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TalkToTheGlock
05-18-2012, 09:32
I've been contemplating picking up the new MK25 to go along with my older German P226's and did a google. I found a thread on another forum regarding rust issues with the spring in the grip.

http://img.tapatalk.com/aefc46b6-6acb-2a0f.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/aefc46b6-6ad7-2753.jpg


Now, from my understanding Sig did fix this for the guy. The date on the box was March 18th and he bought it April 3rd or so.

I'm sure this was either a messing when coating the spring with the phosphate or they used an older spring from a non-Mk25.

In any event it is disheartening to hear that a $1,000 firearm can come from the factory like that.

Any thoughts or opinions?

Thanks.

Shipwreck-The-Sequel
05-18-2012, 11:25
Over the past couple of years - I have been seeing a lot of rust complains on Sig pistols

bunk22
05-18-2012, 11:39
I know of at least two Sigs without issues, including rust, my Sig 226 Navy and 2022 :supergrin:

collim1
05-18-2012, 13:57
Dont let that one picture influence you too much. Sig is making a quality firearm. My most recent Sig is a December 2010 P220R and it has been perfect from day one.

ronin.45
05-18-2012, 14:06
Phosphate has never been a very good firearm coating. Just because it's "Navy Seal Spec" doesn't make it good. There are dozens of better finishes for rust prevention. Just wait til Sig brings out the next super ultimate version of their 30 year old 226.

TSAX
05-18-2012, 14:12
Over the past couple of years - I have been seeing a lot of rust complains on Sig pistols

Dont let that one picture influence you too much. Sig is making a quality firearm. My most recent Sig is a December 2010 P220R and it has been perfect from day one.

Sig makes great pistols and the P226 is one of them. However recently Sig has had complaints on a variety of things like rust. Not on all guns but enough to make some hesitant like whats happen to the Gen 4 Glocks for some people. This is primarily a Glock site so you dont hear about it as much.

Some/Many people have not had issues with the new Sigs but the Sig P250 (they have since slightly changed/make a new version) and a few recalls in other pistols are just a few examples of some issues.

I would buy a Sig but if something did arise I would be surprised but I would hope Sig takes care of the issue. If you bought a brand new one chances are it'll be fine.







:50cal:

TalkToTheGlock
05-18-2012, 14:28
I will probably still buy one. But it will be the outcast of my German beauties. I think I'm in love...

Sgt127
05-18-2012, 19:13
I think that spring fell out of the hopper on the "rinse and oil" treatment after the parkerizing. Somebody picked it up, went back into the finished batch and got installed.

If thats the only thing wrong with one gun out of a couple thousand that week, well, it happens.

fowler
05-18-2012, 19:49
Bought 4 new sigs in the last two years and there perfect inside and out. New Sigs all new parts no rust or defects,just %100 reliability and fit and finish top of the food chain. Our local gunshops can,t keep the MK25's in the store . They sell as fast as they come in for near $1000 of perfection ,gone out the door. You snooze you lose one of the best combat 9mm's out there and considered the best by many.

Kimura
05-19-2012, 01:14
Sig did take care of this for him. IIRC he posted the pictures before he contacted Sig. When he did, most of us said to call them. It's unfortunate, but not catastrophic. If I wanted a MK25, I wouldn't let this deter me from buying one. They paid for him to ship the gun back to them and they did some extra work at no cost to him. While it's unfortunate that it got by QC in the first place, you really can't ask much more of them.

My personal opinion is if I owned an NSW serial numbered P226 and one of the last version of the P226 Navy, and both were still in the box unfired, I might consider buying one to complete the set as a possible future collecter set. However, other than that, I'm not sure why I would choose this over any other P226. Of course just wanting one is a good enough reason in itself.

fnfalman
05-19-2012, 01:16
Don't buy American-made SIGs, problem solved.

Sendarr
05-19-2012, 01:35
I have German and American made sigs, and never a problem out of any of them. Even the p250.

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fnfalman
05-19-2012, 01:40
I have German and American made sigs, and never a problem out of any of them. Even the p250.

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I also have American SIGs. They sit in the safe because I don't trust them.

fowler
05-19-2012, 04:22
You get alot of people who have sticker price shock that will knock the better best made pistols like the Sig ,because they won,t belly up and pay for the best. You hear alot of excuses like Colt AR,s are no good,HK stink,the old ones are better and Brownings are overpriced . You pay you play or just stick with old worn out cheap guns. I,ll take a new USA Sig everytime over a older Sig German made used or surplus older weaker inferior generations. A new MK-25 is on my nitestand and holster.

Sendarr
05-19-2012, 04:37
I also have American SIGs. They sit in the safe because I don't trust them.

:upeyes: :shakehead:

Then why have them? I think I've seen your "germany>exeter" comments before. If you don't like them then why not sell them and use the cash for something you trust and like? Just curious.

mr00jimbo
05-19-2012, 14:31
I also have American SIGs. They sit in the safe because I don't trust them.

Can I have them?? I'll pay the importing fees and licenses and give them a new home.

collim1
05-19-2012, 14:34
Can I have them?? I'll pay the importing fees and licenses and give them a new home.

No kidding, I'll take them. I have three US made Sigs and they have all been great and have a high round count.

NEOH212
05-19-2012, 17:09
I have my Sig pistols at the range weekly many times in the rain, snow, sometime even mud and I've never had one rust or corrosion issue to speak of.

I say it's just a defective part. It does happen from time to time. It's the exception and not the norm with Sig.

NEOH212
05-19-2012, 17:10
I also have American SIGs. They sit in the safe because I don't trust them.

