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Bilbo Bagins
04-23-2012, 09:17
Between what is happeneing with the Martin/Zimmermen case and the 2012 election and the possibility of Obama losing, anyone considering the possibility of race riots as a possible SHTF event in the near future.

Will it not be that bad, or will it be worse than the Rodney King Riots?

Will it just be a Florida issue with the Zimmerman case, or will it spread nationwide?

Will it be contained in known urban hotspots, or will it spread beyond the cities?

I don't want to get into a black vs white debate. All I have to say I'm making sure I carry my CCW 24/7 and have extra mags in the vehicle, along with Bear spray in both vehicle as non lethal crowd control.

I don't want me or anyone in my family to end up like Reginal Denny.

bdcochran
04-23-2012, 09:34
In answer to your multiple questions:

1. everyone on this forum is aware that there can be race riots.
2. everyone on this forum is aware that there are parts of town that you don't visit in the best of times at 2 am or perhaps in the middle of the day.

The Rodney King riot was caused by two items that people routinely overlook.

LAPD was on extended shifts. The Superior Court Judge was specifically asked to hold up announcement of the verdicts until officers could be on duty. The Judge rejected the request. As a result, the verdicts were announced when the prior shift officers were on the way home.

LAPD had a plan. It was based upon 1965- withdraw from the area. Of course, in 1965 there wasn't television automatic video replay. I saw the first replay on wide screen television of the Denny beating in the presence of the Chief. It was broadcast over and over and over. So, plans did not keep up with technology.

Most of the people arrested as looters were illegals from Central America, not black/negro/colored US citizens. In many instances, specific businesses were targeted.

Chesafreak
04-23-2012, 09:34
I think there will some riots and an increase in revenge crimes. I can't imagine how widespread they will be.

Nobody knows for sure whats going to happen. All we can do is be prepared. I'm ready with a few boxes of buckshot and extra mags for the Glock.

Arvinator
04-23-2012, 09:36
Since I live in a small community with very little racial issues and a small number of any minority I am better then most. I suggest that you keep an eye on the news and when things start to stink like a riot get your plan into high gear of what you will do.
In the event of a riot a few plans will go a long ways to keep you safe. Your car is much more than a bunch of rioters on foot. Drive to safety, calling 911 first. In the event they come to your home, a cam corder filming the idiots will go to support your self defense claims and I'd put mine on a tripod from a upstairs window if trouble came my way.
In the car, gun, ammo, OC spray are all good choices but avoidance is best. When they come to your home, they are asking for trouble. Keep a water hose handy for small fires and once you run off or stop a few with something more than they have, I think they will get the hint.

Bolster
04-23-2012, 10:46
Between what is happeneing with the Martin/Zimmermen case and the 2012 election and the possibility of Obama losing, anyone considering the possibility of race riots as a possible SHTF event in the near future.

Sure, it's on the radar. One thing that's making heterogenous relations particularly toxic this time around, is Obama's background campaign theme of class envy. He's making it morally acceptable for the (self-styled) "have nots" to attack the (accused) "haves."

Furthermore, look at how this president springs into action on high profile race issues:

He immediately placed himself against the police and in league with professor Gates, saying the police had "acted stupidly" (Obama's words) to arrest Gates when Gates became combative. Any of us would have been arrested if we'd become combative, too...but Gates is apparently an untouchable, in Obama's mind.

He reflexively rushed to Trayvon Martin's defense with "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon" (Obama's words). There was obvious and unavoidable racial content in those words, which sent a clear signal that a disproportionate, nation-wide response would be tolerated if not welcomed. Green light for Jesse Jackson, who decided to "turn a moment into a movement" (Jackson's words.) Followed by a $10K bounty for Zimmerman's pelt, put up by the Panthers. (Which was apparently OK with the authorities in FL.) In this case, Dear Leader had chosen sides with virtually no evidence to go on, other than...well, skin color, to be blunt.

I really don't know how you'd expect relations to get better when there's a sitting US president who keeps picking away at America's racial scab.

Preparedness plans for civil unrest? Don't really have any, beyond avoiding the well-known trouble areas in LA. Now, who'll be the first to call me a coward, or a fool?

Natty
04-23-2012, 11:17
The 1992 Los Angeles (Rodney King) riots.

http://www.seraphicpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/riots_la1.jpg

Florida boys should prepare for the worse scenario.

Remember that the police left the area in the LA riot.

Good question about will it spread nationwide...

Natty
04-23-2012, 11:27
Will it not be that bad, or will it be worse than the Rodney King Riots?

Will it just be a Florida issue with the Zimmerman case, or will it spread nationwide?

Good idea putting this here. I started a thread and asked the exact same question in the GNC Lounge a week or so ago and it was locked within minutes.

:upeyes:

rwrjr
04-23-2012, 11:33
In the event they come to your home, a cam corder filming the idiots will go to support your self defense claims and I'd put mine on a tripod from a upstairs window if trouble came my way.

I don't like this idea. What you think may be used to support you can also be used against you. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere your neighbors will have plenty of testimony to back up your assertion of imminent danger. If riots take over your neighborhood, do what you need to do until you and yours is safe, then shut up and get a lawyer.

Bren
04-23-2012, 11:46
Between what is happeneing with the Martin/Zimmermen case and the 2012 election and the possibility of Obama losing, anyone considering the possibility of race riots as a possible SHTF event in the near future.

Will it not be that bad, or will it be worse than the Rodney King Riots?


Well, I enjoyed the Rodney King riots just fine, but I had cable then. now that I use netflix and DVD's, I won't get the 24-hour feed, so that will be worse, but otherwise not a problem.


Will it just be a Florida issue with the Zimmerman case, or will it spread nationwide?


Many people, black and white, hope it will become nationwide and turn into more of a civil war. I'll be interested to see whether either side can pull that off. If Benjamin Crump quits paying his publicist, I imagine martin/Zimmerman will go away and the only issue will be the election.

Bren
04-23-2012, 11:49
Florida boys should prepare for the worse scenario.

Remember that the police left the area in the LA riot.

Good question about will it spread nationwide...

Florida is not California and its police and citizens are mostly not Californians. That make all the difference. You will see a LOT more lead fly if their are ever riots in FL that seriously spill out of the inner cities.

barbedwiresmile
04-23-2012, 11:50
Between what is happeneing with the Martin/Zimmermen case and the 2012 election and the possibility of Obama losing, anyone considering the possibility of race riots as a possible SHTF event in the near future.

I would characterize it as a likelihood rather than a possibility.

Will it not be that bad, or will it be worse than the Rodney King Riots?

Depends on where you live.

Will it just be a Florida issue with the Zimmerman case, or will it spread nationwide?

Nationwide.

Will it be contained in known urban hotspots, or will it spread beyond the cities?

Contained to urban areas and inner suburbs. Spreading requires logistics and planning. Would dissipate very quickly outside of urban areas where resistance was met, but won't make it that far anyway.

I don't want me or anyone in my family to end up like Reginal Denny.

Then best to avoid urban areas in the aftermath of the verdict and the election.

G29Reload
04-23-2012, 12:00
One thing I will venture:

The race riot possibility is like radioactivity.

It will decay over time at an algorithmic speed.

Once the shock wears off, especially if its a clean win with no contested states… after we're passed the swearing in….

It will decay to near zero.

Reason: Short memories.

It also depends on how Zero behaves post-presidency. If he has some dignity and wants to suck up on the million dollar lecture circuit, or subscribe to racial demands that he become some black elder statesman, he'll keep his yap zipped except when its appropriate and just give speeches for money.

If he goes the Al Sharpton / Chuck Schumer route and goes TV camera hunting at every opportunity and gets heated with the rhetoric, we could have a new Malcom X on our hands.

Remains to be seen.

Bolster
04-23-2012, 12:05
It also depends on how Zero behaves post-presidency. If he has some dignity and wants to suck up on the million dollar lecture circuit, or subscribe to racial demands that he become some black elder statesman, he'll keep his yap zipped except when its appropriate and just give speeches for money.

