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tacops5372
05-16-2012, 14:08
I've been busy liquidating my previous business in order to create a new one here in Texas. I'm going to get my FFL and open a gun shop with Outdoor range. I've gotten at least 2 friends involved in helping me accomplish this. But the issue is location location location?
DFW is out since there are so many now. So we are thinking east? Maybe between San Antonio and Houston? Even looked into South Texas by Corpus Christi area. But in order for me to do this with a pistol/shotgun, rifle range and skeet. Not to include a 100 yard archery range setup as well. I'm gonna need some land outside city limits. So just a few questions? More like a poll? (Keep in mind if you are out of state please note to put state in number 2 question) We would think about moving out of state as well if it was profitable enough...

1. How far would you drive to go to a good outdoor range with good pricing and customer service?

2. What city are you in?

3. Would you deal with a more expensive setup or no so good customer service to save gas?

4. What do you consider decent pricing?



Thanks to all my fellow GT'rs out there...

jeanderson
05-16-2012, 14:53
1. How far would you drive to go to a good outdoor range with good pricing and customer service? 45 minutes (but I only shoot about once a month)

2. What city are you in? Cleveland, OH

3. Would you deal with a more expensive setup or no so good customer service to save gas? Would be willing to drive extra for better service - frankly not that concerned about gas prices.

4. What do you consider decent pricing? $15 - $20 per hour.

Dan Glock
05-16-2012, 15:04
You should look into making it in deep south Texas, McAllen,Mission,Edinburg area is probably the fastest growing community in the entire US. No FFLs with ranges much less a rental range. Just plain old gun shops and shooting ranges. I think a great competitive advantage you may have here is having a gun shop where you can actually shoot then and there.

there are at least a half dozen well know gun shops around and of course your walmarts and academys, but only one bass pro shop for 2 million plus in a 120 miles range is significant I think. This community is booming here except housing is pretty stable but retail is very strong.

I myself am a business owner and entrepreneur and this is something I might be interested ib helping you with.

Dan Glock
05-16-2012, 15:06
there are at least two-three gun clubs and maybe 3 actual shooting ranges, besides all the ranches

bac1023
05-16-2012, 15:15
I've driven up to an hour to shoot.

tacops5372
05-16-2012, 15:36
Actually took a trip to Alice Tx, last week. But it didnt go as planned. But yeah deep south like McAllen is somthing we are considering.....

Jason D
05-16-2012, 16:12
I drive 400 miles round trip to shoot at Camp Perry.
You can't find a better range.

My local private club is about three miles away, but they only have a 200 yard max range for rifles. They do have trap fields, four pistol ranges with one being for rimfire only.

WarEagle32
05-16-2012, 16:19
I would and have driven no more than 45 minutes. For an indoor range maybe an hour!

MadMonkey
05-16-2012, 16:27
Stay in DFW, and build a range north of Ft. Worth that allows drawing and firing, firing on the move, separate (private!) tactical bays, long range rifle range, etc. Base it on Best of the West north of Austin.

DFW is in dire need of a GOOD range. Quality over quantity :crying:

I'd drive under an hour to shoot, which is about the distance I was from BotW when I lived in Austin.

Bruce M
05-16-2012, 16:52
I'd drive 45 minutes for a good range. You are braver than am I. I would be concerned about the cost of the amount of land to do this right, and concerned about potential envirnomental, noise, and liability issues.

Angry Fist
05-16-2012, 16:56
20-30 minutes to the indoor range, pistol only. I drive almost an hour to the outdoor range. I'll never stop kicking myself for moving into town. Used to shoot in the backyard.

faawrenchbndr
05-16-2012, 16:59
I drive about 15 mins for an indoor firearm range.
20 mins to an indoor archery range. 50 mins to a 100m
outdoor, free range that always seems to be empty.
Never seen another shooter there,......during the week.

michael e
05-16-2012, 17:04
I am in houston, we have limited ranges with nice staff. We drive 45 mins to the shotgun range that actually has a good staff.
As for price range, do not charge me per gun, I can't stand that. I am taking up a lane either way.
For the price vs CS. I have a LGS less than 2 miles away that I will not go to because of the attitude I got from them when I wanted a 357sig ordered for me. By the time I walk into a gun shop I have already researched what I want, I understand some people ask about stuff , but when I tell you I want I don't need a spech about how it's not a smart choice. I now drive to a FFL over 20 miles away because he doesn't tell me I need a 45acp over GAP ect.

jlruiz32
05-16-2012, 17:07
San Antonio would be great, for me. We need more ranges here. Bass pro is about 15-20 minutes away depending on traffic. The outdoor ranges are about 30-45 minutes away.

tacops5372
05-16-2012, 17:29
One of my closest friends live north of Houston and when he told me about a range that wanted to charge per gun. I almost fell over. I started doing some research and others do the same if not worse like for their store used targets as well.. We will not be doing that!
One flat fee.. Discounts for LEO/FIRE/EMT Reserve and volunteer as well. (licensed security officers are welcomed.) If you take the CHL class from us for new or renewal, discounts as well on flate fee...

collim1
05-16-2012, 17:33
Occasionally I drive 45miles to the closest indoor range If I planned on shooting and its raining or hot outside.

