Used Noveske N4

[bigmoney890]

Just saw a coyote tan Noveske N4 with magpul mbus, 13" Troy Ind. Alpha Rail, and Vltor collapsible stock for $1199. Seem like a good deal?

[LA_357SIG]

Is it a complete Noveske? IMO if you drop $$$ on a Noveske, you are paying for the barrel and rollmarks. (ETA: Or optional Gen II lowers and switchblock) Try to check the barrel markings and see if they match up to factory markings.

[bigmoney890]

Yes, it's a complete Noveske, but I was in a hurry so I put a quick 10% down and had to run. Ill look closer next week when I go make a payment. I actually went in to get a lower receiver, but they are on order. So I figure if there turns out to be something fishy with it, I can just apply the 10% to my lower instead

[cyphertext]

Send Javelin a PM and ask him what to look for to make sure of what you are getting, and advice on price.

[WoodenPlank]

Send Javelin a PM and ask him what to look for to make sure of what you are getting, and advice on price.

Agreed.

[bigmoney890]

Just sent him a PM, thanks everyone

[GSSF17]

Just saw a coyote tan Noveske N4 with magpul mbus, 13" Troy Ind. Alpha Rail, and Vltor collapsible stock for $1199. Seem like a good deal?

Assuming it is all legit, then definitely yes.

[bigmoney890]

Assuming it is all legit, then definitely yes.

Eh, there's always a catch when I find something I like. Just called up there are talked to the guy to get all the specs down.

Noveske Complete Lower w/ Vltor Stock
DPMS Upper, 16 inch Stainless Barrel
Unknown BCG, probably DPMS also
13" Troy Vtac Rail, Not the Alpha
Troy Evil Muzzle brake

Might be a good riffle, but not for $1199, especially not that much for it used. But again, anyone have any feedback?

[GSSF17]

Eh, there's always a catch when I find something I like. Just called up there are talked to the guy to get all the specs down.

Noveske Complete Lower w/ Vltor Stock
DPMS Upper, 16 inch Stainless Barrel
Unknown BCG, probably DPMS also
13" Troy Vtac Rail, Not the Alpha
Troy Evil Muzzle brake

Might be a good riffle, but not for $1199, especially not that much for it used. But again, anyone have any feedback?


SCREEEEECHHHH! Put on the brakes.... DPMS barrel, upper, and likely BCG as well? No way. Apply your 10% to a lower, and good luck

[WoodenPlank]

Eh, there's always a catch when I find something I like. Just called up there are talked to the guy to get all the specs down.

Noveske Complete Lower w/ Vltor Stock
DPMS Upper, 16 inch Stainless Barrel
Unknown BCG, probably DPMS also
13" Troy Vtac Rail, Not the Alpha
Troy Evil Muzzle brake

Might be a good riffle, but not for $1199, especially not that much for it used. But again, anyone have any feedback?

SCREEEEECHHHH! Put on the brakes.... DPMS barrel, upper, and likely BCG as well? No way. Apply your 10% to a lower, and good luck

Put on the brakes, then haul ass the other direction. That's way overblown for anything with a DPMS upper that isn't in .308. Talk about putting lipstick on a pig, yikes.

[bigmoney890]

SCREEEEECHHHH! Put on the brakes.... DPMS barrel, upper, and likely BCG as well? No way. Apply your 10% to a lower, and good luck

That's what I shall do on monday

Put on the brakes, then haul ass the other direction. That's way overblown for anything with a DPMS upper that isn't in .308. Talk about putting lipstick on a pig, yikes.

Yeah I shouldnt have known something was up. While I was waiting for the paperwork to be drawn up, i was browsing the AR's closest to the Register, which was a rack of DPMS. All were over 1K and none were .308, I shouldve ran then...

[WoodenPlank]

That's what I shall do on monday



Yeah I shouldnt have known something was up. While I was waiting for the paperwork to be drawn up, i was browsing the AR's closest to the Register, which was a rack of DPMS. All were over 1K and none were .308, I shouldve ran then...

Yeah, you should have. By the way, my favorite haunt in Fayetteville is backordered on almost all AR parts at this point, upwards of 12 weeks on barrels, I believe. :wow:

Edit: Gotta ask, who the hell was selling DPMS for over a grand?

