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snerd
04-19-2012, 10:24
Conservatives across the nation should be of good cheer, however. The United States remains a center-right nation. This November, voters will choose common sense over fiscally reckless extremism in what will be a landslide conservative victory. Republicans will retain the House, gain the Senate and win back the presidency with a 2-to-1 Electoral College margin.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/18/the-coming-conservative-landslide/#ixzz1sVJOZZCy
I'll have to go back and look for the post where I was called delusional for predicting a landslide in November. I still have no hesitation to predict it.

evlbruce
04-19-2012, 10:40
My question is: Given the cold shoulder the Republican Party gave the Tea Party, what impetus is there for the Tea Party to continue to elect Republicans?

mj9mm
04-19-2012, 10:45
i'm one of the meek, still waiting to inherit the earth:wavey:

aspartz
04-19-2012, 11:04
My question is: Given the cold shoulder the Republican Party gave the Tea Party, what impetus is there for the Tea Party to continue to elect Republicans?
The GOP does not need us in the the Tea Party, the GOP has God on their side.

ARS

Restless28
04-19-2012, 11:14
I wouldn't be so sure about a landslide. After listening to Mark Levin last night, I am furious and disgusted at the same time with Mitch McConnel and Boners' war on the freshman tea party conservatives. Eric Cantor, John McCain, Dick Lugar, etc are establishment republicans who are almost as much of an enemy as the left.

We may have to live with a liberal republican as president, but the danger is greater in the house and senate. All of this stuff we argue about is cover for the deceit and treachery in congress.

Brucev
04-19-2012, 11:15
My question is: Given the cold shoulder the Republican Party gave the Tea Party, what impetus is there for the Tea Party to continue to elect Republicans?

Simple. They have no where else to go. And why should they? The TP has had a net positive influence on the Republican Party especially at the local and state level. This bodes well for the future. In the near term, the Nov. 2012 election will be a choice between voting for a domestic terrorist and voting for a Republican. Wise men will vote Republican... both for the executive and legislative candidates. Why? Because Conservatives in the house and senate can and will name the tune to which the executive will have to dance. With a Republican in the white house, the result will be a waltz rather than a exercise in slam dancing.

aspartz
04-19-2012, 11:23
Simple. They have no where else to go. And why should they?
They do have other choices and WILL. The Tea party wanted a strong fiscal conservative who would put smaller government first. Obama may not fit this bill, but neither does Mitt. They wanted a candidate who would not inject religion and morals into the legal system. Obama DOES fit this, where Mitt does not. The Libertarian party matches both.

The TP has had a net positive influence on the Republican Party especially at the local and state level.Maybe it did, but then Palin and Bachman proclaimed themselves as the leaders an the Tea Party became the same Party of God that chased us away in the first place.

Wise men will vote Republican... both for the executive and legislative candidates. Why? Because Conservatives in the house and senate can and will name the tune to which the executive will have to dance. With a Republican in the white house, the result will be a waltz rather than a exercise in slam dancing.That depends on what you call "conservative." I'm a wise man, but I won't vote for anther compassionate conservative like GWB again.

ARS

aircarver
04-19-2012, 12:02
We have to take back the Republican Party...

Perot showed us the folly of dividing the anti-communist vote.

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DonGlock26
04-19-2012, 12:21
Obama is going to be crushed. We still have a summer of Obamanomics ahead of us.


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snerd
04-19-2012, 12:36
Obama is going to be crushed. We still have a summer of Obamanomics ahead of us.
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....... not to mention more months of black racism that even the white-guilters are getting tired of.

JBnTX
04-19-2012, 12:53
I'll have to go back and look for the post where I was called delusional for predicting a landslide in November. I still have no hesitation to predict it.

I too was called delusional (and other unsavory names) for predicting Obama would lose by a landslide to the republican candidate.

The American people are fed up with Obama and his big government policies, and in November they'll correct their mistakes they made in 2008.

All the libertarian haters of the republican party are going to lose once again when they're proven wrong.

Never under estimate the American people.

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Bren
04-19-2012, 12:55
I'll have to go back and look for the post where I was called delusional for predicting a landslide in November. I still have no hesitation to predict it.

