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Glock!9
05-17-2012, 12:16
KENYA AND RAISED IN INDONESIA AND HAWAII'

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii


Does it really matter at this point?

Mrs. Tink
05-17-2012, 12:47
No. No one cares. Just like when the news article was resurrected that called him "Kenyan-born" during his initial Senate run.

My former Congressman, Mike Coffman, found himself apologizing this morning (http://www.9news.com/news/article/268305/339/Coffman-Obama-in-his-heart-not-an-American) for saying that although he didn't konw whether Obama was born in the U.S. or not, "in his heart he's just not an American." People are too PC to go there anymore. It would probably take an admission from Obama himself.

JFrame
05-17-2012, 12:57
Yeah -- the pamphlet could say that Obama was born on Mars to an alien-abuctee, and the most challenging question he'd get from the MSM is, "Did you always have such a mischievous smile? :kiss:"






:upeyes:


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Don H
05-17-2012, 13:33
:popcorn:

janice6
05-17-2012, 13:44
No. No one cares. Just like when the news article was resurrected that called him "Kenyan-born" during his initial Senate run.

My former Congressman, Mike Coffman, found himself apologizing this morning (http://www.9news.com/news/article/268305/339/Coffman-Obama-in-his-heart-not-an-American) for saying that although he didn't konw whether Obama was born in the U.S. or not, "in his heart he's just not an American." People are too PC to go there anymore. It would probably take an admission from Obama himself.



I don't think it is a case of PC as much as a fear of being labeled a "Racist" in retaliation.

Just1More
05-17-2012, 14:19
Birther has become a dirty word. We need somebody like Trump to pursue an investigation.

series1811
05-17-2012, 14:36
Are you a birther if you print that Obama told you he was born in Kenya, before you knew it was important that he be born in America?

I mean, somebody is going to have to smear this poor woman somehow.

Ruble Noon
05-17-2012, 14:39
Birther has become a dirty word. We need somebody like Trump to pursue an investigation.

Sheriff Joe did, found Obozo's BC to be a forgery and now he is facing prosecution by the DOJ.

JBnTX
05-17-2012, 14:47
KENYA AND RAISED IN INDONESIA AND HAWAII'

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii


Does it really matter at this point?


Yes, it really matters at this point.
It matters now more than ever.

Obama has committed fraud on several occasions if he was indeed born in Kenya.

If this can ever be proven, he would have to immediately resign as president.

The so called "birthers" must never give up the quest.

G29Reload
05-17-2012, 14:49
Needs to be perp walked out of the White House in handcuffs.

concretefuzzynuts
05-17-2012, 14:49
Can't say a word or you get the DOJ up your a@@ or have a "heart attack" in the street.

Glock!9
05-17-2012, 15:13
Yes, it really matters at this point.
It matters now more than ever.

Obama has committed fraud on several occasions if he was indeed born in Kenya.

If this can ever be proven, he would have to immediately resign as president.

The so called "birthers" must never give up the quest.

my point is that those things wouldn't happen to matter what is "proven"

LASTRESORT20
05-17-2012, 15:22
Yes, it really matters at this point.
It matters now more than ever.

Obama has committed fraud on several occasions if he was indeed born in Kenya.

If this can ever be proven, he would have to immediately resign as president.

The so called "birthers" must never give up the quest.


This....^^^
The Birther / racist card has expired...and is out of date...The lemmings will have to use something else....

Goaltender66
05-17-2012, 15:26
Update...this bio wasn't "corrected" until 2007...two months after Obama began his presidential run:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/Obama-pamphlet-in-use-2007

1) you can't call Birchers paranoid delusionals when Obama himself was saying he was born in Kenya;

2) at best this means Obama is willing to invent things out of whole cloth when it fits the preferred narrative (see also: girlfriend, invented).

Mrs. Tink
05-17-2012, 15:36
If this can ever be proven, he would have to immediately resign as president.


Who would force him to do so?

series1811
05-17-2012, 15:42
Who would force him to do so?

Certainly not Eric Holder.

JFrame
05-17-2012, 15:45
Update...this bio wasn't "corrected" until 2007...two months after Obama began his presidential run:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/Obama-pamphlet-in-use-2007

1) you can't call Birchers paranoid delusionals when Obama himself was saying he was born in Kenya;

2) at best this means Obama is willing to invent things out of whole cloth when it fits the preferred narrative (see also: girlfriend, invented).


