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Kevin108
04-20-2012, 20:04
My girl drives about 40 miles a day and I want her to have something reliable. Her 04 Forenza is holding up fairly well. The dealer installed a new head gasket and trued the head. I've installed a timing belt, water pump, cam shaft position sensor, thermostat and maybe another item I'm forgetting.

We'll be ready to buy towards the end of the year. We're planning for a family and have a trailer with two ATVs we need to be able to tow. Loaded, it's 2,000 lbs or less. 4 doors is nice. The higher mileage the better. It would be great to get away with spending less than $30,000.

We originally were looking at a 4-door 4x4 Silverado but I think I'm going to drop the 4x4 requirement I originally had. I wanted to be able to take it down to NC and drive on the beach but other than Carova, the recent law changes have priced that once-enjoyable destination out of my range. Since I doubt I'll ever get enough use out of 4 wheel drive to justify the cost and mileage hit, I think 2WD will be just fine for this vehicle.

I'm considering an SUV or a car big and strong enough to handle the trailer. We get great pricing on GM stuff, so I'm partial there but I'm open to most anything.

skinny99
04-20-2012, 20:34
Traverse or Silverado. Drive them both and pick the one you like best.

If you are planning to trade in 24-42 months buy the truck for sure. Resale value is much better.

RenoF250
04-20-2012, 21:24
Look at the F-150 with the ECO-Boost.

wrczx3
04-21-2012, 10:03
For a compact SUV you might check out the RAV4. It comes with an optional 269 horsepower V6 in either 2 or 4 wheel drive. The V6 will tow 3500lbs which is alot for a compact suv. I own a 4 wheel drive V6 and I am averaging 20mpg around town. I like the extra power of the V6 too. It really puts a smile on my face when I step on the gas.

Kevin108
04-21-2012, 18:20
We will definitely give those a look! I've said often how I never plan to buy another Jeep but in the back of my mind, the Wrangler Unlimited keeps popping up as an option here... :shocked:

glock509
04-21-2012, 18:24
I second the ford

Firefightermdc
04-21-2012, 18:27
Ford has more interior space for sure, being a prior ford tech, I'd wait a few years to see how reliable that Eco boost motor will be..Chevy has a much better warranty

wrenrj1
04-21-2012, 18:50
I got the call nobody want's two days ago. My older sis called me frantically, that her niece was in a collision with her 2010 Volkswagon Jetta. Her parents are in FL, I am in NE, the niece goes to college here, and the wreck happened about three miles away from my home.

The pic is about 48 hrs. old:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb87/wrenrj1/Liz%20Crash%20Pics/2012-04-20_14-22-07_805.jpg

Get the vehicle with the highest safety rating. She walked away from a highway speed t-bone when the driver crossed the line and over corrected. Luckily both sustained minor injuries.

My take home point is upgrade to the latest safety features if you can!

Restless28
04-21-2012, 18:55
Hold out for the new Hyundai Sante Fe this fall and into 2012. A sport version is coming soon and a 7 passenger one is coming next year. Both are totally redesigned and carry a killer warranty!

If I pay the stupid tax on a car again, we would give that Sante Fe Sport a looksee.

Eric
04-21-2012, 19:04
We will definitely give those a look! I've said often how I never plan to buy another Jeep but in the back of my mind, the Wrangler Unlimited keeps popping up as an option here... :shocked:



I've traditionally been a Jeep fan, but my brother's Wrangler Unlimited. It was seriously under-powered and the gas mileage sucks. He did a cold air kit, cat-back exhaust and chip tune. That helped quite a bit with the power, but the mileage is still not great. Eric

Restless28
04-21-2012, 19:15
I got the call nobody want's two days ago. My older sis called me frantically, that her niece was in a collision with her 2010 Volkswagon Jetta. Her parents are in FL, I am in NE, the niece goes to college here, and the wreck happened about three miles away from my home.