You and Leahy are still delusional. Look at all the nuts here who are going to vote for Obama just to be spiteful because they don't agree with Romney as a Republican candidate (assuming he is the one).

There won't even be a conservative victory, much less a "landslide."

snerd
04-19-2012, 13:01
....... There won't even be a conservative victory, much less a "ladslide."
What is that? Some kind of entertainment in Barney Frank's backyard? :whistling:

snerd
04-19-2012, 13:03
I too was called delusional.......
Egads! We have something in common? That could really hurt a fella's reputation around here! :tongueout:

JBnTX
04-19-2012, 13:08
Egads! We have something in common? That could really hurt a fella's reputation around here! :tongueout:


Don't get your hopes up.
It doesn't mean we're going to be taking warm showers together.

:shame:

snerd
04-19-2012, 13:13
Don't get your hopes up.
It doesn't mean we're going to be taking warm showers together.

:shame:

http://polls.amctv.com/img/data/3136-309x316.jpg

chickenwing
04-19-2012, 13:24
I too was called delusional (and other unsavory names) for predicting Obama would lose by a landslide to the republican candidate.

The American people are fed up with Obama and his big government policies, and in November they'll correct their mistakes they made in 2008.

All the libertarian haters of the republican party are going to lose once again when they're proven wrong.

You are confused definitely.

The American people are so fed up with a big-government democrat they are going to vote for a big-government republican. :rofl: Yeah that will teach those socialist!

It the same mistake all over, and it has nothing to do with RP or libertarians.

The problem with the GOP is not as simple as libertarians are wrong. In fact I think most libertarians and Austrian school economist predicted the problems America now faces. In Ron's case at least since the 80's.

Going to left is what the GOP has to do to even compete with the left, since so called republicans like yourself think there is a difference between a republican liberal and a democrat liberal on economic issues, government intervention, and foreign policy. Not much difference there between Mitt and Barry when taken in that context.

You cant compete with the left that way, but you can't win an election by promising to cut government significantly. It's not going to happen and doesn't fly with voters on either side. It's the control of that government power people like you are worried about, not cutting it.

lancesorbenson
04-19-2012, 13:39
You are confused definitely.

The American people are so fed up with a big-government democrat they are going to vote for a big-government republican. :rofl: Yeah that will teach those socialist!

It the same mistake all over, and it has nothing to do with RP or libertarians.

The problem with the GOP is not as simple as libertarians are wrong. In fact I think most libertarians and Austrian school economist predicted the problems America now faces. In Ron's case at least since the 80's.

Going to left is what the GOP has to do to even compete with the left, since so called republicans like yourself think there is a difference between a republican liberal and a democrat liberal on economic issues, government intervention, and foreign policy. Not much difference there between Mitt and Barry when taken in that context.

You cant compete with the left that way, but you can't win an election by promising to cut government significantly. It's not going to happen and doesn't fly with voters on either side. It's the control of that government power people like you are worried about, not cutting it.

A Romney landslide would hardly be a conservative landslide.

JBnTX
04-19-2012, 13:51
A Romney landslide would hardly be a conservative landslide.


According to who?

A bunch of pissed off sore losers, mad at the republican party for not bending over for Ron Paul?

A very small group of selfish, anarchist, government hating, elitist jerks who think they're better than everyone else?

Today's republican party isn't perfect, not by a long shot, but it's far better than Ron Paul and Obama put together.

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chickenwing
04-19-2012, 13:54
According to who?

A bunch of pissed off sore losers, mad at the republican party for not bending over for Ron Paul?

A very small group of selfish anarchist, government hating, elitist jerks who think they're better than everyone else?

Today's republican party isn't perfect, not by a long shot, but it's far better than Ron Paul and Obama put together.

..

:rofl::rofl: Who's the butt-hurt one who trolls RP threads?

JBnTX
04-19-2012, 13:59
:rofl::rofl: Who's the butt-hurt one who trolls RP threads?


Obviously something about a "conservative landslide" doesn't set
well with you?