Yup -- enough of this nonsense about folks being "racist," "stupid," or "conspiracy kooks" for even raising the specter of Obama's birthplace. Heck -- his own promotional literature said he was born in Kenya!

I especially agree with Point #2 -- Obama is a blank screen on which he has been allowed to project any persona he wants, with the willful and enthusiastic complicity of the 4th Estate, and the MSM in general.


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series1811
05-17-2012, 15:51
We need some Truth Squadders to come in and explain how this is more conspiracy nutjob stuff (because it sure looks like Obama told that woman he was born in Kenya).

Why would he do that if it wasn't true? :dunno:

Ruble Noon
05-17-2012, 16:05
We need some Truth Squadders to come in and explain how this is more conspiracy nutjob stuff (because it sure looks like Obama told that woman he was born in Kenya).

Why would he do that if it wasn't true? :dunno:

Apparently it was all just a mistake. :upeyes:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-literary-agent-responds-to-born-in-kenya-bio-nothing-more-than-a-fact-checking-error/

lancesorbenson
05-17-2012, 16:39
Apparently it was all just a mistake. :upeyes:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/obama-literary-agent-responds-to-born-in-kenya-bio-nothing-more-than-a-fact-checking-error/

I was an editor's assistant for two years right out of school and this excuse sounds totally bogus. Typically these bios are written by the authors themselves with a little embellishment done in house. I never saw any editor or assistant just throw out something so definitive and yet random as birthplace on their own. That's the kind of information the author would have provided to the publishing house.

Jeff82
05-17-2012, 17:15
The rope's on me.

MZBKA
05-17-2012, 18:19
If Obama would just release his birth certificate, this whole thing would go away....oh wait...

concretefuzzynuts
05-17-2012, 18:39
You mean this?
http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w459/concretefuzzynuts/longform.jpg

Want one made for you too?

Woofie
05-17-2012, 18:56
If Obama would just release his birth certificate, this whole thing would go away....oh wait...

Haha, I get it. You're pretending he didn't release a birth certificate in order to be ironic.

Too bad both that have been released were demonstrated to be forgeries.

series1811
05-17-2012, 19:34
If Obama would just release his birth certificate, this whole thing would go away....oh wait...

Hey, I see you again think this issue is so silly, you have to immediately come in and defend Obama again.

We'll keep that same offer open. We'll quit thinking there is something Obama is hiding, when supporters like you quit going ape s**t every time somebody asks a question about the next strange thing we find out about Obama.

(Don't worry. We know why you keep coming back).

MZBKA
05-17-2012, 19:41
Haha, I get it. You're pretending he didn't release a birth certificate in order to be ironic.

Too bad both that have been released were demonstrated to be forgeries.

I still haven't seen a single expert say the BC was forged. In fact, that's why the case was thrown out out court: the birthers couldn't find a single expert to testify.

series1811
05-17-2012, 19:43
I still haven't seen a single expert say the BC was forged. In fact, that's why the case was thrown out out court: the birthers couldn't find a single expert to testify.

It's eating you up, isn't it? :supergrin::supergrin:

fortyofforty
05-17-2012, 19:47
My former Congressman, Mike Coffman, found himself apologizing this morning (http://www.9news.com/news/article/268305/339/Coffman-Obama-in-his-heart-not-an-American) for saying that although he didn't konw whether Obama was born in the U.S. or not, "in his heart he's just not an American." People are too PC to go there anymore. It would probably take an admission from Obama himself.

The sad part is that no one alive, not even Odumbo himself, truly "knows" where he was born. He cannot remember. He can only rely on what he was told, and any written evidence presented. Just like all of us.

concretefuzzynuts
05-17-2012, 19:48
I still haven't seen a single expert say the BC was forged. In fact, that's why the case was thrown out out court: the birthers couldn't find a single expert to testify.

Court? When did it go to court?

MZBKA
05-17-2012, 19:49
Hey, if releasing three or four different ones didn't do the trick, maybe another two or three would (that way, people can pick out whichever one they like best). :dunno:

Or maybe it's a case of quantity not making up for quality.

