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FLIPPER 348
04-10-2012, 18:40
Many here were predicting she would be in the running and have no problem defeating President Obama. So what happened??

MoneyMaker
04-10-2012, 19:23
Making more homemade porn movies,bwahahahaha

RustyShackelford
04-10-2012, 19:26
Too busy making that sweet cash. She and Herman Cain led on the (R) hardcore, only to use them up. Maybe Romney will save us all....?

/bwahahaha

callihan_44
04-10-2012, 19:36
or she got tired of liberal loons stalking her family and decided they were more important.

JBnTX
04-10-2012, 21:21
Her 15 minutes of fame are over.

certifiedfunds
04-10-2012, 21:51
Her 15 minutes of fame are over.

I'm not a fan but that's a pretty ignorant comment (no surprise). She guest-hosted the Today show last week.

Walt_NC
04-10-2012, 22:11
I'm not a fan but that's a pretty ignorant comment (no surprise). She guest-hosted the Today show last week.

Did she stick around for the entire broadcast or quit halfway through once the check cleared?

juggy4711
04-10-2012, 22:18
I'm not a fan but that's a pretty ignorant comment (no surprise). She guest-hosted the Today show last week.

I'm no fan nor a Palin hater and finding myself in agreement with JB *shudders*, but the Today show...last week. Her 15 minutes are up. If she wasn't attractive she never would have had a 15 minutes. After backing McCain for senate re-election, she is politically compromised and at this point just another celebrity.

That said God Bless her and hope she makes all the loot she can from her time in the spot light.

JBnTX
04-10-2012, 22:41
I'm no fan nor a Palin hater and finding myself in agreement with JB *shudders*...


Does this mean we're best friends forever now?:wavey:

Big Mad Dawg
04-10-2012, 23:24
She was smart enough to know that she could support conservatives better by not running. I wonder (no I don’t nether dose anyone) if the obama would have the same level of foresight and integrity? How about biden would he bow out if he was making the obama and the whole democrat party look stupid? We know that answer too.

But by starting threads like this it shows how much liberals still fear her got to love lefty cowards.

juggy4711
04-10-2012, 23:27
Does this mean we're best friends forever now?:wavey:

No just that even a blind squirrel finds a nut now an then. :whistling: Seriously though, how you can see through Palin and still be as politically obtuse as you are in other areas is amazing. It's that level of inconsistency that leads to questions of your sanity and/or accusations that you are just trolling.

I wouldn't accuse you of intellectual dishonesty as I might others, and if I have in the past forgive me as my opinion has changed over time; but if you seriously hold to all of your stated positions, I think you are well intentioned but incredibly misguided and confused. Which as it may be unflattering is the same way I view those that honestly lean left; as one who just doesn't know better.

If on the other hand you are trolling, my hat is off to you. You'd be the single most skilled political troll I have ever encountered, as you come across genuinely regardless how contradictory your positions are.

All that said I imagine outside of politics, we could have a beer summit and get along just fine. As long as it was dark beer. :supergrin:

smokeross
04-11-2012, 00:28
Sarah is up here keeping a wary eye on Russia from her Wasilla home.

Flintlocker
04-11-2012, 05:14
The thing about Palin is that she quit, within 2 years, the only thing that brought her fame. Cash and carry.

Bruce H
04-11-2012, 05:39
I would like to see a bunch of you whiners go through the grinder she went through. Instead of coming out looking like Sarah Palin all of you would look like Nancy Pelosi.

aircarver
04-11-2012, 06:07
\all of you would look like Nancy Pelosi.

Pelosi :ack: is their hero ........:upeyes:

.

Big Mad Dawg
04-11-2012, 06:28
Their dream woman would have Pelosi’s face and turkey neck with Michelle’s big butt.

Brucev
04-11-2012, 06:36
She was smart enough to know that she could support conservatives better by not running.

But by starting threads like this it shows how much liberals still fear her got to love lefty cowards.

Correct.

RustyShackelford
04-11-2012, 07:21
What is this term "fear" everyone keeps using in reference to Sarah Palin...?