Confession is good for the soul, and we're listening.

windplex
04-19-2012, 14:02
what if romney gets ryan for vp? does that trip any triggers among TEA party folks?

curious how others feel aobut it.

id like to see it. then later ryan run and have Walker Gov WI as vp and repeat. thats my bias/dream

chickenwing
04-19-2012, 14:20
Obviously something about a "conservative landslide" doesn't set
well with you?

Confession is good for the soul, and we're listening.

Depends on who think is conservative.

Guys like Rick and Mitt, Big-government social conservatives and big-government liberal republicans, no thanks.


How about you confess that you are just a really confused troll with an axe to grind.

We already know but are listening anyway.

Stubudd
04-19-2012, 14:35
If they nominated romney and he won, how could that be a conservative landslide? Seems like the opposite to me. A progressive landslide- they have both candidates, they can't lose- it's a progressive avalanche, or whatever is worse than a landslide. They're winning so huge the only competition left is themselves.

I'll believe it when i see it anyway. I think obama will probably roll this goofball.

evlbruce
04-19-2012, 14:36
what if romney gets ryan for vp? does that trip any triggers among TEA party folks?

Veeps don't matter.

JBnTX
04-19-2012, 14:41
Guys like Rick and Mitt, Big-government social conservatives and big-government liberal republicans, no thanks.




Let me get this straight, Your two choices are:

#1) "Guys like Rick and Mitt, Big-government social conservatives and big-government liberal republicans"

#2) An America hating, socialist, marxist, racist incumbent.

And you're NOT voting for #1?
Is that correct?

chickenwing
04-19-2012, 14:43
Let me get this straight, Your two choices are:

#1) "Guys like Rick and Mitt, Big-government social conservatives and big-government liberal republicans"

#2) An America hating, socialist, marxist, racist incumbent.

And you're NOT voting for #1?
Is that correct?

None of the above.

JBnTX
04-19-2012, 14:52
None of the above.


If you don't vote, then how do you ever expect to change anything?

Withholding your vote as punishment is an impotent way of getting your message across. No one will ever know, or even care that you didn't vote.

Withholding your vote on principle is an equally ineffective way to communicate
your displeasure with your choices.

You are in effect putting your own personal desires ahead of what's good for the country.

Right now what's good for the country is Obama's defeat.

Please vote!

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evlbruce
04-19-2012, 14:53
The current senate race ('http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0412/75312.html') in Indiana a good example of what's happening in the GOP: Obama's favorite Republican is facing a tough primary challengeso the GOP establishment pulls out the stops and flies in the RINO rescuers.

Ruble Noon
04-19-2012, 15:25
The coming conservative landslide led by the election of Mitt Romney? :wow: LMAO. :rofl:

janice6
04-19-2012, 15:29
Repubs should follow the libs lead.


Vote early and vote often.

jakebrake
04-19-2012, 16:29
Repubs should follow the libs lead.


Vote early and vote often.

and remember, bring out your dead....they looooove to vote.

just sayin'

Cavalry Doc
04-19-2012, 17:48
The GOP does not need us in the the Tea Party, the GOP has God on their side.

ARS

Man, you inject your Atheist Jihad into just about every post.

Go get some counseling or something. :upeyes:

Cavalry Doc
04-19-2012, 17:59
Bottom line gents, two concurring predictions are still predictions. A lot will happen between now and November. It is still entirely up in the air. about 48-51% of the electorate has no end of year federal tax liability (depending on whose stats you believe).

There are an awful lot of people that voted for Barry last time around, and a lot of them are still around.

I'm far from a Romney fan. In fact, while I was typing this post, I got a call from the NRA. They are starting their defeat Obama Campaign and wanted to send me a commemorative knife if I would send them $100. I politely declined stating that I would not give a single dollar to help elect Romney, who actually signed an assault weapons ban, the caller actually used the term "People's Republic of Massachusetts".

I will not give a dime to elect Romney, to anyone. I will vote for him if he is the most viable alternative to Barry. It's hard to be a pragmatist some of the time, but I will suppress my emotions and vote with my head in the General Election.

