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BigMoosie
05-02-2012, 17:41
What's the crispest feeling trigger on the market for Glocks. Any views? I'm looking for something in the 3.5lb-4lb range.

Thanks

JBP55
05-02-2012, 18:15
I have tried all the connectors available and I like a nice smooth fairly light trigger. I have done quite a few Glock triggers and people like them but are they crisp? I need a good definition of crisp. Is the trigger on a stock Glock, Vanek, Glocktriggers, Glockworx crisp?

cciman
05-02-2012, 18:37
Factory stock connector will give you the "crispest" most defined trigger break. Not in the 4# range that you want.

Any lightening of the trigger by connector change will also blunt the feel of the trigger break by some extent.

ron59
05-02-2012, 19:26
After at LEAST you're seventh trigger thread... you're still asking?


What's the crispest Glock trigger on the market? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1419045)
Anyone try the Skimmer trigger? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418839)
Tiggers like the Skimmer that don't compromise the drop safety? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418938)
How do you reduce the forward trigger travel after the reset? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1409512)
What aftermarket trigger options are there for the 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401828)
Best aftermarket Glock triggers (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401219)
Best aftermarket trigger for the Glock 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1342092)

Yes, those are ALL threads started by *you*.

Try a Ghost Rocket kit with springs and be done with. It's cheap and has a great feel. But dude... sad. Just sad.

Butch
05-02-2012, 20:29
What's the crispest feeling trigger on the market for Glocks.
The 'cleanest/crispest' Glock trigger break is obtained by using a coil trigger spring with a '+' connector....but you have to have man muscles in your trigger finger, it breaks at around eight pounds. I used one for about 20 years, and won a lot of matches with it.

stolenphot0
05-02-2012, 20:55
Light and crisp, go with the Glockworx Zev Competition Spring Kit http://www.glockworx.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=156033&CAT=3688


and add the their ZEV Tech Titanium Firing Pin Safety http://www.glockworx.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=156048&CAT=3689

with a Ghost Ranger 4.5# connector http://www.ghostinc.com/category/45lbranger/


This will yield a light trigger. smooth and soft break. So soft you will double tap if you're not careful. I did this setup in my 23 and DID NOT like it that light. But you may.

Brad55102
05-02-2012, 22:06
This killed me.
way to call him out


After at LEAST you're seventh trigger thread... you're still asking?


What's the crispest Glock trigger on the market? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1419045)
Anyone try the Skimmer trigger? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418839)
Tiggers like the Skimmer that don't compromise the drop safety? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418938)
How do you reduce the forward trigger travel after the reset? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1409512)
What aftermarket trigger options are there for the 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401828)
Best aftermarket Glock triggers (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401219)
Best aftermarket trigger for the Glock 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1342092)

Yes, those are ALL threads started by *you*.

Try a Ghost Rocket kit with springs and be done with. It's cheap and has a great feel. But dude... sad. Just sad.

allegro
05-02-2012, 22:11
To be honest, I am not sure that given the geometry of the "striker-fire" Glock, a crisp trigger pull may not REALLY be possible. Yes we get it better with connectors and stuff, but "revolver crisp" is not really an option for our plastic wonders.

TxGlock9
05-02-2012, 23:56
^^ Ouch.. HAHAHAHAHA

Moose: you're just going to have to try them out just like the rest of us. Don't be skurred.

WarEagle 1
05-03-2012, 00:01
After at LEAST you're seventh trigger thread... you're still asking?


What's the crispest Glock trigger on the market? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1419045)
Anyone try the Skimmer trigger? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418839)
Tiggers like the Skimmer that don't compromise the drop safety? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418938)
How do you reduce the forward trigger travel after the reset? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1409512)
What aftermarket trigger options are there for the 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401828)
Best aftermarket Glock triggers (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401219)
Best aftermarket trigger for the Glock 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1342092)

Yes, those are ALL threads started by *you*.

Another one? http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s400/cane94/misc-jackie-chan.png

faawrenchbndr
05-03-2012, 00:04
Would be nice if someone figured out the search function,.....:whistling:

barth
05-03-2012, 04:41
I only have one Glock.
And experience with one aftermarket connector.

My Talo EXO gen 3 G27 didn't have a bad trigger to start with.
Very little creep, stacking or grittiness.
Maybe slightly mushy.