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwru33NE821r803nno1_500.jpg

JBnTX
04-11-2012, 07:27
It's funny how if you have no confidence in Sarah Palin, you're labeled a liberal and must be afraid of her?

Afraid of a woman who served only 18 months as Alaska's governor and then quit for personal reasons?

Afraid of a woman who's made so many verbal flubs that people question her knowledge of foreign policy and economics?

Afraid of a woman who led the country to believe she would run for president,
but then at the last minute she backed out?

Sarah Palin is a quitter. She quit in Alaska and she quit on the American people.

NOBODY has any reason to fear Sarah Palin.

JBnTX
04-11-2012, 07:34
... Seriously though, how you can see through Palin and still be as politically obtuse as you are in other areas is amazing. It's that level of inconsistency that leads to questions of your sanity and/or accusations that you are just trolling. :


Keep in mind my intelligence level is NOT determined by whether or not
I agree with you.

We disagree and I think you're a smart person, but you think I'm a fool.
I wonder what the difference is?

I predicted Sarah Palin would NOT run for president when all the rest
of you were slobbering all over her.

Maybe I'm not so ignorant after all!

..

Big Mad Dawg
04-11-2012, 07:38
"Methinks the hater doth protest too much"

Brucev
04-11-2012, 07:39
Re: fear... etc., etc., etc. One of the prime reasons the left looks with askance at Palin is that she has demonstrated the ability to get in close and fight. Given the vacuum of leadership among conservatives and republicans, she gets attention. Don't like it? Then develop real leaders who can do more than simply spout talking points and bow down before the no new tax pledge, etc. Develop leaders who can actually lead. But of course that will take time... and effort, etc. So just keep putting up empty suits like the also rans in the recent primaries. Complain about how "real" conservatives can't support Romney, etc.

FLIPPER 348
04-11-2012, 08:02
What is this term "fear" everyone keeps using in reference to Sarah Palin...?




It is the humorous fall-back response used by the right wingers.


Romney is the chosen one. Where are all the Palin 2012 folk these days??

JBnTX
04-11-2012, 08:17
One of the prime reasons the left looks with askance at Palin is that she has demonstrated the ability to get in close and fight...


How has she demonstrated the ability to "get in close and fight"?
What battles did she win?

America is in the biggest political battle of it's existence, where is she?
Why doesn't she run for president?

If there ever was an opportunity to "get in close and fight", it's now.
Where is she?

Her country needs her.
Where is she?

..

Big Mad Dawg
04-11-2012, 08:30
[QUOTE=FLIPPER 348;18829825]It is the humorous fall-back response used by the right wingers.[QUOTE]

Flipper we could always use the obama apologist fall back “it’s Bush’s Fault” :crying:

DOC44
04-11-2012, 08:35
I think Palin will show up when its time. When the nomination is completed I think you will see Palin out there kicking some 'bamas butts.

Doc44

walt cowan
04-11-2012, 08:40
she's just sitting on the "club" bench. pinch/relife hitter.

JBnTX
04-11-2012, 08:53
I think Palin will show up when its time. When the nomination is completed I think you will see Palin out there kicking some 'bamas butts.

Doc44


In what "official" capacity?

Giving a well rehearsed and scripted speech at the convention
won't accomplish much.

Going on the network TV shows and repeating what she's been told to say
over and over won't accomplish much.

Unless she's elected president she won't accomplish much.

DOC44
04-11-2012, 09:15
In what "official" capacity?

Giving a well rehearsed and scripted speech at the convention
won't accomplish much.

Going on the network TV shows and repeating what she's been told to say
over and over won't accomplish much.

Unless she's elected president she won't accomplish much.

You may be correct. But I think she may have a positive influence on voters once the candidates are chosen.

Doc44

Walt_NC
04-11-2012, 09:23
I think Palin will show up when its time. When the nomination is completed I think you will see Palin out there kicking some 'bamas butts.

Doc44

No. She won't. That's just the shiat she shovels to the bottom feeders who send her money and hang on every platitude she says.

