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CATATOMIC
05-19-2012, 19:11
First of all I'm a 22 year veteran in law enforcement and prior to that I served in the U.S. Army. I'm pretty up to speed on firearms especially Glocks. I'm a certified Glock Armorer also. I just want some opinions. I mainly carry 40's right now because that's what I'm issued and have a 9mm and 357 Glock. I owned a G21 several years ago and like an idiot I sold it. I want to buy another 45 and I'm torn between another G21 and a Springfield 1911 Range Officer. The only experience I've had with 1911's was in the military where I carried a Colt 1911 and loved it. I've shot 1911's that belonged to others before but have never owned one. I love the feel of the 1911 and I held a Range Officer the other day and just really liked the feel of it and the smooth trigger. I'm kind of torn. Any advice?

EricandSuebee
05-19-2012, 19:52
Well I say go with the 1911 because you've handled Glocks on a day to day basis, why not have a nice 1911 that you can have some "fun" time and not feel like your just going through the motions with another glock :) plus you handled the one you wanna get and liked it :)

mrsurfboard
05-19-2012, 19:59
You already have 2 Glocks, no reason to get a third. Get the 1911.

bac1023
05-19-2012, 20:08
Go for the Range Officer.

SiberianErik
05-19-2012, 20:22
Go for the Range Officer.

This, I shot Glocks in 40 for years. On a lark I traded a G27 + $$ for a Springer 1911 and never looked back.

CATATOMIC
05-19-2012, 20:36
I think I want the 1911. I've never owned one and like someone said I own several Glocks. Think it's time to make a change and get something different. I'm about Glocked out. I carry Glocks everyday both on and off duty plus I work on Glocks all the time.

carloglock19
05-19-2012, 20:45
Please see my reply in General Glocking. Good luck with your decision. 1911s are :cool:

EricandSuebee
05-19-2012, 20:47
See we just helped you with a nice nudge in the right direction, which you seemed yourself was going to make the same decision anyways :)

CATATOMIC
05-19-2012, 20:52
Yeah I had pretty much made my mind up I just wanted some thoughts from some 1911 folks. The best feeling handguns I've ever held were the 1911's and a Sig P220. Something about a single stack 45. It just doesn't feel any better.

Ford302Glock21
05-19-2012, 22:27
Why can't you have both? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but if you are talking self defense I have less trust in a 1911's ability to reliably feed jhps. In my opinion it was designed for ball and I carried my springer with what I thought was closest to ball: remington golden saber. I also had an s&w 1911 which ran perfect with ball but its not cheap to practice with your carry ammo to find out how reliable it is.

Capacity is also lower but not a big deal. For carry its condition one which is one extra step to be performed under stress. 1911 is great and at 100 years old is still a very acceptable platform. I say get both. I have a new gen 4 21 that is a pleasure to shoot and has lots of good reviews from others. Only downside to me is its still too big for my hand to be ideal. My gen 4 19 fits much better.

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dakrat
05-20-2012, 07:29
I think I want the 1911. I've never owned one and like someone said I own several Glocks. Think it's time to make a change and get something different. I'm about Glocked out. I carry Glocks everyday both on and off duty plus I work on Glocks all the time.

I am a fan of both. In your case, I would go with the G21. Just not a big fan of universally fitted 1911s. The RO is just a glorified mil spec with the same slap on parts. I'm a perfectionista and the looks of a $900 1911 with the extractor sticking out past the slide gives me the hibby jibbies. Flame suit on :couch:

Production guns: Glock > 1911
Semi-custom/custom: different world

Front strap treatment: standard on Glocks
Front strap treatment on 1911: none below 1k price range

GLOCK17DB9
05-20-2012, 07:49
I love Glocks but you have to go with your feelings and that says 1911. Good luck and enjoy!:supergrin:

CATATOMIC
05-20-2012, 12:46
I love Glocks too. I just want something different. If not a 1911 then I would lean toward a Sig P220. I just want a change. I'm not getting rid of my Glocks by any means just to add something different.

dakrat
05-20-2012, 12:55
I love Glocks too. I just want something different. If not a 1911 then I would lean toward a Sig P220. I just want a change. I'm not getting rid of my Glocks by any means just to add something different.

Well according to your first post you are torn between a Glock 21 and 1911. I guess you already made up your mind that you do not want the Glock. Take a look at the HK45 :cool:

EricandSuebee
05-20-2012, 13:12
LOL Dak I see what you did there :)

glock2740
05-20-2012, 14:43
Go with the 1911, but be fore warned,...it won't be your last. :cool:

TN.Frank
05-20-2012, 15:04
The Range Officer would be a good way to go for a 1911 or even a Mil-Spec. Springfield makes some pretty decent 1911's that'll give you a lot of bang for your buck. Since you mentioned the G21 may I suggest you check out Springfield's XD or XDm in 45acp. I recently picked up an XD45 and I'm very pleased with the gun. 13+1 rounds, mags are on sale right now for Father's Day for $21 bucks(can't beat that deal for a 13 round, stainless mag) and I personally think the XD has it going on all over the Glock. The XD has a steel trigger, sights, and guide rod instead of plastic like the Glock. It has an ambi mag release, loaded chamber indicator(I know, the extractor on the Glock also acts as a loaded chamber indicator but it's not as easy to check as the one on the XD) cocking indicator pin and has that nice 1911 grip angle so it fits my hand a bit better then the Glocks I've owned.
I think as long as you stick with 45acp you can't go much wrong but that XD is a pretty nice gun for the money.
Springfield Armory Mil-Spec or XD45 would be the two I'd be looking at if I were in your shoes. JMHO, YMMV.