The Ghost Rocket 3.5 with factory springs lightened the break from ~6 to ~5 lbs.
Gave me an improved crisp, clean break and glassy feel.
Along with a substantially reduced over-travel and reset.

I'm very happy.
My gunsmith, and everyone else at the LGS where the connector was fitted,
were very impresses as well.
http://ghost-rocket.com/Holder.jpg

hotrodcummins12v
05-03-2012, 06:04
I don't think Glock and crisp go together too well. Sorry, its the truth. The only way to get crisper trigger pulls is a NY trigger spring, which adds lbs. If its for target and not carry, try the expensive fulcrum triggers with adjustable pretravel and a Ghost rocket. If you are worried about spending too much money, start with the cheapest parts, ie: plunger spring, 4 lb striker spring, and connector. That's less then $40 shipped. I did this and I love my trigger pull, but its not crisp, its like a sponge with a solid back wall.

Sub Club 828
1911 Club 828
Outdoor Hub Mobile

BigMoosie
05-03-2012, 07:41
After at LEAST you're seventh trigger thread... you're still asking?


What's the crispest Glock trigger on the market? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1419045)
Anyone try the Skimmer trigger? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418839)
Tiggers like the Skimmer that don't compromise the drop safety? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418938)
How do you reduce the forward trigger travel after the reset? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1409512)
What aftermarket trigger options are there for the 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401828)
Best aftermarket Glock triggers (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401219)
Best aftermarket trigger for the Glock 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1342092)

Yes, those are ALL threads started by *you*.

Try a Ghost Rocket kit with springs and be done with. It's cheap and has a great feel. But dude... sad. Just sad.

Hey Bubba, I'm new to Glocking and am trying to learn how to get the best out of these guns. While my posts might be repetitive in my experience if you ask the same question over and over again on these forums you get different responses from different groups of people. So I think each of my questions is valid.

ChicagoZman
05-03-2012, 07:54
My 1911s have the crispest (crispiest?) trigger break of any of my semi autos, but they are not Glocks. My S&W 19-3 also has a very crisp single action break, but it is also not a Glock.

Not sure you can get a truly crisp trigger break with a striker fired gun, nor am I necessarily seeking one. The best I've been able to achieve with one of my Glocks is my original Gen 2 23 with a standard connector and an old style NY1 trigger spring, but it increases trigger pull into the eight pound range (guessing here as I've never measured it).

Glockdude1
05-03-2012, 07:57
After at LEAST you're seventh trigger thread... you're still asking?


What's the crispest Glock trigger on the market? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1419045)
Anyone try the Skimmer trigger? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418839)
Tiggers like the Skimmer that don't compromise the drop safety? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418938)
How do you reduce the forward trigger travel after the reset? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1409512)
What aftermarket trigger options are there for the 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401828)
Best aftermarket Glock triggers (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401219)
Best aftermarket trigger for the Glock 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1342092)

Yes, those are ALL threads started by *you*.


:rofl:

ron59
05-03-2012, 08:20
Hey Bubba, I'm new to Glocking and am trying to learn how to get the best out of these guns. While my posts might be repetitive in my experience if you ask the same question over and over again on these forums you get different responses from different groups of people. So each of my questions is valid. You're obviously the type of person who derives some kind of pleasure from ridiculing newbies. You didn't have to respond to this post in the way you did, or at all. The fact that you obviously went to some effort to post it, I don't know who's sadder, you or me.

No, you do NOT need to ask the same question multiple times. On top of you asking them, multiple others have asked them.

Given the product names you have been given before in all these threads, you could have simply searched GT or Googled for more info.

I don't ridicule "newbies". If you had been on here for 15 years I would have said the same thing. I can see by the responses from my fellow posters that they feel the same way.

Lastly, I *answered* your question. You can go out and pay $200 or more for some of those trigger setups.
** OR **, for about $35 get this:
http://www.ghostinc.com/product/GHO_RTK/Rocket-Trigger-Kit-for-Glocks-GEN-1-4.html
You'll need a takedown tool and orange backplate.

If you don't know how to do a $0.25 trigger job, the *best* way to learn is buy the
Making Glocks Rock DVD from Midway
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/186832/american-gunsmithing-institute-agi-video-making-glocks-rock-dvd
for $40.

That $70 will get you a damn nice trigger, I consider it better than the Vanek trigger kit I paid well over $100 for.

