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TGT
05-02-2012, 22:53
What's the smallest .45 you own that has worked reliably for you?

I find myself carrying my Kahr stainless MK9 instead of my .40 cal Glock 27 because the slimmer profile of the Kahr wins me over. Both are 100% reliable. But, for the extra stopping power of a .45 I can settle for a bigger framed gun.



EDIT; I just can't understand why NONE of the the big players would offer a 2 finger grip C&S style 1911 like THIS for under $3,300!!
http://www.cylinder-slide.com/media/ccp0/prodlg/CS00053lg.jpg I don't think it would take a marketing genious to recognize a consumer demand for it.

davesretired1
05-02-2012, 23:27
G30. Most accurate too!

faawrenchbndr
05-02-2012, 23:42
SIS Ultra.......

gumbee
05-03-2012, 01:00
30sf.

Nakanokalronin
05-03-2012, 01:39
Two Kimber Ultra Carry IIs

amd65
05-03-2012, 02:40
G30! Of course.

Psychman
05-03-2012, 04:46
G30sf here also. Great gun.

seanmac45
05-03-2012, 05:01
Kimber Classic Custom 5" purchased in 1998. Was so reliable I had it built up by Novak's as my main carry pistol for my retirement. It's been my constant companion for 10 years now and has never let me down.

WinterWizard
05-03-2012, 06:28
G36. NEVER had an issue.

majette
05-03-2012, 06:36
full size usp .45
springfield pro

i dont carry or own anything less than full size. proper gun belt and holster variety plus dressing appropriately for carry expands my choices, not limit them.

glock2740
05-03-2012, 08:03
I've never had any issues with either of my Kimber Ultra sized guns (stainless Ultra Raptor and stainless Ultra Carry II) or my RIA 3.5". Of course my G30 has been 100% as well. My Kimber Ultra Carry II that was worked over by Chuck Rogers is my most accurate. One of my best 50 yard groups ever came from that little babydoll. :cool:

ca survivor
05-03-2012, 09:43
in a 1911, Colt Defender.

Hogpauls
05-03-2012, 10:13
G30! Of course.

This^

jtull7
05-03-2012, 10:28
Kimber Pro Carry

fnfalman
05-03-2012, 10:30
HK USPC45. Feeds everything under the sun, drives tight groups...a bit big though.

The 1991A1 Compact...I haven't shot enough hollowpoints through it to be convinced yet.

plouffedaddy
05-03-2012, 11:11
In 1911 platform:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/tiffani33/Guns/IMAG0582.jpg

Other platforms:

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/tiffani33/Guns/IMAG0770.jpg

countrygun
05-03-2012, 11:24
A touchy subject to be sure. My wife and I each have a Taurus, hers is an older Millenium and I have the Pro 24/7 compact, that have never failed with the exception of not liking CCI aluminum cases. Yes I said reliable Tauri.

My Kimber compact has never failed, and I would like to get another 100 flawless rounds throught the wife's Kimber Ultra Raptor II before I brag about it. I never thought a 1911 reduced that much would actually work and I told my wife as much when she brought it home. So far she is laughing well.

South Fla
05-03-2012, 11:28
HK USP.45c

countrygun
05-03-2012, 11:35
I hear good things about the Bond Arms Deringers. Can't get much smaller than that.

prez1967
05-03-2012, 12:27
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn89/prez1967/G361.jpg

Both are 100% and rock and roll

Road Dog
05-03-2012, 13:53
Kimber stainless UC
G36
G30

PlasticGuy
05-03-2012, 16:33
Colt CCO. Everything smaller that I have ever owned/tried was too finicky for defensive use.

matt_lowry123
05-03-2012, 16:40
Kahr PM45

Jason D
05-03-2012, 16:51
Commander.
Wouldn't go smaller.