If he goes the Al Sharpton / Chuck Schumer route and goes TV camera hunting at every opportunity and gets heated with the rhetoric, we could have a new Malcom X on our hands.

Remains to be seen.

Course, the decision isn't either-or. Look at Bill Clinton, who does both. Also Carter. Liberal presidents don't "relinquish" the power and fade quietly away like conservatives do. Libs crave power and want it as long as possible. We'll be having to listen to Obie for a long, long time, no matter what happens in the next election.

Dirk Pitt
04-23-2012, 13:07
The 1992 Los Angeles (Rodney King) riots.

http://www.seraphicpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/riots_la1.jpg

Florida boys should prepare for the worse scenario.

Remember that the police left the area in the LA riot.

Good question about will it spread nationwide...


HEY! I remember that view! FROM MY FRONT WINDOW. What fond memories.:sigh:
Well maybe not so fond,
Lived it, saw it, smelled it (that part nobody tells you about) and got through it.
NOT A FUN EVENT, take all precautions as everyone here is talking about.

Bring_it!
04-23-2012, 13:15
In answer to your multiple questions:

1. everyone on this forum is aware that there can be race riots.
2. everyone on this forum is aware that there are parts of town that you don't visit in the best of times at 2 am or perhaps in the middle of the day.

The Rodney King riot was caused by two items that people routinely overlook.

LAPD was on extended shifts. The Superior Court Judge was specifically asked to hold up announcement of the verdicts until officers could be on duty. The Judge rejected the request. As a result, the verdicts were announced when the prior shift officers were on the way home.

LAPD had a plan. It was based upon 1965- withdraw from the area. Of course, in 1965 there wasn't television automatic video replay. I saw the first replay on wide screen television of the Denny beating in the presence of the Chief. It was broadcast over and over and over. So, plans did not keep up with technology.

Most of the people arrested as looters were illegals from Central America, not black/negro/colored US citizens. In many instances, specific businesses were targeted.

True, but Reginald Denny was not pulled from his truck and beaten by an illegals.

Bring_it!
04-23-2012, 13:20
I think there will some riots and an increase in revenge crimes. I can't imagine how widespread they will be.

Nobody knows for sure whats going to happen. All we can do is be prepared. I'm ready with a few boxes of buckshot and extra mags for the Glock.

Unfortunately, there is a minority (meaning size not race)element of our society that gets their primal trigger pulled over the dumbestthings, like their home team losing a sporting eventor getting impatient waiting in line for a new release of high-top BB shoes.
In 92’ we had a moderate (or what ever you would like to call him) republican in the WH. Currently, the WH is occupied by a personwhose claim to fame is being a “community organizer”. We shall see what part of the community hechooses to organize.

Natty
04-23-2012, 13:35
Florida is not California and its police and citizens are mostly not Californians. That make all the difference. You will see a LOT more lead fly if their are ever riots in FL that seriously spill out of the inner cities.

I have In-Laws in Florida that were born and raised there. Not the New England Yankee transplants that have invaded Florida. I've been there several times. They hunt and fish and shoot. It will be a sorry group of rioters that make it to their area.

They even invited me down to a turkey shoot May 29th.

:cool:

Shadyscott69
04-23-2012, 17:07
Florida is not California and its police and citizens are mostly not Californians. That make all the difference. You will see a LOT more lead fly if their are ever riots in FL that seriously spill out of the inner cities.

I have In-Laws in Florida that were born and raised there. Not the New England Yankee transplants that have invaded Florida. I've been there several times. They hunt and fish and shoot. It will be a sorry group of rioters that make it to their area.

They even invited me down to a turkey shoot May 29th.

:cool:

I agree. The South, aint urban California.

Pardoner
04-23-2012, 17:13
Florida is not California and its police and citizens are mostly not Californians. That make all the difference. You will see a LOT more lead fly if their are ever riots in FL that seriously spill out of the inner cities.

+1

Florida is NOT a disarmed California. The news pointed out with this whole Martin issue that the stats for Florida has 1 in 17 people with a CCW permit.

I went to the gun show in Orlando a few weeks ago. It was the first time I have EVER had to stand in line to get in and I had a good 25 people in front of me to wait for. The largest local dealer in the area had a sitting area packed with people waiting for their background checks to come back. I heard one of their 20 sales guys commenting that he was selling 2-3 handguns an hour himself that day (multiply that by 15 in their handgun area).

I hope there aren't any issues, but there is a demographic that looks for any excuse to start trouble.

syntaxerrorsix
04-23-2012, 17:17
My circle really hasn't given much serious thought about it. It's more likely some other area of the country will do the rioting if it were to happen.

samurairabbi
04-23-2012, 17:29
A timing consideration: The verdict in the Zimmerman case MAY come in AFTER the November election. This would affect the feedback impact on re-election / rioting / mass hysteria / karma / whatever. A lot of highly placed political advisors are probably praying for delays in starting the trial.

bdcochran
04-23-2012, 17:36
Ok for the benefit of the member who wanted more detail.

Yes, the people who pulled Denny from the truck were not illegals. The background is that the rioting had already started and LAPD had been ordered to pull back over the objections of the supervisor who was on the scene at the time of the order.

Ok. You want more detail. There were businesses burned out that catered to police. Like my favorite ribs place and I was not police. It was targeted. Otherwise, Korean merchants were targeted and you could see the trail of destruction for miles along the main streets where there were small mom and pop stores owned by Koreans.

My comment on riots. I drove a salesman around LA in the 1960s before the 1965 riot. So, I was very young. The boss told me that if I hit someone (and a lot of people didn't use crosswalks or pay attention to lights) to not stop and to drive to the nearest police station. So, OP, I have been conditioned to expect riots for 50 years and counting.:wavey:

Dexters
04-23-2012, 17:45
Florida is not California and its police and citizens are mostly not Californians. That make all the difference. You will see a LOT more lead fly if their are ever riots in FL that seriously spill out of the inner cities.

Agree

I don't get the sense that the feelings are the same as Zman and RK.

One thing is that it was Police & RK and there was the video of what happened.

LA is one big jurisdiction. Fla has a lot of small cities that can impede problems. There are also choke points - bridges and highways.

G29Reload
04-23-2012, 18:25
Course, the decision isn't either-or. Look at Bill Clinton, who does both. Also Carter. Liberal presidents don't "relinquish" the power and fade quietly away like conservatives do. Libs crave power and want it as long as possible. We'll be having to listen to Obie for a long, long time, no matter what happens in the next election.

This is probably one of the worst things about it.

I despised Jimmy Carter. Unfortunately,he has good genes and is still with us, opening his pathetic yap every time something comes along he wants to stick his nose in.

BHO is a year younger than me. Unless he has an unfortunate boating accident, I'm gonna have to listen to him mouthing off his socialist sewage till I die.

Bolster
04-23-2012, 18:31
OK, FL is not CA. Check.

But back to Bilbo's question...how does the potential of "civil unrest" impact your preps, beyond "I got my gun? Do we prep for civil unrest any differently than we prep for anything else?

I have pondered the idea of tossing a tin of "deep tan" into my backpack, so I don't stand out like a shiny penny when the fan is spinning.

syntaxerrorsix
04-23-2012, 18:48
OK, FL is not CA. Check.

But back to Bilbo's question...how does the potential of "civil unrest" impact your preps, beyond "I got my gun? Do we prep for civil unrest any differently than we prep for anything else?

I have pondered the idea of tossing a tin of "deep tan" into my backpack, so I don't stand out like a shiny penny when the fan is spinning.

It doesn't.

I don't what if. I prep to be self sufficient despite the event.

Misty02
04-23-2012, 18:50
Florida is not California and its police and citizens are mostly not Californians. That make all the difference. You will see a LOT more lead fly if their are ever riots in FL that seriously spill out of the inner cities.

