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DaveG
04-25-2012, 17:05
Gun sales are up... but the local store owner tells me he has had the AKs and ARs flying off shelves, and has many models on backorder... Also, according to him, Colt and Bushmaster are producing over double what they do normally.

So....

Are folks "getting them while they can" or preparing for a SHTF scenario? Is it related to the next election solely, or are their outside factors? What are your thoughts?

Why not other firearms... pistols, shotguns, rimfire...?

Ruble Noon
04-25-2012, 17:10
Romney's gun banning history is well known.

callihan_44
04-25-2012, 17:15
biggest reasons-OBAMA-ECONOMY

Cavalry Doc
04-25-2012, 17:15
This news is about 6 months behind the power curve

JFrame
04-25-2012, 17:25
The thing of it is -- I love those single-shot Contenders, and all the voracious buying of AR's and AK's doesn't seem to be lowering the cost of single-shots one bit... http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/cray2.gif


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ozark-tracker
04-25-2012, 17:40
I've talked with 2 brand new gun owners at the local gun shop, they say it's just not worth taking a chance that you may need a rifle if anything happened, fear of goverment, SHTF, almost anything you can think of is bothering people,

I better go get a few thousand more rounds of ammo.

JBnTX
04-25-2012, 17:49
Romney's gun banning history is well known.


It has nothing to do with Romney.

Fear of an Obama second term is fueling the gun buying spree.

Ruble Noon
04-25-2012, 18:06
It has nothing to do with Romney.

Fear of an Obama second term is fueling the gun buying spree.

How do you know? How many gun bans have Obama and Romney signed?

4TS&W
04-25-2012, 18:10
Facepalm... not this crap again.

Which on was in St. Louis at the NRA meeting this year?

You don't do that if you are planning on gun bans...

Restless28
04-25-2012, 18:11
It has nothing to do with Romney.

Fear of an Obama second term is fueling the gun buying spree.

Wanna bet? Fear of both of them is driving it. :wavey:

Ruble Noon
04-25-2012, 18:20
Facepalm... not this crap again.

Which on was in St. Louis at the NRA meeting this year?

You don't do that if you are planning on gun bans...

Reagan spoke at an NRA convention in 1983.

Cavalry Doc
04-25-2012, 18:24
Wanna bet? Fear of both of them is driving it. :wavey:

It's a little bit of everything. If you can think of a reason, someone out there has probably made a purchase for that reason. The few that have come to me for advise for their first gun in the last few months, has mainly been a general feeling that bad times were on the way.

4TS&W
04-25-2012, 18:27
Reagan spoke at an NRA convention in 1983.

Well, this isn't 1983.

In 1983 we didn't have:

Heller
McDonald
A sunsetted AWB
a track record of pro gun election wins
CCW almost completely nationwide, most of it shall issue

It's the other side that is on the ropes.. and if Romney is as wishy washy as everyone says, he'll see which side his bread is buttered on.

Ruble Noon
04-25-2012, 18:28
Well, this isn't 1983.

In 1983 we didn't have:

Heller
McDonald
A sunsetted AWB
a track record of pro gun election wins
CCW almost completely nationwide, most of it shall issue

It's the other side that is on the ropes.. and if Romney is as wishy washy as everyone says, he'll see which side his bread is buttered on.

What did we get in 1986?

The Machinist
04-25-2012, 18:36
People know that Obama is a guaranteed win this November. I'm glad I got my last AR put together a couple months ago.

Cavalry Doc
04-25-2012, 19:08
People know that Obama is a guaranteed win this November. I'm glad I got my last AR put together a couple months ago.

Nothing is guaranteed. But there is a pretty good chance Romney or Obama will win.

Atomic Punk
04-25-2012, 19:22
i hope nothing gets banned. of course i also hope obama get booted.

regardless i have wanted to add an AR or two to my collection. but with how things are, who knows when i'll be able to find a job i can afford to buy more guns. or cover all my bills for that matter.

Ewalk
04-25-2012, 19:33
IMHO. It is probably because AR's and AK's are awesome!

DOC44
04-25-2012, 19:58
Was in a gun shop today and they were talking about nobody buying or even asking about 22's... rifles or pistols.

Doc44

HarlDane
04-25-2012, 20:09
Romney's gun banning history is well known.Perhaps you could expand on the political climate Romney signed the bill under and describe what kind of gun laws would have been passed by the veto proof MA legislature had he not compromised and signed it?

Or are you only interested in half truths?