Glock #2 will be even cheaper as you only have to buy the video once. So gun 2 is only $35.

ALL of this info would have been turned up by a search. I'm pretty sure I told you about the Ghost Rocket in one of your earlier threads. But no... you'd just rather start a new one. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

coclimber
05-03-2012, 08:27
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BigMoosie
05-03-2012, 08:28
No, you do NOT need to ask the same question multiple times. On top of you asking them, multiple others have asked them.

Given the product names you have been given before in all these threads, you could have simply searched GT or Googled for more info.

I don't ridicule "newbies". If you had been on here for 15 years I would have said the same thing. I can see by the responses from my fellow posters that they feel the same way.

Lastly, I *answered* your question. You can go out and pay $200 or more for some of those trigger setups.
** OR **, for about $35 get this:
http://www.ghostinc.com/product/GHO_RTK/Rocket-Trigger-Kit-for-Glocks-GEN-1-4.html
You'll need a takedown tool and orange backplate.

If you don't know how to do a $0.25 trigger job, the *best* way to learn is buy the
Making Glocks Rock DVD from Midway
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/186832/american-gunsmithing-institute-agi-video-making-glocks-rock-dvd
for $40.

That $70 will get you a damn nice trigger, I consider it better than the Vanek trigger kit I paid well over $100 for.

Glock #2 will be even cheaper as you only have to buy the video once. So gun 2 is only $35.

ALL of this info would have been turned up by a search. I'm pretty sure I told you about the Ghost Rocket in one of your earlier threads. But no... you'd just rather start a new one. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Ron, while you're obviously a Glock expert, there are other people on this forum who have an opinion to.

I installed a Ghost Rocket connector and did the 25 cent trigger job when I first got the gun, being a 1911 guy I'm not entirely satisfied with the trigger yet and hence my continued quest for something better. However I am quickly learning Glock triggers are a one of a kind and it's just a question of just accepting the fact and adjusting ones mindset to deal with the difference.

Thanks for your advice and to all the other posters who have responded to my post in a constructive way.

iDivideByZero
05-03-2012, 08:48
Most of these trigger parts are very very cheap (compared to other guns). You can experiment around with different setups, and when you figure out the right combination for your taste then you sell off the extra parts. The problem with your question is that "crispest" is VERY subjective. Like some people have said, in their opinions, there is NO crisp Glock trigger setup. Others have given other recommendations. What you should figure out from this is that you may have to try a few different setups, and go from there.

The reason people have ridiculed you for multiple posts on the same subject is that on any forum (gun, car, computer, etc.) there are questions specific to those forums that are asked over and over and over again by different people. On GT the two most common I see are "what night sights should I get?" or "what trigger setup should I get?" You didn't just post a repeat of this common question, you've literally already started seven threads on the subject. There are forums out there where this behavior gets you banned. The attitude is that the subject has been covered ad nauseam, and if you use the search feature you'll find all of the information that will be given is already contained in the archives. Sure some responses are going to vary ever so slightly, but the general overall information is the same.

On your original question: just get the Ghost Rocket. It may or may not be exactly what you are looking for, but it is a great place to start. You can always try swapping out some springs next. If you aren't comfortable installing the connector (watch a video online, there are tons out there) then take it to a gun smith. I had never done anything like this, and I was able to do it easily. I really liked how Ghost Inc. stands behind their product, was easily reachable for questions, and if you have a problem installing it (over grind the TCT) they will replace the connector no questions asked (you pay shipping there, they cover return shipping on the replacement).

The $0.25 trigger job is real easy to do also, just Google it (don't post another thread about it :rofl:). Both the trigger job and connector can be done at the same time, but I would recommend doing them separately so that you can appreciate the effect each one has on the gun.

Edit* it seems while I was posting this you were editing your last post, and you said you had already tried the Ghost Rocket and the $0.25 trigger job. So, basically every bit of advice I gave is worthless, and you just wasted 30 seconds of your life reading this ....

duppyman3
05-03-2012, 11:52
The connector plays the most important role in my opinion. The glock minus connector or an inexpensive Scherer Connector worked best for me. Stay away from connectors with any cut outs in them, they have felt gritty and not smooth when I would pull the trigger.