The charge $8 for the first hour and $6 for each additional, but honestly no matter how long I shoot they never charge me more than the initial $8.

The main concern is the gas, but if I leave the F150 at home and drive the wife's Civic its not that big of deal getting approx 35mpg.

They have a decent gun shop also, but since its across the state line I cant buy guns without doing a transfer so I generally dont buy from them. Its still fun to look though, they have a bigger selection than any gun shops in my city.

trashcat
05-16-2012, 18:16
How far would I drive to shoot? Well that depends on who a get to shoot when I get there.
The local outdoor range is in the town where I work, 8 miles away from my house. It belongs to a local gun club and there are no services you bring everything you need. It's only open to the public on weekends but it only costs $5 for the day. If a range master isn't available the range isn't open. I don't know where the nearest commercial outdoor range is but it's not within 200miles. Of course there are a couple good shooting spots out in the mountains about 40 miles away.
The local indoor pistol only range(small only 5 lanes) is 16 miles from my house an has great service. It's $12 for the day or you can buy a membership and come and go as you please. For me work is about half way between home and the range so I'll occasionally eat in the car and shoot a box or two at lunch time.

ScottieG59
05-16-2012, 18:31
I've been busy liquidating my previous business in order to create a new one here in Texas. I'm going to get my FFL and open a gun shop with Outdoor range. I've gotten at least 2 friends involved in helping me accomplish this. But the issue is location location location?
DFW is out since there are so many now. So we are thinking east? Maybe between San Antonio and Houston? Even looked into South Texas by Corpus Christi area. But in order for me to do this with a pistol/shotgun, rifle range and skeet. Not to include a 100 yard archery range setup as well. I'm gonna need some land outside city limits. So just a few questions? More like a poll? (Keep in mind if you are out of state please note to put state in number 2 question) We would think about moving out of state as well if it was profitable enough...

1. How far would you drive to go to a good outdoor range with good pricing and customer service?

Perhaps 45 minutes at most.

2. What city are you in?

North Kansas City, KS

3. Would you deal with a more expensive setup or no so good customer service to save gas?

Cost matters as well as value. Bad customer service may also mean bad safety. I prefer to have some degree of range control in order to keep safety in line. I go to a state run range that is fairly good, but they do it by the numbers and there is no rapid fire or shooting while moving. It is pure marksmanship training with no practical shooting.. I would like more.

4. What do you consider decent pricing?

The state range costs $3 an hour and paper targets are free. I would pay more if I got more and did not have to wait in line. Also, it would be nice to do some more practical training. I would pay more if I got more.






Thanks to all my fellow GT'rs out there...




Out there in fly-over country...

marv
05-16-2012, 19:35
My closest club range is 12 mi away in another state. I used to drive 50 mi to shoot USPSA. Closest place to shoot is a few steps outside the house.

CDR_Glock
05-16-2012, 19:45
20-25 minutes.

SW VA

I'm a member of a private club. I also shoot at an indoor range when it's too dark for outdoors or if it's raining.

CBennett
05-16-2012, 19:52
my normal indoor range(that I seldom use cause its too expensive) is 5 min. My normal outdoor range is about 20 min. If I had to I guess I'd go up to 45 min or a hour but I'd be going a LOT less.

Big Time
05-16-2012, 19:53
Sometimes 40 miles one way.

bmoore
05-16-2012, 20:17
I drive 12 minutes to an indoor range. I drive 50 minutes to shoot in the desert.

mixflip
05-16-2012, 20:24
I drive 29 miles into the Nevada desert. (outside of Vegas)

I cant shoot and move or practice malfunction drills at civilian ranges. The military and police ranges are hard to get scheduled. (for me anyway)

TxGlock9
05-16-2012, 21:02
I am in houston, we have limited ranges with nice staff. We drive 45 mins to the shotgun range that actually has a good staff.
As for price range, do not charge me per gun, I can't stand that. I am taking up a lane either way.
For the price vs CS. I have a LGS less than 2 miles away that I will not go to because of the attitude I got from them when I wanted a 357sig ordered for me. By the time I walk into a gun shop I have already researched what I want, I understand some people ask about stuff , but when I tell you I want I don't need a spech about how it's not a smart choice. I now drive to a FFL over 20 miles away because he doesn't tell me I need a 45acp over GAP ect.

I'm curious what gun store was this?