SauerChoi
05-03-2012, 16:54
doh, didn't read it was 45 only. the most realiable was my SA GI Compact. didn't own it very long but it was very reliable.

limbkiller
05-03-2012, 16:54
This.
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee457/limbkiller/DSC00559.jpg

JK-linux
05-03-2012, 16:56
.....

TonyT
05-03-2012, 19:21
What's the smallest .45 you own that has worked reliably for you?

I find myself carrying my Kahr stainless MK9 instead of my .40 cal Glock 27 because the slimmer profile of the Kahr wins me over. Both are 100% reliable. But, for the extra stopping power of a .45 I can settle for a bigger framed gun.
I purchased a Glock-36 shortly after they were iontroduced and carried it for a number of years. I still have the pistol either aat home or in the car. It was very controlable and reliable. Currently I would also investigate the Kahr 45ACP pistols. I now carry a Kahr PM-9 in a pocket holster.

bwvan
05-03-2012, 20:00
Colt Officer's Model, single recoil spring, Wilson sear and hammer; highly polished feed ramp

Lockback
05-03-2012, 20:05
Glock G36. Simply amazingly accurate & reliable.

Rodman24
05-03-2012, 20:16
Never a problem with my Kimber Tac Ultra II
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JD_19x9
05-03-2012, 20:20
Ruger SR1911 and Glock 30

TGT
05-03-2012, 23:00
Well gents, it looks like nothing new has come out in the last couple of years since I last looked at a Glock 36. I guess that is about as small and reliable a package that I can get in a .45.

I carry my pistols via a clip in my wasteband. In Houston, Texas heat and humidity, it's not easy to conceal larger pistol grips.

It's a shame that the kimber people are so stubborn. I called them many years ago to compliment them about the short slide length, but ask them why the grip is disproportionately long. The man on the other end of the phone ademently told me that they would never shorten the grip length. I think they would do well to take a cue from the Glock sized grip. Too bad the Para P-10 is such an unreliable pistol. That's the size I'd like.

Thanks for the input gentlemen.

stumpjumper
05-04-2012, 03:43
I have a Colt New Agent and Defender Plus (both 3")and they have both been 100% with the proper mags.

AWMP
05-04-2012, 05:52
S&W 1911SC E Series and M&P 45

jb1911
05-04-2012, 06:14
My 1991A1 has been ultra-reliable since I got it almost 20 years ago.





http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7154/6762768697_c2fda625ac_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7008/6814731215_91e1b44108_z.jpg

ldmtulsa
05-04-2012, 06:37
Glock 36

glock2740
05-04-2012, 06:51
It's a shame that the kimber people are so stubborn. I called them many years ago to compliment them about the short slide length, but ask them why the grip is disproportionately long. The man on the other end of the phone ademently told me that they would never shorten the grip length.

The Kimber Ultra models are true officer sized frames. No different than any other officer sized frame.

TGT
05-04-2012, 10:52
The Kimber Ultra models are true officer sized frames. No different than any other officer sized frame.

While your facts are objective, it still doesn't address why most 1911 manufacturers refuse to give us the option of a 2 finger short grip like as with the Para P10, and many Glock pistols. (too bad the P10 is fat and also doesn't work) As a civilian in a hot climate who can't wear anything that reveals a pistol grip profile under my shirt, the two-finger hold on my Kahr MK40 or Glock 27 will serve me a lot better then say a pistol with a 4 finger grip that stays home. The technical challenges for the manufacturers is with shortening the slide. Now that they have passed that hurdle long ago, I wish they would start working on the easy stuff like providing a shorter grip!....Jeeeeze. Like I've said, Glock has set that standard very well, and I don't think it's such an unreasonable request for a 1911 carry gun either.

JB 1911, or anybody else;

Would you please tell me what gun that short gripped .45 is pictured on the far left of that above photo.

EDIT: Ooops....just realized that gun in the picture probably isn't a 45 cal.