Ruble Noon
04-25-2012, 20:14
Perhaps you could expand on the political climate Romney signed the bill under and describe what kind of gun laws would have been passed by the veto proof MA legislature had he not compromised and signed it?

Or are you only interested in half truths?

What part of "Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts,These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people." do you not understand? :dunno:

DOC44
04-25-2012, 20:27
What part of "Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts,These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people." do you not understand? :dunno:

that was then this is now

Doc44

The Machinist
04-25-2012, 20:32
that was then this is now

Doc44
My God, man! He's telling you what you want to hear! That's the only thing Romney's ever done! :faint:

Ruble Noon
04-25-2012, 20:36
that was then this is now

Doc44

Yep, he's more pro gun than Ted Nugent




















Now. 2013 who knows. :dunno:

Paul7
04-25-2012, 20:38
Romney's gun banning history is well known.

When someone changes his mind the right way on this issue he should be congratulated, not beaten up.

DOC44
04-25-2012, 20:39
that was then this is now

Doc44

My God, man! He's telling you what you want to hear! That's the only Romney's ever done! :faint:

sorry I left off the sarcasm icon and the pix of the Etch a Sketch.

Agree, Mittens signed a perm assault weapons ban in Mass and gave a pro gun speech at the NRA party.

obama dark or obama lite.... take your pick.

Doc44

Ruble Noon
04-25-2012, 20:42
When someone changes his mind the right way on this issue he should be congratulated, not beaten up.

When someone changes their mind by which way the political winds blow, he should not be trusted.

Andy123
04-25-2012, 21:15
Yep, he's more pro gun than Ted Nugent




















Now. 2013 who knows. :dunno:

Maybe not, but he is a damn sight more pro gun than Obama

itstime
04-25-2012, 21:22
Was in a gun shop today and they were talking about nobody buying or even asking about 22's... rifles or pistols.

Doc44

Ha. My last two were 22's. More for me.

Guss
04-25-2012, 21:27
Start a rumor that there's an ammunition shortage and see how fast it becomes true.

TBO
04-25-2012, 21:29
Ron Paul...


(I kid, I kid!)

nmstew
04-25-2012, 21:32
An AK that flies on its own? That is scary. :faint:

HarlDane
04-25-2012, 22:01
What part of "Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts,These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people." do you not understand? :dunno:

So I guess the answer is you're fine with half-truths.

The simple facts are that the gun owners of MA ended up with a much better situation than they would have had Romney not compromised with the veto proof legislature and passed a law that left them with something. It's certainly not the best situation, but it's better than nothing, which is exactly what they would have been left with.

Gunnut 45/454
04-25-2012, 22:10
I'm good as I can out fit a small army! Got plenty of ammo and reloading supplies! So I'll sit this buying spree out and watch all the pin heads get raped! The Feds love it when all the extra taxes come in - this is why the Dumocrats love it -more money to waste!:steamed:

rilkil23
04-25-2012, 22:44
I bought my first AR last summer because I ran out of room in my gun safe designed for hand guns. I enjoy going to the range and felt it was time to expand my collection beyond just semi auto pistols. My justification for selecting a black rifle is this weapon gives me the ability to defend my family if things get that bad and the 223/5.56 round is affordable for the range and effective in a combat role.

Happy Hunting
04-25-2012, 22:57
Me and three of my friends all purchased their first black rifles in the last month. One S&W, two HSAs, and 1 SCAR. Bernanke called, he said thanks for stimulating the economy.

Cavalry Doc
04-25-2012, 23:54
Yep, he's more pro gun than Ted Nugent

Now. 2013 who knows. :dunno:

Even odds right now that we will get to find out how Barry will do in a second term, or Mittens will do in a first term.


If there is another choice that has a good chance of happening, lets hear it. :dunno:

Ruble Noon
04-26-2012, 05:43
Romney's gun banning history is well known.

So I guess the answer is you're fine with half-truths.

The simple facts are that the gun owners of MA ended up with a much better situation than they would have had Romney not compromised with the veto proof legislature and passed a law that left them with something. It's certainly not the best situation, but it's better than nothing, which is exactly what they would have been left with.

Did Governor Romney sign an AWB? Yes or No?

The answer is yes. Not yeah but...

HarlDane
04-26-2012, 19:40
Did Governor Romney sign an AWB? Yes or No?

The answer is yes. Not yeah but...

Had he vetoed the bill, would gun laws in MA be better or worse in the end.