I tend to agree with you on this, Bren. The number of licensed concealed carriers in Florida is not exactly small, to those numbers you can add the many others that own but never bothered to get their license.

We had absolutely no clue how many people we knew that actually owned until we became owners ourselves.

It would be really ugly down here if something like what is mentioned takes place. I don’t know many people that would acquire the victim status without putting up a good fight.

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jdavionic
04-23-2012, 18:51
Race riots are not new to Florida. I lived down there during the Liberty City riots in 1980. In addition, there were other incidents that didn't grab headlines but were indeed riots.

"Will it not be that bad, or will it be worse than the Rodney King Riots?"
I would say that the Zimmerman case has the potential to be much worse. However it may also be nothing...all depends on the outcome. It's a case of prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Given we've had so-called leaders rendering decisions and inciting outrage without seeing all of the facts, I'd say that this one has the potential to be much more widespread than just Florida.

"Will it be contained in known urban hotspots, or will it spread beyond the cities?"
When rioting broke out in the past in S FL, it started in the "hot spots" but quickly spilled over into neighboring areas. It did not turn into something where rioters left the hot spots and went 50 miles to another area to cause chaos.

With that said, there was the issue of getting 'trapped'. In the case of the riots that I recall, there was a situation where my sister was at work and had no way to get home without passing through some of the 'hot spots'. I would look at your commute and have a plan for such a situation.

Misty02
04-23-2012, 19:32
OK, FL is not CA. Check.

But back to Bilbo's question...how does the potential of "civil unrest" impact your preps, beyond "I got my gun? Do we prep for civil unrest any differently than we prep for anything else?

I have pondered the idea of tossing a tin of "deep tan" into my backpack, so I don't stand out like a shiny penny when the fan is spinning.

You would still need food and water and other supplies to avoid areas with hire propensity for disturbance. Delay in supply to local grocery stores should also be expected. I believe that while the overall danger may be higher if one ventures out or into unsafe areas, the comfort at home is likely to be higher than after 3 weeks of no electricity from a hurricane.

You should have sufficient medical supplies to handle minor injuries and illnesses at home. I suspect the wait time at hospitals, specially the one just a few blocks from my house receiving trauma patients via helicopter constantly, will be horrendous.

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Misty02
04-23-2012, 19:36
Race riots are not new to Florida. I lived down there during the Liberty City riots in 1980. In addition, there were other incidents that didn't grab headlines but were indeed riots.

"Will it not be that bad, or will it be worse than the Rodney King Riots?"
I would say that the Zimmerman case has the potential to be much worse. However it may also be nothing...all depends on the outcome. It's a case of prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Given we've had so-called leaders rendering decisions and inciting outrage without seeing all of the facts, I'd say that this one has the potential to be much more widespread than just Florida.

"Will it be contained in known urban hotspots, or will it spread beyond the cities?"
When rioting broke out in the past in S FL, it started in the "hot spots" but quickly spilled over into neighboring areas. It did not turn into something where rioters left the hot spots and went 50 miles to another area to cause chaos.

With that said, there was the issue of getting 'trapped'. In the case of the riots that I recall, there was a situation where my sister was at work and had no way to get home without passing through some of the 'hot spots'. I would look at your commute and have a plan for such a situation.

That would indeed be an issue. Picking up children at schools may be another. They seem to initiate their “lockdown” over just about everything.

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samurairabbi
04-23-2012, 19:42
But back to Bilbo's question...how does the potential of "civil unrest" impact your preps, beyond "I got my gun? Do we prep for civil unrest any differently than we prep for anything else?


One item that would move up in the pecking order: preventing THROWN firebombs from burning out my home's interior. My place is brick, so a thrown liquid bomb detonating OUTSIDE the wall would be bad yet manageable. I would have something rigged for the windows that would at least deflect a thrown incendiary device. Bullets, explosives, and crashing cars are another story, but impeding fire would be worth some effort.

jdavionic
04-23-2012, 20:18
That would indeed be an issue. Picking up children at schools may be another. They seem to initiate their “lockdown” over just about everything.

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I've thought about that one as well. It can get real ugly, real fast due to blindly following rules. You are there to get your child and take them away to a safe location with your family and the school officials say no, because their rules don't have instructions on how to handle that.

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Akita
04-23-2012, 20:38
Florida is not California and its police and citizens are mostly not Californians. That make all the difference. You will see a LOT more lead fly if their are ever riots in FL that seriously spill out of the inner cities.

I agree. If the scum decide to riot, they'll be burning down their own homes.

I see a trend.

BORNGEARHEAD
04-23-2012, 20:52
It seems like a non-issue to me. Media getting everybody hyped on some b.s.

Misty02
04-23-2012, 21:23
I've thought about that one as well. It can get real ugly, real fast due to blindly following rules. You are there to get your child and take them away to a safe location with your family and the school officials say no, because their rules don't have instructions on how to handle that.

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That wouldn’t be pretty, to put it mildly.

Last year my daughter had to wait from 2:30 PM until way past 6 PM for our granddaughter to be released, the school was on lockdown and they wouldn’t even tell her why or what was going on, what the danger was or if the danger was inside the school. I thank God I didn’t find out about any of it until after that night when she called to tell me. She started to call me a few times but didn’t complete dialing because she thought I would get in my car and drive the 50+ miles to be there.

(Of course I lied and told her I wouldn’t do that unless she asked me to)

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Misty02
04-23-2012, 21:26
It seems like a non-issue to me. Media getting everybody hyped on some b.s.

That is exactly the problem; up to now it has been the media who has assisted in creating a potential condition where one didn’t exist. With the immediate access to social media a situation can be coordinated in minutes.

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lawman800
04-23-2012, 22:31
In LA, there is a sizeable population that just sits around waiting for a reason to riot and act like animals. Look at all the reasons we have had so far:

Rodney King verdict
OJ Simpson verdict (not full scale but minor victory disturbances)
LA Lakers winning
LA Lakers losing
UCLA winning
UCLA losing
any rap concert venue in town
any sales of new game consoles, tv, shoes, etc.

I mean, you name it, we'll have some type of disturbance, whether it be localized and quickly dissipated or much larger like the LA or Watts riots... we have the people just ready and waiting for the whole thing to give them a reason, any reason.

As for preps, you do the same as anything else and hope you never have to resort to using anything you stocked up on, whether it be ammo, food, water, what have you.

fmhuff
04-24-2012, 00:30
In LA, there is a sizeable population that just sits around waiting for a reason to riot and act like animals. Look at all the reasons we have had so far:

Rodney King verdict
OJ Simpson verdict (not full scale but minor victory disturbances)
LA Lakers winning
LA Lakers losing
UCLA winning
UCLA losing
any rap concert venue in town
any sales of new game consoles, tv, shoes, etc.

I mean, you name it, we'll have some type of disturbance, whether it be localized and quickly dissipated or much larger like the LA or Watts riots... we have the people just ready and waiting for the whole thing to give them a reason, any reason.

As for preps, you do the same as anything else and hope you never have to resort to using anything you stocked up on, whether it be ammo, food, water, what have you.I'm thinking it was young Norwegians, Right. It's simply a culture war that sometimes manifest itself by way of an ethnic majority. Seems that multi-culturalism today likes to take turns at the madness. Even if you don't subscribe to derogatory racist views you still must beware of those that do.

lawman800
04-24-2012, 00:38
I'm thinking it was young Norwegians, Right. It's simply a culture war that sometimes manifest itself by way of an ethnic majority. Seems that multi-culturalism today likes to take turns at the madness.

There's really no one race here that has any exclusive monopoly on rioting and animalistic behavior... except Asians... never heard about them rioting or anything in any significant way because of some social or cultural event.

They do it well in Indonesia but that's another story. That was religious and/or ethnic rioting unrelated to our brand of rioting.

Here in LA, whites, blacks, browns, all misbehave equally when the opportunity presents itself... the only real difference is maybe venue and sometimes cause.

