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M&P Shooter
05-07-2012, 00:44
My friend purchased a G23 gen 4 even after I begged him to get a gen 3 and now he is getting empties in the face. I only purchased gen 3's so I'm not sure what extractor to order him, please someone give me a link to the correct gen 4 40cal extractor to fix his problem:wavey:

Folsom_Prison
05-07-2012, 00:53
Well which one is in it now?

M&P Shooter
05-07-2012, 00:55
Well which one is in it now?
I will have to pop it out tomorrow and reply. I never dealt with a Glock problem before. He said he fired 50 rounds and 10 hit him straight in the forehead.

Folsom_Prison
05-07-2012, 01:02
I will have to pop it out tomorrow and reply. I never dealt with a Glock problem before. He said he fired 50 rounds and 10 hit him straight in the forehead.

Odd, because I've thought most of the problems were with the 9's. Gotta ask was this the guns first 50? If so maybe he should run it some more and really stretch it's legs before you go swapping parts.

Tiro Fijo
05-07-2012, 01:52
When your friend get out of the Hospital Burn Unit get him started on a regimen of Wheaties & weights. :supergrin:


:rofl:

NEOH212
05-07-2012, 03:10
Well which one is in it now?

:rofl:

NEOH212
05-07-2012, 03:11
And the Glock troubles continue.

IMAGINE THAT!


:upeyes::upeyes::upeyes:

DannyR
05-07-2012, 04:01
Does your friend know how to shoot a Glock? Which ammo caused the problem? Does he work for S&W or Springfield?

voyager4520
05-07-2012, 05:29
This is the ejector that should be in a Gen4 G23:
http://i42.tinypic.com/veqdjp.jpg

If his gun already has that ejector, I'd try replacing the extractor with another OEM .40 LCI extractor.

tech859
05-07-2012, 07:39
Is it this guy's first handgun?

FWIW, you know the new production gen3's have the same supposed issues, too...

pag23
05-07-2012, 07:48
i have had no issues with my Gen 4 23 with a production date of around Feb 2012.

mikejm
05-07-2012, 09:26
I just purchased a new Gen 4 23. I asked the owner of the gun shop about the ejecting problems with the Gen 4's. He reply was '' If you use 180 gr. ammo you should have no problems" I haven't fired mine yet, it is fresh out of the factory, the empty test cartridge package date is 4/12/2012.

ColdSteelNail
05-07-2012, 13:24
I sold my Gen4 23 for that problem. Even after I took it to Smyrna the problems persisted. I tire of seeing these numbnuts on here suggesting the problem that Glock is having is caused by limp wristing. This a widespread problem affecting experienced and inexperienced shooters alike. I had a local sheriff's deputy and a police officer shoot my pistol at the range I go to and they had problems with it.
I hate to see a great company like Glock continue to hide from this problem. While they will work on your pistol and try to correct it they should do more. They should acknowledge the problem and offer to replace it with a Gen3.

L Pete
05-07-2012, 14:11
Tell your friend to quit holding it "gangsta' style", and hold the gun upright. I purchased a new G-23 Gen 4 last week. I fired 140 rounds, and all the brass was in a pile about 5 feet behind me at 4 o'clock. It was so consistent, that I thought I could put a coffee can on the ground behind me and have it collect the brass so I could start reloading for it. This gun is the most consistent brass thrower I've ever seen. I was shooting WWB 165s and PDX-1 165s. So far, it's great.

M&P Shooter
05-07-2012, 14:55
He hasn't owned a gun or shot in 15 years. Yes it was the guns 1st 50 runs since new purchased a month ago and gun manufacture date is Jan 2012.

M&P Shooter
05-07-2012, 15:32
When your friend get out of the Hospital Burn Unit get him started on a regimen of Wheaties & weights. :supergrin:


:rofl:
It's funny you said that because he is a former power lifter juice head, but your right he might have got soft in his older years:rofl:

gen423mike
05-07-2012, 17:19
problem solved...

