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plouffedaddy
05-12-2012, 10:40
I just picked up a Caracal and have heard lots of talk about upcoming changes to the gun (sight system, backstraps, ect...) and I was thinking---I wonder if this thing will one day be a collector's item like a Gen1 17...?

Don't get me wrong, it's a gun and I'm going to shoot the piss out of it, but I'm just posing that as a discussion point.

Metal Angel
05-12-2012, 10:54
It depends on its future success. I'm sure it will be a classic if it explodes in popularity like the Glock did. I doubt it will though.

Njanear
05-12-2012, 10:58
It looks like Centerfire Systems has a pretty decent deal on them ($399.99 each) and mags for $19.99 BUT will the support be there after they make any changes to the design? :dunno:

It does look interesting and I would like to hold one to see how it fits, but I really can't see them becoming a collector's item anytime soon (especially if it has been shot. Even GEN1 G17s drop in value once they get any signs of use on them).

Cole125
05-12-2012, 12:35
Its possible. Interesting guns, but I refuse to send my money to that part of the world.

Metal Angel
05-12-2012, 13:01
Its possible. Interesting guns, but I refuse to send my money to that part of the world.

Yeah, more and more I think I just want to buy American guns. That way the money that is spent is used right here in America by a company who probably puts a significant amount of effort into maintaining our gun rights. I really love my Glock 19, but I think it may be my last foreign gun. I dont even know if i would buy a Springfield XD since they are buit in Croatia. We'll see.

But yeah, especially where the Caracal is from.

Decguns
05-12-2012, 14:23
If I've learned one thing over the past 25 years in the gun business, just because something is rare (or even one of a kind) doesn't mean it will ever be collectable or valuable. Unless the Caracal gains some cult following here, they will fade away like so many other foreign pistols.

Raven1967
05-12-2012, 16:06
Dont know if they will be collectors items,I own 3 and like them alot doubt I ever sell them.

bac1023
05-12-2012, 16:25
I highly doubt it.

Collector's items generally command a premium.

Also, who said 1st gen G17s were collector's items? :dunno:

Comedian
05-13-2012, 02:29
I just picked up a Caracal and have heard lots of talk about upcoming changes to the gun (sight system, backstraps, ect...) and I was thinking---I wonder if this thing will one day be a collector's item like a Gen1 17...?

Don't get me wrong, it's a gun and I'm going to shoot the piss out of it, but I'm just posing that as a discussion point.

Where did you hear about changes to the Caracal? Are night sights coming?

plouffedaddy
05-13-2012, 11:48
I highly doubt it.

Collector's items generally command a premium.

Also, who said 1st gen G17s were collector's items? :dunno:

I say they're collectors items if you look at what people on gunbroker are paying for them! :supergrin:

As for the night sights--Caracal said they were going to start offering them at SHOT this year. They also said F/O sights were coming out and I've already seen those so hopefully the night sights are next...

Rustin
05-13-2012, 13:06
:needspics:

And an in depth review of the Caracal pistol.

Seriously, I've only heard it being mentioned once on this site.

plouffedaddy
05-13-2012, 14:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnpprZgirKs

Sturm did the one above; mine's in the T&E stage but I'll do up a video/review once I have a few hundred rounds through it.

Here's mine:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l178/tiffani33/Guns/IMAG1143.jpg

TSAX
05-13-2012, 14:53
They just signed competition shooter JJ Racaza to join their team. I would say they will gain more in interest/popularity.

http://twitter.com/#!/Guns_com/status/195542870336344064 (http://twitter.com/#%21/Guns_com/status/195542870336344064)









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.45Super-Man
05-13-2012, 15:32
I doubt if the current trend of plastic/stamped metal autos will ever spawn any "colectors pieces". Even the original plastic frame auto(HK VP70)hasnt become all that desirable.

bac1023
05-13-2012, 18:16
I say they're collectors items if you look at what people on gunbroker are paying for them! :supergrin:



My mistake. I haven't priced tham lately. Maybe they have been selling higher than before.