Birther strategy: Demand Obama release his BC. After Obama releases his birth certificate, demand Obama release his LFBC - even though it has no legal purpose. Then after Obama releases his LFBC, claim that if one of the BCs were legitimate, Obama wouldn't have needed to release more than one and therefore, the birth certificates are forged. Absolutely outstanding.

How did Trump do in the GOP race for presidential contender btw? Maybe Romney can do as well as Trump if the birthers keep searching for "the truth."

series1811
05-17-2012, 19:49
Originally Posted by MZBKA
I still haven't seen a single expert say the BC was forged. In fact, that's why the case was thrown out out court: the birthers couldn't find a single expert to testify.


Court? When did it go to court?

DU revisionist history.

No suit regarding Obama's birth has ever made it to the discovery phase (thanks to a pile of money to lawyers who keep fighting it on procedural and jurisdictional grounds).

MZBKA
05-17-2012, 19:51
Court? When did it go to court?

You can do a search for "Georgia birther case" http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/02/03/read-georgia-judge%E2%80%99s-decision-shooting-down-%E2%80%98birther%E2%80%99-challenge-to-barack-obama/

series1811
05-17-2012, 19:56
You can do a search for "Georgia birther case" http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/02/03/read-georgia-judge%E2%80%99s-decision-shooting-down-%E2%80%98birther%E2%80%99-challenge-to-barack-obama/

Law knowledge fail.

Obama's side never showed up and refused to participate in discovery.

G29Reload
05-17-2012, 19:56
Too bad both that have been released were demonstrated to be forgeries.

Yep. Note the Kenya designation. Kenya was British East Africa till Dec of 64, years after the imposter was born.

MZBKA
05-17-2012, 19:57
Hey, I see you again think this issue is so silly, you have to immediately come in and defend Obama again.

We'll keep that same offer open. We'll quit thinking there is something Obama is hiding, when supporters like you quit going ape s**t every time somebody asks a question about the next strange thing we find out about Obama.

(Don't worry. We know why you keep coming back).

You continue to say that people who point out birthers' errors are Obama supporters.

If going ape **** means pointing out the errors in your logic, I guess we'll keep seeing each other's posts. I don't mind pointing out when you make a fool of yourself.

Are you going to tell us more about how Obama's mother was a CIA agent?

Keep moving those goal posts...

concretefuzzynuts
05-17-2012, 19:58
A reasonable sceptic of information is given title of "Birther" by a political smear campaign
and now anyone who questions or wonders is labeled a Birther, as if it is a four lettered word.

The same tactics used for decades by communists, socialists and Fascists.

It's so easy to quiet someone by labeling them. When that doesn't work "racist" is next.

MZBKA
05-17-2012, 19:59
Law knowledge fail.

Obama's side never showed up and refused to participate in discovery.

I know. The birthers couldn't even make a case with no defense present. Couldn't call a single expert; just a looney who wanted to rant for a while.

concretefuzzynuts
05-17-2012, 20:00
Law knowledge fail.

Obama's side never showed up and refused to participate in discovery.

Thanks.

JFrame
05-17-2012, 20:02
This entire thread is predicated on a promotional pamphlet issued on behalf of Obama...Sheesh... :upeyes:


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concretefuzzynuts
05-17-2012, 20:07
This entire thread is predicated on a promotional pamphlet issued on behalf of Obama...Sheesh... :upeyes:


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If you were in public office wouldn't you proof read something written on your behalf.

Maybe we should get back to discussing what a failure this president is and how badly he's handled the "recovery".

4TS&W
05-17-2012, 20:10
Funny, I thought his name was Barry Soetero.. go figure.. :)

JFrame
05-17-2012, 20:12
If you were in public office wouldn't you proof read something written on your behalf.

But then maybe you are right. Maybe we should get back to discussing what a failure this president is and how badly he's handled the "recovery".


Well -- I was actually pointing out the oddity of some people going through the anti-"Birther" mantra when the whole thread discussion is based on a declaration made in a pamphlet promoting Obama.


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concretefuzzynuts
05-17-2012, 20:16
Yep. Note the Kenya designation. Kenya was British East Africa till Dec of 64, years after the imposter was born.

Just to clarify, you refer to the notation of fathers birthplace on the latest birth cert.

http://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w459/concretefuzzynuts/longform.jpg

concretefuzzynuts
05-17-2012, 20:19
Well -- I was actually pointing out the oddity of some people going through the anti-"Birther" mantra when the whole thread discussion is based on a declaration made in a pamphlet promoting Obama.


