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lawandorder
04-22-2012, 06:33
of any persuasion. In my opinion there is something fundamentally wrong with any one who is a politician.

I do believe however that some are much worse that others. Some that because of their beliefs or agendas are extremely dangerous.

I have never donated to, or really helped any politician in the time I have been on this earth.

That is going to change this year and I am going to donate to the Republican party not because I like Romney but because as the President of the United States I don't feel he would be a danger to our country.

This may well be the most important (possibly the last) Presidential election in history.

G23Gen4.40
04-22-2012, 07:00
A+

One of the best posts I have seen here.

Mitt Romney may not be the best choice that the GOP could have offered us, but at this time it is about getting rid of President Obama. I also feel that he will hurt this country less than President Obama. I know that is a pitiful way to look at it, but it is what it is.

We either get behind Mitt Romney and stop all this silly fighting or we are doomed. This very well may be the last chance we get to take a step in the right direction. Rome was not built in a day, neither will all of America's problem be fixed with one election. We did not get in this situation over night, and it will take time to get us out of it. Mitt Romney is the first small step. It sure will not be good if President Obama gets re-elected, and like the OP said this may be our last chance.

hogfish
04-22-2012, 07:08
of any persuasion. In my opinion there is something fundamentally wrong with any one who is a politician.

I do believe however that some are much worse that others. Some that because of their beliefs or agendas are extremely dangerous.

I have never donated to, or really helped any politician in the time I have been on this earth.

That is going to change this year and I am going to donate to the Republican party not because I like Romney but because as the President of the United States I don't feel he would be a danger to our country.

This may well be the most important (possibly the last) Presidential election in history.

You can only hope that after you research and study the platforms, they will follow thru. I agree with helping/donating to the person you will be voting for. After the damage done by the last two presidents and their teams, I would think more people would get involved.

:wavey:

JBnTX
04-22-2012, 07:34
This may well be the most important (possibly the last) Presidential election in history.

:goodpost:

Finally, a personal opinion that makes some sense.:wavey:

You're right about politicians! We place way too much emphasis on politics
and politicians in this country.

But don't worry there will be many, many more presidential elections
for many years to come.

The fat lady hasn't even walked to the microphone yet.


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JBnTX
04-22-2012, 07:37
Mitt Romney may not be the best choice that the GOP could have offered us, but at this time it is about getting rid of President Obama. I also feel that he will hurt this country less than President Obama. I know that is a pitiful way to look at it, but it is what it is.




THIS...:thumbsup::agree:


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The Machinist
04-22-2012, 10:58
We either get behind Mitt Romney and stop all this silly fighting or we are doomed. This very well may be the last chance we get to take a step in the right direction. Rome was not built in a day, neither will all of America's problem be fixed with one election. We did not get in this situation over night, and it will take time to get us out of it. Mitt Romney is the first small step. It sure will not be good if President Obama gets re-elected, and like the OP said this may be our last chance.
We're already doomed. Voting for progressive liberals like Romney who know how to tug your pseudo-conservative heart strings is exactly the reason were in this shape. The only thing you're doing is exacerbating the problem, and speeding our decline.

Cavalry Doc
04-22-2012, 11:17
We're already doomed. Voting for progressive liberals like Romney who know how to tug your pseudo-conservative heart strings is exactly the reason were in this shape. The only thing you're doing is exacerbating the problem, and speeding our decline.

There is only a loose correlation between how people vote in the General Election, and how candidates are chosen.

After a milquetoast liberal is the republican nominee, it is too late to lay blame on the people choosing between two less than desirable (not evil) choices. Looks like the race will be between a liberal and a socialist.


It's not the voting in the general election that is the root cause, it's the candidate selection process. The first step is in motivating the right people to run. There was a total failure the last two times in this process. No one was generally likeable to have a chance except for Barry. Next, the practice of small purple and blue states voting first to help build financial and emotional momentum for the most liberal candidates needs to go away.

We need all the states to vote on the same day, or possibly let the larger red states go first.

I know it's frustrating when the guy you really wanted to win the race isn't going to make it, but neither of us represent the electorate, we are simply individuals. It's not a personal issue, it is one of demographics.

janice6
04-22-2012, 11:24
My only choice is "the lesser of the evils".


(Let's change streams in the middle of this horse)......Yes, I know.

Stubudd
04-22-2012, 11:34
a step in the right direction.... /facepalm :faint:


it's milquetoast

Cavalry Doc
04-22-2012, 11:39
a step in the right direction.... /facepalm :faint:


it's milquetoast

Thanks, typo fixed.:wavey:

Maybe not a step in the right direction, but a step that isn't as bad as the alternative.

G23Gen4.40
04-22-2012, 11:54
We're already doomed. Voting for progressive liberals like Romney who know how to tug your pseudo-conservative heart strings is exactly the reason were in this shape. The only thing you're doing is exacerbating the problem, and speeding our decline.

Now, the above was not called for. You have no idea who I am or what I believe and little insulting comments get us no where.

My point is, like it or not, Mitt Romney will be the GOP candidate. We are once again left with a "lesser of two evils" situation. My candidate of choice is out of it, so I am stuck voting for who I feel will cause the less damage. I never said I like it, but it is what it is. No candidate will appeal to everyone. Someone will always feel like their guy was the better choice. It all depends on your circumstance in life, on who you think the best choice is.

I feel that a first term Mitt Romney is a lot better option than a second term Barack Obama. Maybe not much better, but I will take what I can get. Even if it only slows the demise of the USA, and gives us a chance to last long enough to slowly bring things around.

Not voting is not an option for me, I feel that as an American citizen voting is my duty.

lawandorder
04-22-2012, 12:01
Yep one step in dog poo, the other step is off the cliff.