Even she realizes that she is a talentless hack. She has no new ideas to bring to the table or she would have brought them already. She doesn't have even a basic understanding of what's going on in American politics/the economy. That's why all of her non-scripted speeches involve something along the lines of: "We need to take our country back from the failed socialist policies of the Marxist Obama. He's ruining everything and hasn't done anything. Because Jesus, the Constitution, 9/11." That's all she's got. She can't explain why the US is the way it is right now. Or how to fix it. This is a woman who believes that "What newspapers do you read" is a "gotcha" question.

Cream Soda Kid
04-11-2012, 09:31
I would like to see a bunch of you whiners go through the grinder she went through. Instead of coming out looking like Sarah Palin all of you would look like Nancy Pelosi.
Yes indeed!

whoflungdo
04-11-2012, 09:39
No. She won't. That's just the shiat she shovels to the bottom feeders who send her money and hang on every platitude she says.

Even she realizes that she is a talentless hack. She has no new ideas to bring to the table or she would have brought them already. She doesn't have even a basic understanding of what's going on in American politics/the economy. That's why all of her non-scripted speeches involve something along the lines of: "We need to take our country back from the failed socialist policies of the Marxist Obama. He's ruining everything and hasn't done anything. Because Jesus, the Constitution, 9/11." That's all she's got. She can't explain why the US is the way it is right now. Or how to fix it. This is a woman who believes that "What newspapers do you read" is a "gotcha" question.


Really now? I think you need to look up the word projection...

Walt_NC
04-11-2012, 09:45
Double post/ edit was to de-nastify the original response

Walt_NC
04-11-2012, 09:48
Really? The best response you have is "Yeah, well I'm rubber you're glue"?

whoflungdo
04-11-2012, 09:48
Sure. And you look up "white knight complex". She wont sleep with you, no matter how much you stick up for her.

Or you could rub two brain cells together and address some of the statements I made rather than taking the easy way out.

Sure thing. After you stop making assumptions about me, I'll be glad to.. You have way to much anger, contempt, and emotion against this woman to be able to debate this issue politely.

Have a nice day Walt..:wavey:

Walt_NC
04-11-2012, 09:57
Sure thing. After you stop making assumptions about me, I'll be glad to.. You have way to much anger, contempt, and emotion against this woman to be able to debate this issue politely.

Have a nice day Walt..:wavey:

I have no anger towards her, nor contempt. She's a non-issue. She's not qualified to be the principal of a home-school. She simply doesn't matter. My contempt you mention is more of feeling of sad dismay to those who still think she is relevant, or those who think she will swoop in and save the GOP in the upcoming elections.

... You're one of the aforementioned guys that gave her money, aren't you?

Gundude
04-11-2012, 10:14
Keep in mind my intelligence level is NOT determined by whether or not
I agree with you.

We disagree and I think you're a smart person, but you think I'm a fool.
I wonder what the difference is?

I predicted Sarah Palin would NOT run for president when all the rest
of you were slobbering all over her.

Maybe I'm not so ignorant after all!

..You also predicted Rick Perry would be our next President, hence the inconsistency... :tongueout:

In all seriousness though, I gotta agree with juggy. You've set yourself apart from some of the cardboard cutouts who pretend to debate here, with their monolithic belief systems so inflexible that you know exactly what their post will contain before you read the first word.

However wrong some of your opinions are (:supergrin:), at least it's apparent they're your opinions, to which some critical thought has been addressed, and not just the echo of some TV talking head or some Internet wacko with a blog.

whoflungdo
04-11-2012, 10:17
I have no anger towards her, nor contempt. She's a non-issue. She's not qualified to be the principal of a home-school. She simply doesn't matter. My contempt you mention is more of feeling of sad dismay to those who still think she is relevant, or those who think she will swoop in and save the GOP in the upcoming elections.

... You're one of the aforementioned guys that gave her money, aren't you?