The closets your going to get a glock to a 1911 3.5 pound trigger besides replacing the connector is the springs. ZEV Tech competition lightened safety and spring, plus their 6lb trigger spring. Jager lightened striker and spring. And an overtravel stop. This setup won't address the pre-travel you will still get unlike a 1911.

ron59
05-03-2012, 12:08
I installed a Ghost Rocket connector and did the 25 cent trigger job when I first got the gun, being a 1911 guy I'm not entirely satisfied with the trigger yet and hence my continued quest for something better. .

Did you get the kit with the springs? Because they will decrease the pull an additional pound or so. I'm pretty sure my setup is close to 3 pounds. One shooting buddy has a Les Baer in .45ACP with about a 2lb trigger. I'm not there, but I'm not at 4 pounds I can tell you. If you didn't get the springs, just go to
http://www.cpwsa.com/Glock%20Parts.htm
and get the Wolff competition spring kit.

Also... if you did not STONE the parts, and didn't do all the appropriate parts in the correct places, you wouldn't get fully satisfactory results. For example, did you stone/polish the striker lug?

That DVD shows how to stone the parts, which ones and where. Well worth the money just for that, the rest of the info I mostly knew. With you being newer to Glocks, perhaps you can learn other stuff than the polishing job.

My trigger is not a 1911 trigger, and the pretravel is still there (not a concern for me), but i do think it is the best a Glock trigger can be for a whole lot less than most trigger kits on the market. My 3 shooting buddies agree as they now have their guns setup identically.

There's one dude on here (Duck of Death) who goes to even more detail with his trigger jobs, he claims sub 2 pounds I believe. He re-drills holes, etc, etc.... look up his posts.

BigMoosie
05-03-2012, 12:22
Did you get the kit with the springs? Because they will decrease the pull an additional pound or so. I'm pretty sure my setup is close to 3 pounds. One shooting buddy has a Les Baer in .45ACP with about a 2lb trigger. I'm not there, but I'm not at 4 pounds I can tell you. If you didn't get the springs, just go to
http://www.cpwsa.com/Glock%20Parts.htm
and get the Wolff competition spring kit.

Also... if you did not STONE the parts, and didn't do all the appropriate parts in the correct places, you wouldn't get fully satisfactory results. For example, did you stone/polish the striker lug?

That DVD shows how to stone the parts, which ones and where. Well worth the money just for that, the rest of the info I mostly knew. With you being newer to Glocks, perhaps you can learn other stuff than the polishing job.

My trigger is not a 1911 trigger, and the pretravel is still there (not a concern for me), but i do think it is the best a Glock trigger can be for a whole lot less than most trigger kits on the market. My 3 shooting buddies agree as they now have their guns setup identically.

There's one dude on here (Duck of Death) who goes to even more detail with his trigger jobs, he claims sub 2 pounds I believe. He re-drills holes, etc, etc.... look up his posts.

Thanks. the connector came with new springs which I swapped out. I'll check into stoning. The trigger is a lot better than what it was. I'm finding if I try to visualize the trigger break more as a rolling break and just pull through when I hit the wall it helps with accuracy. As I've posted before my groups have shrunk dramatically but I'm hoping to push it one stage further.

Picture of 10 shot group shot the other day offhand at 25 yards. Prior to the work I was lucky to keep them in the white 9 ring.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc6/Jess10x/DSC04726.jpg

Duck of Death
05-03-2012, 15:04
Look these over:

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=52311

http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549549&highlight=Duck+Death+trigger+job

DannyR
05-03-2012, 15:12
Kellog makes the crispiest trigger. It snaps, crackles and pops like no other.:wavey:

TSAX
05-03-2012, 15:31
Kellog makes the crispiest trigger. It snaps, crackles and pops like no other.:wavey:

:rofl:, I couldnt resist adding the video :supergrin:


Old Rice Krispies Commercial - YouTube










:50cal:

TSAX
05-03-2012, 15:50
^^ Ouch.. HAHAHAHAHA

Moose: you're just going to have to try them out just like the rest of us. Don't be skurred.

What he said................at the end of the day each will feel different to each person since were all so different. Not everyone will agree on whats the best/crispest/worst/etc, the lightest and heaviest can be gauged. For your question, trying out a few is your best bet. Asking for opinions is fine, hence one reason we have this site.

Your new and sometimes newbies get/take a little teasing/hazing/razing/flak, heck even some of the older guys take some flak from time to time. No real harm but if someone is attacking or harassing you (I dont think this was the case here so far) then report the person/post.

Good Luck :wavey:








:50cal:

sr975j
05-04-2012, 10:57
After at LEAST you're seventh trigger thread... you're still asking?


What's the crispest Glock trigger on the market? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1419045)
Anyone try the Skimmer trigger? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418839)
Tiggers like the Skimmer that don't compromise the drop safety? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418938)
How do you reduce the forward trigger travel after the reset? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1409512)
What aftermarket trigger options are there for the 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401828)
Best aftermarket Glock triggers (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401219)
Best aftermarket trigger for the Glock 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1342092)

Yes, those are ALL threads started by *you*.

Try a Ghost Rocket kit with springs and be done with. It's cheap and has a great feel. But dude... sad. Just sad.

lol this might be the best example of OWNING ive ever seen on the internet....very funny lol

Sam

KTM950S
05-07-2012, 18:11
What's the crispest feeling trigger on the market for Glocks. Any views? I'm looking for something in the 3.5lb-4lb range.

Why are you looking for the crispest feeling trigger in the 3.5lb-4lb range? What issues are you having with the stock trigger?

RM686
09-22-2012, 14:39
Hey Bubba, I'm new to Glocking and am trying to learn how to get the best out of these guns. While my posts might be repetitive in my experience if you ask the same question over and over again on these forums you get different responses from different groups of people. So I think each of my questions is valid.

Good for you BigMoosie. I have over 30 handguns and have been shooting 35 years. I bought my first Glock G19 4 Gen a week ago and the trigger sucks. After 200 rounds my finger was really sore and the gun was no fun to shoot. I can shoot it well but would not want to. I have seen a lot about 25 cent trigger job and getting a G17 trigger with a smooth face which I am going to try. If that does not work than I will try an aftermarket trigger.
There are no stupid questions and many ways to ask a question to get more information. So good for you for asking questions which provide slightly different answers. There is always new ionformation and products being intrduced so ask away.

DBR
09-22-2012, 18:26
This was mentioned earlier by Butch:

If you mean by "crisp" that the trigger breaks suddenly with little over travel, the best I have tried in my Glocks is the NY+ (8#) connecter (NOT the NY trigger spring) with a Wolff extra power trigger spring. It has a very "crisp" break and a VERY short reset.

When I tried it, it was about 5# but it could be made lighter with a reduced power striker spring which I do not recommend unless it is a game gun. Also, I was just testing different combos. The parts were not polished or worn in.

DakotaGlockGuy
10-05-2012, 22:22
I'm a HUGE trigger freak, too, so I know where you're coming from BigMoosie.

Here's what I did on my G30sf:

Parts:
Smooth Trigger (serrated is stock on the G30's)
Ghost Rocket with Dave Spaulding Cut (http://www.ghostinc.com/category/the_dave_spaulding_cut_for_glocks_with_rockets___tacticals/)
Reduced Power Safety Plunger Spring
Extra Power (#6) Striker AND Trigger Springs
Marine Spring Cups

Work:
Polish the entire Striker.
Polish the inside (using a Q-tip in a dremel tool) and outside (using Flitz on a patch) of the striker spring.
Stone and polish the sear of the striker, sear portion of the trigger bar (Do NOT change the angle, or dull the corners), the top of the trigger bar where it touches the safety plunger, the entire crufiform and contacting face of the connector.
Radius the stock safety plunger.
Change out the spring cups to the Marine cups and reassemble.

The stoning and polishing result in a very smooth trigger feel. The lighter connector and stronger trigger spring reduce the trigger pull, BUT the stronger (#6) striker spring adds a bit of pull and sharpens the reset.

hongster
10-06-2012, 00:47
The best way to get the "crispiest" trigger is to fry it twice in a deep fryer.

SouthpawG26
10-06-2012, 07:41
Here's what I did on my G30sf:

Parts:
Ghost Rocket with Dave Spaulding Cut (http://www.ghostinc.com/category/the_dave_spaulding_cut_for_glocks_with_rockets___tacticals/)

I like these connectors a lot, but I still get a chuckle from the nutty professor scientific explanations and the lingo in that link:supergrin:.

In short, by adding the DSC to the TCT on the TCC, and while fine tuning the GAT on that TCC, the TP can be optimized. Of course both QC and CS are excellent, on these products, and they come with a no BS LTG.

jbglock
10-06-2012, 09:06
After at LEAST you're seventh trigger thread... you're still asking?