There isn't anything wrong with the American made Sig's.

It's all in your head.

:faint:

NEOH212
05-19-2012, 17:11
Don't buy American-made SIGs, problem solved.

I guess if you listen to enough BS on the internet you'll eventual start to believe it.

Sad. :shakehead:

fnfalman
05-19-2012, 17:29
:upeyes: :shakehead:

Then why have them? I think I've seen your "germany>exeter" comments before. If you don't like them then why not sell them and use the cash for something you trust and like? Just curious.

Sometimes when you come across a good deal, you simply can't refuse. If anything they'd make for good trading materials later.

fnfalman
05-19-2012, 17:30
I guess if you listen to enough BS on the internet you'll eventual start to believe it.

Sad. :shakehead:

Go ahead and buy the rainbow titanium checker plate abortions that come out of SIG USA.

fnfalman
05-19-2012, 17:31
Can I have them?? I'll pay the importing fees and licenses and give them a new home.

I'll sell them to you for ONE MILLION DOLLARS.

A man's gotta make a profit.

fnfalman
05-19-2012, 17:32
There isn't anything wrong with the American made Sig's.

It's all in your head.

:faint:

Righttt...it's not like SIG 556's parts falling off or the 7.62X29 can't use AK mags or steel cases without chipping the receivers. But oh wait, those SIGs aren't made in the USA, right?

mr00jimbo
05-19-2012, 18:07
I'll sell them to you for ONE MILLION DOLLARS.

A man's gotta make a profit.

How's 300 crisp US dollars for an American made P226?
Since they're not very good...:whistling:

fnfalman
05-19-2012, 18:23
How's 300 crisp US dollars for an American made P226?
Since they're not very good...:whistling:

Don't have P226 American. I have two P229s and a P239. I'll sell them to you for $650 a piece. You pay the export fees.

Premium American quality, baby. Get it while it's still hot.

bunk22
05-19-2012, 19:59
I also have American SIGs. They sit in the safe because I don't trust them.

:rofl::rofl:I love reading funny stuff on the net :supergrin: Tell you what, I'll take those crap Sigs off your hand, $50 per gun?

Glock Holliday
05-20-2012, 02:17
While I don't condone rusty firearms, I'll bet that one still functioned properly.

TalkToTheGlock
05-20-2012, 08:50
While I don't condone rusty firearms, I'll bet that one still functioned properly.

Yeah, thats what I was thinking.

I'm still gonna pick one up in the coming weeks and check it out before I buy it.

Thanks.

fowler
05-20-2012, 11:24
Pulled the grips off the last 4 Mk25 that came in along with 3 220,s no rust anywhere on the stainless silicon wire springs anywhere. . The more you look the better it gets, the workmanship on the Sigs is like a Rolex watch. Second to none.

Beanie-Bean
05-20-2012, 11:46
Well, I was finally getting paranoid enough to check mine, and there was no rust anywhere.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/Beanie-Bean/SIG/48115ed1.jpg

fowler
05-21-2012, 06:55
Stainless steel springs and have not seen any rust on Sig Sauer products new USA made pistols. I smell a troll.

itstime
05-21-2012, 07:16
One pic on the net of this happening? My next is gonna be a Sig. A P938. If I can find one.

Rally Vincent
05-21-2012, 07:20
SEAL approved.

fnfalman
05-21-2012, 09:55
:rofl::rofl:I love reading funny stuff on the net :supergrin: Tell you what, I'll take those crap Sigs off your hand, $50 per gun?

Crappy SIGs? They're wonderful by your standards. I'll sell them to you for $650 a pop.

257 roberts
05-21-2012, 10:10
:rofl::rofl:I love reading funny stuff on the net :supergrin: Tell you what, I'll take those crap Sigs off your hand, $50 per gun?
&75.00?:rofl:

TalkToTheGlock
05-21-2012, 10:21
Stainless steel springs and have not seen any rust on Sig Sauer products new USA made pistols. I smell a troll.

Yeah, I'm a troll.

https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=557377

fnfalman
05-21-2012, 10:31
&75.00?:rofl:

$675? They're the epitome of American quality

03Cobra
05-21-2012, 11:56
No issue with my sig, I think the quality is top notch. If it wasn't so pretty it would get used more than my glocks.

Sendarr
05-21-2012, 12:07
No issue with my sig, I think the quality is top notch. If it wasn't so pretty it would get used more than my glocks.

You're right, glocks are damned ugly guns. Lol

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amshooter
08-30-2012, 22:02
Main springs cost what, 5 bucks??? It should not have left the factory like that, but not really worth fretting about is it?

RustyShackelford
08-31-2012, 17:51
I also have American SIGs. They sit in the safe because I don't trust them.

"... don't trust them" as in you won't use as your carry-weapon (aka range-gun) or you don't trust their worth at all?

How's 300 crisp US dollars for an American made P226?
Since they're not very good...:whistling:

That 300 crisp dollars made me spit my beer out, which doesn't often happen. :animlol:

Morris
09-02-2012, 16:01
Shrug. It happens. Parts rust and some guns rust. The grip screws on my first P226 rusted to the end of the world. It was on my personally owned duty gun. Had some rust issues on one mag spring too.

Had a G22 in our inventory that was handed back to me for armorer's inspection. Thing was a rust bucket worn by a motor officer. Good gun guy but traced to the FP safety and spring that for some reason, rusted.

Had a Springer 1911 that rusted if you looked at it funny. Just was treated badly at the factory, I guess.

Rust happens and it reads that Sig did it right.

Not a big deal, especially if your use your gun for more than plinking on the range.