No. Another incorrect assumption on your part. I still wanna know how you can claim "Even she realizes that she is a talentless hack". Please enlighten us how she realizes this, where's she said this, some sort of cite somewhere.. Anything to back up your assertion..

JBnTX
04-11-2012, 10:27
You also predicted Rick Perry would be our next President, hence the inconsistency... :tongueout:
.


No, I was wrong on Rick Perry, not inconsistent.
There's a difference, learn it.

My political views have been more than consistent all along.
I've been wrong a few times, but the general theme is intact.

I'm a conservative republican that fully intends to support the republican nominee.

That puts a burr under some people's saddles who also claim to be conservative,
but notice how those "imposters" refuse to support the republican party and consistently bad mouth the republican candidates.

Also, notice how they never criticize Obama or the democrats.
They've even stated they intend to vote for Barack Obama,
if Ron Paul isn't the republican nominee.

How conservative can that be?

..

Vic777
04-11-2012, 10:40
Many here were predicting she would be in the running and have no problem defeating President Obama. So what happened??It would be nice to know. I don't think it was money, I think she could have raised enough. But she knows there has to be change in all Government from Town councils to the White House, she seems to be focusing in that area. She seems to be an honest person trying to effect real change in order to save America.

Vic777
04-11-2012, 10:42
Going on the network TV shows and repeating what she's been told to say
over and over won't accomplish much.
Who has ever told Sarah Palin what to say? Sarah's appeal has always been that she's the "Real Deal".

JBnTX
04-11-2012, 10:51
Who has ever told Sarah Palin what to say? Sarah's appeal has always been that she's the "Real Deal".


She reads speeches from a script written for her.

That explains why she can't answer questions about what she's said
without screwing it up.

She had to write notes on her hand in order to remember what to talk about.
She even screwed that up.

Gundude
04-11-2012, 10:52
No, I was wrong on Rick Perry, not inconsistent.
There's a difference, learn it.

My political views have been more than consistent all along.
I've been wrong a few times, but the general theme is intact.

I'm a conservative republican that fully intends to support the republican nominee.

That puts a burr under some people's saddles who also claim to be conservative,
but notice how those "imposters" refuse to support the republican party and consistently bad mouth the republican candidates.

They've even stated they intend to vote for Barack Obama.
How conservative can that be?The Rick Perry jab was a joke, nothing more, hence this: :tongueout:

I've stated I intend to vote for Barack Obama, so that "they" includes me, so I'll respond for "them" (but technically only for myself):

The only way I'm conservative is that I believe the government should adhere to the rules it was set up under. "Conservative" in that "that's the way it was set up, that's how it should stay, and changes should only be made through the process they were designed to be made". Also conservative in that I don't think the government should spend more than it has.

That's all. Republicans aren't conservative in that way but are conservative in a "let me tell you who you should and shouldn't have sex with" kind of way. That's repulsive to me.

Since Republicans aren't conservative in a "good" way, and are conservative in a "bad" way, the Democrats are preferable to them, since they aren't conservative in any way.

Let me be clear, I despise Obama. But he is the lesser of two evils in this case. I never used to vote lesser of two evils, but I have the additional motivation this election to help Romney lose in an embarrassingly big way, so that maybe the next Republican will be conservative in a "good" way.

callihan_44
04-11-2012, 11:02
I have no anger towards her, nor contempt. She's a non-issue. She's not qualified to be the principal of a home-school. She simply doesn't matter. My contempt you mention is more of feeling of sad dismay to those who still think she is relevant, or those who think she will swoop in and save the GOP in the upcoming elections.

... You're one of the aforementioned guys that gave her money, aren't you?

so the community organizer that is wreaking havoc on our country is doing a fine job to you? I think she has a better chance of turning things around than the morons currently residing in the whitehouse....get a ******ing clue

MoneyMaker
04-11-2012, 11:28
heard she is dancing topless for chicken wings

RC-RAMIE
04-11-2012, 11:36
so the community organizer that is wreaking havoc on our country is doing a fine job to you? I think she has a better chance of turning things around than the morons currently residing in the whitehouse....get a ******ing clue

This slightly better than Obama way of picking people to vote for is stupid get a ******ing clue.