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Got it. But still, Maybe we should get back to discussing what a failure this president is and how badly he's handled the "recovery" also.

Hokie
05-17-2012, 20:19
It is not really about obama it is about the media being his palace guards instead of watch dogs. We know everything about other presidential candidate down to there inseam but we know nothing about obama because he was not vetted.

JFrame
05-17-2012, 20:25
Got it. But still, Maybe we should get back to discussing what a failure this president is and how badly he's handled the "recovery" also.


Oh, yeah -- I agree. We need to hold Barry accountable for his failures since becoming president.

It is amusing how this Kenya thing seems to incense his supporters no end, however.


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Ruble Noon
05-17-2012, 20:27
Oh, yeah -- I agree. We need to hold Barry accountable for his failures since becoming president.

It is amusing how this Kenya thing seems to incense his supporters no end, however.


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I'm more concerned with his success.

coastal4974
05-17-2012, 20:33
I wonder what Barry is spending so much effort and money to hide from Americanís?

And why is the MSM continuing to ignore all the missing and fabricated links to the rulers background?

The Dems donít even care about the little Naziís known associations with domestic terrorist and Marxist.

 

:dunno: Must be pretty big.

GAFinch
05-17-2012, 20:43
Two scenarios:

1. Obama lied about being born in Hawaii to become president.

2. Obama lied about being born in Kenya to boost his affirmative action credentials at Harvard, just like Elizabeth "Dances With Lies" Warren (incidentally, the person who was being groomed as his successor in the media much like he had been).

G17Jake
05-17-2012, 21:31
Two scenarios:

1. Obama lied about being born in Hawaii to become president.

2. Obama lied about being born in Kenya to boost his affirmative action credentials at Harvard, just like Elizabeth "Dances With Lies" Warren (incidentally, the person who was being groomed as his successor in the media much like he had been).

Maybe Obama is a born again Kenyan? That could explain it.

:supergrin:

G17Jake
05-17-2012, 21:39
Well -- I was actually pointing out the oddity of some people going through the anti-"Birther" mantra when the whole thread discussion is based on a declaration made in a pamphlet promoting Obama.


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yup... it is odd indeed.

juggy4711
05-17-2012, 21:42
Who would force him to do so?

Certainly not Eric Holder.

Nor the spineless GOP House and certainly not the jack-ass Dem Senate. At this point Obama could come out and plainly state he wasn't born in the USA and it wouldn't amount to anything.

G17Jake
05-17-2012, 21:47
Nor the spineless GOP House and certainly not the jack-ass Dem Senate. At this point Obama could come out and plainly state he wasn't born in the USA and it wouldn't amount to anything.

The states may have something to say about it?

yes? no?

Mrs. Tink
05-17-2012, 23:39
You continue to say that people who point out birthers' errors are Obama supporters.


Whatever my unsolicited-on-an-internet-forum opinion is worth, I am firmly convinced you're not an Obama supporter. But you have to admit that if nothing else, Obama is an opportunist who may have pretended to be born in Kenya just to pad his little bio blurb on this promo material.

If you were in public office wouldn't you proof read something written on your behalf.


I am an elected official and I am lucky if I SEE the material before it goes out. The only bio I have written is my own that appears on the official district website, and people pull that off and STILL get things wrong. One time, a guy introducing me as the keynote at a breakfast said that me and my "husband, Paul" had been... I have no idea what he said after that because my husband's name is NOT Paul and it doesn't say the word Paul anywhere on anyone's bio on that page. :rofl:

With that said, if someone made that kind of an error and was representing me, I'd make SURE they corrected it... unless it were beneficial to me for it to stay erroneous. (I'm not so ethically divergent that I'd do that, but some would.)

hogship
05-18-2012, 00:40
If my recollection is correct, the original LFBC has never been seen by a single "expert".

.....only the copy.

We have plenty of evidence to cast some doubt to it's authenticity......at the very minimum.

The original certificate in the hands of unbiased experts would be the way to clear this thing up for good......but, that's never happened. If the original certificate doesn't exist, it certainly would fit what we do know.......

ooc

Flying-Dutchman
05-18-2012, 05:29
Notice no mention of birth place for the others profiled in the booklet.