[bigmoney890]

Yeah, you should have. By the way, my favorite haunt in Fayetteville is backordered on almost all AR parts at this point, upwards of 12 weeks on barrels, I believe. :wow:

Edit: Gotta ask, who the hell was selling DPMS for over a grand?

Yeah, Minutemen Tactical who I like to use is back ordered for months on all lowers. Plenty of LPK's, handguards, stocks, etc. But no lowers or uppers...

It was Jims Gun Warehouse, also known as jims pawn shop.

Shooters supply where you usually go right? I got a bad taste in my mouth last time I went because they had a Gen3 G22 for $699 used. It had a dawson magwell, that's it. And the guy behind the counter couldnt explain why it was $200+ overpriced. Plus all of their Glocks were about $75 overpriced. Havnet been back since, but next time I'm in fayetteville and arent in a rush, Ill stop back by

[WoodenPlank]

Yeah, Minutemen Tactical who I like to use is back ordered for months on all lowers. Plenty of LPK's, handguards, stocks, etc. But no lowers or uppers...

It was Jims Gun Warehouse, also known as jims pawn shop.

Shooters supply where you usually go right? I got a bad taste in my mouth last time I went because they had a Gen3 G22 for $699 used. It had a dawson magwell, that's it. And the guy behind the counter couldnt explain why it was $200+ overpriced. Plus all of their Glocks were about $75 overpriced. Havnet been back since, but next time I'm in fayetteville and arent in a rush, Ill stop back by

Well there's your problem (in bold).

Are you sure that was Shooters? I've never seen a used Glock for anywhere near $699 in there that I can remember, and they usually run at or just under MSRP on new Glocks - cheaper if you know how to avoid getting hit with the idiot tax. Marty and John are the to guys to talk to behind the counter, but John is usually up to his eyeballs in AR parts in the back, often un-****ing some AR that a GI or another gun shop buggered up.

[bigmoney890]

Well there's your problem (in bold).

Are you sure that was Shooters? I've never seen a used Glock for anywhere near $699 in there that I can remember, and they usually run at or just under MSRP on new Glocks - cheaper if you know how to avoid getting hit with the idiot tax. Marty and John are the to guys to talk to behind the counter, but John is usually up to his eyeballs in AR parts in the back, often un-****ing some AR that a GI or another gun shop buggered up.

Well ordinarily I stay away from places like Jims, but they have thousands of guns in stock and on display and IMO they have the best selection. I used to go to Ed's in southern pines but my family recently moved to bunnlevel which is right outside spring lake.

And yes, it was shooters supply, the building on the corner beside all the asian strip clubs :rofl:

And i went in there on the advice of a friend and saw the prices and was discouraged. But then again, all the shops in our area price gouging since guns are apparently in short supply recently

[WoodenPlank]

Well ordinarily I stay away from places like Jims, but they have thousands of guns in stock and on display and IMO they have the best selection. I used to go to Ed's in southern pines but my family recently moved to bunnlevel which is right outside spring lake.

And yes, it was shooters supply, the building on the corner beside all the asian strip clubs :rofl:

And i went in there on the advice of a friend and saw the prices and was discouraged. But then again, all the shops in our area price gouging since guns are apparently in short supply recently

Yeah, last time I was home, they were all but out of Glocks, and were weeks out from getting more. That's definitely the right place, too. If you want some real entertainment, stand in front of the shop one day and count the prostitutes and drug dealers walking up and down Bragg Blvd... :whistling:

[bigmoney890]

Yeah, last time I was home, they were all but out of Glocks, and were weeks out from getting more. That's definitely the right place, too. If you want some real entertainment, stand in front of the shop one day and count the prostitutes and drug dealers walking up and down Bragg Blvd... :whistling:

You just described my teenage years...:rofl:

[WoodenPlank]

You just described my teenage years...:rofl:

My girlfriend didn't understand why I own guns and carry everywhere until I took her to NC to meet my family, and we dropped by Shooters for a bit. All it took was one look at Bragg Blvd and she completely understood.

[bigmoney890]

My girlfriend didn't understand why I own guns and carry everywhere until I took her to NC to meet my family, and we dropped by Shooters for a bit. All it took was one look at Bragg Blvd and she completely understood.

Exactly! I carry as often as I can, but the only places I go are work, class, and the liquor store on base. So I'm rarely able to carry anymore. But when I ride to Fayett-nam I ALWAYS carry.

[HAIL CAESAR]

Don"t buy it.

[bigmoney890]

Don"t buy it.

Im not, im steering back towards my build. As soon as one of my local gun stores get a lower in

[Airhasz]

Im not, im steering back towards my build. As soon as one of my local gun stores get a lower in

That is the big problem with a build...waiting, chasing parts down, etc. Plus shipping on all the different parts...since you probably have to use many different sources due to backorders has got to also add up to increase the price of a build. I like the build idea, but glad I found a rifle off the shelf I'm happy with or I too would be checking internet parts stock every hour around the clock and waiting for UPS truck everyday.

[bigmoney890]

That is the big problem with a build...waiting, chasing parts down, etc. Plus shipping on all the different parts...since you probably have to use many different sources due to backorders has got to also add up to increase the price of a build. I like the build idea, but glad I found a rifle off the shelf I'm happy with or I too would be checking internet parts stock every hour around the clock and waiting for UPS truck everyday.

It is a problem. Thankfully PSA isnt on backorder on any of the parts I need/want. Although their disclaimer on their website says please allow 15 days or so for processing or something along those lines. Plus shipping time, that's around 3 weeks. A long time, but better than waiting for backordered parts i guess

[Airhasz]

It is a problem. Thankfully PSA isnt on backorder on any of the parts I need/want. Although their disclaimer on their website says please allow 15 days or so for processing or something along those lines. Plus shipping time, that's around 3 weeks. A long time, but better than waiting for backordered parts i guess

You could have broken in the irons sights and be adjusting your new red dot by now...lol. I guess waiting for parts is cool if you can only afford to purchase a part a paycheck that way the wait wouldn't be such a hassle. Lots of Assault Rifles in all the sporting goods and local gun shops here in Michigan and lots going out the door every day also.

[bigmoney890]

You could have broken in the irons sights and be adjusting your new red dot by now...lol. I guess waiting for parts is cool if you can only afford to purchase a part a paycheck that way the wait wouldn't be such a hassle. Lots of Assault Rifles in all the sporting goods and local gun shops here in Michigan and lots going out the door every day also.

They cant keep them on the shelves down here, especially since a lot of soldiers are back in town. Jim's got a shipment of 8 oracles and 8 WASR ak's in on monday of last week. There are now zero oracle's and only 3 WASR's left. It's too hard to find anything even if you are on their call list. By the time they call you and you get there, whatever you have been waiting for is sold. It's like this all of over town!

[Manimal]

http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/AR_15_Lower_Receivers_s/3021.htm

In case you want to order a lower. I got my two spikes lowers from them.

[bigmoney890]

Thanks for the help maninal but The spike's lowers there are on order and no idea when they will be in stock, thanks though. DSGARMS.com has them for 94.95 right now in stock, i'm in the middle of placing the order. Just depends on the shipping weather or not I buy now or wait a few days so I can bank up some more money :rofl:

[GSSF17]

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1STSLCJack&name=Spike's+Tactical+Multi.+Cal.+Calico+Jack+AR+Receiver&groupid=301&search=lower+receiver

You need a lower? There you go! :thumbsup:

[bigmoney890]

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1STSLCJack&name=Spike's+Tactical+Multi.+Cal.+Calico+Jack+AR+Receiver&groupid=301&search=lower+receiver (http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1STSLCJack&name=Spike%27s+Tactical+Multi.+Cal.+Calico+Jack+AR+Receiver&groupid=301&search=lower+receiver)

You need a lower? There you go! :thumbsup:

THANK YOU! I am literally on that site every day checking if they have lowers in stock, and as of last night, they were out of stock. Im glad you posted that or else i would have spent an extra $30+ on the same lower! Thanks agian, will call my LGS as soon as I can in the morning to fax the ffl license to them!

[Hour13]

Eh, there's always a catch when I find something I like. Just called up there are talked to the guy to get all the specs down.

Noveske Complete Lower w/ Vltor Stock
DPMS Upper, 16 inch Stainless Barrel
Unknown BCG, probably DPMS also
13" Troy Vtac Rail, Not the Alpha
Troy Evil Muzzle brake

Might be a good riffle, but not for $1199, especially not that much for it used. But again, anyone have any feedback?