What's the crispest Glock trigger on the market? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1419045)
Anyone try the Skimmer trigger? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418839)
Tiggers like the Skimmer that don't compromise the drop safety? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1418938)
How do you reduce the forward trigger travel after the reset? (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1409512)
What aftermarket trigger options are there for the 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401828)
Best aftermarket Glock triggers (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1401219)
Best aftermarket trigger for the Glock 17/19 (http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1342092)

Yes, those are ALL threads started by *you*.

Try a Ghost Rocket kit with springs and be done with. It's cheap and has a great feel. But dude... sad. Just sad.

:rofl:

To the OP, just start buying various setups. Glock stuff is easy to trade off or sell off if you have something you don't like. Buy two or three at a time, narrow down to your favorite, sell off the extras, then repeat.

Chesafreak
10-06-2012, 09:16
Are you looking for a trigger thats more suitable for competition, range, or carry?

If for carry, I recommend the Glocktriggers.com Guardian. The pull is 4.5 lbs, very smooth with a crisp break. It still has a little take up (their Skimmer has NO take up) no surprises but a good clean break. They use all factory parts, polished with a minus connector. Sure you can do-it-yourself, but I decided to use the Guardian drop in kit after reading on GT how others have induced unreliability through trial and error when DIY.

SCSU74
10-06-2012, 09:24
Stock gen 4 in my 17 :)


Sent from my iPhone... which probably auto-corrected something wrong

JasonC8301
10-06-2012, 17:09
Install a NY2 trigger spring and call it a day.

Want a nice trigger? Stick to 1911's.

A SUV will never drive like a 911 and as pointed out above stop trying to put a square peg into a round hole.

DakotaGlockGuy
10-17-2012, 13:28
The connector plays the most important role in my opinion. The glock minus connector or an inexpensive Scherer Connector worked best for me.

I've had great luck with the Glock "-" connector, but the Scherer connectors I've tried have caused the same "hitch" in racking the slide that the crappy Lone Wolf connectors do. These were also about TWICE as thick as a Ghost connector. I don't know if that is the norm, or I just got a weird batch though.

dakrat
10-17-2012, 13:32
bone stock and learn how to shoot the glock trigger goodness

F106 Fan
10-17-2012, 14:10
I started down the path of aftermarket trigger components and gave up. It will always be the case that the trigger has to cock the striker and therefore, there will always be creep in the trigger.

There are two approaches: You can have a more sloped connector which takes less force on the trigger to cock the striker but it increases the creep distance. The other approach will take more force and less distance. It will always be this way. You have to move the striker through a distance against a spring. It's the distance that causes creep.

Sure, spring rates can be changed, the striker replaced and so on but, at the end of the day, the trigger will always have creep. Heavy creep or light creep, it is still creepy.

Once I realized that my G21SF was NEVER going to have a trigger as nice as the one in my Colt Gold Cup, I put the factory parts back in the gun and that's the way it will stay. I shoot it well enough and I always thought of it as a combat weapon, not a target shooter. If I want to shoot 25 yards, I will use my S&W Model 52 with .38 hollow base wad cutters. Or my Gold Cup...

Richard

RM686
10-17-2012, 17:16
New gen 4 G19. Out of box shoots 1 1/2 groups at 10 meters. So far have 25 cent trigger job, tried 3.5 lone wolf connector, and Glock minus connector, 6 lb trigger spring. reshaped stock trigger with dremel. put in RYG Phantom trigger.
Installed Amerigo pro i dot night sights. Best trigger is stock 5 lb spring, - Glock connector, and RYG Phantom trigger. Nice 5 lb pull and crisp measured at bottom on trigger. Practically no pre travel and trigger reset 3/10 inch. Other combinations of connectors and springs mushy trigger. No real difference in pull weight maybe 1/4 of a lb.
Very nice flat comfortable adjustable trigger from RYG but 2 phone calls regarding tech support never returned and not impressed with customer support. Extra pin ordered for Gen 4 back straps was too short and to long for gun with no back strap. Threw it out. Not worth the returned postage to return it. From now on orders will be from Brownell's with Glock part numbers.
Going to the range tomorrow. If anyone is interested in an increase in accuracy because of new trigger and sights will post a report.
Dry fire and sight picture I am very happy with this gun.
Also I should mention I under cut the trigger guard to get rid of "Glock knuckle''. The trigger guard rubbing on my middle finger creating a blister just in front of the knuckle. The gun is extremely confortablable to hold and my fat fingers now fit in the groves without rubbing the trigger guard. Really feel like I have a custom pistol.
If I knew what I know now $200.00 in upgrades. Probably spent an extra $100 on other stuff, springs connectors triggers trial and error.
I actually went to a gunsmith for the trigger guard cut and he wanted me to sign a waver in case he ruin the gun. This guy is a certified glock armour, plus he didnt know what I was talking about. Glad I did all the work my self a little at a time.
All information to upgrade this pistol was learned from internet posts by guys just like you.