The pic is about 48 hrs. old:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb87/wrenrj1/Liz%20Crash%20Pics/2012-04-20_14-22-07_805.jpg

Get the vehicle with the highest safety rating. She walked away from a highway speed t-bone when the driver crossed the line and over corrected. Luckily both sustained minor injuries.

My take home point is upgrade to the latest safety features if you can!

I'm glad she is ok! My cousin put her daughter in a MB because of safety concerns.

Firefightermdc
04-21-2012, 19:20
Op said it will be something that needs to pull..that Hyundai is a good buy

Kevin108
04-21-2012, 19:52
The "latest safety features" are why her Forenza carries a salvage title. A few years back she bumped into the back of a car that stopped suddenly. Literally, a slight, slow bump. Both cars had the same cheap fiberglass-over-honeycomb bumpers. No damage at all to either vehicle. There wasn't even any paint transfer! But both of her airbags deployed and the seatbelts locked. She sustained injury to her arm from the airbag. Safety indeed. :upeyes:

Sorry for the rant. Glad your niece is okay! A Jetta isn't going to be able to tow two ATVs although I did tow my one quite a bit with my 05 Corolla. (Sold it in 08 when I moved 2.5 miles away from work. Couldn't justify $400 a month for new car/new car insurance no further than I was driving.)

http://kevin108.com/files/images/08car01.jpg

wrczx3
04-21-2012, 20:08
A Hyundai is a good buy but I hope you never plan on selling it or trading it in. They drop like a stone!

Gregg702
04-21-2012, 20:16
For a compact SUV you might check out the RAV4. It comes with an optional 269 horsepower V6 in either 2 or 4 wheel drive. The V6 will tow 3500lbs which is alot for a compact suv. I own a 4 wheel drive V6 and I am averaging 20mpg around town. I like the extra power of the V6 too. It really puts a smile on my face when I step on the gas.

My wife drives a 2011 Rav4 Sport FWD V6, and it is a great vehicle. Power is more than ample, the back seats are huge(I am 6'3 and can fit comfortably in the back seat, with the front seat all the way back), and there is plenty of cargo room.

Dan_ntx
04-21-2012, 20:18
I just got a 2012 wrangler...not an unlimited, but the new motor/trans combo gets me 18ish mpg in a 4x4 on 32 in mud terrain tires. Great power difference from the 3.8 JKs.

Be aware that the max tow package is needed to tow a trailer like yours.

If you like Jeep but want a little more family friendly vehicle, look at the new Grand Cherokees. Big upgrade from older models and plenty of towing capacity.

Glock 1
04-21-2012, 20:25
The pic is about 48 hrs. old:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb87/wrenrj1/Liz%20Crash%20Pics/2012-04-20_14-22-07_805.jpg


That ****'ll buff out. Glad everyone is ok. I loved my 05 Jettas.

MGGLOCK9
04-21-2012, 20:27
A 2 wheel dr quad cab-

You don't have heavy towing so a Ford 3.7 v6 supercrew would work.

Or a Ram quad cab with 4.7 v8

Or a Tundra 4.6 v8 doublecab

Chevy-oh no, not after the last 3 Chevy trucks I owned Don't do that to yourself.

You will find a 4 door pickup is probably the most versatile vehicle you can buy-it has a hundred uses.

Good luck

MG

kiole
04-21-2012, 21:11
I've traditionally been a Jeep fan, but my brother's Wrangler Unlimited. It was seriously under-powered and the gas mileage sucks. He did a cold air kit, cat-back exhaust and chip tune. That helped quite a bit with the power, but the mileage is still not great. Eric

What year is it? The 2012s engine is much better then the 07-11 engines. I just picked up a 2012 sport s and it's got better get up and go then the older motors.

GoBigOrange
04-21-2012, 21:31
I just bought this 2012 Toyota Rav4 today and I love it. If you get the optional V6 you would have no issues towing the trailer and still get good gas mileage. These vehicles are amazingly spacious inside.