Cavalry Doc
04-11-2012, 11:49
heard she is dancing topless for chicken wings

Just like school on a Saturday....

whoflungdo
04-11-2012, 12:11
Just like school on a Saturday....


You probably will have to explain that one to MM...:whistling:

JBnTX
04-11-2012, 12:15
heard she is dancing topless for chicken wings

No, it's she looks like two chicken wings when she dances.

certifiedfunds
04-11-2012, 12:27
No, I was wrong on Rick Perry, not inconsistent.
There's a difference, learn it.

My political views have been more than consistent all along.
I've been wrong a few times, but the general theme is intact.

I'm a conservative republican that fully intends to support the republican nominee.

That puts a burr under some people's saddles who also claim to be conservative,
but notice how those "imposters" refuse to support the republican party and consistently bad mouth the republican candidates.

Also, notice how they never criticize Obama or the democrats.
They've even stated they intend to vote for Barack Obama,
if Ron Paul isn't the republican nominee.

How conservative can that be?

..

No, you aren't a conservative. You might have a very few conservative positions, but you aren't conservative. Being a conservative and a republican are two differnt things.

Conservatives support the Bill of Rights. You don't.

callihan_44
04-11-2012, 13:14
This slightly better than Obama way of picking people to vote for is stupid get a ******ing clue.

slighty? she isnt even running who the **** else are you going to vote for? paul? he cant WIN ! U get the ****ing clue

RC-RAMIE
04-11-2012, 13:24
slighty? she isnt even running who the **** else are you going to vote for? paul? he cant WIN ! U get the ****ing clue

He can't win because some conservatives ^ will vote for non conservative Republicans because the suck but they are ABO.

JBnTX
04-11-2012, 13:31
No, you aren't a conservative. You might have a very few conservative positions, but you aren't conservative. Being a conservative and a republican are two differnt things.

Conservatives support the Bill of Rights. You don't.



How do know you what I support and what I don't?
I have no problem with the bill of rights.

I've never stated I did.

You might take a previous post and twist its wording in order to imply
that I don't, but you'd be wrong.

callihan_44
04-11-2012, 13:33
He can't win because some conservatives ^ will vote for non conservative Republicans because the suck but they are ABO.


I WOULD vote for him, but you have to be realistic...IT AINT HAPPENING

certifiedfunds
04-11-2012, 13:35
How do know you what I support and what I don't?
I have no problem with the bill of rights.

I've never stated I did.

I read your posts. Do you lie in your posts? Are you simply a troll?

Tell me how you feel about the 9th and 10th Amendments of the Bill of Rights, bedrocks of the Constitutional Republic.

DOC44
04-11-2012, 13:37
heard she is dancing topless for chicken wings

No, it's she looks like two chicken wings when she dances.

Didn't know they were serving Georgia rattlesnakes at chicken wing places... other wise you boys wouldn't be there to know about it.

Doc44

JBnTX
04-11-2012, 13:50
I read your posts. Do you lie in your posts? Are you simply a troll?

Tell me how you feel about the 9th and 10th Amendments of the Bill of Rights, bedrocks of the Constitutional Republic.

I have no problem with either amendment, but they're not written in stone and were never meant to be an impediment to the progress of this country or the welfare of it's people.

Sure, our government has ventured into areas where it has no business, like welfare, social security and now healthcare. The reality is that we are in those areas and it's going to take a lot to get the government out.

The government needs to get out of those areas and follow the 9th and 10th amendments.

Where you and I differ is on how to get out of those areas and roll back the government's power and violations of those two amendments.

I think the correction needs to be slow and careful, so as not to disrupt the lives of American citizens.

You on the other hand would stop all social security, all welfare and all government entitlement programs immediately and completely. This would do more harm than good.

That's the same reason I refuse to support Ron Paul. His strict constitutional policies would hurt this country far more than they would help.

Support of the constitution isn't all or nothing as you make it out to be.
Just because I disagree on how to correct the problem, doesn't mean I don't support the constitution.

