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Zell
04-10-2012, 13:40
Santorum is out -- Now it's time to set your own egos and political agendas aside and move on. And don't forget to throw your support behind Romney on the way out the door. To not do so, would be un-American.:supergrin:

JBnTX
04-10-2012, 15:14
Yep, time to rally round the winner (Romney) and go for Obama's cojones.

G-19
04-10-2012, 16:20
I agree it is time they step out. They have no chance at beating Obama. Romney is the only one who stands a chance of getting rid of Obummer.

Cavalry Doc
04-10-2012, 17:11
Not in my top three, but better than Barry. I'm hoping Gingrich sticks it out at least through the Texas Primary. I really don't want to vote for Romney more than once.

walt cowan
04-10-2012, 17:14
newt and mitt sealed the deal for the vp slot last week. that tavon thing kept that out of the main stream news. now there is that peskie thing they call a covention mitt has to make it through. not a lock yet.

aspartz
04-10-2012, 17:17
Will the GOP send me a set of nose clips so I can have both hands free to vote?

ARS

G19G20
04-10-2012, 17:18
Romney hasn't "won" anything. He's still barely halfway to the 1144 magic number and no one wants to vote for him (ahem...except fellow Mormons). Voices for conservatism should remain in the race until the convention.

Will the GOP send me a set of nose clips so I can have both hands free to vote?

ARS

Don't you still have the set from 2008? If not, definitely save the 2012 set for 2016 too.

aspartz
04-10-2012, 17:24
Don't you still have the set from 2008? If not, definitely save the 2012 set for 2016 too.
I threw mine away in 2000 when they could not keep the bad aroma of GWB from reaching my brain. Perhaps the GOP needs to issue a Scentsy to their voters this time.

ARS

JK-linux
04-10-2012, 17:29
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Restless28
04-10-2012, 17:42
Let's see Romney debate Ron Paul. Paul will school him on economics and the Constitution. Ask them both about 2a rights, and ask the Mitt about his disdain for assault rifles.

G19G20
04-10-2012, 18:13
I'd like to see at least one or two debates between Romney and someone who is not Santorum. Maybe push a few issues just so when have on public record where the anointed one (Romney) stands. A little stress on the contrast between Romney and the others on certain positions would be great before the circus begins.

I'd love to see a H2H Romney vs Paul debate. Romney has been ducking a proposed debate in Texas before their primary. Paul, Newt, and Santo all agreed. Romney ignored it.

The Machinist
04-10-2012, 18:36
Hey Zell, you want to know what's un-American? Voting for a gun-grabber. Voting for the architect of Obamacare. Giving your consent, and telling him, "I'm OK that you did these things. You have my vote." That's un-American.

ken grant
04-10-2012, 18:37
Romney is just another RINO like McCain was.
I believe we will get the same results with Obama serving another 4 yrs.

The only real hope is to keep control of the House and take control of the Senate.

The Machinist
04-10-2012, 18:39
Romney is just another RINO like McCain was.
I believe we will get the same results with Obama serving another 4 yrs.

The only real hope is to keep control of the House and take control of the Senate.
Obama is a lock. Last time he went head to head with a RINO, he nailed him to the wall. Romney's got nothing.

Gundude
04-10-2012, 18:51
I agree it is time they step out. They have no chance at beating Obama. Romney is the only one who stands a chance of getting rid of Obummer.How is it that Romney stands a chance and they don't?

They're all "anybody but Obama." What sets Romney apart from them, in terms of the general election?

Kingarthurhk
04-10-2012, 18:51
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lancesorbenson
04-10-2012, 19:26
At this rate the 2016 presidential election will feature Hillary on the Democratic ticket and Chucky Schumer for the GOP. Our resident "pragmatists" will lecture us all on the importance of holding our nose and voting for Chucky.

juggy4711
04-10-2012, 19:59
Paul should drop out if his intention was only to win. He's not insane as many claim and realizes his chances to win are slim. He's staying in the race to put pressure on the GOP to actually be conservative.

Chuck TX
04-10-2012, 20:56
How is it that Romney stands a chance and they don't?

They're all "anybody but Obama." What sets Romney apart from them, in terms of the general election?

Because snake oil is making a comeback. :rofl:

DOC44
04-10-2012, 21:11
it ain't over til its over.

Doc44

Cavalry Doc
04-11-2012, 05:58
Romney hasn't "won" anything. He's still barely halfway to the 1144 magic number and no one wants to vote for him (ahem...except fellow Mormons). Voices for conservatism should remain in the race until the convention.



Don't you still have the set from 2008? If not, definitely save the 2012 set for 2016 too.

I'm not a fan of Romney, but somebody is voting for him, and I highly doubt you are correct on the Mormon conspiracy.

Maybe the country is center left instead of center right? THAT's a depressing thought.


Anyway, it's bad enough without having to make up stories like that.

russtang
04-11-2012, 21:38
The cross-over vote is having a big effect on the GOP primary IMO. The D's WANT Romney to run against Obama. The left, the media, have been saying Romney would be the best candidate to run against Obama from the start.
That ought to tell you something.

With Santorum dropping out, that gives Newt a big chance to make it interesting. I think all the "religious right" as they're called, would vote for Newt over Romney.

If Santorum casts his support to Newt, Look Out.