Btw have you tried the large one off westheimer parkway?

glock2740
05-16-2012, 21:19
About 2-3 miles. Our POA has an outdoor covered pistol 50 yard range, an outdoor 100 yard covered rifle range, a trap and skeet range with many different stations and is building an archery range. All for free to property owners, like me. :cool: Also throw in 7 very well stocked and managed lakes and as many golf courses. But only the fishing is free. :cool:

tacops5372
05-18-2012, 22:42
So from what I see there is a sense that people would drive further for good service, flat fee and a place with a practical tactical range for drawing from holster, moving while firing? I'm sure inusrance and liability is why most places dont have that. But with proper concent forms for no liabilty of accident and injuries signed before hand and as long as you dont mind a range officer on site to make sure you dont go to overboard. I think we can add that to the table.... Location Location Location... Our goal is to eventually have a Lodge house for you to stay the weekends or week if you whish for those who crave vacations like this...

ZO6Vettever
05-19-2012, 13:28
When I lived in Key West I drove about 155 miles each way to a Trail Glades Range. It was the closest other than a private club in Key Largo where someone had to die and you be his closest relative at about 100 miles each way. My neighbor/shootin' buddy and I took turns driving once a month.

Blackshirts
05-19-2012, 14:54
We are spoiled here in the Phoenix metro area. 2 great outdoor ranges, Sportsmans Club on the east side(out to 300 yards) and Ben Avery on the north side(out to 1000 yards). I was fortunate enough to live about 15 minutes from Sportsmans and when I moved I am now about 10 minutes from Ben Avery. 10 minutes in the other direction though is BLM land so I go there now for free most of the time.

1. How far would you drive to go to a good outdoor range with good pricing and customer service? About a hour if I had multiple options I guess. I still go to Sportsmans sometimes just because I like it so much(an hour away). If no other options then as far as it took to get to the closest one. The farther the distance the less frequency probably, but if there was not an option closer be it BLM land or another range I would have to go.

2. What city are you in? Phoenix, AZ area

3. Would you deal with a more expensive setup or no so good customer service to save gas? Depends on what I am there for. More expensive range time for a better range I am fine with. Bad CS when looking for range time I could live with. As long as they leave me alone when I am shooting it won't bother me. That bad CS when it came time for me to look to buy though would cause me not to consider that shop for the purchase.

4. What do you consider decent pricing? The outdoor ranges here are $7 and $8 a day for unlimited bench time. Again I feel I am spoiled as the one time I went to an indoor range the $15 an hour was quite the sticker shock. Luckily it was "ladies night"(which is all day every Friday) so my wife got a free hour and free gun rental so we only had to pay for me and ammo. One hour goes quick. At the outdoor ranges I am usually there for 3-4 hours.

WarEagle32
05-19-2012, 15:47
Look at the Atlanta Area. There isn't a good long range very close to the city and a ton of shooters.

TSAX
05-19-2012, 17:51
It depends, I have driven 4 hours out of state to a machine gun shoot. Normally I drive 30 mins. or so to shoot. I could drive a shorter distance but those ranges arent that great.







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Rick O'Shay
05-19-2012, 19:31
I have a range on my own land, 300 yards behind the house. But when I shoot for more than 20 minutes or so, I have a call from the sheriff's office, asking if I am the one shooting "back there". I assure them that it is I. Same neighbor has called them, each time, for about 10 years now.
THEREFORE: I drive about an hour to a range, where I am a member. Not as long as mine, but is covered, with seats and benches, and concrete underfoot. $100/yr for membership.
Worth the hour's drive for me to shoot for four hours straight if I like. And I usually like!

Soonerbldr
05-19-2012, 19:59
For a good outdoor range an club i would drive 30-45 minutes. I live in McKinney and I have not found a good outdoor range since I moved here. There are a couple of indoor ranges within 30 minutes but they are packed and they are indoor. I know that there is a new gun club opening in Frisco that I will likely join but there again it is indoor.
I think the key is being multifaceted if you want someone to travel any distance to your store, and have reasonable prices. If you are charging $10 more for a box of ammo then you are going to lose out... $5 is reasonable considering the convenience factor.
If you have a large area consider classes as well. I am sure you could find a person that is qualified to teach certain classes and they can be paid based off of attendence vs. a flat salary.
I would love to find a place like the US Shooting Academy near here that offers classes in self defense as well as shooting related classes.

http://www.usshootingacademy.com/

CitizenOfDreams
05-19-2012, 20:08
Depends on who I'm shooting.

Seriously, a couple of miles would be my limit for a regular pistol range. Maybe 10-15 miles for an outdoor range. More for something special (full auto, unusual targets etc.).

SauerChoi
05-19-2012, 21:29
I have a membership at a range about 20 minutes from my house but for mainly pistols.

For a rifle, I have driven up to an hour one way to shoot. Rifle ranges around my area seriously blow. One rd in the mag at a time...:upeyes:

Sig Junkie
05-19-2012, 23:48
i've gone an hour