UCLA or other collegiate riots have quite a number of white students participating as evidenced by the videos of all the kids trying to tear Westwood apart, so there is no real racial component here, unlike what some race baiters are trying to make it out that anyone who talks about rioting is somehow automatically a racist for assuming only certain racial minorities riot.

P.S. Oh, if you think young Norwegians have a monopoly on that kind of stuff, wait until you see those Greenlanders and Icelanders who are here on vacation or student visas... talk about Ragnarok!:whistling:

FerFAL
04-24-2012, 03:15
Between what is happeneing with the Martin/Zimmermen case and the 2012 election and the possibility of Obama losing, anyone considering the possibility of race riots as a possible SHTF event in the near future.

Will it not be that bad, or will it be worse than the Rodney King Riots?

Will it just be a Florida issue with the Zimmerman case, or will it spread nationwide?

Will it be contained in known urban hotspots, or will it spread beyond the cities?

I don't want to get into a black vs white debate. All I have to say I'm making sure I carry my CCW 24/7 and have extra mags in the vehicle, along with Bear spray in both vehicle as non lethal crowd control.

I don't want me or anyone in my family to end up like Reginal Denny.

A riot of signifiant proportion isnt very likely, and within that unlikeliness, 99.9% of the time you avoid any sort of problem by staying put adn watching it over tv rather than trying to either join the protests, travel, bug out, or anything like that. During rioting you stay put! Add to that a half defendable home and a weapon and I guarantee you if you dont go looking for troubletrouble wont go looking for yo, wont even know you exists. Say you live in a minority hood and someone tries to take the oportunity to settle a score, grudge or hurt you in any way, they'll think long and hard about doing so when welcomed with hot led. Trust me on tihs one, rioters and looters do NOT walk into gunfire, they avoid it as much as possible.
Id' say tis something worth being aware of, most of all keep up iwth the news and keep your eye opened so as to detect trouble starting in your surroundings.
FerFAL

jdavionic
04-24-2012, 03:59
That is exactly the problem; up to now it has been the media who has assisted in creating a potential condition where one didn’t exist. With the immediate access to social media a situation can be coordinated in minutes.

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Agreed. Racial tension has been fueled by the media. We can debate why it exists separately (not part of this thread). However the fact that you have a congresswoman that grandstands citing racial profiling, black leaders hinting at civil unrest, extremist groups advocating violence with a DOJ that has routinely ignored them (i.e., supported them),...you end up with set of irresponsible representatives that are stirring a dangerous pot for their own personal gain with complete disregard for the seriousness of the issue.

With the exception of the black panthers, these representatives will be the same ones that will eventually blame social classes, etc if subsequent violence does erupt...again, failing to take responsibility for their own actions.

TangoFoxtrot
04-24-2012, 04:07
Between what is happeneing with the Martin/Zimmermen case and the 2012 election and the possibility of Obama losing, anyone considering the possibility of race riots as a possible SHTF event in the near future.

Will it not be that bad, or will it be worse than the Rodney King Riots?

Will it just be a Florida issue with the Zimmerman case, or will it spread nationwide?

Will it be contained in known urban hotspots, or will it spread beyond the cities?

I don't want to get into a black vs white debate. All I have to say I'm making sure I carry my CCW 24/7 and have extra mags in the vehicle, along with Bear spray in both vehicle as non lethal crowd control.

I don't want me or anyone in my family to end up like Reginal Denny.

It is what its going to be. If idiots want to burn down their hood let them. All the police have to do is contain it. If the rioters act like animals you simple threat them as such.

bdcochran
04-24-2012, 04:07
One of the reasons that older people are impatient, crusty and testy is that they have seen the same things, over and over again.

I coined a term nearly 40 years ago which was "the ethnic ripoff". People chose business associates, lawyers, doctors, political officer holders, employees on the basis of their own race, religion, creed, or color and without regard for competence.

In the political arena, blacks vote for blacks, Mexicans vote for Mexicans, Jews vote for Jews, and so forth. Honesty, competence, integrity count for nothing. Without picking on one group, an example would be that there would be peace in town if the police chief, mayor and high officials were (fill in your choice -black, white, Mexican, women).

Mr. Obama's comments are not off the cuff, stupid remarks. They are directed at energizing his political base, raising money, and creating tensions for his own political gain.

Rather than getting angry, and proving that I am right in my analysis, I concentrate of what I can control - myself. It is enough for me to do my exercise regimen, keep up with the paperwork and deal with the intra family drama. My success yesterday was my workout and counting that I had gotten rid of 4 more boxes of items.

Dexters
04-24-2012, 07:58
I coined a term nearly 40 years ago which was "the ethnic ripoff". People chose business associates, lawyers, doctors, political officer holders, employees on the basis of their own race, religion, creed, or color and without regard for competence.



From Ponzi to Madoff, it has been the same story.

I think one byproduct of the Latino illegal immigration will be the marginalization of Black community. The Latinos will be 35% of the population by 2050, Blacks 15%. The Latinos will take over the political seats currently held by Blacks. Will the Democrats get blamed? No. But, it is the Dems who are pushing for legalization of the the illegals. Anyway, it will be too late for the Black community.

Sad but true.

Where did the Black civil rights movement go off the tracks? About 1967/68 when the white liberals left it to protest against the war and splintered off to start the women's liberation movement. Also, the black civil rights leaders wanted to solidify their power by not making whites welcome at the top leadership. Like a corporation, it is good to have interlocking directors. Remember the 1968 march on Washington? No? That is because it got little news coverage and not many people showed up.

The future of the Black community is not good. And that future is being written now. 50% high school drop out rate for black males is telling.

http://www.censusscope.org/us/map_nhblack.html

UneasyRider
04-24-2012, 08:43
Here in Florida with Orlando being so close to Sanford you could see some trouble in the minority neighborhoods there but keep in mind that the Orlando police chief has said that if you shoot at a cop they will return fire and kill you. This is the area where the sherrif told the media "Because they ran out of ammunition," in response to his deputies shooting a criminal to death with 150 or so rounds.

This state is well armed. In addition to the many CCW's it is legal to carry a loaded gun in your car for anyone, just in a sealed container like a glove box. For those reasons I could personally see a mess in the larger cities, but in the neighborhoods, and no real trouble anywhere else.

However this will not be true in some of the northern cities where people are less willing to shoot down a mad dog, and I mean the police won't shoot, because they lack the support of the residents at the moment. OWS has been in training all over the country this winter, even on the road in Tehran, and this could easily turn into "The summer of blood" for America. Really a shame too since it is all about political power and not about any of us.

syntaxerrorsix
04-24-2012, 08:49
Here in Florida with Orlando being so close to Sanford you could see some trouble in the minority neighborhoods there but keep in mind that the Orlando police chief has said that if you shoot at a cop they will return fire and kill you. This is the area where the sherrif told the media "Because they ran out of ammunition," in response to his deputies shooting a criminal to death with 150 or so rounds.

This state is well armed. In addition to the many CCW's it is legal to carry a loaded gun in your car for anyone, just in a sealed container like a glove box. For those reasons I could personally see a mess in the larger cities, but in the neighborhoods, and no real trouble anywhere else.

However this will not be true in some of the northern cities where people are less willing to shoot down a mad dog, and I mean the police won't shoot, because they lack the support of the residents at the moment. OWS has been in training all over the country this winter, even on the road in Tehran, and this could easily turn into "The summer of blood" for America. Really a shame too since it is all about political power and not about any of us.

Actually that was Grady Judd in Polk County but I'm sure the sentiment is the same.

kirgi08
04-24-2012, 08:51
Misty :goodpost: :agree:

Folks,this will be a trigger Issue.If a "acquitted" verdict happens,there will be violence.The scale depends on the goading that's involved.We all have seen the reports and "expert" opinion on this topic.I hate ta say it,however the "owe" me folks will take ta the streets.'08. :sad:

UneasyRider
04-24-2012, 08:54
Actually that was Grady Judd in Polk County but I'm sure the sentiment is the same.