MoCop
05-13-2012, 18:43
My local gun shop has a 1st generation G17 for sale for around $459.00 very tempting. Looks all original, even the mag. Anyway back to the original post, who knows if they'll become a collector's item. They seem to be nicely made pistols, though. I handled one the other day and the trigger is very nice.

bac1023
05-14-2012, 04:06
My local gun shop has a 1st generation G17 for sale for around $459.00 very tempting. Looks all original, even the mag. Anyway back to the original post, who knows if they'll become a collector's item. They seem to be nicely made pistols, though. I handled one the other day and the trigger is very nice.

Yeah, I didn't think they were bringing too much.

$100 or even $200 more doesn't really make them collector's items.

BuckyP
05-14-2012, 06:11
Also, who said 1st gen G17s were collector's items? :dunno:

^ This ^


They just signed competition shooter JJ Racaza to join their team. I would say they will gain more in interest/popularity.


The fact that they're signing someone of JJ's caliber, means they are looking to make a play in the civilian market. It will be interesting to see. JJ is a local. I'm hoping to get to handle his Caracal soon. (Hmm, maybe I need to word that differently :whistling:)

plouffedaddy
05-14-2012, 20:04
I'm sure he'd let you shoot it. JJ seems like a pretty down to earth kind of guy.

Rustin
05-14-2012, 20:49
Looks like a damn fine pistol. How does it shoot? Recoil compared to say, a Glock?

Raven1967
05-14-2012, 20:56
Very low recoil and a good trigger to go along with it.Got over 1500 rds through my Caracal F.

Gary1911A1
05-15-2012, 08:57
I like my Caracal Compact so much I purchased a holster and mag pouch for it and for me that's saying a lot.

TSAX
05-15-2012, 09:17
.

Also, who said 1st gen G17s were collector's items? :dunno:

I think a gun being a collectors item can be somewhat subjective. This site has many rare and collectible Glocks. I would say a Gen 1 G17 would be a collectors items to some.

Rare & Collectible Glocks

www.glockfaq.com/content.aspx?ckey=glock_faq_rare_and_collectible_glocks (http://www.glockfaq.com/content.aspx?ckey=glock_faq_rare_and_collectible_glocks)


GT Collectors Club Forum
www.glocktalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=208






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Edmund
05-18-2012, 04:59
Maybe some of these pistols will become collectors items..
The batch has been recalled and sent back to UAE except some..
Please click http://s192.photobucket.com/albums/z69/Quickload/Caracal/?action=view&current=IMG_5031.jpg#!oZZ80QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs192.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz69%2FQuickload%2 FCaracal%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DIMG_5030.jpg

Raven1967
05-18-2012, 06:32
Recalled for what?

Njanear
05-18-2012, 16:03
The fact that they're signing someone of JJ's caliber, means they are looking to make a play in the civilian market. It will be interesting to see. JJ is a local. I'm hoping to get to handle his Caracal soon. (Hmm, maybe I need to word that differently :whistling:)

I really want to see what his pistol looks like. Do you think he will simply stick to Production or totally mod one out for Open/Unlimited (or any other non-Production category)? :dunno:

Titurel
05-18-2012, 17:21
Apparently these are now being made in Germany.

BuckyP
05-18-2012, 19:56
I really want to see what his pistol looks like. Do you think he will simply stick to Production or totally mod one out for Open/Unlimited (or any other non-Production category)? :dunno:

Only time will tell. A lot of accessories would need to become available to make a viable open gun.

ftw13
05-19-2012, 02:05
mine should be arriving in a couple of days.got a compact model from centerfire for 399

Raven1967
05-19-2012, 08:25
All three of mine have been flawless,great gun for the money.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f104/chichlid67/DSC02218.jpg

ozy
05-28-2012, 05:54
was quite intrigued by the caracal psitols so went and handled both the compact and full size. very comfortable and with great ergonomics. didn't have time to shoot'em.
as for the uae- i kinda got turned off by it, but apparently only a small amount of parts are made in the uae, in order to get the importation tax break, and it is now fully made in suhl, germany by merkel(not the chancellor, the company bearing the same name). also, uae investors' $$$$$$$$ was the seed money to get willem bubbits( enginerr for glock, walther ,steyer and now caracal) to develop the gun.
there's some heavy money behind this effort ,so i doubt they'll go away any time soon. with racaza signed up, all they need is a LE contract of sort and they are in.