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab105/emathew3/IMG_20120421_183907.jpg?t=1335047968

Eric
04-21-2012, 22:00
What year is it? The 2012s engine is much better then the 07-11 engines. I just picked up a 2012 sport s and it's got better get up and go then the older motors.

A 2011. The 2012 may be an improvement, but Chrysler is behind the curve in both power and gas mileage, especially in their V-6's.

Personally, I want to see a real stump-puller of a V-6 Turbo-Diesel put in the Wrangler. I'd buy one of those. Eric

TSAX
04-21-2012, 22:10
The Honda Pilot served my buddies wife really good. I think a small/mid size SUV type would work best.








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Kevin108
04-21-2012, 22:30
The biggest problem I see with sticking with a 2WD 4-door pickup is that it's only a couple grand more to get a 4x4.

I agree that virtually everyone I've talked to has said the JKs were underpowered but the new 2012 has some crazy exhaust setup that's supposed to take care of everything. Color me skeptical at best.

The Pilot looks to be on the high end of my price range.

G-Lock808
04-21-2012, 22:36
Honda ridgeline

*ASH*
04-21-2012, 22:39
A Hyundai is a good buy but I hope you never plan on selling it or trading it in. They drop like a stone!

more like a boulder . if buying one buy used 2 to 3 years old . can save a bundle . you wait 3 years you would less then half of what is new .

itisbruno
04-21-2012, 22:42
How about an 8,000 lb Ford Excursion with a 7.3l Diesel, not new, but safe and powerful


:supergrin:

RenoF250
04-21-2012, 23:08
The Honda Pilot served my buddies wife really good. I think a small/mid size SUV type would work best.








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I have a Pilot and they cannot tow anything worthwhile.

DanaT
04-22-2012, 04:11
I made a promise to respond with only certain vehicles that meet minimum acceptable standards in a class. It sounds like an SUV would fit you well.

Here is what to buy:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oYidZ1IJJoE/Td4lZyTxJWI/AAAAAAAABh4/0_SHMiplOw0/s1600/porsche-cayenne-turbo-s_2605201103.jpg


However, since I made that statement, there has been addition. I thunbk this one would also be acceptable.

http://1.1.1.2/bmi/www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Geneva-2012-Bentley-SUV-Concept.jpg

-Dana

wrenrj1
04-22-2012, 18:37
Honda ridgeline

My five-year pic of my RL taken today. It is indeed a safe vehicle.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb87/wrenrj1/FiveYearanniversary1.jpg

John Creasy
04-22-2012, 18:56
Hyundai Santa Fe or Tucson. Around $23K-$25K vehicles. I sell a lot of the Tucson's to people who stop at our dealership after looking a a Rav4. 10 year warranty and it comes standard with options you pay extra for on the Rav4

Restless28
04-23-2012, 06:06
Hyundai Santa Fe or Tucson. Around $23K-$25K vehicles. I sell a lot of the Tucson's to people who stop at our dealership after looking a a Rav4. 10 year warranty and it comes standard with options you pay extra for on the Rav4

I am really looking forward to that new Sante Fe Sport! I likey the turbo one!!!

Wonder140
04-23-2012, 06:19
How about an 8,000 lb Ford Excursion with a 7.3l Diesel, not new, but safe and powerful


:supergrin:

Very safe. Check this Excursion I was first on scene to. Came out as 4 people trapped inside. There were 4 people inside and it flipped several times before landing upside down. Everyone walked away with a couple scratches only...amazing. http://img.tapatalk.com/42577a08-48ce-da6e.jpg

Wonder140
04-23-2012, 06:22
I say get a Tacoma. They have fantastic resale, probably the best out of any truck, and run forever. People are selling 10 year old 150k+ mile Tacoma's for $12k+....and getting the money for it. This will be our next purchase.

Kevin108
04-24-2012, 22:32
I say get a Tacoma. They have fantastic resale, probably the best out of any truck, and run forever. People are selling 10 year old 150k+ mile Tacoma's for $12k+....and getting the money for it. This will be our next purchase.