That's right it was. I love a good sherrif.

syntaxerrorsix
04-24-2012, 08:58
That's right it was. I love a good sherrif.

Me too :thumbsup:

Best answer ever.

Bolster
04-24-2012, 10:27
Agreed. Racial tension has been fueled by the media.

Yes, but let's give credit where it's due: the tension has been fueled by the media working hand-in-glove with the president. Want to reduce racial incidents? Find a commander-in-chief that doesn't politically capitalize on them whenever the opportunity presents itself. Find a president who pours water on the fire, not gasoline.

HexHead
04-24-2012, 10:35
I'm thinking it was young Norwegians, Right. It's simply a culture war that sometimes manifest itself by way of an ethnic majority. Seems that multi-culturalism today likes to take turns at the madness. Even if you don't subscribe to derogatory racist views you still must beware of those that do.

There's the problem right there. Not addressing the real problem. it is what it is, and will continue to be or get worse until it's dealt with honestly.

Lone Kimono
04-24-2012, 12:27
Anyone see this story on the Blaze about the guy in Alabama?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/justice-for-trayvon-alabama-man-in-critical-condition-after-mob-beating/

DoctaGlockta
04-24-2012, 14:27
Anyone see this story on the Blaze about the guy in Alabama?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/justice-for-trayvon-alabama-man-in-critical-condition-after-mob-beating/

Yes I did. But the MSM won't touch it. Orders from the DEOTUS and his cronies :steamed:.

UneasyRider
04-24-2012, 17:30
Yes I did. But the MSM won't touch it. Orders from the DEOTUS and his cronies :steamed:.

DEOTUS? Democratic Emperor of the United States?

DoctaGlockta
04-24-2012, 18:35
DEOTUS? Democratic Emperor of the United States?

Dog Eater of the United States.

Edit: This is a PSA. Please watch. Please help anyway you can

http://youtu.be/L_q9ns8LVVs

UneasyRider
04-24-2012, 19:12
Dog Eater of the United States.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Babynine
04-24-2012, 21:16
Heard rumors Illinois wellfare checks may stop going out this summer. I could see something like that upsetting some people.

lawman800
04-24-2012, 21:30
Heard rumors Illinois wellfare checks may stop going out this summer. I could see something like that upsetting some people.

Look at what happened when rumors of some state running out of welfare money did to civil order last year... forgot which state but it got so bad the state figured out some emergency way to fund it and keep the checks flowing.

G22Dude
04-24-2012, 21:45
I am so appauled by what happened in AL today. I haven't heard anything on the local news. I'm sure it will be minimized and downplayed

lawman800
04-24-2012, 21:57
What happened in AL today?

Bolster
04-24-2012, 21:59
What happened in AL today?

See post #52

lawman800
04-24-2012, 22:10
Wow... absolutely disgusting and I hate to say I am not surprised about the silence from the MSM and that the President has not said one word about it compared to how quickly he jumped to the defense of Gates and Trayvon to inject himself in the situation.

It really really is looking bad and the pot is boiling over.

jdavionic
04-25-2012, 03:55
Wow... absolutely disgusting and I hate to say I am not surprised about the silence from the MSM and that the President has not said one word about it compared to how quickly he jumped to the defense of Gates and Trayvon to inject himself in the situation.

It really really is looking bad and the pot is boiling over.

I wonder if rioting breaks out whether Obama would say that it could have been his son killed and him tossing rocks and bottles. [not seriously, just reiterating the point that he has already chosen a side regardless of the outcome].

UneasyRider
04-25-2012, 05:26
Heard rumors Illinois wellfare checks may stop going out this summer. I could see something like that upsetting some people.

That would do it!

I wonder if rioting breaks out whether Obama would say that it could have been his son killed and him tossing rocks and bottles. [not seriously, just reiterating the point that he has already chosen a side regardless of the outcome].

Whenever I hear that quote I think of the photo of Trayvon that you don't see... with the grill of gold teeth looking like a thug. There is so much misinformation about this case that you would think it was on purpose!

bdcochran
04-25-2012, 05:46
People need to chill out.

Pundits, newspaper owners, politicians, community leaders and even your pastor thrive on hyping incidents, twisting incidents, making comments and Monday morning quarterbacking.

Your President is normal. He wants to energize his base, obtain campaign contributions, and have volunteer workers. He could just as easily comment on farm subsidies, but you would be put to sleep!

I don't want a President who has to have a comment on everything, who has to be on the news every day, who has to run to every flood, earthquake or fire. However, that is exactly what the American public wants. Get over it.

If you don't like the guy who is in office, then donate money to the opposition. If you don't like the guy in office, then volunteer to walk precincts for the other guy.

UneasyRider
04-25-2012, 05:58
People need to chill out.

Pundits, newspaper owners, politicians, community leaders and even your pastor thrive on hyping incidents, twisting incidents, making comments and Monday morning quarterbacking.

Your President is normal. He wants to energize his base, obtain campaign contributions, and have volunteer workers. He could just as easily comment on farm subsidies, but you would be put to sleep!

I don't want a President who has to have a comment on everything, who has to be on the news every day, who has to run to every flood, earthquake or fire. However, that is exactly what the American public wants. Get over it.

If you don't like the guy who is in office, then donate money to the opposition. If you don't like the guy in office, then volunteer to walk precincts for the other guy.

I really respect your opinions BD but OWS has been spending the winter training groups of rioters in the skills needed to protect their identities while doing damage to property. I think that we all know that in the inner cities when the OWS people start smashing in the windows with 8 foot pipe and storming businesses in black garb that the low life will be right behind them and then take the lead.

My point is that people are actually planning and practicing tactics to be used this summer. Going to get a sporty for you urban folks.

bdcochran
04-25-2012, 06:17
"Going to get a sporty for you urban folks."

Always has been.:supergrin:


Every summer since 1965 I have been told that we would have another race riot in Los Angeles. Sells a lot of newsprint.

Just imagine 50 years of opinion pieces in the LA Times, special boondoggle projects at tax payer expense, electing officials on the bases of race, religion, cultural heritage because that would prevent race riots!

In LA, I get a lot of practice too. I avoid bad areas of town, stay out of bars, watch for the *******s who run stop signs, and maneuver streets with potholes (and imagine daily that shtf and the potholed roads are a result). I even lock my doors on my dead end street because of burglaries.

lawman800
04-25-2012, 08:27
Whenever I hear that quote I think of the photo of Trayvon that you don't see... with the grill of gold teeth looking like a thug. There is so much misinformation about this case that you would think it was on purpose!

But dem gold grills just be so so def, boyeee!!!!:supergrin:

And yes, the misinformation is on purpose. You think this was all an accident?:whistling:

Bolster
04-25-2012, 09:15
Your President is normal. He wants to energize his base, obtain campaign contributions, and have volunteer workers.

Ahem. Big difference between "normal motivation" (wanting to be re-elected) and "normal behavior" for a president, which most certainly does not describe Obama.

When Obie said "change," we didn't really know what that meant. Now we know it was:
- to defy the constitution,
- to do away with the balance of power,
- to redistribute to governmental unions,
- to construct a nation with porous borders
- to resurrect a socialist bulwark in the US,
- to waste money on ideologically acceptable boondoggles,
- to reduce (or perhaps to humiliate?) the US' standing in the world,
- to nullify gains in the middle east,
- to make gasoline use unacceptable or at least unaffordable,
- to stoke the fires of racism,
- to create a top-down command-and-control state, and
- to spend the money of several generations into the future.

Any historian of the presidency would tell you that BO is exceedingly unique, to put it gently, and far from normal, in his behaviors. A presidential aberration. I think the best historical precedent for BO is perhaps Ivan the Terrible. Movie-wise, High Plains Drifter.

I don't want a President who has to have a comment on everything, who has to be on the news every day, who has to run to every flood, earthquake or fire. However, that is exactly what the American public wants. Get over it..

No, it isn't. Not getting over it. Get over my not getting over it.

