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Jitterbug
04-28-2012, 07:39
I'm thinking of trying some of their sample packs of 165, 180 and 200 grain FMJ's.

Has anyone tried any of these?

Meathead9
04-28-2012, 08:17
I bought 3K of their 9mm 124gr JHP's (2K left), and they are top notch bullets. I ended up buying my 10mm bullets from Roze Dist. PD doesn't make 180gr JHP's, and the ZERO's aren't much more expensive ($3 more per K, $125 per K if you buy 2K+). I have read a lot of reports on PD's bullets, and it has all been good. Tons of USPSA/IDPA guys are shooting a lot of them, and again everything I've seen has been positive.


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orangeride
04-28-2012, 13:39
I've shot several thousand 180 fmj through my g20. I really like them. I had switched to 125imi cause there cheap, but looks there on long term back order so I just orderd more precesion delta's. I've got a ton of load data for the 180 PD. just let me know if your interested.

SDGlock23
04-30-2012, 16:07
I've tried and have a bunch of the 180gr FMJ and I've never had a problem. Good price on jacketed ammo. The profile of the bullet is somewhat rounded, but they still punch holes.

WeeWilly
04-30-2012, 19:09
So far, I have only shot a few thousand PD 180gr FMJ's through my G20SF, no complaints.

I have shot 10's of 1000's of PD 9's and .45's, never a complaint. They seem to have more calibers and weights on backorder lately, but I have never waited for than a few weeks, even for back ordered items.

JPP
04-30-2012, 20:23
they are good, I like the ones I have loaded and shot

ALBin517
05-01-2012, 06:15
PD is usually good at saying how long their backorder is. Last month I ordered some 9mm 124 JHP and they said "3+ weeks." They shipped 23 days after I ordered.

Jitterbug
05-01-2012, 07:49
Thanks guy's

I'm going to give them a try, I need some FMJ's for 9mm, 10mm and .45acp. Seems to me the price is somewhat comparable to what I've been paying for cast bullets.

gofastman
05-05-2012, 00:38
Im down to a couple hundred out of a 1000box of the 165fmj's
Nothing really significant to report, but that's probably good.

I'd buy more, but I plan on casting my own for target stuff pretty soon.
I just wish they had a TMJ bullet, and a 155gr offering.

attrapereves
05-23-2012, 23:27
I use PD 180gr bullets in my range ammo. I've never had any problems. However, like one poster noted above, the nose of the bullet is somewhat rounded.

dvrdwn72
05-26-2012, 18:07
I use pd in 90% of my .40 loads. I've fired thousands in Uspsa, steel, and idpa. I never had an issue. I plan to use pd when I start 10mm reloading.

Turo
05-26-2012, 19:53
I just started reloading a couple months ago, and have used about 500 of 1k 180gr PD bullets. So far I've just used them for .40S&W, but my new Glock 20 gets here Tuesday, so I'll be loading for that using the other 500. I really like them and I haven't had any issues with them so far. I have loaded them with a slightly heavy crimp, and they cut into the jacket a bit, but it hasn't seemed to matter for me.

dvrdwn72
05-26-2012, 20:07
what are you crimping them at?

dm1906
05-26-2012, 20:29
Pardon the interruption.....

I've never used PD, but could be interested. Are the FMJ's really FMJ's? Or, are they plated like some others claim to be FMJ's (which aren't). TMJ's are plated. Some are good (and expensive, comparatively), and the others don't hold up to 10mm velocities (Berry's speed limit is about 1050 FPS). Very good for .40's and plinkers, though.

WeeWilly
05-26-2012, 21:20
Pardon the interruption.....

I've never used PD, but could be interested. Are the FMJ's really FMJ's? Or, are they plated like some others claim to be FMJ's (which aren't). TMJ's are plated. Some are good (and expensive, comparatively), and the others don't hold up to 10mm velocities (Berry's speed limit is about 1050 FPS). Very good for .40's and plinkers, though.

They are real FMJ, exposed base and all (except their new 124gr JHP in 9mm, where the base is enclosed).

dm1906
05-27-2012, 00:42
They are real FMJ, exposed base and all (except their new 124gr JHP in 9mm, where the base is enclosed).
Thanks. I may have to get a closer look.

Turo
05-27-2012, 15:55
what are you crimping them at?

I'm not quite sure what you are asking. I just used the bullet seat/crimp LEE die and crimped it enough that it wouldn't cause setback after the round was chambered a few times. I can take a picture if you'd like, but it's really hard to see the crimp. I guess I could pull a bullet and show the cut in the jacket, would that work?

Taterhead
05-27-2012, 19:57
I'm not quite sure what you are asking. I just used the bullet seat/crimp LEE die and crimped it enough that it wouldn't cause setback after the round was chambered a few times. I can take a picture if you'd like, but it's really hard to see the crimp. I guess I could pull a bullet and show the cut in the jacket, would that work?

This is a little bit off topic Turo, but since you mentioned being new (welcome to loading for the 10mm, by-the-way), I thought I'd jump in with some quick points about crimping.

Pulling a bullet is a good idea. If there is a cut in the jacket, then too much crimp is being applied. The point is to iron out the bell such that it feeds properly in your chamber without engraving the bullet. This is especially critical for bullets with thin plating like Berry's or Rainier. The diameter if my case mouths after crimping is typically about 0.422-0.423".

There is a common misconception that setback control is a function of the amount of taper crimp applied. Setback control is a function of neck tension. That is determined by the interaction between a properly re-sized case and bullet bearing surface. You can feel neck tension when seating the bullet. Neck tension will decrease after several reloads due to work-hardening of the brass. Crimping to the point of engraving the bullet is counter-productive. It re-sizes the bullet to a smaller diameter at the case mouth.

Turo
05-27-2012, 20:23
You are absolutely right Tater, I measured a couple .40 reloads with the jacket cuts, and they were something like .418 inches while my properly set 10mm were right around .421-.422. Thanks for the info, and sorry for the threadjack everybody. Now back to your regularly scheduled thread :D.