SouthpawShooter
04-11-2012, 14:07
The problem with Palin, is that she ONLY appeals to far right conservatives. She has a polarizing effect on most people, and moderates (who decide elections, BTW) don't care much for her, and obviously those on the left HATE her.

Unfortunately, appearances play a huge role in elections. Even though she's a good looking woman, she has a speaking style that doesn't sound "official", or "professional" or "presidential". She sounds too folksy, soccer-mom-like, and that just doesn't cut it on the national scale.

Take a look at BHO. He basically won the election by being a good public speaker. The average idiot who listened to him speak had no idea what the hell he was talking about, but they sure thought he sounded good! It's also a big reason why Romney is ahead. He's tall, handsome, and has good hair. If Ron Paul, or Newt Gingrich looked like Michael Douglas, or Robert Redford, they'd probably be the nominee. You can damn well bet a sizable percentage of women will vote for the most handsome candidate, policies be damned. Other than fraud, why do you think Nixon lost in 1960?

If Palin wants to help this election, she should go sweet talk far right conservative groups into supporting whoever the GOP nominee is. She will turn off moderates, and especially those who lean left, but disapprove of Obama's performance and are looking elsewhere. So, by hanging back from the mainstream media, she's actually doing us (and by US, I mean those who want to see 0bama GONE) a huge favor.

JBnTX
04-11-2012, 14:20
The problem with Palin, is that she ONLY appeals to far right conservatives. She has a polarizing effect on most people, and moderates (who decide elections, BTW) don't care much for her, and obviously those on the left HATE her.

Unfortunately, appearances play a huge role in elections. Even though she's a good looking woman, she has a speaking style that doesn't sound "official", or "professional" or "presidential". She sounds too folksy, soccer-mom-like, and that just doesn't cut it on the national scale.

Take a look at BHO. He basically won the election by being a good public speaker. The average idiot who listened to him speak had no idea what the hell he was talking about, but they sure thought he sounded good! It's also a big reason why Romney is ahead. He's tall, handsome, and has good hair. If Ron Paul, or Newt Gingrich looked like Michael Douglas, or Robert Redford, they'd probably be the nominee. You can damn well bet a sizable percentage of women will vote for the most handsome candidate, policies be damned. Other than fraud, why do you think Nixon lost in 1960?

If Palin wants to help this election, she should go sweet talk far right conservative groups into supporting whoever the GOP nominee is. She will turn off moderates, and especially those who lean left, but disapprove of Obama's performance and are looking elsewhere. So, by hanging back from the mainstream media, she's actually doing us (and by US, I mean those who want to see 0bama GONE) a huge favor.


Well Said! :thumbsup:

Most of it anyway.

certifiedfunds
04-11-2012, 14:52
I have no problem with either amendment, but they're not written in stone and were never meant to be an impediment to the progress of this country or the welfare of it's people.

Sure, our government has ventured into areas where it has no business, like welfare, social security and now healthcare. The reality is that we are in those areas and it's going to take a lot to get the government out.

The government needs to get out of those areas and follow the 9th and 10th amendments.



Yet another stellar example of you contradicting yourself in the same post.

You've stated here on a number of occasions that "you can't just have states governing themselves " ala 10th amendment. You've stated that you don't support the 10th amendment.

The mere fact that you say here that the 9th and 10th could IN ANY WAY impede the "progress" of the U.S. is proof positive of your Progressive views. Have you now changed your opinion on the 9th and 10th? It sure sounds like it.

You realize, of course, that what you say about the 9th and 10th "impeding America's progress" could very easily be said about the 2nd Amendment, 1st Amendment, 5th Amendment or any amendments in the BOR.

The BOR is the cornerstone of what makes the U.S. unique. That portion of the COTUS SHOULD be written in stone. Government didn't give them to us, government can't take them away.

Where you and I differ is on how to get out of those areas and roll back the government's power and violations of those two amendments.