I will agree that half the nation is blind to the damage this president is doing to the fabric of our nation, and will go so far as to say perhaps he is exactly what half this nation deserves. It's a shame the other half has to suffer, now and into the distant future.

SilverCity
04-25-2012, 09:24
He gonna implement his communist/marxist takeover of America at the direction of his globalist/fascist banker handlers.

Don't believe? Watch and see.

Good luck, y'all.

SC

mixflip
04-25-2012, 09:32
Im sure there are large groups of people out there right this very minute that cant wait to here the verdict of the Zimmerman case and or the Obama election simply because they cant wait to have a reason to go smash a window and get them a flat screen TV or DVD's or clothes etc etc.

Lately angry youth have rioted when their team "WINS" so I will not be surprised if there are UK style riots regardless of the outcome of Zimmerman or Obama.

DoctaGlockta
04-25-2012, 09:41
Im sure there are large groups of people out there right this very minute that cant wait to here the verdict of the Zimmerman case and or the Obama election simply because they cant wait to have a reason to go smash a window and get them a flat screen TV or DVD's or clothes etc etc.

Lately angry youth have rioted when their team "WINS" so I will not be surprised if there are UK style riots regardless of the outcome of Zimmerman or Obama.

And if you happen to see the front page of CNN.com today you can see a story about.............................................

The Rodney King verdict. 20th anniversary April 29th.

Makes you go hmmmm :dunno:

LongGun1
04-25-2012, 17:02
One result of the "Zimmerman Witchhunt" is it is causing some to second guess a lawful self defense response... :whistling:


Look at the wild video at the bottom of this link...

http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/2012/04/23/front-sights-monday-blog-worrying-about-trayvon-martin-will-get-you-killed/

...as an armed hooded gangsta (Trayvon wannabe) attempts to steal an motorcycle!

Shots are fired...white guy appears to get shot in the leg...lucky to be alive! :shocked:

syntaxerrorsix
04-25-2012, 17:13
Not here.

coastal4974
04-25-2012, 17:37
I truly hope that there are no riots, anywhere.

If there are, I’m sure it will not be confined to Florida, I’m equally sure that if Obama thinks that riots will help his re-election, there will be riots.

This would also be a prime time for terrorists to take advantage of the situation.

If it happens stay home.

BORNGEARHEAD
04-25-2012, 17:50
Weapons of mass distraction.

TangoFoxtrot
04-26-2012, 04:20
[quote=BORNGEARHEAD;18891694]Weapons of mass distraction.[/quot

Where have I heard that before? :whistling:

lawman800
04-26-2012, 07:47
Weapons of mass distraction.

That would be the fake CLOB on the White House webpage?:whistling:

F350
04-26-2012, 07:58
As I understand the Florida process, the next step is for a review by a judge since there was no grand jury. This will be the first time that Zimmerman's side of the story will get a full and fair hearing (since the story hit the national press anyway, perhaps why he was not arrested the night of the shoot is because of justification). This judge could well tell the "special prosecutor" to quit PMSing, that Zimmerman acted in fully legal self-defense and no charges are called for and drop the whole thing.

This could happen in just a matter of weeks to a couple months, imagine the impact of the sudden news stories of "all charges against Zimmerman have been dropped by judge X". A sudden dismissal like that could very well kick things off quickly, the pandered to community suddenly loosing their sacrificial lamb without a trial where everyone can see the evidence (if they are even interested). Could well get ugly and fast.

I can't see anything happening here in W Colorado, it hadn't really dawned on me till the other day when I was surprised to see a black man riding a bike in a neighboring tourist town: there are very, very few blacks out here. Plus it IS W Colorado, since it got warm I have been OCing and haven't noticed so much as a second look, guns are even legal on the university/college campuses here.

lawman800
04-26-2012, 08:00
I really hope the judge has enough courage and conviction of character to do what's right, if he thinks that this case needs to be dismissed based on what is presented, then that should be the only consideration, not racial politics or political pandering. This is a man's life we are talking about here.

kirgi08
04-26-2012, 08:08
That would be the fake CLOB on the White House webpage?:whistling:

What's a CLOB ?.'08. :dunno: :whistling:

lawman800
04-26-2012, 08:10
His fake birth certificate which has distracted birthers since it was posted and made them work on that issue instead of concentrating on real issues.

kirgi08
04-26-2012, 08:11
Acronym failure.'08. :dunno:

lawman800
04-26-2012, 08:13
It's actually a COLB.... Certificate of Live Birth. Give me a break, it's early in the morning. So sue me.

Bolster
04-26-2012, 10:14
I really hope the judge has enough courage and conviction of character to do what's right, if he thinks that this case needs to be dismissed based on what is presented, then that should be the only consideration, not racial politics or political pandering. This is a man's life we are talking about here.

Oh come on, Pollyanna! Do the self-interest calculation. This is a judge's reputation in the MSM we're talking about here! If he comes down against Zimmerman his way forward will be smooth...bigger and better appointments await...a glowing page on Wikipedia...books to be written by this new hero of civil rights, reviewed by the NYT, etc. Being politically correct and giving the judgment that the noisy sector of America demands, is way more important (to a judge) than some "little person of no account" who may have been defending his insignificant little life.

LongGun1
04-26-2012, 12:28
Yet another racially based "black on white" attack supposedly due to the Trayvon incident ..

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/26/suspect-attacked-white-teen-because-am-angry-about-trayvon/


Be prepared for more to follow! :whistling:

kbrGlock
04-26-2012, 15:37
I think if there were race riots it would be the end o' da whiteman!!!!!!...holllaaaaaaaa:wavey:

Dexters
04-26-2012, 15:54
whiteman

'White man' is a myth used to scare people.

They existed at some point, but not now.

NecoDude
04-26-2012, 16:08
I truly hope that there are no riots, anywhere.

If there are, I’m sure it will not be confined to Florida, I’m equally sure that if Obama thinks that riots will help his re-election, there will be riots.

This would also be a prime time for terrorists to take advantage of the situation.

If it happens stay home.

Retaliation isn't confined to Florida, what makes you think riots (if any) would be confined to Florida?

If you believe the reports, so far in the past few days:
Alabama

http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/79/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/

Chicago
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/26/suspect-attacked-white-teen-because-am-angry-about-trayvon/

Not liking the path our nation is heading here...

jdavionic
04-26-2012, 18:26
Retaliation isn't confined to Florida, what makes you think riots (if any) would be confined to Florida?

If you believe the reports, so far in the past few days:
Alabama

http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/79/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/

Chicago
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/26/suspect-attacked-white-teen-because-am-angry-about-trayvon/

Not liking the path our nation is heading here...

Certainly don't think they'll be contained to FL.

As for the incidents so far, I cannot help but wonder whether they would have happened anyway and the "Trayvon" chant is just a popular justification for an act that they would have done regardless.

lawman800
04-26-2012, 23:13
the "Trayvon" chant is just a popular justification for an act that they would have done regardless.

Yep, just like Rodney King was an excuse for the looting they wanted to do too... how does rioting and burning down your own neighborhood advance the cause of social justice which is supposedly the reason for the anger?

4TS&W
04-26-2012, 23:20
'White man' is a myth used to scare people.

They existed at some point, but not now.

Or really? Last time I checked, I was still white... :rofl:

JuneyBooney
04-26-2012, 23:46
I think there will some riots and an increase in revenge crimes. I can't imagine how widespread they will be.

Nobody knows for sure whats going to happen. All we can do is be prepared. I'm ready with a few boxes of buckshot and extra mags for the Glock.

Lots of ammo needs to be purchased. :whistling: At least ten thousand rounds. :supergrin:

lawman800
04-26-2012, 23:48
Or really? Last time I checked, I was still white... :rofl:

That's because you're racist.:whistling::tongueout::rofl::supergrin:

lawman800
04-27-2012, 00:02
I think there will some riots and an increase in revenge crimes. I can't imagine how widespread they will be.

