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davesretired1
03-31-2012, 16:49
Anyone have any experience and can reccomend a quality gas can for storage in the garage? I'm looking to store about 20-25 gals. I'd like to stay away from the cheap plastic cans that have the pour spout built into the cap. TIA. Dave

Warp
03-31-2012, 16:56
I have Scepter Military Fuel Cans. I bought them before the CARB crap went federal, or whatever it was that they did, but you can still find them.

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1400694

Atomic Punk
03-31-2012, 16:57
i would like to be able to buy some nice metal cans at some point. the cheap plastic cans have gotten a lot better. i had a few cheap plastic ones 10 years ago that never really sealed. and always leaked everywhere whenever i filled something up. i have a few of the newer cheap plastic ones with the new type spout. the lock mechanism on it has been annoying a few times. but they seem to stay sealed. i have had them fall over and not leak. and i dont get fuel everywhere when i fill something up.

secamp32
03-31-2012, 17:06
Atlantic British (Roverparts) has metal jerry cans on sale for $35.
http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/GJC20.cfm

I have a few and they appear to be high quality. They call them "Non potable water containers" since they are not CARB compliant and can't legally be sold as gas cans. They also have nozzles for them. There were a couple of long threads on another survival forum and people were pretty happy with them.

Warp
03-31-2012, 17:10
Atlantic British (Roverparts) has metal jerry cans on sale for $35.
http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/GJC20.cfm

I have a few and they appear to be high quality. They call them "Non potable water containers" since they are not CARB compliant and can't legally be sold as gas cans. They also have nozzles for them. There were a couple of long threads on another survival forum and people were pretty happy with them.

Those look potentially usable. Nice find. And a shipping quote for one can to my zip code is only $12.xx. $19 for two. Not bad.

I love the federal law disclaimer. lol

R_W
03-31-2012, 17:12
New ones actually are better, but they still breathe through the plastic. Cheaperthandirt and coleman's surplus had some NATO cans, no clue of the quality.

schild
03-31-2012, 20:04
I don't have a source, but I recall reading it was a fire code violation to store more than ten gallons of gas in an attached garage.

Since I keep ten Nato and Sceptor cans filled I picked up a Knaack gang box off Craigslist that I keep in the shade in my backyard.

Warp
03-31-2012, 20:24
I don't have a source, but I recall reading it was a fire code violation to store more than ten gallons of gas in an attached garage.

Since I keep ten Nato and Sceptor cans filled I picked up a Knaack gang box off Craigslist that I keep in the shade in my backyard.

This will vary depending on where you live.

On a possibly related note, I notice that "socialist republic of" is the entry to your listed location.

How much did you pay for that box? (I have no idea what it is, will have to consult Google shortly)

secamp32
03-31-2012, 20:32
New ones actually are better, but they still breathe through the plastic. Cheaperthandirt and coleman's surplus had some NATO cans, no clue of the quality.

I have no personal knowledge but someone on another forum tried the CTD cans and said that they are crappy.

Carry16
03-31-2012, 22:13
I have 8 of these and I'm very happy with them. I use a jiggle siphon to transfer the fuel.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Jerry-Gas-Diesel-Cans-20L-Steel-German-Military-/270944121585

davesretired1
03-31-2012, 22:44
I don't have a source, but I recall reading it was a fire code violation to store more than ten gallons of gas in an attached garage.

Since I keep ten Nato and Sceptor cans filled I picked up a Knaack gang box off Craigslist that I keep in the shade in my backyard.

Not to be a smart ass, but does that mean I can't park my truck ( 36 gal tank ) in my garage?? :whistling:

schild
04-01-2012, 05:38
Not to be a smart ass, but does that mean I can't park my truck ( 36 gal tank ) in my garage?? :whistling:

Not to be a smart ass, but I would certainly check my homeowners ins. policy to check my coverage before storing what might be considered dangerous amounts of gasoline in portable containers. My own ins. policy states,"Policy does not cover structures used to store gaseous or liquid fuel, other than in a permanently installed fuel tank of a vehicle or craft parked or stored in the structure."

schild
04-01-2012, 05:48
This will vary depending on where you live.

On a possibly related note, I notice that "socialist republic of" is the entry to your listed location.

How much did you pay for that box? (I have no idea what it is, will have to consult Google shortly)

I've picked up four gang boxes, also known as a job box, off Craigslist for between $100-125 each. One is gas storage in the backyard, two are ammo storage(filled with ammo cans), and the fourth has been turned into a farraday cage.

See my above post about ins. policy exclusions.

http://www.scottschildgen.com/photos/725277047_6Tb59-L.jpg

davesretired1
04-01-2012, 14:39
Not to be a smart ass, but I would certainly check my homeowners ins. policy to check my coverage before storing what might be considered dangerous amounts of gasoline in portable containers. My own ins. policy states,"Policy does not cover structures used to store gaseous or liquid fuel, other than in a permanently installed fuel tank of a vehicle or craft parked or stored in the structure."

So I guess that means I can go out and buy a wreck as long as the gas tank is in good shape and store it in the garage.:upeyes:

R_W
04-01-2012, 15:36
So I guess that means I can go out and buy a wreck as long as the gas tank is in good shape and store it in the garage.:upeyes:

Legally, yes. Not the first time you have heard of a stupid law or insurance rule.

glockaviator
04-02-2012, 11:58
Gasoline has shelf life of about two years maximum. You can use stabilizers and it may lengthen it some, but after a few years even stabilized gasoline deteriorates.

From Wall Street Journal Article:
The American Petroleum Institute (http://www.api.org/ehs/health/home/index.cfm#gasoline) recommends taking old gas to an approved disposal facility after, at most, two years of storage.

Warp
04-02-2012, 16:26
I have used gasoline that was about 2 years old without problem. Last year I used some that was 1.5 years old without noticing anything at all.

However, as of last year my personal rule will be no more than 12 months, just to be safe.

I use a double dose of Sta-bil and premium (91 octane) when storing, even though our vehicles use regular 87

blkt2
04-02-2012, 16:54
Anyone have any experience and can reccomend a quality gas can for storage in the garage? I'm looking to store about 20-25 gals. I'd like to stay away from the cheap plastic cans that have the pour spout built into the cap. TIA. Dave

These are outstanding. They also have a lessor quality can that you should avoid. Make sure to buy the matching nozzle at the same time.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ZBQ1412-1.html

Gasoline has shelf life of about two years maximum. You can use stabilizers and it may lengthen it some, but after a few years even stabilized gasoline deteriorates.

From Wall Street Journal Article:
The American Petroleum Institute (http://www.api.org/ehs/health/home/index.cfm#gasoline) recommends taking old gas to an approved disposal facility after, at most, two years of storage.

Gas will store MUCH, MUCH longer then 2 years if you get gas without alcohol in it and store it in metal cans. I have a few hundred of the above Jerry cans that I keep full and began to rotate it after about 3 years. My cars are all turbocharged and are VERY sensitive to fuel quality. All of them ran just fine on 3 year old gas with zero loss of power or performance.

davesretired1
04-02-2012, 16:59
Thanks for all the responses. Dave