It's still sickening to have to choose between the retreads and lesser-of-two-evils.

Naelbis
04-11-2012, 21:58
I have no intention of voting for Romney as I fail to see the difference between a liberal(R) and socialist(D). I refuse to vote the lesser of two evils anymore so this registered Republican will be voting Mickey Mouse for President this time around. And if that means that our country slides closer to oblivion then we brought it on ourselves by choosing such pathetic candidates for office.

G19G20
04-12-2012, 13:53
Ron Paul has been meeting with evangelical leaders in Texas and pledged to them that he is staying in. Doug Wead is a campaign advisor so he would know what's going on behind the scenes.

http://dougwead.wordpress.com/2012/04/12/evangelicals-turn-to-ron-paul/


In the wake of Senator Rick Santorum’s departure from the presidential race there are signs that some evangelical leaders are refusing to jump on board the Mitt Romney bandwagon and are turning to Congressman Ron Paul instead. The Texas congressman spoke to several thousand people last night at the Will Rogers Auditorium in downtown Fort Worth but met quietly afterward with evangelical leaders.
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Meanwhile, the Ron Paul campaign, with cash on hand, has begun airing television ads in Texas and launches another moneybomb this weekend.

“I have one question for you,” one of the ministers reportedly said in the private meeting last night with Dr. Ron Paul, “Are you going to drop out? Or will you stay in all the way to Tampa?”

“I’m in,” the Texan replied.

“That’s all I need to know,” the minister said.

The evangelical community began reaching out to Dr. Paul almost immediately after Senator Rick Santorum dropped out of the presidential race. Yesterday, Pastor Steven Andrew of USA Christian Ministries announced his support of the congressman, calling for a day of prayer and fasting. Andrew released a statement saying that, “After Santorum, Ron Paul is the most God-fearing Presidential candidate [and] the Republican party should endorse him.” Andrew said that “If Republicans don’t give a Christian candidate, Christians should look elsewhere – even to a third party.”


I can't really see how any evangelical social conservative voter could prefer Newt over RP at this point. One guy was kicked out of the House for being a crook and a schmuck, married three times, etc and the other has been married 55 years to the same woman and has always supported social conservative values. There's no contest.....unless continuing perpetual war is more important that social conservative values.

brickboy240
04-12-2012, 15:33
If the others quit, this does NOT mean Romney has any better of a chance of beating Obama and the big media machine.

If you think Romney can win...you are delusional. The DNC and media will pull out all the stops to make sure their boy wins. Smears, lies, hit pieces on Romney and his running mate, dead people and illegals voting several times....you name it.

- brickboy240

G-19
04-12-2012, 16:45
If the others quit, this does NOT mean Romney has any better of a chance of beating Obama and the big media machine.

If you think Romney can win...you are delusional. The DNC and media will pull out all the stops to make sure their boy wins. Smears, lies, hit pieces on Romney and his running mate, dead people and illegals voting several times....you name it.

- brickboy240

You are probably right, but do you think it would be any different with any other candidate?

RCP
04-12-2012, 20:44
You are probably right, but do you think it would be any different with any other candidate?

Sure with Ron Paul there wouldn't be nearly as many people who would refuse to hold their nose and vote for a Liberal such as Romney. You would get the sheep ABO vote (that Romney will get) along with a strong Independent and Libertarian vote.

G-19
04-13-2012, 15:04
Sure with Ron Paul there wouldn't be nearly as many people who would refuse to hold their nose and vote for a Liberal such as Romney. You would get the sheep ABO vote (that Romney will get) along with a strong Independent and Libertarian vote.

Do you not understand, even if by some miracle that RP became POTUS he would be a lame duck from day one? He would not get any support from either side of the aisle. Congress will still be accountable to their constituents and will never follow RP's ideas.

So even if the clandestine plan the Roulans claim is going on were to actually work, the only thing they could achieve is the most ineffectual president in history, even more so than BHO.

RCP
04-13-2012, 21:20
Do you not understand, even if by some miracle that RP became POTUS he would be a lame duck from day one? He would not get any support from either side of the aisle. Congress will still be accountable to their constituents and will never follow RP's ideas.

So even if the clandestine plan the Roulans claim is going on were to actually work, the only thing they could achieve is the most ineffectual president in history, even more so than BHO.

I'll take it, the less the Federal Gov't "accomplishes" the better.:wavey:

Glock30Eric
04-14-2012, 06:08
I'll take it, the less the Federal Gov't "accomplishes" the better.:wavey:

Yeah and the blame game will be redirected to the house and senators.


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G-19
04-14-2012, 09:11
Yeah and the blame game will be redirected to the house and senators.


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Wishful thinking, The President always takes the blame. Congress always gets a walk. Just the way it is, the man at the top gets the blame.

Ruble Noon
04-14-2012, 10:20
Do you not understand, even if by some miracle that RP became POTUS he would be a lame duck from day one? He would not get any support from either side of the aisle. Congress will still be accountable to their constituents and will never follow RP's ideas.

So even if the clandestine plan the Roulans claim is going on were to actually work, the only thing they could achieve is the most ineffectual president in history, even more so than BHO.


BHO has been very effective. I vehemently disagree with his policies but he has gotten most of his agenda passed. That said, I would take an ineffectual Paul for nothing more than pausing our slide into the abyss.