Nobody knows for sure whats going to happen. All we can do is be prepared. I'm ready with a few boxes of buckshot and extra mags for the Glock.

Revenge for what exactly?:steamed: What is the wrongdoing that you are getting revenge for? There has been no proof of wrongdoing. Yes, a human being is dead... but that doesn't mean it's a wrong until proven so.

Put it another way, if someone shot my brother dead, I would be pretty upset, but if my brother was going after the shooter with a knife for no reason or trying to rob him, and the shooter acted strictly in self defense, then there is no wrongdoing except by my brother, and there is no concept of revenge to be fulfilled since there is no wrong to right.

Also, if you are exacting revenge, you need a reason or standing for feeling aggrieved and revenge is exacted only on someone that has a relation to the wrongdoer so it means something. I bet you nobody that is Trayvon's friend or family is exacting revenge on anyone that is related to Zimmerman.

How does a random beating of a white dude in Arkansas by an angry black mob have any measure of exacting revenge for Trayvon against Zimmerman?

Then again, it doesn't have to make any rational sense. The perps are just using this as an excuse for their behavior and trying to rationalize it by saying it's bigger than Trayvon and Zimmerman is just pure bull****. This is not about black versus white or anything, it was man versus man in a bad situation and that is as complicated as it gets.

Allfal
04-27-2012, 00:28
Aw, come on. Revenge just like the L.A riots were revenge for those evil white officers being acquitted for the merciless beating of that upstanding citizen that did nothing to incur the wrath of those dastardly LAPD that beat that poor Rodney King into the ground for doing nothing but driving while being black.

There will be some civil unrest when GZ is acquitteded. My guess is it will be very limited to the low IQ or inner city groups.

The very worst thing that could happen to the powers that be, is that GZ is convicted on no more evidence than has already been presented. That could actually open eyes that they would prefer to stay asleep.

4TS&W
04-27-2012, 00:57
That's because you're racist.:whistling::tongueout::rofl::supergrin:

The new census forms:

Choose race:
African
Indiginous Native American/Eskimoe/Inuit
Hispanic
Racist

:rofl:

lawman800
04-27-2012, 01:39
The new census forms:

Choose race:
African
Indiginous Native American/Eskimoe/Inuit
Hispanic
Racist

:rofl:

I think I filled that form out for 2010.:crying:

jdavionic
04-27-2012, 03:27
Yep, just like Rodney King was an excuse for the looting they wanted to do too... how does rioting and burning down your own neighborhood advance the cause of social justice which is supposedly the reason for the anger?

Well, who knows...you might get a free TV out of the deal.

Dexters
04-27-2012, 08:13
Or really? Last time I checked, I was still white... :rofl:

Doubtful.

White men had money, power, status, controlled the fate of others, exploited others and the environment for their benefit, racist, sexist - people wanted to be them.

Chesafreak
04-27-2012, 09:09
Lots of ammo needs to be purchased. :whistling: At least ten thousand rounds. :supergrin:

If you have seen the movie 300, remember the wall of bodies? That should be enough of a deterrent to any bad guys that come along after the first wave.

Chesafreak
04-27-2012, 09:12
Revenge for what exactly?:steamed: What is the wrongdoing that you are getting revenge for? There has been no proof of wrongdoing. Yes, a human being is dead... but that doesn't mean it's a wrong until proven so.

Exactly. You are preaching to the wrong person. I feel the same. I'm just saying that those that are angry about it will use it as an excuse. There are already more and more hate crimes popping up in which someone says "revenge for...".

lawman800
04-27-2012, 09:21
Well, who knows...you might get a free TV out of the deal.

Right... I am so angry at society because I was oppressed and my blood brother who I care about so deeply who I have never met or known and probably would have picked a fight with if I saw him on my street got beat up by the white cops so in order to feel better about the situation, I am going to steal a TV and pair of hightop shoes from my local neighborhood store.:supergrin:

Ahhhh... justice!:whistling:

TangoFoxtrot
04-27-2012, 21:12
I'll say it again. If they riot, loot, burn, steal, mame, or kill just contain it in their hood. Cage them in like the animals they act like. Simple!

coastal4974
04-28-2012, 09:42
I truly hope that there are no riots, anywhere.

If there are, I’m sure it will not be confined to Florida, I’m equally sure that if Obama thinks that riots will help his re-election, there will be riots.

This would also be a prime time for terrorists to take advantage of the situation.

If it happens stay home.

Retaliation isn't confined to Florida, what makes you think riots (if any) would be confined to Florida?

If you believe the reports, so far in the past few days:
Alabama

http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/79/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/

Chicago
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/26/suspect-attacked-white-teen-because-am-angry-about-trayvon/

Not liking the path our nation is heading here...

I don't

4TS&W
04-29-2012, 19:08
Doubtful.

White men had money, power, status, controlled the fate of others, exploited others and the environment for their benefit, racist, sexist - people wanted to be them.

Except for all of this, I have all of this... :tongueout:

Actually, all it takes is the lily white skin. Don''t make me post pics of me in my swimsuit.. the resulting blindness could set the shooting sports back 62.7 years. I have Irish blood. Those people haven't seen the sun since sometime in the late triassic period. That was before there were people. Albinos look at me and call me "cracker". :shocked:

NecoDude
04-29-2012, 21:48
Actually, all it takes is the lily white skin. Don''t make me post pics of me in my swimsuit.. ". :shocked:

On a work trip to El Salvador we got some downtime at the beach. I had trunks on under the jeans and I dropped trou wearing white socks.... when I took my socks off everyone within eyeshot laughed their arses off. I asked what was so funny and they said they couldn't tell the difference between my skin and my socks.....

Bilbo Bagins
04-30-2012, 06:54
BTW..yesterday was the 20th anniversary of the LA riots.
1,600 buil;dings destroyed or damaged
$735 million in property damage
2,300 People wounded
53 people killed / 22 of those murders are still unsolved.

Here is a news story on those unsolved murders.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/29/for-22-murder-victims-la-riots-leave-legacy-justice-eluded/

lawman800
04-30-2012, 07:57
BTW..yesterday was the 20th anniversary of the LA riots.
1,600 buil;dings destroyed or damaged
$735 million in property damage
2,300 People wounded
53 people killed / 22 of those murders are still unsolved.

Here is a news story on those unsolved murders.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/29/for-22-murder-victims-la-riots-leave-legacy-justice-eluded/

Yep, justice for Rodney and all the looters who have nothing to do with it... no rest for the 22 souls.:steamed:

kirgi08
04-30-2012, 08:21
It's gonna get worse,Fla may implode shortly.'08.

owl6roll
04-30-2012, 10:42
Just be ready for anything.

Dexters
04-30-2012, 10:48
Just be ready for anything.

... stock up on condoms for the love riots to come ...

DrSticky
04-30-2012, 13:51
Philly Video (http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/national/article/1139818--video-race-debate-stirred-as-man-beaten-stripped-at-baltimore-st-patrick-s-day)

I didn't see this "revenge for Trayvon" incident in Philly by a black mob on a drunk white man.

Warning: The video is pretty rough.

Bilbo Bagins
04-30-2012, 14:06
Philly Video (http://www.metro.us/philadelphia/national/article/1139818--video-race-debate-stirred-as-man-beaten-stripped-at-baltimore-st-patrick-s-day)

I didn't see this "revenge for Trayvon" incident in Philly by a black mob on a drunk white man.

Warning: The video is pretty rough.

Maybe because it happened in Baltimore, on Saint Patty's day :upeyes:

Don't get me wrong, its racially motivated and more of the same BS, but it was big news in Baltimore, not Philly.

Glockdude1
04-30-2012, 14:11
Lots of ammo needs to be purchased. :whistling: At least ten thousand rounds. :supergrin:

Well, hurry up and order before it is too late!!


:tongueout:

Bilbo Bagins
04-30-2012, 14:34
Well, hurry up and order before it is too late!!