No problems with people voting with their heart though. You Paul guys can write him in or vote third party if you choose to do so *if* he goes that route with my blessing.

There are no perfect choices this time around. There are two miserable choices though. Voting for Obama, or Staying home. I don't support either of those choices.

juggy4711
04-19-2012, 18:34
Republicans have been in a landslide away from conservatism since long before anyone posting here was born.

FLIPPER 348
04-19-2012, 18:46
tagged for Nov

Bruce H
04-19-2012, 20:03
When the current republicans are worse than Lyndon Johnson I see very little reason to celebrate.

aspartz
04-19-2012, 21:56
Man, you inject your Atheist Jihad into just about every post.

Go get some counseling or something. :upeyes:
Perhaps the GOP should get some counseling, that is if they want the tea party vote. The God on their side mantra is what has gotten them where they are.

It's not atheist, it's smaller government. The GOP has kicked the original tea party in the teeth. When will the GOP field a non-fundamentalist who is strong on the economy? We suffered through GWB and his compassionate conservatism, and now we find there is no room in the tent for someone who just wants to limit the intrusion of the moralist right into their lives.

Would you vote for a Barry Goldwater today? Would he even be room in the GOP tent for him?

ARS

aspartz
04-19-2012, 22:08
When the current republicans are worse than Lyndon Johnson I see very little reason to celebrate.
As I have said several times. All I want is a candidate who will stand up and say:



The economy is the number one issue in front of the nation. Until that is back on track, any bill presented to me that is intended to restrict the rights of one person to improve the moral fabric of the country will be vetoed without consideration.
Any spending proposal that will transfer wealth from on person to another to improve the latter's quality of life will be treated as in #1.
Any bill the decreases the power, influence or spending of the central government will be signed immediately.

ARS

JBnTX
04-19-2012, 22:43
Lucky for us and the country, no candidate is that narrow minded.

The complex problems facing this country require complex solutions.
Setting and following inflexible plans and solutions is a recipe for disaster.

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Guss
04-19-2012, 23:41
So the Republicans have chosen the most Obama-like of their candidates and the conservatives are going to deliver a landslide for him???????

snerd
04-20-2012, 00:36
So the Republicans have chosen the most Obama-like of their candidates and the conservatives are going to deliver a landslide for him???????
Crazy, ain't it? Don't shoot the messenger.

aspartz
04-20-2012, 01:24
Lucky for us and the country, no candidate is that narrow minded.

The complex problems facing this country require complex solutions.
Setting and following inflexible plans and solutions is a recipe for disaster.

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The complex problems all deal with the economy. It is not narrow minded to focus on that first. That is, of course, if you are not a big government authoritarian.

The solution to our economy has nothing to do with DOMA, the WarOnSomeDrugs, prayer in school or any other moral crusade.

We also cannot afford to continue nation building to make the world a nicer place. We need to focus on the economy.

Continuing down the path with yet another big government administration is the recipe for disaster. Unfortunately the GOP has once again selected poorly.

ARS

Bruce H
04-20-2012, 05:07
Lucky for us and the country, no candidate is that narrow minded.

The complex problems facing this country require complex solutions.
Setting and following inflexible plans and solutions is a recipe for disaster.

..


The perfect answer by someone who doesn't have a clue how to fix things or what is wrong in the first place. Complex solutions have been the answer for years. Thousand page pieces of legislation to deal with one problem.

Getting rid of assinine regulations that make work for federal and state employees is the first that needs to go.

Ruble Noon
04-20-2012, 05:11
The perfect answer by someone who doesn't have a clue how to fix things or what is wrong in the first place. Complex solutions have been the answer for years. Thousand page pieces of legislation to deal with one problem.

Getting rid of assinine regulations that make work for federal and state employees is the first that needs to go.

Like the US tax code or the 3000 page obamacare bill.

zeke501
04-20-2012, 05:32
According to who?

A bunch of pissed off sore losers, mad at the republican party for not bending over for Ron Paul?

A very small group of selfish, anarchist, government hating, elitist jerks who think they're better than everyone else?

Today's republican party isn't perfect, not by a long shot, but it's far better than Ron Paul and Obama put together.