You've said repeatedly that you don't support the 9th and 10th. And now you want them followed. Moronic stuff like this is why people here make fun of you repeatedly.

I think the correction needs to be slow and careful, so as not to disrupt the lives of American citizens.



Slow won't avoid the collapse.

If the government handed out crack cocaine to its citizens and created a culture of dependency, would you think the government should take its sweet time correcting that?

The welfare state for the elderly is no different.

When someone robs a bank, you stop him NOW. You don't tolerate theft because you don't want to upset people.

You on the other hand would stop all social security, all welfare and all government entitlement programs immediately and completely. This would do more harm than good.



I don't know how you can say that because it would do a hell of a lot of good......like save the Republic. Your way won't. The iceberg is dead ahead. A slight correction in course still means a sunken ship.

That's the same reason I refuse to support Ron Paul. His strict constitutional policies would hurt this country far more than they would help.



That's what makes you a liberal progressive. :rofl:The fact that you think that following the Constitution would harm the country.

yet another contradiction in the same post. First you want the 9th and 10th followed, now you don't.

Support of the constitution isn't all or nothing as you make it out to be.


Uh, yes it is.

Just because I disagree on how to correct the problem, doesn't mean I don't support the constitution.

That isn't the issue with you not supporting the Constitution.

This is -------> Support of the constitution isn't all or nothing as you make it out to be.


You're a flaming progressive. Just admit it and join the others.

brickboy240
04-11-2012, 14:59
If moderates decide elections...why then didn't Dole and McCain run away with it? Why has Romney never gotten more than 30% in most polls?

Also, why didn't we see thousands of moderates gathering en masse at rallies before the mid term elections and pushing for the results we saw in 2010? Sorry...not buying that garbage about moderates being a huge political force. That just does not pass the smell test.

Palin (of whom I am not really a fan) is a polarizing figure, but mostly because big media turned her in to one.

That said...I don't care where she is. Even if she does pop up and start cheerleading for Mittens...who cares? The GOP is once again throwing the Presidential race.

- brickboy240

RC-RAMIE
04-11-2012, 15:40
I have no problem with either amendment, but they're not written in stone and were never meant to be an impediment to the progress of this country or the welfare of it's people.

Sure, our government has ventured into areas where it has no business, like welfare, social security and now healthcare. The reality is that we are in those areas and it's going to take a lot to get the government out.

The government needs to get out of those areas and follow the 9th and 10th amendments.

Where you and I differ is on how to get out of those areas and roll back the government's power and violations of those two amendments.

I think the correction needs to be slow and careful, so as not to disrupt the lives of American citizens.

You on the other hand would stop all social security, all welfare and all government entitlement programs immediately and completely. This would do more harm than good.

That's the same reason I refuse to support Ron Paul. His strict constitutional policies would hurt this country far more than they would help.

Support of the constitution isn't all or nothing as you make it out to be.
Just because I disagree on how to correct the problem, doesn't mean I don't support the constitution.

I told you this so many times and provide links to his plan numerous times he does NOT want to just cut off everything his plan phases out the problems.

Cavalry Doc
04-11-2012, 17:40
He can't win because some conservatives ^ will vote for non conservative Republicans because the suck but they are ABO.

Sucks huh? It is what it is. Plan for it.

Cavalry Doc
04-11-2012, 17:42
Palin seems like a genuinely nice person with a good heart. Those kinds of people rarely do well in politics. She did pretty well anyway. Anyone else in the thread been a Governor of any state?

I wish her well, and would be happy to see her get the RNC Chair.

Cavalry Doc
04-11-2012, 17:43
Argh. Double tapped again.

DOC44
04-11-2012, 17:53
Argh. Double tapped again.

and one to the head.

Doc44

FLIPPER 348
04-11-2012, 19:28
The problem with Palin, is that she ONLY appeals to far right conservatives.


Finally some sanity in this thread.


However I don't see any comments from the now quiet 'Palin 2012' crowd. Heck, a few of them had it as their avatar.

juggy4711
04-11-2012, 21:20
Keep in mind my intelligence level is NOT determined by whether or not I agree with you.