I've looked at them but a 4-door 4x4 is like $35,000. :wow:

Wonder140
04-24-2012, 23:00
I've looked at them but a 4-door 4x4 is like $35,000. :wow:

You said you wanted to be at 30k or less plus were ok without the 4x4. You can get one in 2wd for less than 30k. There is negotiating room plus this truck will run for a long tjme and has one of the best resale value. It's a win win. Why not get a year old used one from a Toyota dealer and make sure its certified pre owned. That way, you save a little over new and get a better warranty out of it. Another win win!!!!

DieselNut
04-25-2012, 05:21
If you're okay with used buy a (2006-2007) dodge 2500 with a 5.9 Cummins diesel. Buy a mega cab and you'll have a vehicle that will last as long as you want to keep it. I've already read about a guy who owns 6 and 2 have over 2 million miles each. I get around 21-22 mpg hwy, and with a tuner I had it up to near 25 mpg.

As far as resale goes..... 1989-1993s are still selling at $5,000. The motor is what makes them hold their value so good.

http://www.cumminsnewsletters.com/td/brennan_magee.html

Kevin108
04-25-2012, 05:49
"Brand new" is one of the factors on her list of what we're shopping for. I'd love to get something coming off lease that still had some warranty left on it and save thousands but I don't think that's up for discussion.

Even for me 6 years old is pushing it though. 3 years ago I bought a 10-year-old Chrysler (Jeep Cherokee) and I'm still working out some electrical issues...and that was after replacing the engine at 130,000. I do my own mechanical work on our little fleet (00 XJ, 87 Silverado, 04 Forenza and two ATVs) so I'm not afraid to get greasy or log in to my RockAuto account but this time we're definitely going new.

Restless28
04-25-2012, 05:55
I've looked at them but a 4-door 4x4 is like $35,000. :wow:

Damn, that's a lot of $$$!

$35,000 buys a lot of Hyundai. Wait for the Sante Fe Sport Turbo before you decide.

One of these days, Hyundai and Kia are going to build a truck to compete against the Tacoma. Maybe some competition will bring Toyota prices back to reason.

Chuck66
04-25-2012, 07:50
If you get a great buy on GM products, give a looky at the Traverse(or the GMC Acadia). 5000lb tow rating, good mileage with or without AWD, size and capability considered, and you'll be glad you have all the seating and cargo space when you start having kids.

It's tops on my list right now for a future family hauler, but I'll give the Hyundai a look if I'm still in the market when it comes out.

My thought on the AWD is, if you really want it, you might as well get it. The mileage penalty is negligible in almost all cases, and if you ever really need it, just once, you'll be glad you have it.

DowntimeLA
04-25-2012, 07:57
the current F150 is ahead of the silverado in my opinion

the mileage compares to mid size SUVs also

Chuck66
04-25-2012, 08:08
I agree that virtually everyone I've talked to has said the JKs were underpowered but the new 2012 has some crazy exhaust setup that's supposed to take care of everything. Color me skeptical at best.


It's a new engine, if I follow correctly. Chrysler's new Pentastar V6. And it apparently fixed 95% of the power and torque complaints. 0-60 dropped by several seconds.

ETA: Yup. New engine. Found the artilce I read a while back.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2012-jeep-wrangler-first-drive-review

DanaT
04-25-2012, 10:30
Damn, that's a lot of $$$!

$35,000 buys a lot of Hyundai.

Is a lot buy weight?

That barely buys you any options on the BMW you wanted...

-Dana

Kevin108
04-25-2012, 21:50
It's a new engine, if I follow correctly. Chrysler's new Pentastar V6. And it apparently fixed 95% of the power and torque complaints. 0-60 dropped by several seconds.

ETA: Yup. New engine. Found the artilce I read a while back.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2012-jeep-wrangler-first-drive-review

Good find. Nope, won't be a guinea pig on an untested engine. Rule #1 of new car buying is "never buy the first model year".