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AMEN BROTHER!!!:fred:

Restless28
04-20-2012, 05:46
According to who?

A bunch of pissed off sore losers, mad at the republican party for not bending over for Ron Paul?

A very small group of selfish, anarchist, government hating, elitist jerks who think they're better than everyone else?

Today's republican party isn't perfect, not by a long shot, but it's far better than Ron Paul and Obama put together.

..

I always thought you "were that guy" and this is more validation.

JBnTX
04-20-2012, 06:01
I always thought you "were that guy" and this is more validation.

Whatever do you mean?:dunno:

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Restless28
04-20-2012, 06:05
That you are closed minded and fail to consider anyone's viewpoint other than you own, and that you find sport in being adversarial to conservatives.

bear62
04-20-2012, 06:20
It is very important to get Barry out of office. He has been one of the most polarizing President ever. If he wins a 2nd (final) term you will see the true Obama moving this country even more to the left. There are more people to the left of center than to the right. I never thought that would happen but IMHO it has. As a conservative, far to the right individual, I realize I'm now in the minority...... and that minority is shrinking more and more each year. Very sad. Glad I'm old.

There is no doubt in my mind Barry will be reelected. :crying:

It's of paramount importance that the GOP maintain control of the House ...... and I believe they will.

I have only slight hope of a GOP takeover in the Senate but I don't believe they will. Hope I'm wrong...

On the bright side I'm headed for the gym, then going to do some plinking and possibly some jeeping. And then it will be time for a well deserved nap..........:wavey:

JBnTX
04-20-2012, 06:20
That you are closed minded and fail to consider anyone's viewpoint other than you own, and that you find sport in being adversarial to conservatives.



"adversarial to conservatives"?

I'm the biggest supporter of the republican party on this forum.

I'm not the one trashing the only hope of defeating Obama in November.

You libertarians are just sore losers because the republican party has rejected you and your leader.

walt cowan
04-20-2012, 06:33
barry will win because, it was mitts turn.:upeyes:

windplex
04-20-2012, 08:50
duplicate

lancesorbenson
04-20-2012, 09:00
one talker here suggested ron paul as head of the fed reserve. frankly that would interest me as and well and might be his highest purpose in life were it to happen.

If Romney wins the nomination--almost half the states haven't had primaries--he could go a long way towards uniting the party by bucking convention and publically offering Ron Paul a cabinet position. I would gladly vote for Romney if I knew Ron Paul were going to be Treasury secretary, Sec of State, etc. so would the vast majority of RP supporters I'd bet.

JBnTX
04-20-2012, 09:11
I would gladly vote for Romney if I knew Ron Paul were going to be Treasury secretary, Sec of State, etc. so would the vast majority of RP supporters I'd bet.

As evidenced by their posts on this forum, the Ron Paul supporters would NEVER vote for Romney under any circumstances.

They loathe the republican party and it's members.

windplex
04-20-2012, 09:22
If Romney wins the nomination--almost half the states haven't had primaries--he could go a long way towards uniting the party by bucking convention and publically offering Ron Paul a cabinet position. I would gladly vote for Romney if I knew Ron Paul were going to be Treasury secretary, Sec of State, etc. so would the vast majority of RP supporters I'd bet.

At this stage in Ron's life he might serve his values, followers and the nation best buy doing one of those jobs or the fed reserve. I'd like to see it as well. had ron been the nominee i would have voted for him, too.

ColdSteelNail
04-20-2012, 09:23
As usual some right wing nut reads an article in some right wing online publication (The Daily Caller) and takes it to heart. It's way too early for anyone to start claiming a landslide or even a win one way or the other.
I suspect it will be a close election with neither side gaining enough seats in the Senate to end the gridlock. The likely outcome will be four more years on nothing getting done on either side of the aisle.

snerd
04-20-2012, 09:33
...... some right wing nut reads an article in some right wing online publication (The Daily Caller) and takes it to heart. It's way too early for anyone to start claiming a landslide or even a win one way or the other.
I suspect it will be a close election with neither side gaining enough seats in the Senate to end the gridlock. The likely outcome will be four more years on nothing getting done on either side of the aisle.
I'm not a nut, and I knew the story long before they did. You claim it's too early to claim anything, then go on to claim it will be close. In other words, you didn't like my theory, but yours is the right one because you're all calm, cool and collected. A giant in political musings. Meh.

wjv
04-20-2012, 10:17
Obama is going to be crushed. We still have a summer of Obamanomics ahead of us.