Cavalry Doc
04-22-2012, 12:43
Now, the above was not called for. You have no idea who I am or what I believe and little insulting comments get us no where.

My point is, like it or not, Mitt Romney will be the GOP candidate. We are once again left with a "lesser of two evils" situation. My candidate of choice is out of it, so I am stuck voting for who I feel will cause the less damage. I never said I like it, but it is what it is. No candidate will appeal to everyone. Someone will always feel like their guy was the better choice. It all depends on your circumstance in life, on who you think the best choice is.

I feel that a first term Mitt Romney is a lot better option than a second term Barack Obama. Maybe not much better, but I will take what I can get. Even if it only slows the demise of the USA, and gives us a chance to last long enough to slowly bring things around.

Not voting is not an option for me, I feel that as an American citizen voting is my duty.

Which is very reasonable.

You are fairly new around these parts. Some of the Paul guys are really ticked off that things didn't go their way, and are trying to work through their anger here. Don't be surprised if they call you a statist, neocon, hater of liberty, shredder of the constitution, a big guvment luvver, and raise questions about the marital status of your parents at the time of your birth. The younger whelps aren't as polite as the older, generally speaking.

Brucev
04-22-2012, 12:46
of any persuasion. In my opinion there is something fundamentally wrong with any one who is a politician.

I do believe however that some are much worse that others. Some that because of their beliefs or agendas are extremely dangerous.

I have never donated to, or really helped any politician in the time I have been on this earth.

That is going to change this year and I am going to donate to the Republican party not because I like Romney but because as the President of the United States I don't feel he would be a danger to our country.

This may well be the most important (possibly the last) Presidential election in history.

I agree.

G23Gen4.40
04-22-2012, 13:33
Which is very reasonable.

You are fairly new around these parts. Some of the Paul guys are really ticked off that things didn't go their way, and are trying to work through their anger here. Don't be surprised if they call you a statist, neocon, hater of liberty, shredder of the constitution, a big guvment luvver, and raise questions about the marital status of your parents at the time of your birth. The younger whelps aren't as polite as the older, generally speaking.

Well, I look at it this way. They don't know me or anything about me, so any derogatory comments they make don't mean anything to me. The internet is an easy place to be brave and throw out insults when you probably will never have to face the intended victim of childish assaults.

I am just saying that regardless if your guy is the candidate or not, as an American Citizen it is your duty to vote. I could care less how you vote, it is your choice and I support your choice. If you don't vote then you don't have a right to complain. We all have opinions on how we think government should be ran based on our circumstances. No one person's opinion is better than the next, and contrary to the belief here on GTPI we are all entitled to our opinion. If your guy is not the candidate then write him in, but don't ignore your duty to vote.

However, I stand by my opinion that, anybody (including Mitt Romney) is better than Obama. If you don't agree, then vote for Barack Obama or write in your candidate of choice, but don't complain about how bad Barack Obama makes things in this country when he wins again.

Cavalry Doc
04-22-2012, 13:57
Well, I look at it this way. They don't know me or anything about me, so any derogatory comments they make don't mean anything to me. The internet is an easy place to be brave and throw out insults when you probably will never have to face the intended victim of childish assaults.

I am just saying that regardless if your guy is the candidate or not, as an American Citizen it is your duty to vote. I could care less how you vote, it is your choice and I support your choice. If you don't vote then you don't have a right to complain. We all have opinions on how we think government should be ran based on our circumstances. No one person's opinion is better than the next, and contrary to the belief here on GTPI we are all entitled to our opinion. If your guy is not the candidate then write him in, but don't ignore your duty to vote.

However, I stand by my opinion that, anybody (including Mitt Romney) is better than Obama. If you don't agree, then vote for Barack Obama or write in your candidate of choice, but don't complain about how bad Barack Obama makes things in this country when he wins again.

I've posted almost exactly that same opinion about a hundred times over the last year.



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G23Gen4.40
04-22-2012, 14:08
I've posted almost exactly that same opinion about a hundred times over the last year.



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Great minds think alike. :wavey:

JBnTX
04-22-2012, 16:47
... Some of the Paul guys are really ticked off that things didn't go their way, and are trying to work through their anger here. Don't be surprised if they call you a statist, neocon, hater of liberty, shredder of the constitution, a big guvment luvver, and raise questions about the marital status of your parents at the time of your birth. The younger whelps aren't as polite as the older, generally speaking.


How True! How True!

Gundude
04-22-2012, 19:19
I feel that a first term Mitt Romney is a lot better option than a second term Barack Obama. Maybe not much better, but I will take what I can get. Even if it only slows the demise of the USA, and gives us a chance to last long enough to slowly bring things around.Fair enough. I feel that we cannot "bring things around" unless at least one of the two main parties offers a platform different than the other. I also believe that that party needs to be forced to offer that opposing platform. Lastly, I believe that it's up to us to force them to do that, by never allowing them to win an election with a candidate who betrays those principles.

Two opposing viewpoints. Incorporate them into your own as you see fit. :wavey:

G23Gen4.40
04-23-2012, 20:32
Fair enough. I feel that we cannot "bring things around" unless at least one of the two main parties offers a platform different than the other. I also believe that that party needs to be forced to offer that opposing platform. Lastly, I believe that it's up to us to force them to do that, by never allowing them to win an election with a candidate who betrays those principles.

Two opposing viewpoints. Incorporate them into your own as you see fit. :wavey:
So you feel that a second term Barack Obama is better than a first term Mitt Romney for this country. I already said Mitt Romney was not best choice we had, but I still think he is better than Barack Obama. If you are ok with Barack Obama getting a second term then by all means stay home, or better yet go vote for him.