We disagree and I think you're a smart person, but you think I'm a fool. I wonder what the difference is?

I predicted Sarah Palin would NOT run for president when all the rest of you were slobbering all over her.

Maybe I'm not so ignorant after all!

...In all seriousness though, I gotta agree with juggy. You've set yourself apart from some of the cardboard cutouts who pretend to debate here, with their monolithic belief systems so inflexible that you know exactly what their post will contain before you read the first word.

However wrong some of your opinions are (:supergrin:), at least it's apparent they're your opinions, to which some critical thought has been addressed, and not just the echo of some TV talking head or some Internet wacko with a blog.

Gundude got it but maybe I wasn't eloquent enough. I was trying to pay you a compliment. Sorry for the fail. I don't think you're a fool but misguided and confused. And for the record I have never slobbered over Sarah Palin.

The problem with Palin, is that she ONLY appeals to far right conservatives...

Finally some sanity in this thread...

WTF. Her support of McCain appealed to far right conservatives? Could of fooled me.

certifiedfunds
04-11-2012, 21:21
Sarah is a nice lady but she's a bit liberal. Too much neocon.

juggy4711
04-11-2012, 21:40
Sarah is a nice lady but she's a bit liberal. Too much neocon.

This. How the heck she convinced anyone she was anything else is far beyond me. Again that said I do not begrudge her any of the money she makes from her fame.

Big Mad Dawg
04-11-2012, 23:41
I supported her and would support anyone that wants to move the government to a more conservative point. I am tired of the PC bleeding heart white guilt give the money to the welfare bums crowd. I would with a clear conscience cut the money to all social programs in a minuet if possible why should I or anyone else be forced to support the lazy dirt bags of the world or in our country?

juggy4711
04-11-2012, 23:50
I supported her and would support anyone that wants to move the government to a more conservative point. I am tired of the PC bleeding heart white guilt give the money to the welfare bums crowd. I would with a clear conscience cut the money to all social programs in a minuet if possible why should I or anyone else be forced to support the lazy dirt bags of the world or in our country?

Supporting her would not accomplish that. She backed McCain for re-election to the Senate. She's a big government Republican or in other words not actually conservative.

Big Mad Dawg
04-12-2012, 00:00
Hungers the original motivator get a job work hard eat what you want.
If you know you and your spawn will suffer unless your baby daddy stays and works you will be selective on who climbs on for a night of fun its nature’s way of weeding out the dead beats from the gene pool.

Big Mad Dawg
04-12-2012, 00:06
Supporting her would not accomplish that. She backed McCain for re-election to the Senate. She's a big government Republican or in other words not actually conservative.

She is (anyone would be) right of the slug in the White house now. Do I think she is God gift no but she is better than what are our options now or then. I voted for McCain holding my nose and crying.

juggy4711
04-12-2012, 00:20
She is (anyone would be) right of the slug in the White house now. Do I think she is God gift no but she is better than what are our options now or then. I voted for McCain holding my nose and crying.

This is why we fail.

Big Mad Dawg
04-12-2012, 01:37
This is why we fail.

We fail because we don’t have the fortitude to stand for what is right. We shy away from the load mouth liberals when they start screeching that it is mean to the babies if we support hard line conservative ideals. Will I support the better of the two options? Yes I do. But I truly want a leader that will come and set a constitutional conservative administration. I want states rights, government out of the business of all social programs and to cut the government to the bone and back doing only what they are meant to be doing.

juggy4711
04-12-2012, 21:37
We fail because we don’t have the fortitude to stand for what is right. We shy away from the load mouth liberals when they start screeching that it is mean to the babies if we support hard line conservative ideals. Will I support the better of the two options? Yes I do. But I truly want a leader that will come and set a constitutional conservative administration. I want states rights, government out of the business of all social programs and to cut the government to the bone and back doing only what they are meant to be doing.

You won't get any of that voting for folks like Sarah Palin. Your willingness to compromise your vote is exactly what you're complaining about in the first part of this post.