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I'm hoping for $6+ gas. . .
That would be the deal sealer. . .

lancesorbenson
04-20-2012, 10:55
As evidenced by their posts on this forum, the Ron Paul supporters would NEVER vote for Romney under any circumstances.

They loathe the republican party and it's members.

I am a Ron Paul supporter. You quoted the circumstances under which I'd vote for Romney and the proceeded to say Ron Paul supporters would NEVER vote for Romney under any circumstances. How do these two things make sense to you?

Stubudd
04-20-2012, 10:58
one talker here suggested ron paul as head of the fed reserve. frankly that would interest me as and well and might be his highest purpose in life were it to happen.

brother you will be appointed head of the federal reserve before ron paul will be

Jeb will be head of the fed before RP

He is literally the last human on planet earth they would ever allow into that position

JBnTX
04-20-2012, 11:05
I am a Ron Paul supporter. You quoted the circumstances under which I'd vote for Romney and the proceeded to say Ron Paul supporters would NEVER vote for Romney under any circumstances. How do these two things make sense to you?


I've never quoted any circumstances under which Ron Paul supporters would vote for Romney, because I don't think they will. Don't know where you read that?

Ron Paul supporters have consistently trashed the republican party, it's candidates and even threatened to vote for Obama just to teach republicans a lesson.

They deny republicans are conservatives and blame them for the problems in America.

I just don't see ANY true Ron Paul supporter ever voting for Romney or any other republican candidate.

You might be the exception to that belief.

I certainly hope so, cause that would mean you're smarter than the average Ron Paul supporter.

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windplex
04-20-2012, 11:08
I'm not a nut, and I knew the story long before they did. You claim it's too early to claim anything, then go on to claim it will be close. In other words, you didn't like my theory, but yours is the right one because you're all calm, cool and collected. A giant in political musings. Meh.

i agree. predicting the future is much harder and much more valued skill than predicting past results. the morning after the election everyone can predict what happened in the election and that info will be worthless.

if people dislike Snerd's prediction lay your own on the line here as some have had the courage to do:wavey:

windplex
04-20-2012, 11:09
brother you will be appointed head of the federal reserve before ron paul will be

Jeb will be head of the fed before RP

He is literally the last human on planet earth they would ever allow into that position

sad, really. but likely too true!

Flintlocker
11-02-2012, 01:02
I'll have to go back and look for the post where I was called delusional for predicting a landslide in November. I still have no hesitation to predict it.

You look to be correct. This will be a great victory for the Romney, Ryan and all real Americans.

series1811
11-02-2012, 14:41
You look to be correct. This will be a great victory for the Romney, Ryan and all real Americans.

You okay? You didn't get hit in the head with a piece of hurricane debris or anything did you?

janice6
11-02-2012, 14:44
i'm one of the meek, still waiting to inherit the earth:wavey:
You will. about 6 foot of it.

snerd
11-02-2012, 14:46
Ahhhh........ good to see this thread revived for Wednesday the 7th.

countrygun
11-02-2012, 14:48
Ahhhh........ good to see this thread revived for Wednesday the 7th.

Pity it was caused by featherlicker in the throes of the grieving process

Providence
11-02-2012, 14:56
28 large newspapers who endorced O. last time, but endorsed R. this time: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/change-see-the-28-large-newspapers-that-endorsed-obama-last-election-and-are-now-endorsing-romney/

snerd
11-02-2012, 15:13
First day of early voting at the election board in the courthouse here. Line was wrapped around an entire block 1 1/2 times at 1:05pm this afternoon. It was nowhere near as diverse as it was 4 years ago. Just sayin'.

coastal4974
11-02-2012, 16:08
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq286/whylookhere/ACORNVOTES.jpg