-05-2012, 18:02
What bothers me most is anytime a portion of the "African American" community feels they want something to go a certain way we start hearing rumblings of riots. No other race of people do this. Sure people have rioted over soccer games, lacrosse games, college riots and ets. however those were all spontaneous events. No one said, if we don’t win or the collage does give us what we want we want we’ll pillage, plunder, rape and burn. But when I say those that incite, threaten and carryout such acts are animals the “racists” scream racism. If calling a spaded a spade is racism than I guess I’m a racist and Bill and Morgan are old Uncle Toms. Yah that’s it :rofl:

dpadams6
04-05-2012, 18:45
"If Zimmerman is not charged or is found not guilty, there is a chance of riots erupting across the fruited plain."

If you don’t give us what we want we’ll burn our houses and loot our neighborhood businesses. :upeyes:

If you don’t make this into a crime and punish him we’ll commit crimes. :upeyes:

Ya. Burn OUR houses and OUR neighborhood down. I never understood that reasoning in the inner cities.

Jerry
04-05-2012, 19:50
Ya. Burn OUR houses and OUR neighborhood down. I never understood that reasoning in the inner cities.

I had an epiphany. When everything you own eat and drink is furnished by others you have no respect for anything and know that no matter what you do to it, it will be give right back to you so there is no reason not to dilatory it if you don’t get what you want. You’ll get what you want in the end plus all brand new “stuff”. Me thinks there is something wrong with this picture. But what do I know, I’m just a racist.