Why would you say you were born in Kenya?

certifiedfunds
05-18-2012, 06:44
Yep. Note the Kenya designation. Kenya was British East Africa till Dec of 64, years after the imposter was born.

Folks like MZBKA will just ignore this.

Toyman
05-18-2012, 07:18
When running for the Senate seat, during a debate, between Obama and Keyes, Keyes faulted Obama for not being a "natural born citizen", and in which Obama, by his quick retort, "So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency", self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office.

Ruble Noon
05-18-2012, 07:21
When running for the Senate seat, during a debate, between Obama and Keyes, Keyes faulted Obama for not being a "natural born citizen", and in which Obama, by his quick retort, "So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency", self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office.

MZKBA will explain that away as a coke induced gaffe by obama.

Woofie
05-18-2012, 07:45
When running for the Senate seat, during a debate, between Obama and Keyes, Keyes faulted Obama for not being a "natural born citizen", and in which Obama, by his quick retort, "So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency", self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office.

Can you provide a source for this?

Cavalry Doc
05-18-2012, 08:03
I still think he was born in Hawaii, but suspect he claimed differently for some unknown reason in the past.

JFrame
05-18-2012, 08:10
I still think he was born in Hawaii, but suspect he claimed differently for some unknown reason in the past.


Basically, he's lied so much that he has earned no benefit of the doubt.


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aircarver
05-18-2012, 08:20
Basically, he's lied so much that he has earned no benefit of the doubt.


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This.

Now he will have to prove it to get on the ballot.

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RC-RAMIE
05-18-2012, 08:29
Im more worried about his Keynesians side.

JFrame
05-18-2012, 08:44
Im more worried about his Keynesians side.


Very clever word-play...I liked that! :cool:


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Cavalry Doc
05-18-2012, 09:04
This.

Now he will have to prove it to get on the ballot.

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Wanna bet?

aircarver
05-18-2012, 09:41
Wanna bet?

No...

The commie-crats have played the stonewall game to perfection so far...

But we trudge on ....

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steveksux
05-18-2012, 18:02
Who would force him to do so?
Congress, through impeachment if necessary if he won't resign...

Randy

Mrs. Tink
05-18-2012, 18:05
Congress, through impeachment if necessary if he won't resign...

Randy

Obama has made a habit of ignoring Congress or attempting to defy them in the court of public opinion. Even in the incredibly improbable event that Congress impeaches him, who will go to the White House and escort him out? Who will stand up against his predictable "right-wing political persecution stunt" speeches? Who will remove him from office?

I don't expect him to adhere to anything that would remove him from power. He's shown that he already won't.

steveksux
05-18-2012, 18:05
I still haven't seen a single expert say the BC was forged. In fact, that's why the case was thrown out out court: the birthers couldn't find a single expert to testify.Fox news had on an expert explaining that layers were common in modern copies made by copy machines with character recognition. FOX NEWS.... That's a hint right there, they're hardly shills for Obama.

Randy

Cavalry Doc
05-18-2012, 18:12
No...

The commie-crats have played the stonewall game to perfection so far...

But we trudge on ....

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It's called a bypass. You simply ignore problematic hurdles. Go full tilt bozo toward your goal.

That works.

steveksux
05-18-2012, 18:15
Obama has made a habit of ignoring Congress or attempting to defy them in the court of public opinion. Even in the incredibly improbable event that Congress impeaches him, who will go to the White House and escort him out? Who will stand up against his predictable "right-wing political persecution stunt" speeches? Who will remove him from office?Interesting question. There've been some previous impeachments, right? I'll have to check if they left of their own accord afterwards. I suspect they did, I doubt COTUS has anything regarding forcibly removing a sitting Pres that basically ignores being impeached. I don't think anyone has that sort of jurisdiction/powers. It would be quite a circus.

Randy

ERASER
05-18-2012, 20:04
I still think he was born in Hawaii, but suspect he claimed differently for some unknown reason in the past.

I suspect that Obama may have lied for the same reason Elizabeth Warren lied about her background.......affirmative action based advantages over more qualified people.

I think Obama lied to get into Columbia and Harvard.

I think Warren lied to get to teach at Harvard.

Her records are pretty-much available as far as I've read.

Obama's..........under lock and key. And no one in authority or in the media seem to think that's odd enough to investigate.