WinterWizard
05-20-2012, 15:08
If the gun is just for fun, definitely get the 1911.

Urban_Redneck
05-20-2012, 18:47
I bought a Range Officer in March, I will say it is no "slapped together" 1911. I really could have used a bushing wrench the first half dozen times I field stripped it.

I did have to increase the extractor tension, a small punch and 5 minutes was all it took :yawn: Zero malfs in last 400 rounds. I'll put another 100 through it this week.

Deriffe
05-20-2012, 20:14
If you just want to own a 1911 and don't intend to carry it concealed most of the time, The Springfield is a great gun. I love mine. I only carry it in the winter. I've got an STI 1911 Guardian that would be closer to a Commander's size. It's a lot easier to conceal. Just my opinion.

Dawolf
05-20-2012, 21:04
1911, but lube the heck out of that Range Officer Springfield ships them dry as a bone.

mleroux21
05-20-2012, 22:16
I think you already answered your own question. You went to a 1911 forum to get us to say "Buy a Glock". No, you knew you want that 1911 but you are trying to justify it to your internal demons. So just buy the 1911 and rest assured that it wont be your last like Joe (GLOCK274) said. Hahaha. But be very careful you will not just buy 1 or 2. I am already in the double digits and I still want more.

Marc

CATATOMIC
05-21-2012, 10:47
For the record I will not even consider an HK. I was forced to carry a USP 40 on duty before and I hated that gun. It was reliable and accurate but I hated the feel of it and just didn't like it. As far as the XD, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt because I've never fired one. And I did post this topic in General Glocking also.

fnfalman
05-21-2012, 11:33
If you have the financial means and if you want one, then buy an M1911. If anything just for giggles.

crazymoose
05-21-2012, 11:53
What are you looking to spend? The Springfield RO is a very good gun. However, a couple of choices that are a hair over the $1,000 mark I consider great values given the quality for the price- the STI Trojan and Dan Wesson Heritage.

I'm a Glock man through and through for purely utilitarian purposes, but a good 1911 is enjoyable to shoot in a way that very few other pistols are.

ca survivor
05-21-2012, 12:09
Go for the Range Officer, I had all .45 Glocks, now only 1911 in .45 and a Sig 220, the RO is a great gun.

GLK-23
05-21-2012, 13:12
The Springfield 1911's are in my opinion the best bang for your buck. I'm pretty happy with my Loaded full size. Pretty similar to the Range Officer. Only thing I did was to put on a Packmayr grip.

GOOFA
05-22-2012, 04:49
CATATOMIC... I have both, the G21 Gen4 and the Springfield Range Officer. Both firearms are excellent in their own right. The G21 Gen4 is in high demand and one of the best full sized 45acp combat type firearms. A real pleasure to shoot, with typical Glock reliability and above average accuracy.
The Range Officer in my opinion is the best 1911 for under $950. Springfield really outdid themselves with the RO. It's quality fit & finish makes it one reliable and accurate 1911 and can hold its own in accuracy with 1911's costing up to $500 more. I purchased both of mine at Bud's for $667 about 9 months ago. The RO is also in high demand and also a pleasure to shoot. The RO is a great way to enter the world of 1911's.
If I were you, I would go for the RO now and keep the G21 Gen4
as possibly your next purchase.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6043/6235798685_8531a8541c_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6055/6291449680_279ecd734c_z.jpg

CATATOMIC
05-22-2012, 14:07
CATATOMIC... I have both, the G21 Gen4 and the Springfield Range Officer. Both firearms are excellent in their own right. The G21 Gen4 is in high demand and one of the best full sized 45acp combat type firearms. A real pleasure to shoot, with typical Glock reliability and above average accuracy.
The Range Officer in my opinion is the best 1911 for under $950. Springfield really outdid themselves with the RO. It's quality fit & finish makes it one reliable and accurate 1911 and can hold its own in accuracy with 1911's costing up to $500 more. I purchased both of mine at Bud's for $667 about 9 months ago. The RO is also in high demand and also a pleasure to shoot. The RO is a great way to enter the world of 1911's.
If I were you, I would go for the RO now and keep the G21 Gen4
as possibly your next purchase.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6043/6235798685_8531a8541c_z.jpg

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6055/6291449680_279ecd734c_z.jpg

Awesome pics. I've just gotta have one.

G26AZ
05-24-2012, 12:34
I have carried a GLock every day since 1994, but this year purchased my first 1911 - a Colt Commander in .45 acp. Although it is heavier then my GLock 26 or 19, and holds fewer rounds, it comes up and on target for me in a way the GLock never did. It seemed like I had to conciously aim the Glock, but the Colt fits my hand better or something, because it goes right on target with the sights aligned without any effort on my part.
I sent it to Robar to have it plated with NP3+ to protect from my sweat in the AZ summer, and it now my new CCW weapon.
I still have my Glocks and will likely never get rid of them, but the 1911 is defintely my new "go to" pistol of choice!

fnfalman
05-24-2012, 14:07
Although it is heavier then my GLock 26 or 19, and holds fewer rounds, it comes up and on target for me in a way the GLock never did. It seemed like I had to conciously aim the Glock, but the Colt fits my hand better or something, because it goes right on target with the sights aligned without any effort on my part.


This is why my main packing piece is a Colt snubbie. Six rounds on target without much struggling at any distance up to 25-yds.

People need to be realistic with their CCW requirements. Chances of any of us having to fight off a biker gang or a group of AK blazing jihadists are slime to none...and slim already left town. Pack a gun that allows you to put rounds on target fast and accurately.

EricandSuebee
05-24-2012, 14:47
Yeah thats why I carry just ammo :) I can fling it and it gets on target and multiple targets fast haha :)