2-8 Marine
05-04-2012, 12:40
Today, the only .45 I own is a full sized, Springfield, GI, but back about 25 years ago I had a .45 Star PD. It was fairly reliable - certainly reliable enough that I felt secure carrying it. I'd say its main feature though was its concealability. For the time, it was quite small and hid away nicely. I eventully sold it though for a much bigger but better brush nickel, Colt Combat Commander. Unfortunately, I sold that too. Wish I had it today.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UJpp9pUXG7U/SNjzRo4Gu-I/AAAAAAAAANA/8JP9c_vwteY/s400/star-pd.jpg

http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/thumb/9/99/ColtCombatCommanderSS.jpg/400px-ColtCombatCommanderSS.jpg

glock2740
05-04-2012, 14:09
While your facts are objective, it still doesn't address why most 1911 manufacturers refuse to give us the option of a 2 finger short grip like as with the Para P10, and many Glock pistols. (too bad the P10 is fat and also doesn't work) As a civilian in a hot climate who can't wear anything that reveals a pistol grip profile under my shirt, the two-finger hold on my Kahr MK40 or Glock 27 will serve me a lot better then say a pistol with a 4 finger grip that stays home. The technical challenges for the manufacturers is with shortening the slide. Now that they have passed that hurdle long ago, I wish they would start working on the easy stuff like providing a shorter grip!....Jeeeeze. Like I've said, Glock has set that standard very well, and I don't think it's such an unreasonable request for a 1911 carry gun either.


If you really want a thin, short gripped .45, then you might as well go with the G36, a Kahr or the XDS, because I would doubt that there will be a 1911 with a shorter grip than an officer sized frame coming out anytime soon. :dunno:

Rick O'Shay
05-04-2012, 16:19
G36. Sweeeeeeet!

cowboywannabe
05-04-2012, 16:37
ive owned a G30, G36, 1911s from Colt and the Filipines, and the only two to run 100% right out of the box from day one were the G30 and the RIA G.I. full size 1911. everything else choked at some point for minor things.

flynlead
05-04-2012, 16:50
Kimber ultra carry has had zero failure since new close to a thousand rounds

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goosem36
05-04-2012, 16:53
G36. Love to carry and to shoot it.

Wetrudgeon
05-04-2012, 19:50
Glock G36. 100%. Also had a Kimber tactical ultra for a time that was nearly 100%. It was the other 2-3% that we did not care for.

We trudge on.

HAIL CAESAR
05-04-2012, 20:22
Smallest 45 that was utterly reliable??

M&P 45C.

TGT
05-04-2012, 23:00
Well thanks again guys. I see some of the same gun names and models coming up over and over, and now have a good consensus from you.

But what!! Nobody recommending an AMT 45 back-up? LOL

swinokur
05-05-2012, 05:34
Glock 30 or DW CCO

GLOCK17DB9
05-05-2012, 05:48
G36. Great gun!:supergrin:

jb1911
05-05-2012, 06:18
JB 1911, or anybody else;

Would you please tell me what gun that short gripped .45 is pictured on the far left of that above photo.

EDIT: Ooops....just realized that gun in the picture probably isn't a 45 cal.

It's a Beretta Nano, 9mm.

oldsoldier
05-05-2012, 15:43
A Colt Defender was my smallest 1911. I didn't care for the aluminum frame and now I carry a Baer Stinger which has a 4.25" barrel and an Officer's length grip. It's a nice trade off for reliability and size or so it seems to me anyway.

fnfalman
05-05-2012, 16:02
Anybody remember the Colt Commanding Officers Model?

pezzulli
05-05-2012, 17:09
LW Colt Officers ACP with Ashley 24/7 Big Dot Tritium sights.
Internet complaints notwithstanding: RELIABLE, small, light, very fast handling, and packs a big punch.

Just make sure that you put in a stronger recoil plug (e.g., EGW, Clark) and change out the recoil springs frequently (i.e., 500 rounds).

HTH,
John

tnhawk
05-05-2012, 18:15
My Kimber Ultra CDP II has been reliable and accurate for the few years I've owned it.