:tongueout:


:quiet: You are going to start another gun and ammo panic. That talk should be illegal , like yelling fire in a movie theater

lawman800
04-30-2012, 20:11
... stock up on condoms for the love riots to come ...

I wish we could have provided condoms to the parents of all these bastards who do nothing but seek to destroy society.:steamed:

kirgi08
05-01-2012, 08:53
I reckon it'll be retroactive in nature.'08. :darwin:

DoctaGlockta
05-01-2012, 13:05
Didn't hear too much about this from Al or Rev. Jackson

http://hamptonroads.com/2012/05/beating-church-and-brambleton

:steamed:

eyelikeglasses
05-01-2012, 20:54
I haven't been able to read the whole thread. I think for the most part racism is a generational thing. As the world gets smaller people are exposed to more. The media is hyping a race war to sell commercials. Crazies of both color and party have a big woody. It seems more likely, to me, that we may be being driven to division.

eyelikeglasses
05-01-2012, 21:05
I have pondered the idea of tossing a tin of "deep tan" into my backpack, so I don't stand out like a shiny penny when the fan is spinning.
Camouflage and deception are very good things. But maybe just go to any place outside of your neighborhood. I mean no disrespect. But most of the time a fellow person responds better to a look in the eye and a smile. By no means should my kindness be mistaken as weakness. Some people you view as a threat, view you as GZ. Instead of going ninja alert stage 2, look that Man in the eye and smile*. Normal people smile back, if someone doesn't, lace up your wall climbers and TCB.:wavey:

*You don't need to know gang signs. I have used the time honored tip of the hat, or nod, in most locales. Don't know any arctic tips, except Eskimo kisses.

Chris Brines
05-02-2012, 00:56
I agree. The South, aint urban California.

I live smack in the middle of Houston and this is definitely, a highly populated, very eclectic urban area. I'd say Houston (the fastest growing city in the U.S. to my knowledge) is about 3/4 the size of L.A. at this point, and believe me, we have and will have all the "fun" rioting here to if it pops off. Not to mention New Orleans, where the rest of my family resides.

eyelikeglasses
05-02-2012, 01:25
Jacksonville FL is the largest sq. mile wise(?, no cite). Huge potential for some areas to lose coverage.

eyelikeglasses
05-02-2012, 01:27
It's gonna get worse,Fla may implode shortly.'08.
Some here may explode, but I like our chances. Lots of us veteran type hereabouts.:whistling:

lawman800
05-02-2012, 09:17
I haven't been able to read the whole thread. I think for the most part racism is a generational thing. As the world gets smaller people are exposed to more. The media is hyping a race war to sell commercials. Crazies of both color and party have a big woody. It seems more likely, to me, that we may be being driven to division.

The old divide and conquer has been a socialist play for as long as there are socialists. Saul Alinsky codified it as a standard play in his instruction manual which Obama studied.

rwrjr
05-02-2012, 09:50
The old divide and conquer has been a socialist play for as long as there are socialists. Saul Alinsky codified it as a standard play in his instruction manual which Obama studied.

It's not just "socialists" that practice divide and conquer. IMO all of the power elites do so regardless of claimed political philosophy. Once in power, political philosophy is nothing but propaganda. The actions of all tell a much different story.

Divide and conquer is an ancient strategy that predates all socialists and has worked for thousands of years and will probably work for thousands more. When it comes right down to it virtually everybody has one or more hot buttons and they are easily manipulated. Whether it's religion, homosexuality, gun issues, race, taxes, fairness, envy, etc..., pick one or two and you can get just about anybody torqued up and distracted from the real issues at hand.

kirgi08
05-02-2012, 10:28
Ghost.'08.

rwrjr
05-02-2012, 10:40
Ghost.'08.

Casper? :tongueout:

quake
05-02-2012, 10:52
Casper? :tongueout:

No, he's white; and I've read that white people don't exist anymore. :supergrin:

lawman800
05-02-2012, 12:21
Socialists use divide and conquer as a central tenet of their tactics from the inception of their theory. Unlike classical uses where religion or race was used to unify one nation to go to war with another nation, socialists seek to turn the hate inward to make people hate each other within the same society via class warfare or race agitation in a heterogenous society. The sociali, st seeks to conquer their own nation.

Mao and Lenin/Stalin were classic examples of that. Instilling class warfare to conquer their own nation and installing a constant state of strife in the people to keep them busy and distracted from how miserable they are, just as the progressive liberals want here.

TangoFoxtrot
05-04-2012, 05:20
Socialists?

lawman800
05-04-2012, 10:52
Liberal progressives?

TangoFoxtrot
05-05-2012, 06:31
Oppssss I'm in the political forum, I thought this was the S/P forum sorry.

lawman800
05-05-2012, 14:32
Nothing threatens our survival in this country more than liberal progressive socialists who seek to rip apart the very fabric of American society.

SpectreRider
05-06-2012, 01:36
The old divide and conquer has been a socialist play for as long as there are socialists. Saul Alinsky codified it as a standard play in his instruction manual which Obama studied.

Actually, studied falls short of the truth.

Obama taught Alinsky. The notes on the board of that ONE photo of him as a supposed constitutional law professor are notes related to one of Alinski's theories.

I'm sure you noticed the man knows nothing of the Constitution except how to work around it.

As far as riots after a not guilty verdict for Zimmerman, a lot will depend on how the trial is covered. If the evidence presented is overwhelmingly if favor of Zimmerman and the media reports it as such, then it may be that little violence occurs. If it does occur it will probably be confined to the poorest urban areas most closely tied to the case, Liberty City area in Miami Dade and Sanford/Orlando. Another factor would be whether Al Sharpton does his best to forment riots. He has a history. In any event I am prepared to stay away from those areas.

Sendarr
05-06-2012, 01:53
Florida is not California and its police and citizens are mostly not Californians. That make all the difference. You will see a LOT more lead fly if their are ever riots in FL that seriously spill out of the inner cities.

Probably true

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Sendarr
05-06-2012, 02:00
I tend to agree with you on this, Bren. The number of licensed concealed carriers in Florida is not exactly small, to those numbers you can add the many others that own but never bothered to get their license.

We had absolutely no clue how many people we knew that actually owned until we became owners ourselves.

It would be really ugly down here if something like what is mentioned takes place. I don’t know many people that would acquire the victim status without putting up a good fight.

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+1

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glockin-45
05-13-2012, 23:15
In answer to your multiple questions:

1. everyone on this forum is aware that there can be race riots.
2. everyone on this forum is aware that there are parts of town that you don't visit in the best of times at 2 am or perhaps in the middle of the day.

The Rodney King riot was caused by two items that people routinely overlook.

LAPD was on extended shifts. The Superior Court Judge was specifically asked to hold up announcement of the verdicts until officers could be on duty. The Judge rejected the request. As a result, the verdicts were announced when the prior shift officers were on the way home.

LAPD had a plan. It was based upon 1965- withdraw from the area. Of course, in 1965 there wasn't television automatic video replay. I saw the first replay on wide screen television of the Denny beating in the presence of the Chief. It was broadcast over and over and over. So, plans did not keep up with technology.

Most of the people arrested as looters were illegals from Central America, not black/negro/colored US citizens. In many instances, specific businesses were targeted. He was not talking about the looters. He said riot, and what happened would have happened no matter what shift change or how many officers were on the street. I was in downey,ca. when this went down. And i was outraged that the police were afraid for their own safety that they did'nt go in and help him. BS, to anything else.:steamed:

Wil Ufgood
05-13-2012, 23:31
http://media.skateboard.com.au/forum/images/Kfc_Runner[1].JPG

kirgi08
05-14-2012, 08:02
He was not talking about the looters. He said riot, and what happened would have happened no matter what shift change or how many officers were on the street. I was in Downey,Ca. when this went down. And i was outraged that the police were afraid for their own safety that they didn't go in and help him. BS, to anything else.:steamed:

Youse missed the point,they aren't required too.'08.

Ask the scotus.:upeyes: