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04-26-2012, 17:29
I've owned a few 1911's in the past but got them on trades. So today I bought my first one outright. I paid 600 for a springfield a1 milspec. It came with 5 mags all the original springfield gear and a crappy bianchi canvas holster. It shows some wear but nothing major. So how'd I do?

04-26-2012, 17:49
$600 is a great price for a Springer mil-spec GI! :thumbsup:

The GI modelas are VERY hard to find these days

Jason D
04-26-2012, 17:58
It's a tad on the high side considering I paid 584 for a new stainless GI late last year.
This gun should have been around 500 or so, but they are hard to find and you did get 60 dollars worth of Wilson magazines. That last stainless magazine I am not sure of maybe PSI ACT.

What did the Bianchi holster look like?
If it were one of the nylon military flap holsters. They are quite expensive.

04-26-2012, 18:10
Well around here prices are pretty crazy right now. I looked on buds and they had em for 604 but were sold out. As for the holster just a crappy bianchi.
That other magazine doesn't have any markings besides GCC stamped on the left side.

04-26-2012, 18:27
Congrats on your new 1911!

Jason D
04-26-2012, 18:29
Ah yes, the good old Bianchi Acu-mold. They are a half way decent cheap holster that retailed for around 30 bucks

At least one of the blued magazines is probably factory. Some are marked, some are not. Some magazines that came with my older Loaded models were ACT magazines from Italy. They are good quality.

My GI only came with one. It was unmarked other than a Pat. number on the follower.
I traced that back to Checkmate Industries.

I would say that 600 for your gun with a 30 dollar holster, 60 dollars worth of Wilson magazines and better than factory grips. You probably paid a fair price for a gun that is hard to find nowadays. I don't know who made the grips, but I like them. I don't have any idea who would have made a GCC marked magazine. You may be able to find a maker by looking at a Brownells catalog. They have several magazines sold under different names that are all from the same maker. It looks like an PSI ACT magazine but at the very least should have been marked ACT.

04-26-2012, 18:34
I am thinking about a full length gide rod and extended grip safety. However I've seen pics of some and there is a gap. Anyone know if there is a specific model for this gun?

04-26-2012, 18:42
The Bianchi Accu-Mold is made out of compressed foam material. It's a pretty decent economical holster. In its condition, probably worth maybe $20 at most. Used Wilson mags are probably about the same.

Anyway, congrats on the new toy. However, why do you want a full length guide rod? Guns with full length guide rods have function issues a lot more than guns without. Not to mention it's more of a pain in the ass to disassemble and reassemble.

04-26-2012, 19:07
Purely aesthetics... This will not be a daily carry. More for "special"occasions...

04-26-2012, 19:13
I think you did pretty well. A little honest ware on a gun from use isn't a big deal, just adds character to it.
You can either shoot it "as is" or use it as a good, solid base to mod into something with a few more "bells and whistles", either way you can't beat a good S.A. 1911a1. Congrats.

Bill Keith
04-27-2012, 08:26
You did good. Shoot the snot out of it, I would advice not getting a full length guide rod. When you get tired of the ratty finish after a few years of it banging around, send it off to W T Birdsong's outfit and get the Black T treatment (Mr Birdsong has passed away but his company is still going in Florence, AL).

04-27-2012, 08:53
Not a bad price. The cost of ammo will be more. Shoot the snot out of it.

Troubled Gecko
04-27-2012, 19:05
What ya got there is a Springfield GI model (not Mil-Spec). The Mil-Spec has 3 dot sights, slanted slide serrations, lowered flared ejection port and beveled mag well.

The GI model is closer to the M1911A1 GI model our troops (like myself carried). $600.00 good? bad? depends where ya live. I paid $579.00 + tax 3 yrs ago in NY for my GI model (new).

The grips may not be original as the latest GI models have US on the grip centered between the grip screws. I didn't care for the look and swapped mine out for dbl diamond like yours.

If the sights are too small send only the slide to Springfield and have them install the Mil-Spec 3 dot sights (much better). Springfields lifetime warranty is transferrable so your gun is guaranteed for life if you have any issues, their customer service is great!

Good luck with your GI model and have fun shooting it! Congrad's

04-27-2012, 20:15
What Troubled Gecko said. Nice pick up but that is not a Mil Spec.

04-27-2012, 20:43
Very nice looking 1911, Congrats!

04-27-2012, 20:46
Ahh thanks gecko... Do you know if it would accept novak style sights?

04-27-2012, 20:52
Congrats on a great 1911! :thumbsup:

04-27-2012, 22:35
I've owned a few 1911's in the past but got them on trades. So today I bought my first one outright. I paid 600 for a springfield a1 milspec. It came with 5 mags all the original springfield gear and a crappy bianchi canvas holster. It shows some wear but nothing major. So how'd I do?

Ya did great man ! Any time ya buy a M1911 ya did great. Enjoy it ! ;)


04-27-2012, 22:38
Heh thanks CM I will!

04-28-2012, 00:23
Congrats! on the springer.


04-28-2012, 07:11
nice purchase for sure...
if you go with a full length guide rod youll end up using a bushing wrench for take down...
which is no big deal...
it looks like there is two wilson mags in there as well...hell thats like $80 right there...

04-28-2012, 07:30
Nice score.


04-28-2012, 08:03
Nice looking GI.

04-28-2012, 08:25
Thanks all. A few years ago I traded my springfield mil spec that was nicely upgraded. I so wanted to recreate that pistol but couldn't find one locally. So I'm going the next best thing route... here's a pic of that beauty...

04-28-2012, 08:37
Congrats ! Sweet gun. ;)

04-28-2012, 10:26
I do dig the lanyard loop. I don't know why, probably nostalgia.

Troubled Gecko
04-28-2012, 16:04
Ahh thanks gecko... Do you know if it would accept novak style sights?

No it will not at this point, the cut in the slide is different (too small). If you send your slide to Novak they'll cut the bigger dovetail and install them for ya. I'm thinking Springfield custom shop would be able to do this as well becuase many of their model come with Novak installed.

*Note: Ask them how they address the removal of the parkerized finish in the new dovetail cut area. I don't know if they cold blue, re-parkerize or leave it bare.

Troubled Gecko
04-28-2012, 16:17
I am thinking about a full length gide rod and extended grip safety. However I've seen pics of some and there is a gap. Anyone know if there is a specific model for this gun? Smith & Alexander make the the proper radius (.220) for Springfield's but they are not drop in parts and need to be fitted. They have a jig available (about $20.00) to help with fitting. If you call them they are very helpful/friendly and may give you some idea of what to expect.

The gap ya see on some Springfields are from mod's using the wrong radius cut beavertail or just improper fitting.

NOTE: You'll have to bob your exisiting hammer or replace it as the spur will hit the upsweep of the beavertail.

04-28-2012, 16:23
Ok thanks again gecko!

04-28-2012, 16:58
Well shoot I just ordered the guide rod /bushing, hammer and grip safety... Hopefully everything fits nicely.

Jason D
04-28-2012, 17:08
Ahh thanks gecko... Do you know if it would accept novak style sights?

The rear sight cut is a GI as in for USGI sights. Any sight made to fit a GI dovetail should fit. The problem is the front sight.

It is a staked on sight that is neither the small or large tenon sight. It is pretty much a proprietary sight. The good news is that you do have options still.

You can...

A. Send it back to SA and have them install their high profile three dot sights on the slide.

B. Find a large tenon front sight that matches a USGI dovetailed rear sight, and file it (the tenon) to fit. Then stake it on.

C. This also involves a trip to SA. Have them re-cut the rear dovetail and cut a dovetail for the front sight. Then you can have any sights you want.

The cheapest option is shoot the gun with the sights as they are now, followed by option A. Option C while making a more versatile weapon is the most costliest.

You really only need to send the slide back for all sight work, though you may want to consider sending the gun and having a match bushing fitted. The gun will be combat accurate now, but a well fit bushing will wring out some more accuracy.

04-28-2012, 17:24
Sounds like a hassle... I think I will be leaving the sights alone. Maybe I'll pick up some crimson trace grips.

Jason D
04-28-2012, 17:54
It all depends on if you like the sights on it or not.
Mine has the same sights and I don't mind them. I may someday with 70 year old eyes though.

04-28-2012, 18:27
The sights are not too bad if you have good eyes. The GI style guide rod is no less accurate than the full length. The SA GI as you have, has been discontinued though maybe only temporary. I would hold on to it as is if I were you. If you get hammer bite then a beaver tail safety would be worth it. 600 was a little steep but the market for them will catch up to what you paid soon. SA will honor the lifetime warranty even though you're not the original owner.

Jason D
04-29-2012, 16:19
One thing that we should take note of.

The GI or the Milspec both being good guns for the money are both forged. Forged frames and slides. The same price competitors all come with a cast lower. Not that that's a bad thing. Gunsmiths will be more than happy to work on a lower end Springfield. They make a great base guns for a custom job.

Personally I'll be leaving mine the way it is.
I have better guns but I dig the plain jane gun with none of the junk I don't want.

04-29-2012, 16:29
I've owned a couple 1911's with G.I. sights and I've always found it made it a bit easier to find the front sight if I opened up the rear sight notch just a bit with a needle file. Just be careful because if it's hitting straight you'll want to make sure to remove a little bit from each side of the sight notch to keep the front sight lined up right.
That being said, as a rule I always like something better then the G.I. sights if I have the option. IIRC I think I've seen sight upgrade options for the small tenon front sights before. Do a google on it and you might find a better set that'll fit into the dovetail and tenon you have now so you'll just need to get the front sight staked on and drift in the rear sight and you'll be good to go.

Here's a couple options that I looked up on the Midway site for ya'. They do have an adjustable rear sight but the front tenon is the proper narrow style.
I also found these at Brownell's if you want a fixed rear sight, they look pretty good and the price isn't too bad either.|Style_1=Narrow%20Tenon/Product/1911-AUTO-FIXED-SIGHT-COMBOS

04-29-2012, 16:55
10-8 has a really nice GI rear replacement.

Let me just say that this sight is very fast with a Trijicon or Gold front.

04-29-2012, 17:24
All right! Thanks guys.

05-11-2012, 16:10
Well I sold the GI. I put it up for trade but a guy offered 750.00 for it so I couldn't refuse.:supergrin: I found a Mil Spec model for 700.00 and picked it up. It has some wear and a cracked grip, but almost all the upgrades I wanted. Now I just gotta pick out which VZ grips I want!!!

Jason D
05-12-2012, 16:55

Not to be a dick or anything, but are you sure the buyer wasn't Nigerian?
Sending you a check for 5K and asking you to wire the extra somewhere.

05-12-2012, 20:12
Ha! Nope cash in hand. I told him if he could find another one he might be able to get a better price, but he wanted it now!

05-12-2012, 21:24
Congrats! Are you gonna leave it as is, or send it out for custom work? You have one of the best base guns ever made. :cool:

05-12-2012, 23:25
Thanks! If you read my previous posts, I used to own one in stainless and loved it. As for custom work, I'll get an extended guide rod and someday have it refinished. Other than that I think it's perfect.

07-12-2012, 14:59
Well I couldn't do it.... 65$ + S&H for some VZ's just didn't seem reasonable. So i did a little searching and came up with these....
Strike industries PX 09's At 12.95 + 4.95 S&H (on Amazon) I figuered that even if they sucked I would be out less than 20 bucks.

07-12-2012, 15:52
You get what you pay for, you want 20 dollar grips, you got um. Will they work, yeah. But you can't compare them to a nice set of VZ's. Your gun really did deserve VZ's.
Oh well, to each their own, enjoy!:wavey:

07-12-2012, 16:13
I know.... Hopefully when I have a little more spending money I'll make the upgrade, but these will do for now

Jason D
07-12-2012, 17:01
I would have said something along the lines of you being a cheap skate, but I ordered a pair of tan Hogues last night for just over 10 bucks.

I stuck a pair of the Hogue double diamond rubber grips on my Hardball gun a few weeks back. Pretty much because none of my wood grips would fit well without slipping around on the gun even with the grip screws tightened right down.

It's not that I despise rubber grips, I just despise black rubber on a blued or parked gun.
Anyway the black rubber grips fit well and didn't slide around. They also felt fairly aggressive without being tacky feeling. So I won't feel bad about putting a set of tan ones on my gun.

P.S. The most I have ever spent on a set of 1911 grips was 39.00 for a pair of Altamonts. For anyone that cares. MidwayUSA has lots of Hogue wood grips listed for under 30 bucks. A lot of them for just 19.99.

07-12-2012, 17:26
I know.... Hopefully when I have a little more spending money I'll make the upgrade, but these will do for now
True, Congrats! nice gun.

Jason D
07-15-2012, 15:42
I also may have ordered a pair of the zombie grips.

07-15-2012, 17:44
My eyes... My eyes!

07-15-2012, 18:15
:rofl::puking:My eyes... My eyes!
( needs skulls.)

Jason D
07-15-2012, 18:49
My eyes... My eyes!

Yeah, they are different.
Just weird enough looking to be cool. My camera though tended to wash the color though, they look brighter then they really are. Not much brighter though, just a bit.

They are pretty much the standard hogue rubber grip though, nothing really special. I do believe you can get nylon grips with a scull, or aluminum grips with the bio hazard logo.

01-07-2013, 10:01
I just figured out my springfield has an undercut trigger guard... I'm pleasantly surprised!