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KING-PIN
04-02-2012, 00:58
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/01/10963191-trayvon-martin-case-911-call-screams-not-george-zimmermans-2-experts-say?preview=true

Attempt to pour gas on the fire or did Zimmerman pull a fast one?

What do you think?

Javelin
04-02-2012, 01:08
Won't matter. They can't prove who is screaming on the phone call.

Police declined to arrest Zimmerman citing Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, which gives wide latitude to use deadly force when a threat is perceived.

And he hasn't been charged with anything. So whatever these "experts" say has little to do with anything.

:wavey:

KING-PIN
04-02-2012, 01:11
Won't matter. They can't prove who is screaming on the phone call.



And he hasn't been charged with anything. So whatever these "experts" say has little to do with anything.

:wavey:

That's what I was thinking, since they don't have a sample to compare Treyvon to.

Still, interesting.

cowboywannabe
04-02-2012, 01:16
who is paying these "experts"?

Javelin
04-02-2012, 01:16
What is even more interesting (to me anyway) is that they keep using younger and younger pictures of that Treyvon thug but keep the same old picture of Zimmerman.

So is there spin in this? Most definitely.

:wavey:

KING-PIN
04-02-2012, 01:18
who is paying these "experts"?

I wondered that as well. Have a feeling they might decide whatever their customer feels they should decide.

Personally, now that we can see visible injuries to confirm his story, the MSM is doing whatever they can to keep people mad about this "Murder."

KING-PIN
04-02-2012, 01:20
What is even more interesting (to me anyway) is that they keep using younger and younger pictures of that Treyvon thug but keep the same old picture of Zimmerman.

So is there spin in this? Most definitely.

:wavey:

:rofl:

I hadn't thought about it, but now that you mention it, I'm not sure I've seen the same picture more than a couple times of Treyvon.

Javelin
04-02-2012, 01:24
:rofl:

I hadn't thought about it, but now that you mention it, I'm not sure I've seen the same picture more than a couple times of Treyvon.

I was thinking that if they continue using younger and younger pictures of Treyvon folks will be calling Zimmerman a baby killer.


Probably look something like this.

http://sadhillnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-photos-images-race-baiting-obama-photo-media-bias-sad-hill-news.jpg

KING-PIN
04-02-2012, 01:33
I was thinking that if they continue using younger and younger pictures of Treyvon folks will be calling Zimmerman a baby killer.


Probably look something like this.

http://sadhillnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-photos-images-race-baiting-obama-photo-media-bias-sad-hill-news.jpg

:rofl:

Now that's funny.

slims00ls1z28
04-02-2012, 03:52
"Experts" running a private company much akin to a private detective rather than any official agency expert eh? Let me see a list of convictions in a major case using his evidence and I'll bite some otherwise I'm an "expert" bull**** spotter and I call BS.

DonGlock26
04-02-2012, 04:01
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/01/10963191-trayvon-martin-case-911-call-screams-not-george-zimmermans-2-experts-say?preview=true

Attempt to pour gas on the fire or did Zimmerman pull a fast one?

What do you think?

Sounds like they are they are recklessly trying to keep this controversy alive.


Example:


Investigator: Herman Cain innocent of sexual advances

Private investigator TJ Ward said presidential hopeful Herman Cain was not lying at a news conference on Tuesday in Phoenix.

Cain denied making any sexual actions towards Sharon Bialek and vowed to take a polygraph test if necessary to prove his innocence.

Cain has not taken a polygraph but Ward said he does have software that does something better.

Ward said the $15,000 software can detect lies in people's voices.

CBS Atlanta's Mike Paluska played Cain's speech for Ward into the software and watched as it analyzed Cain's every word.

If he is hiding something this thing would have spiked way down here," said Ward. "He is being truthful, totally truthful. He is a man with integrity and he talked directly about not knowing any incident he is accused of."

The software analyzes the stress level and other factors in your voice. During the speech, when Cain denied the claims, the lie detector read "low risk." According to Ward, that means Cain is telling the truth.

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/16002149/investigator-herman-cain-innocent-of-sexual-advances


This was CBS news buying into this.


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Bren
04-02-2012, 04:20
You may notice that, in every civil or criminal case involving experts, both sides are able to hire "experts" to say exactly the opposite of each other and at least one side's experts are always "mistaken."

In this case, experts hired by news sources that clearly want it to be Martin yelling for help have found experts who have "no doubt" it's Trayvon Martin yelling, besed on NO evidence of Martin's voice and a 48% match of some software they use to Zimmerman's voice. Really? No matter what the topic, the testing and conclusion they reached, based on it, tells you all you need to know about these "experts." however, it's a great way to get in the news and drum up some business for yourself - experts who'll say anything are always in demand.

Bren
04-02-2012, 04:22
I was thinking that if they continue using younger and younger pictures of Treyvon folks will be calling Zimmerman a baby killer.


Probably look something like this.

http://sadhillnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-photos-images-race-baiting-obama-photo-media-bias-sad-hill-news.jpg

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

You may have a future at CNN or MSNBC.

Guss
04-02-2012, 06:01
If these "scientists" want to analyze his voice, I guess they will have to get a sample recording of him as he lies on his back screaming with a 6" 3" fellow on top of him beating the crap out of him. What do you bet that changes a person's vocal characteristics?

JFrame
04-02-2012, 06:40
http://sadhillnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-photos-images-race-baiting-obama-photo-media-bias-sad-hill-news.jpg


http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/just_cuz/JC-hysterical.gif
http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/just_cuz/JC-ROFL.gif

My gosh -- that was good... http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/artists/just_cuz/JC-LOL.gif



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IGotIt
04-02-2012, 06:41
Correct me if I'm wrong but soon after the tapes were released didn't someone say the screams were not Trayvon's. Now these "experts" are saying the screams are not from Zimmerman. There were only two people present, so who was screaming?

Going a bit further, didn't a witness see Zimmerman on the ground and hear him screaming for help while under Trayvon. Guess that doesn't count.

steveksux
04-02-2012, 07:18
who is paying these "experts"?Good point. Anyway, thought I read somewhere they played the tape for Martin's parents and they said it was not their son.

Randy

steveksux
04-02-2012, 07:21
If these "scientists" want to analyze his voice, I guess they will have to get a sample recording of him as he lies on his back screaming with a 6" 3" fellow on top of him beating the crap out of him. What do you bet that changes a person's vocal characteristics?Contact the Panthers, I think they'd be willing to assist setting up a test scenario.... :whistling:

Randy

Gundude
04-02-2012, 08:26
I was thinking that if they continue using younger and younger pictures of Treyvon folks will be calling Zimmerman a baby killer.


Probably look something like this.

http://sadhillnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-photos-images-race-baiting-obama-photo-media-bias-sad-hill-news.jpgThey'd never use something like that.








George doesn't look nearly white enough in that picture...

JFrame
04-02-2012, 08:51
They'd never use something like that.

George doesn't look nearly white enough in that picture...


The dreadlocks might throw off the narrative also. Maybe MSNBC could use a picture of Michael Meyers wearing the spray-painted "Capt. Kirk" mask...? :dunno:


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Guss
04-02-2012, 08:57
Good point. Anyway, thought I read somewhere they played the tape for Martin's parents and they said it was not their son.

Randy
The version I heard had an official saying that Trayvon's father had said it did not sound like his son. That was during the private preview the father was given before the public release. Once the family spoke to their lawyers, the opinion seemed to change.