DanaT
04-25-2012, 22:15
Except the pentastar engine is not a new engine. It has been around a few years. This is just the first year it has been in a wrangler.

Dana


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Restless28
04-26-2012, 05:53
Kevin, have you looked at a 3.6 Subaru Outback? With a redesign comin soon, dealers may want to bargain on these?

Kevin108
05-15-2012, 15:58
Now I'm thinking a 2013 Ford Escape with the 1.6L EcoWTFever. 23-33 mpg, available AWD and can tow 3,500 lbs.

Gregg702
05-15-2012, 16:08
Now I'm thinking a 2013 Ford Escape with the 1.6L EcoWTFever. 23-33 mpg, available AWD and can tow 3,500 lbs.

The reviews have been good, but if I was you, I would try to get the 2.0 Ecoboost, mostly because it has had more shakedown time in other vehicles.

oldsoldier
05-15-2012, 18:08
Check out Tacoma and Tundra. My local dealer is giving $5000 off the sticker price and 0% financing. The 4Runner is a nice looking vehicle too but I didn't drive one. It is on the same frame as the FJ Cruiser.

Kevin108
05-15-2012, 18:19
The reviews have been good, but if I was you, I would try to get the 2.0 Ecoboost, mostly because it has had more shakedown time in other vehicles.

From what I saw, it doesn't have a comparable tow rating. Of course, I find that ridiculous, but that's what I was seeing. :dunno:

wrenrj1
05-15-2012, 18:35
What ever you pick, go for a five star rating for safety. I got the call last month that my niece was in an accident. She's in NE as am, and her parents are in FL. She was banged up, and left the hospital a bit sore a few hours later, but the 2010 Jetta did it's job after a car coming towards her swerved and crossed the center line.

First I realize that's a long sentence....Second, look at the pic and forget about the first...

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb87/wrenrj1/Liz%20Crash%20Pics/2012-04-20_14-22-07_805.jpg

kindaclever1
05-16-2012, 11:15
the current F150 is ahead of the silverado in my opinion

the mileage compares to mid size SUVs also

This!

Kevin108
06-07-2012, 17:30
We got a great deal on a 2012 Ford Escape a couple days ago. Seems to be exactly what we needed!

http://img.tapatalk.com/aefc729f-408c-f497.jpg

Mayhem like Me
06-07-2012, 18:20
I am partial to the Tahoe/silverado we get 15 city about 20 highway(tahoe) total MPG .
With the G80 and good tires it will go anywhere.
I also like the 4dr tundra 4.7 tundra 4wd.


Acccck I missed your last post good for you hope it keeps you happy for many miles..

Kevin108
06-10-2012, 21:31
Day 1 was 22.2 mpg
Day 2 was 26.5 mpg

Didn't make a mental note for today.

Haldor
06-11-2012, 08:03
For a compact SUV you might check out the RAV4. It comes with an optional 269 horsepower V6 in either 2 or 4 wheel drive. The V6 will tow 3500lbs which is alot for a compact suv. I own a 4 wheel drive V6 and I am averaging 20mpg around town. I like the extra power of the V6 too. It really puts a smile on my face when I step on the gas.

I have been very happy with my RAV4. Mine is the V6, AWD and it is is really quick off the line. No squealing tires, just very rapid acceleration. Makes merging into traffic a lot less dramatic.

Mine gets around 20 MPG city and 26 MPG highway. It is very comfortable for 4 adults plus gear.

I heard they upgraded the sound system for 2012. That is good because the radio in my 2010 was the worst I have ever heard in a car (only complaint I have against the car). If you get an older one either plan on upgrading or just listening to talk radio. I upgrade mine last month (new head unit, speakers, amps, subwooffer, door deadening) as a birthday present to myself, pricy (~$2K), but it made a huge difference.

Kevin108
10-21-2012, 15:25
Haven't chimed in for a bit on this. We've got around 6,000 miles on it now. The wife averages close to 25 mpg with it, even fighting traffic. When I get it on the highway, I get better than 30 mpg with it. We're loving it!