Blasphemy.
:steamed:

[Hour13]

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1STSLCJack&name=Spike's+Tactical+Multi.+Cal.+Calico+Jack+AR+Receiver&groupid=301&search=lower+receiver

You need a lower? There you go! :thumbsup:

These guys at AIM are great to deal with. I ordered some magpul goodies in foliage green from them. Turns out the rail covers were boxed wrong, OD Green. He emailed me and let me know, asked if I wanted the covers anyway, or a refund. I jokingly asked what price he'd give me on a MOE stock in OD Green.

$39 :supergrin:

I was a happy camper!

[bigmoney890]

Blasphemy.
:steamed:

Yes, I was in too much of a hurry today to find out all the details about the gun today. I ASSumed the gun was a full Noveske, and DPMS certainly never crossed my mind. So when I called back up there to find out more about the gun and i was told it was a DPMS upper, the guy literally laughed when I said "are you serious?!" That's what I get for assuming and not taking the time to fully check something out!

[bigmoney890]

These guys at AIM are great to deal with. I ordered some magpul goodies in foliage green from them. Turns out the rail covers were boxed wrong, OD Green. He emailed me and let me know, asked if I wanted the covers anyway, or a refund. I jokingly asked what price he'd give me on a MOE stock in OD Green.

$39 :supergrin:

I was a happy camper!

That's what I like to hear! Good quality customer service will keep people coming back. I just wish my LGS would follow some practical manners like that!

[Hour13]

That's what I like to hear! Good quality customer service will keep people coming back. I just wish my LGS would follow some practical manners like that!

:thumbsup:

Ya, it makes a big difference. My favorite sites to deal with for all gun stuff in general...

SGammo.com (the BEST bulk ammo prices, period)
Bravo Co (just plain awesome)
AIM (CS is top-notch)
DSG Arms (Killer deals, and lightning quick shipping)
Midway (they poke you on shipping, but their inventory is EPIC)

[bigmoney890]

:thumbsup:

Ya, it makes a big difference. My favorite sites to deal with for all gun stuff in general...

SGammo.com (the BEST bulk ammo prices, period)
Bravo Co (just plain awesome)
AIM (CS is top-notch)
DSG Arms (Killer deals, and lightning quick shipping)
Midway (they poke you on shipping, but their inventory is EPIC)


Thanks for some good sites, I'm bookmarking them right now!

[bigmoney890]

Just got my money back for the "Noveske" less a $35 restock fee...

[cyphertext]

Just got my money back for the "Noveske" less a $35 restock fee...

You had to pay a restock fee for a firearm that never left their stock? :wow:

[WoodenPlank]

You had to pay a restock fee for a firearm that never left their stock? :wow:

That's nothing compared to the shenanigans that shop has pulled in the past.

Sent from the USS Sulaco, while nuking the site from orbit.

[bigmoney890]

You had to pay a restock fee for a firearm that never left their stock? :wow:

I would have argued but the guy was being rude, so i'll just mark that as a store never to return to. He even said hastily "man, i could have sold this to a guy earlier. Some guy asked a bout the 'noveske' and i had to tell him someone bought it." I just smiled. If the gun was advertised properly he could have made that sale to the other gentlemen today.

[WoodenPlank]

I would have argued but the guy was being rude, so i'll just mark that as a store never to return to. He even said hastily "man, i could have sold this to a guy earlier. Some guy asked a bout the 'noveske' and i had to tell him someone bought it." I just smiled. If the gun was advertised properly he could have made that sale to the other gentlemen today.

Sounds typical. I assume its not the Fayetteville location, though, so was this the Southern Pines store?

Sent from the USS Sulaco, while nuking the site from orbit.

[bigmoney890]

No, it was Jim's in Fayetteville

[WoodenPlank]

No, it was Jim's in Fayetteville

Bunch of damn assclowns.

Sent from the USS Sulaco, while nuking the site from orbit.

[bigmoney890]

Bunch of damn assclowns.

Sent from the USS Sulaco, while nuking the site from orbit.

Indeed. But it's all solved now, my lower is on it's way and my parts kit will be ordered on monday!

[WoodenPlank]

Indeed. But it's all solved now, my lower is on it's way and my parts kit will be ordered on monday!

Who did you have it shipped to?

Sent from the USS Sulaco, while nuking the site from orbit.

[bigmoney890]

Minuteman tactical. Its a relatively new store. Kinda small but the guys in there are great.

[Copis]

Hmmmmm.......while back noveske was offering a "buy a gun get a cosmetic blem lower for free" This frankengun is probably a result of the above offer........