HexHead
04-26-2012, 19:57
What part of "Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts,These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people." do you not understand? :dunno:


Yep. Signing or allowing a bill to pass because you have a veto proof legislature is one thing. Saying THAT while you sign it is a whole 'nother thing.

callihan_44
04-26-2012, 20:02
Was in a gun shop today and they were talking about nobody buying or even asking about 22's... rifles or pistols.

Doc44

in past years the gun shops i visit was mostly hunting gear, shotguns-deer rifles etc. That has seriously changed, black rifle sections have pretty much taken over some shops and prices have shot up but they still fly off the shelves.

Cavalry Doc
04-26-2012, 20:08
Did Governor Romney sign an AWB? Yes or No?

The answer is yes. Not yeah but...

How about Yes, and a follow up question?

What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?



Yes he signed one, yes, there are two different ways to look at it, and no I do not like him for it. That and Obamacare oops, I mean Romneycare are some pretty good reasons to not like the guy.

I get it. Looks like I am going to vote for Paul as a protest vote in the Texas Primary, since everyone else has dropped out. We'll see how that goes.

But in the General, I'll be voting, and for one of the viable candidates. If that only includes Barry and Mittens, I'll vote for Mittens. Not a perfect, or even fair scenario, but if it's the best you can get, it's the best you can get.

Unless you have a reasonable alternative option. I'd love to hear it if you do.

DOC44
04-26-2012, 20:20
in past years the gun shops i visit was mostly hunting gear, shotguns-deer rifles etc. That has seriously changed, black rifle sections have pretty much taken over some shops and prices have shot up but they still fly off the shelves.

I go in a local gun shop to look and talk to shooting buds. The last 5 days I was in someone was buying a self/home defense gun. I only stay about 15 minutes. Squirrel rifles and quail shot guns are not movers.

Doc44

PawDog
04-26-2012, 20:38
When someone changes their mind by which way the political winds blow, he should not be trusted.

Then I take it you don't trust Paul? He's done this numerous times in his political career....Supports Reagan, doesn't support Reagan, is a Republican, now a Liberaltarian, back to a Republican, supports illegal immigration bills, then suddenly doesn't support it as a border fence would "keep Americans in."

Holds hands with Barney Frank, one of the most extreme Socialist liberals in history, hires 14 "experts" to draft his and Franks "anti-war" bill, with 13 of the "experts" paid for by George Soros and moveon.org, etc.

I could write a 300 page novel on Paul's flip-flopping, and "changing his mind as the political wind blows." :faint:

DonGlock26
04-27-2012, 06:51
Everyone's getting stocked up for the Zimmerman acquittal celebrations, I see.


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aircarver
04-27-2012, 07:28
I don't suppose I'll be getting an AK for $239 again any time soon ....:whistling:

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JFrame
04-27-2012, 10:14
I don't suppose I'll be getting an AK for $239 again any time soon ....:whistling:

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I'll let you know as soon as I finish my time machine... :supergrin:


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frank4570
04-27-2012, 10:33
It has nothing to do with Romney.

Fear of an Obama second term is fueling the gun buying spree.

Yep. First it was " If Obama gets elected he is going to ban/take our guns." Didn't happen.
Now it is, " If Obama gets a second term he will have nothing to lose, and he will ban/take our guns."

JFrame
04-27-2012, 10:53
Yep. First it was " If Obama gets elected he is going to ban/take our guns." Didn't happen.
Now it is, " If Obama gets a second term he will have nothing to lose, and he will ban/take our guns."


Fortunately, subversive actions such as OF&F blew up in Obama and Holder's faces. SCOTUS decisions in D.C. and Chicago didn't help (though the FedGov did what it could to lend assistance to the antis).

Clearly, leftist agenda items such as nationalized health care, promoting racial and socioeconomic divisiveness, crushingly regulating non-favored industries into extinction, etc., have been occupying most of Obama's time this term.


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frank4570
04-27-2012, 11:32
Fortunately, subversive actions such as OF&F blew up in Obama and Holder's faces.

No doubt. If they had been able to scream from the rooftops about all the black rifles pouring into mexico, there may have been real trouble.

Cavalry Doc
04-27-2012, 12:30
No doubt. If they had been able to scream from the rooftops about all the black rifles pouring into mexico, there may have been real trouble.

Which is why a known bad is better than a probably bad.

QNman
04-27-2012, 12:41
It's no longer a Paul vs Romney debate, guys. It has become a Romney vs Obama debate. I don't like it either, but it wasn't left up to me. Pretending there is no difference between the two is a primary commercial and disingenuous.

Pick a side. Pick the better side, wherever you feel that side is.