Officer's Match
05-05-2012, 19:37
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/sly250r/G39/IMG_0217.jpg

Deployment Solu
05-05-2012, 19:43
Kahr CW45 and of course, my G36/G30 SF hybrid!!!!!

captcurly
05-05-2012, 21:34
My Glock 36, since 2002 and still carrying it.

Walk Soft
05-05-2012, 21:40
For me, it's a G30.

MNBud
05-06-2012, 09:09
It would have to be my Glock SF30 or Springfield Micro compact.225028

VanguardMP
05-06-2012, 10:21
Kimber Ultra Crimson Carry II and a G30SF.

VMP

Jack23
05-06-2012, 14:18
Glock G36. Simply amazingly accurate & reliable.

This ^. Got mine in June 2008 and have exactly 3,950 rounds through it. (yes I keep shooting logs.) I also have a G-21 and the 36 is every bit as accurate despite the shorter sight radius.

RevDerb
05-06-2012, 14:54
As of this writing, a G30SF.

isuzu
05-06-2012, 16:37
Commander here, too.

tuica
05-06-2012, 17:17
Para P10-45, Glock G36 & G39. Cheers.

shooter1911
05-06-2012, 20:18
I love my 1911s so I tried a Colt Defender for my carry gun, but it just didn't meet my reliability criteria. I don't know why, but neither did my Commander. I read about a lot of folks who say their 3" 1911s are very reliable, and when they have a FTF they always say it was the ammo, magazine, or limp wrist.:shocked:

I have found a carry gun, other than my full size 1911 or my S&W 340PD, that meets my reliability criteria which is going bang 100% of the time. That gun is the M&P 45C pictured below. I have removed the thumb safeties by the way.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz316/myanof/DSCN1003.jpg

TGT
05-06-2012, 22:44
Was at the gun show yesterday. Impressed with the tiny Kahr PM45 is. I marveled with the slide being another 1/2" shorter then my Glock 27! BUT, after having two brand new Kahr MK40's that didn't work, I'd never buy a Kahr again which isn't at least used and range test proven.

My current 27 is like carrying a concealable watermelon in my wasteband. I figured if I had to carry a fat gun, then it might as well be a .45. But, while officer model 45's are the same length slide as my 27, the grips are a full 1" longer, and the Glock 36 is bigger then my 27.

Soooo..... scratch buying a 45. I might just replace my Glock 27 with a Walther PPS .40. While the PPS .40 slide is the same length as my 27 slide with the grip a 1/2" longer, the slide is about as thin as a PPKS 380!!!! I tucked the PPS down my wasteband where my Glock 27 had been squeezed behind my belt for 3 hours as I walked the gunshow. Ahhh!! The slim Walther felt like the instant relief of a hemmoroidal gel stick in an itchy and sore tight spot.

toaddad
05-07-2012, 20:03
Due to its compactness, weight, accuracy and incredible reliability, my first choice is my Glock 36. Tied for second place is my Glock 30, 30SF and Kimber Ultra CDP II. Fifth spot goes to my Khar CW45 which is a great carry .45, but had some light primer strike failures last time out.

cyphertext
05-08-2012, 12:40
Ruger P90 for me.

Glock Master
05-08-2012, 20:47
Glock 36.

FLA45fan
05-08-2012, 21:43
Sig P245 or my newer Sig P220 compact (newer version of the 245)

RoGrrr
05-08-2012, 22:07
I carry 1911's, be they FULL SIZE or compacts, 45ACP or 9mm.
I used to carry a variety of stuff. Depended on how I felt that morning.
Then I talked with a fella who had been involved in some "hairy" situations. He asked me what I would do if I trained with, say, a Glock and when it went into the shop and I had to carry a 1911 that has a safety, WHAT WOULD I DO if I had to take the safety OFF while remembering I carried a Glock WITH NO SAFETY ?!? So I stand there trying to pull the trigger and NOTHING happens since the SAFETY is ON !