JBP55
10-17-2012, 18:02
RM686,
Glock Armorers are not taught how to alter Glock receivers.

RM686
10-17-2012, 19:06
RM686,
Glock Armorers are not taught how to alter Glock receivers.

Thats really too bad. If I can do it, it really is not very hard. In researching the after market in terms of the number of firms changing grips dimensions and textures there is obvious a need for this kind of service.
Even Hickcok45 on tube, a real Glock fan, radically undercuts his Glock trigger guards the whole length.
When I look at all my other guns Sig's, Brownings , all kinds of Revolvers and even Berattras , the trigger guards all sweep up at a curve so your middle finger never comes near them.
All I really saying is not to change the gun, I love the finger groves. Someone should come out with a few templates just for the bottom of the trigger guard. I used a 1/2 wooded dowel wrapped in different grits of sandpaper to change about 1/4 of an inch off 1/3 the length and rounded the edges. Now I have a gun I can shoot all day and it won't hurt my hand.
The Glock knuckle turns a lot of people to favor other firearms. They may not even be aware of why Glocks don't feel comfortable to them. I have so many guns that I could tell right after the first range session something was not right and I this was not a fun gun to shoot for me. I am glad I figured out what it was since if my accuracy is the same as it was out of the box, but I suspect better with the modifications I made, this may become one of my favorite pistols.

RM686
10-20-2012, 16:06
Range report on Phampton trigger.
Previous post I mentioned the changes made to my G19 Gen 4 the last being the addition of the RYG Phampton trigger. Trigger was smooth with little take up and 3/10 inch reset. With Glock "-" connector break was crisp at a little over 5 lbs measured at lowest part of the trigger.
After about 250 rounds the screw hold the safety lever in the trigger came lose and stopped the gun from functioning.
I called RYG and also emailed them the next day. Lucky I got a response to my email telling me to use blue locktite on the trigger screw and to contact them if this does not work. This will be just another thing to keep checking if I carry this gun. If it comes lose again I will use red locktite or just get rid of the trigger. For $100.00 very disappointed with the reliability factor of this trigger. Also after using the blue locktite the next day I could trun the screw with out much resistence. I did not shake it up before I used it the first time so that may be my fault. I reappplied it again today and will see how it works out.

glockin-45
10-20-2012, 17:21
Thanks. the connector came with new springs which I swapped out. I'll check into stoning. The trigger is a lot better than what it was. I'm finding if I try to visualize the trigger break more as a rolling break and just pull through when I hit the wall it helps with accuracy. As I've posted before my groups have shrunk dramatically but I'm hoping to push it one stage further.

Picture of 10 shot group shot the other day offhand at 25 yards. Prior to the work I was lucky to keep them in the white 9 ring.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc6/Jess10x/DSC04726.jpg
I'm a self defence guy not a bullseye shooter. Great shooting.:cool:

4-Fun
10-20-2012, 18:48
I'm a self defence guy not a bullseye shooter. Great shooting.:cool:

+1. I'm a long way from that at 25 yards.

I guess I'm a little different in my thinking toward Glocks. I like the trigger!! It's not that I like it better than a tuned 1911, or a smoooth S&W revolver. It's the fact that of the 8 I have owned, the triggers have been consistent. Only the ones that have several thousand rounds through them do the triggers have a smoother feel. But not that different.
Glocks are just one pistol design that I'm content to leave be.

tango44
10-20-2012, 19:30
What's wrong with the stock one?
:whistling:

TheGlockTalker
10-20-2012, 19:36
I think the original is quite crisp. I've used Ghost and it's also crisp.
But I honestly don't think there's anything wrong with the original.

bigtimelarry
10-20-2012, 21:40
Vanek Classic Kit..