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQmlWT5jviBDEXMbGcdKRNRQQmenfDfhoGz5a1NaFDNixr6MDE1

flw
05-07-2012, 17:44
About mid April I picked up my first Glock. A G23 Gen 4.

I am left handed which may have no bearing on the issue but did notice that the original post didn't state which hand the user was using.

I used 165 gr Fiocchi FMJ 250 rounds with only one problem which was a single stove pipe. No other issues. Since the ammo I bought was made for shooting paper, I don't consider it a big problem. Now if I was using ammo I was going to carry, I may feel different.

My only problem was trying to get the new mags fully loaded and still have some skin left on my thumb. I now have and love a Butler Lula loader. Its a real thumb saver.

Just my 2 cents.

Beretta92guy
05-07-2012, 17:45
problem solved...

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQmlWT5jviBDEXMbGcdKRNRQQmenfDfhoGz5a1NaFDNixr6MDE1

that could be a new self-defense accessory sold w/glock to save your eyes from flying brass:rofl:

M&P Shooter
05-08-2012, 08:14
problem solved...

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQmlWT5jviBDEXMbGcdKRNRQQmenfDfhoGz5a1NaFDNixr6MDE1This is why I only own Gen 3 Glocks:wavey:

flw
10-22-2012, 22:43
I have a G23 Gen 4. I have the same issue but I have found two caused.

One, I'm left handed and this causes this issue on many hand guns and rifles as well. A brass deflector is the only cure for a lefty such as my self of better shooting classes.

Two. low powered ammo will not get kicked out with enough energy to avoid getting brass in the face of down the shirt. 124 or 148 grain tends to reduce or eliminate the issue.

This is my experience being a lefty.

PrecisionRifleman
10-22-2012, 23:08
I've had many BTF with my Gen 4 G23. I received the updated RSA from Glock and I get BTF much less frequently. I need to see which ejector I have myself. The people on this board that say it's caused by limp wristing don't know what they are talking about. Good luck in solving your buddy's issue with his.

Beanie-Bean
10-23-2012, 05:49
Two. low powered ammo will not get kicked out with enough energy to avoid getting brass in the face of down the shirt. 124 or 148 grain tends to reduce or eliminate the issue.

I load my own ammo, and agree with the first part of your statement, but the bullet weights you listed are closer to 9mmX19 weights (124, 147 gr.) than more widely available 0.400" projectiles (155, 165, 180) used in the .40 S&W rounds...:wavey:

I also have to clarify that underpowered ammo which I have loaded and shot do not necessarily result in brass to the face, but rather, brass dribbling out of the ejection port, or even failure to extract.

TheExplorer
10-23-2012, 05:54
I just purchased a new Gen 4 23. I asked the owner of the gun shop about the ejecting problems with the Gen 4's. He reply was '' If you use 180 gr. ammo you should have no problems" I haven't fired mine yet, it is fresh out of the factory, the empty test cartridge package date is 4/12/2012.

That's not true and my forehead can prove it.

Arc Angel
10-23-2012, 05:58
Odd, because I've thought most of the problems were with the 9's. Gotta ask was this the guns first 50? If so maybe he should run it some more and really stretch it's legs before you go swapping parts.

Nope, 40's too! ;)

Does your friend know how to shoot a Glock? Which ammo caused the problem? Does he work for S&W or Springfield?

Danny, are you going to go through your entire life with those extra dark Glock sunglasses on? What does the factory do - Give you a free pistol every year?

This is the ejector that should be in a Gen4 G23:

http://i42.tinypic.com/veqdjp.jpg

If his gun already has that ejector, I'd try replacing the extractor with another OEM .40 LCI extractor.

Yup, that's about the best Internet advice you're going to get!

TheExplorer
10-23-2012, 06:06
And 45 GAP. Glock BTF does not discriminate.:cool:

djkrajzi
10-28-2012, 16:22
Anyone find a solution?

Just bought g23 gen4 production date jan 2012 and yes it has the new ejector and i'm still getting brass to the face.

flw
10-28-2012, 19:47
I'm a lefty so I'm just going to give up the fight and assume that like my weapon in the Army, every once in a while I'll get one in the face or down the shirt.