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9mmParabellum
04-15-2012, 17:35
As far as I know the best results in shooting with a 9mm have been with bullets weights 115-127gr.

Anyone know of results with 135 and 147gr?

cowboy1964
04-15-2012, 18:39
Not with 135gr, those are pretty rare, but Ayoob has commented many times that he knows of PDs that use 147's with excellent results. He still prefers fast mid-weights though, as do I.

Quarter Tank
04-15-2012, 19:24
I use 147 HST and GDs in my G19. Love the heavier weight. Great penetration and expansion.

Merkavaboy
04-15-2012, 20:00
Not with 135gr, those are pretty rare, but Ayoob has commented many times that he knows of PDs that use 147's with excellent results. He still prefers fast mid-weights though, as do I.

This statement should be clarified: MODERN 147's have been working well. The 1st Gen 147's were poor performers (this still includes the current Win USA 147JHP which hasn't changed since its introduction in the late 80's).

Clay1
04-15-2012, 20:37
If you haven't seen this you might enjoy this information. http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm#9mm

Currently shooting 124 Gr pdx1 as ammo of choice, but HST, GOLD DOT OR WIN RANGER T SERIES would all do just fine, not to mention DPX from Cor bon an all solid.

Make a decision on ammo type, the buy a bunch of it and be happy.

bac1023
04-15-2012, 20:49
I've always liked 115 the best.

HCRoadie
04-16-2012, 21:00
There have been such huge advances made in bullet design over the past few years that a 115gr is as reliable a man stopper as the 127 and MYBE the 147. I have never done any shooting or testing with the 147. Is the recoil noticeably different than a 115? At that point why not step up to the .40S&W or .$
45ACP?

barth
04-16-2012, 21:19
The light fast vs slow heavy debate has gone on for years.
And continues today.

There is one thing that's certain.
Even before high tech bullets, and fast burn low flash gunpowder,
the 125 grain 1450 fps 357 Magnum was, and still is, a top performer.

So in 9mm 124/127 +P/+P+ at 1220/1250 fps gets my vote for the best.

But what's in my EDC?
Wait for it.
125 gr 1375 fps Speer LE Duty GDHP 357 Sig
http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/238455/9461119/acfc848.jpg

WoodenPlank
04-16-2012, 23:34
The light fast vs slow heavy debate has gone on for years.
And continues today.

There is one thing is for sure.
Even before high tech bullets, and fast burn low flash gunpowder,
the 125 grain 1450 fps 357 Magnum was, and still is, a top performer.

So in 9mm 124/127 +P/+P+ at 1220/1250 fps gets my vote for the best.

But what's in my EDC?
Wait for it.
125 gr 1375 fps Speer LE Duty GDHP 357 Sig
http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/238455/9461119/acfc848.jpg

I load Ranger T instead of Gold Dot (was able to get my hands on more Ranger at the time), but otherwise completely agreed.

barth
04-17-2012, 01:22
I load Ranger T instead of Gold Dot (was able to get my hands on more Ranger at the time), but otherwise completely agreed.

Complete Disclosure;
I actually lied.
Truth is just shot up my last 4 boxes of GDHP Duty last week.
Just put another 100 rounds on order.
I'll have to survive with my backup choice till Friday.
1 G33 and two G31 mags filled with
1350 fps 125 gr Winchester Ranger T-Series - LOL!
I keep vacillating between GDHP and Ranger T in my SD guns.

I think I'm losing about 25 fps with the porting on my 4.16" Storm Lake barrel.
So the GDHP LE 54234 1,375 fps should put me back at 1350 - I hope.
https://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo42/84/49/76be54141bc0__1333897030000.jpeghttps://www.t-mobilepictures.com/myalbum/photos/photo36/75/e7/023e438368d9__1320531336000.jpg

UPDATE:
Got two boxs of GDHP yesterday.
Will blow up targets at lunch with one box.
Load most of the second 50x box in my G33 and twin G31 mags (40 rounds)
for carry.

cowboy1964
04-17-2012, 08:51
I have never done any shooting or testing with the 147. Is the recoil noticeably different than a 115? At that point why not step up to the .40S&W or .$
45ACP?

147s are noticeably softer shooting than the lighter 9's. There are practical reasons I stick with 124s though, regardless of performance (commercial 147 ammo is difficult to find/expensive and 147 bullets for reloading just plain cost more than 124s).

unit1069
04-17-2012, 11:23
I often fluctuate between 115- and 124-grain 9mm, either standard pressure, +P, or +P+ in both bonded and non-bonded ammo (as a result of having so many good 9mm self-defense ammo choices).

Lately in .357sig I have preferred 147-grain because the recoil is milder. And if 147-grain is such a great performer in 9mm what's not to like in that bullet weight traveling 250-300 fps faster?

Kentguy
04-19-2012, 15:51
9mmParabellum,

With my first 9mm I bought (some years ago now), I only bought and fired 115g bullets. Of recent years, I have purchased 3 Glock 9mms. I have since changed to 124g bullets exclusively. I do reload my own for target and competition use. There is a ton of load data for the 124g bullet, which makes for a pleasant to shoot, bu tvery accurate round.

Now forCCW use, I have tried several different brands however I still stay with the124g bullet. Some of the better ones are Speer Gold Dot, Winchester PDX1, Hornady FTX - All give you good penetration with excellent to good expansion.

That is my9mm bullet weight experience.

9mm +p+
04-19-2012, 17:36
147s are noticeably softer shooting than the lighter 9's.

There is a reason for that, physics is not based on bias, it's based on fact. The fact is 147's are less powerful than lighter faster 9 loads, period. If you want a 38 special equivelent, run those 147's, if want lower end 357 run a mid weight +P/+P+. Or for that matter 9BPLE is still a very effective load.

DocKWL
04-20-2012, 02:09
There is a reason for that, physics is not based on bias, it's based on fact. The fact is 147's are less powerful than lighter faster 9 loads, period. If you want a 38 special equivelent, run those 147's, if want lower end 357 run a mid weight +P/+P+. Or for that matter 9BPLE is still a very effective load.

physics is not based on bias, it's based on fact. The fact is 147's are less powerful than lighter faster 9 loads, period.

Irony. It may be worth your while to dust off your elementary physics book.

9mmParabellum
04-20-2012, 06:11
There is a reason for that, physics is not based on bias, it's based on fact. The fact is 147's are less powerful than lighter faster 9 loads, period. If you want a 38 special equivelent, run those 147's, if want lower end 357 run a mid weight +P/+P+. Or for that matter 9BPLE is still a very effective load.

I agree the 9BPLE may be old tech but has a street record of putting people down and giving dirt naps and at the price and 50rd boxes you cannot beat it.