So I did some studying about soldiers and fighter pilots and commercial pilots. They train relentlessly with ONE platform so they DO NOT HAVE TO THINK about what they have to do if they have an EMERGENCY.

Is saving your life an emergency ?

To me, IT IS ! Based on that, I have a collection of 1911's, different sizes, 9mm and 45ACP. They all fit the same holster. They all feel the same. They all have the same safety.
All I have to do is draw and point in. It's ready to SAVE MY LIFE. No thinking necessary bcuz it's how I train.

kostnerave
05-08-2012, 22:26
G36. NEVER had an issue.
G-36 smallest I've ever owned and it a shooter too. My wife said my 1911 was tearing up our couch so I bought the G-36 being that the wife is a Glock gal. She never said a word about it or the couch since. It is one of the most accurate 45ACP I have, and it doesn't mind cast bullets.

tim12232
05-09-2012, 22:24
Dan Wesson cmdr bobtail! love that gun, well over 3k rounds "I know its not that much" and hasnt had one single issue past the very first mag fte, but that even could have been ammo related!

glock2740
05-09-2012, 22:46
Do these 2 count? Guncrafter No Name CCO in hardchrome and Wilson ULCc...:cool:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/CCOandULCcleft.jpg

glock2740
05-09-2012, 22:48
Dan Wesson cmdr bobtail! love that gun, well over 3k rounds "I know its not that much" and hasnt had one single issue past the very first mag fte, but that even could have been ammo related!

My DW Guardian in 9mm has been 110%. :cool:

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/IMG_3648.jpg

http://i914.photobucket.com/albums/ac341/OU1911/Gunsonthedeck006.jpg

ViennaGambit
05-09-2012, 23:08
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm33/harry1922/54864c88.jpg

tango44
05-10-2012, 10:07
G30 and Colt Defender.

Gary1911A1
05-10-2012, 11:50
Dan Wesson CCO has been the most reliable for me. I even purchased another I was so impressed by my first one. My second has been just as good.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb75/Gary1911A1/100_0517.jpg

silversport
05-11-2012, 05:03
SiG Sauer P245...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b72/silversport1/P1000189.jpg

Bill

Dogbite
05-13-2012, 19:27
G30sf.

emtjr928
05-13-2012, 20:06
Added the Kimber Ultra CDP II in my Avatar a week or so ago. First range trip was flawless.

doc540
05-13-2012, 20:52
Colt Officers
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/doc540/Guns/1911/Colt%20Officers%20Stainless/Officers1986001-1-1.jpg

porschedog
05-13-2012, 20:58
I had an AMT 45 that was always reliable, but painful to shoot
Now I have a Para Ordnance Warthog that works and is a bit more pleasant, although that's a relative term

Paul7
05-14-2012, 14:17
Dan Wesson Valor.

owl6roll
05-15-2012, 04:09
G30 sf

RetDet
05-15-2012, 18:17
Glock 36. No muss, no fuss, works every time.

JordanK
05-15-2012, 18:54
I had a Kimber Ultra Carry that put a fair amount of lead down range right out of the box without a single failure... but it was pretty unpleasant to shoot. It was very small and very reliable. Really, it was pretty accurate too... I could shoot better with it than any of the snubbies I've ever owned. For whatever reason though, shooting it just wasn't enjoyable. A bit too snappy, maybe. After a year or so, I found someone willing to take it off my hands for a fair price... never really regretted it.

deputy tom
05-16-2012, 07:14
SA light weight Champion. Never a malfunction with any and all ammo. I regretfully sold this pistol to a good friend several years ago. He still wears it every day.tom.:crying:

texmex
05-16-2012, 14:43
I have a Colt New Agent that has been 100% reliable. I have probably shot 500 rounds through it, mostly FMJ with about 10% being Gold Dots. Not one malfunction so far.

GVFlyer
05-17-2012, 00:19
Nothing smaller than a Commander.